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  • What! How can he not like the Mark Hamill joker?!

  • I also suggest to anyone here who's a gamer play Arkham Asylum & Arkham City those games are AWESOME!!

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  • Roger Ebert's opinion on animation not being limited strictly for children... yes. Dude, just yes.

  • You're too late Batman! I was going into Toshi Station to pick up some power converters!

  • That voice almost changed how dark the character could be on tv/film, and I love it!

  • At least they did like the movie itself a lot. Yeah, they didn't give Hamill's Joker his due, but at least people who might not watch the movie otherwise will watch it if they take Siskel and Ebert's opinions seriously.

  • How could you NOT like Mark Hamill's Joker?

  • How could you NOT like Mark Hamill's Joker?

  • I loved Nicholson's joker, but I disagree with his opinion. Mark is way better in my book.

  • Nicholson was basically playing himself as the Joker whereas Hamill actually throws himself into the role

  • WHAAATTT??!!!...he does'nt like Mark's version of Joker??...does he know we grew up on Mark's version?....which is like the best...putting Jack's version in a respectable 2nd and Heath's in a very tight 3rd?...(jack beats heath only 'cause his version is a little cooler and more composed...heath was a little too psyco,and thats perfect for the role but it's also a little harder to relate to him since he's sooo out there...but it's a DAMN close race)..but Mark? this is a HUGE insult to alot of us

  • @TETTSUUO

    They don't care shit about the audience, and that IS good. They have to have thir own solid opinion.

    Still: he's wrong. Judging Joker cannot be just a matter of taste. Mark Hamill played Joker with original and manacing tone, yet somehow could even be funny in a bizarre way. This is what Joker's character is about: sadistic humor, and it comes out perfectly the way Hamill is portrying him.

  • Didn't like Mark Hamill's awesome Joker voice? This is more proof that these 2 assholes hardly know shit

  • I guess Hamill didn't put enough Nicholson into his voice for Gene. Thank god, by the way.

  • @happydragonpics Yeah thank god, I hate imitators

  • Doesn't like Mark Hamill? Laser Disc?

    WUT

  • Gene can fuck himself

  • @iantaylor124

    he's dead for more than a decade, smart guy

  • @iantaylor124

    he did

    by a surgery

  • u no like mark hamil? i no like your moma.

  • Jack<Mark<Heath.

  • ???? Mark Hamill's joker voice was the best!

  • he didnt like the voice of the Joker!!!! did you like luke skywalker??.... im just sayin... lol

  • okay..hold on...how the hell can you not like mark hamill as the joker....it's...it's just beyond me.

  • LAYZORDISK!

  • Its so sad that Ebert's perspective on animation has been forgotten by time.

  • IMO this is one of the BEST batman FIlms EVER(discluding Dark Knight & Begins)

  • At this point, saying such a statement about Mark Hamill's Joker like Siskels should be considered blasphemy.

  • @LordMortis315

    Indeed.; Gene Siskel not liking Mark Hamill's portrayal of The Joker is almost sacreligious, in my opinion.

    That's like having William Shatner reprising the role of Captain James T. Kirk in a 'Star Wars' movie.; "It just doesn't look right!", in other words.

  • 15 people prefer 'Batman & Robin'.

  • What'd the guy mean by "It's vigilantism at its deadliest!" & "Batman's a loose cannon, Commisioner!..."?

  • @tthomaselli2

    He was commenting on how Batman is a vigilante. If Batman DID start killing people, even criminals, many people would see him as going overboard and it demonstrates what a thin line Batman walks in self-policing Gotham City. The term loose cannon refers to someone who's "trigger happy" or is not rational, cool and collected like Batman usually is.

  • @MrScud1999

    What about the term 'going over-board', as you said?; What does that one mean?

  • @tthomaselli2 It means going "too far." Over-board refers to falling off the side of a boat. If Batman played judge, jury and executioner people would think him too extreme (thus going "overboard").

  • @MrScud1999

    Thanks.

  • I'm sorry, but Mark Hamill isn't good as the Joker? Uh...no.

  • By the way... is it just me, or is Mask of the Phantasm kinda... overrated? I mean, it's great for some reasons, but... the love story is annoying and lame. I don't get it - why would Bruce need a freakin' THIRD love interest? He already has Selina Kyle and Talia Al Ghul... this is pushing it to me.

  • @kurvos But this was the love interest he had, BEFORE he devoted himself entirely to the Batman persona.

  • @CoolerKing37 It still feels a bit forced. Especially since this woman NEVER, EVER was even MENTIONED again through the entire series - not even in Batman Beyond. It doesn't add up - it's like it takes place in a alternate reality.

  • @kurvos She appeared in some of the Batman Adventures comics (based on BTAS), and later in an episode of Justice League Unlimited.

  • @jamesoblivion Good for you.

  • @kurvos Nice non sequitur.

    Sorry if you think I'm an asshole for pointing out a fact.

  • @jamesoblivion If that's what you assume, then so be it. I responded that way because I don't really give a shit - she doesn't appear in the animated series of Batman, and she doesn't appear in Batman Beyond. That's the main Batman timeline of animated shows - and therefor, cameos in other places is none of my concern. Some comics and Justice League Unlimited? Uhm.... yay...

  • @kurvos Justice League Unlimited is the same continuity as BTAS and Batman Beyond. It's all DCAU. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know because you seemed bothered by her absence after MOTP. Thought I could help out. But if you're gonna respond like a cunt, whatever, man. Go fuck your mother for all I care.

  • @jamesoblivion "Respond like a cunt", hm? "Go fuck your mother", huh? Not only using random mean choice of words; you also to it unprovoked as I haven't called you anything. Classy, kid.

  • @kurvos A cunt's a cunt, man. I tried to help out, and you acted like I was being a dick. It's a cunt move, and I called you on it. JLU is just as much in-continuity with BTAS a Batman Beyond is, so your "main timeline" statement is just bullshit, anyway. Anyway, all I did was try to pitch in some helpful information, and I got "Good for you," and a bunch of other snarky bullshit for a response. So yeah, fuck you.

  • Wait, wait, wait... did not just hear that, did I? Gene Sskel just said he didn't like Mark Hamill as the voice of the Joker? No, it can't be. It seriously HAS to be a joke. Who in their right mind would EVER say Mark Hamill does not do the perfect Joker? This is not precisely a matter of opinion as it is a fact - if you admire the Joker's character - AT ALL - you just know Mark Hamill nails him better than any other human being possibly could. I mean, is he serious?

  • the guy is a dumbass for not likeing mark hamil s voice of the joker

  • My dad got it on VHS and saw it a million times as a kid :)

  • holy shit he doesn't like Joker's voice?! Who the hell doesn't like Mark Hamil's Joker voice??! : 0

  • @TRMDYLE666 I don't

  • @TRMDYLE666 Indeed, Mark Hamill IS Joker to me. Heck, there is no other Batman than Kevin Conroy to me also. He does what Christian Bale only tries to do, make Batman and Bruce Wayne 2 distinct characters only with his voice.

  • @TMNTJSTR Not to mention, Bale's version is backwards. In Conroy's version, the "Batman" voice is Batman's real voice, and the "Bruce Wayne" voice is Batman playing a character.

  • @Ultracity6060 Exactly. I always loved that!

  • Mark Hamill is the Greatest Joker EVER! Sorry Jack and Heath, but it's true!

  • @MTTT19 they know it

  • @MTTT19 The guy is lame Mark Hamill has the best Joker voice ever. I don't care what he says.

    Now I think Mark Hamill definitely has the best Joker voice, but I have to give it to Heath for best Joker. His performance was just amazing, and totally Oscar worthy. Jack Nicholson did a pretty good job too himself.

  • You can trash all of my other childhood cartoon characters, but you've taken it too far when you trash Mark Hamill's Joker!

  • never seen this, but i want to really badly!

  • Mask of the Phantasm is in the Top Three of Batman films.

  • Legend has it that Roger Ebert had a corndog clogging his shit hole during every filming of this shitty show.

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  • @johnd94 No, that's just !@#$ed up!

  • Wtf Gene Siskel has a different opinion than me? CRITICIZE HIM!

  • My jaw DROPPED when he said he didn't like Mark Hamill's Joker.

  • wow. laserdisc.

  • I watched it at home on laser disc... Hahahahahahahahaha primitive 90's lol

  • I think that since this was all Gene saw on Batman the animated series he didn't get to see how the joker was used if he saw the whole series I bet he would have felt differant, because in phantasm he was used to be more menicing and less funny so he didn't get a whole idea of Mark Hammils performance...

  • "Caesar Romero in the cartoon show on the TV"?!?!?!?!? YOU IDIOT! ARE YOU FOR REAL!?!?!?

  • How could you not like Mark Hamill as the joker, Gene?!

  • Siskel "kinda liked" Batman Forever???  WTF.

  • Mark Hamill will ALWAYS be the best Joker.

  • @PopxTartxThief This x 1,000,000,000

  • Disagree completely on Joker's voice. Hamill does a great job!

  • @GuiltySparkFilms Really?

    Hmm, well I've read it several places now that AC will be his last work, although it would be awesome if those rumors turned out to be fake. :D

  • Cool!

  • i am proud to say that i own more of the animated features than i do the live action ones. All of them are great, and the most recent one rivals the dark knight.

  • It's funny how everyone is talking about the actors who have played the Joker. Caesar Romeo, Health Ledger, Jack Nicholson and Mark Hamill were great jokers in their different ways

  • Mark Hamill>Jack Nicholson

    Heath Ledger> Jack Nicholson

    Mark Hamill=Heath Ledger

  • I wish Siskel had seen the Nolan films. He would have loved them.

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  • whoah!did he just say he didnt like the voice of the joker?

    mark hamil is the best!who are you going to get to do his voice?

  • This movie is 10 times better than 'The Dark Knight'!!!!...........okay, not really, but it's still pretty damn good!

  • Over the decades, I would have to say Hamil has become one of the most familiar voice of the Joker.

  • The character of The Joker has been done so differently over the years. I always liked Hamill but it always drives me nuts when people claim it's the best of all time and that when they see the character they only imagine that voice. For me, it works only for that cartoon version of Batman. The psychology of the character was very limited in that show as it was not able to reach the dark levels that the comics do. What Heath Ledger came up with was really brilliant.

  • @prismgap Mark Hamill > Heath Ledger

  • @prismgap Good comment.

  • Gene Siskel and Roger Ebert have officially earned my respect with this review. I'm glad they can appreciate a good animated movie.

  • Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is THE best Batman movie.

  • One thing I really love about Ebert is his willingness to accept animation as a legitimate medium.

  • Siskel probably doesn't like the animated Joker because the character was written and voiced much more intensely than Nicholson and Romero and he probably sees the character as much more lightweight and gimmicky; what makes Hamill's Joker fantastic is that he portrayed the character on a more disturbing and psychotic level 16 years before Heath Ledger confirmed how powerful this interpretation can be. Hamill's work is immense and his characterisation equals Ledger's as the best Joker

  • @madjack18 well said

  • WTF???? Siskel didn't like Mark Hamill's Joker?????!!!!! Hamill is the BEST JOKER OF ALL TIME!!!!!!!!! How can anyone not love that voice and character? It is the mix of a funny clown with a psychopathic killer. IT"S GODDAMN BRILLIANT!!!!!!!! People who don't like Hamill's Joker, here is a message for you: Go watch every episode of BATS and TNBA and see for yourselves how menacing Hamill can be with the Joker. Despite what he said, I still love ya Siskel. R.I.P

  • @gurneyman100 It's a matter of opinion. Believe me, I love Mark Hamill's voice as Joker but hey it's up to people on which version of Joker they like. Heath Ledger's Joker was pretty awesome and a lot of people find him to be the best. I'm sure Siskel had no hate against Mark Hamill. It's just simple opinion.

  • @gurneyman100 I think you're confusing Mark Hamill's voice with the writing of The Joker, i.e. he might've voiced the "best" Joker, but, it being the best incarnation is due to writing, not merely a voice. Also, voice-acting is different than actual acting; it's more apt to compare "Hamill's" Joker with another animated version, much akin to how Nicholson and Ledger are compared.

  • @gurneyman100

    Lol my favorite Joker is Hamill's as well but John DiMaggio's was pretty menacing in Under The Red Hood. It may have had more to do with just how they wrote the character in that one though and not the actual voicework.

  • @gurneyman100 I think he just doesn't like Hamill....

  • Great review, loved the comments about attitudes on animation changing, though they haven't changed enough in the U.S., but Siskel doesn't like the BEST JOKER EVER? Wow. Anyway, awesome film.

  • laser disc. lol

  • I LOVE THIS JOKER'S VOICE!

  • siskel was awesome

  • I watched this and Tinytoons how i spent my summer vacation more than i did with any Disney animated movies. With that heres a question where the hell is the DVD?

  • In my opinion it's one of my three favorite Batman films.

    They are this one, BATMAN 1989, and THE DARK KNGIHT

  • @SLPIFan

    The best Batman movie period right now is Batman: Under the Red Hood. Phantasm and the 1989 movie did a great job developing Batman's animated and live action portrayal, allowing for future projects that led to the many DC animated series since then, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and Under the Red Hood.

  • @KyleCleric

    Batman begins was boring as shit, Dark Knight was excellent but again Bales voice ruins his image as batman.

    Under the red hood was fantastic, but jarring without conroy and hamil

  • Honestly, I think Mask of the Phantasm IS the greatest Batman movie, if anything because its spun-off of Batman the Animated Series, which to me is the definitive version of Batman. Tim Burton and Chris Nolan's films are great, and Michael Keaton and Christian Bale are both great Batman actors to me, but I still like the DCAU version of Batman the most.

  • Mark Hamil's Joker is the best Joker in my opening. Especially his laughs.

  • Nothing against Gene Siskel, but, hearing him saying that he didn't like Mark Hamill as The Joker really pains me...

  • Siskel doesn't like Mark Hamill as Joker? Hamill IS Joker!

  • Okay, First The Joker, Then the Skeleton King, and now Ulysses Klaw. Ladies and Gentlemen, Mark Hamill is the Go-To guy whenever you need a voice for a villain!!

  • CEASER ROMERO WILL ALWAYS BE THE JOKER ! IF YOU DONT AGREE YOUR DEAD WRONG ! ALSO, MY CAR WONT START, CAN ANYONE GIVE ME A RIDE ?

  • @JackBuck44 OKAY, I WILL! WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?

  • @HalfBlindSkull Lets go see True Grit

  • Batman Mask of phantasm one of the best Batman films ever made. Ranking up with The Dark Knight and Batman(1989). But I think Hamill is the best joker. Unlike Jack or Heath who just killed people but this Joker gave thim this ugly permenant grin whi i always thought was worse than death. Anpther great Batman film is Batman Beyond Return of the Joker which i thought shoud've got a theatrical release because that one is a excellent batman animated film and the only one to get a pg 13 rating

  • i think that this voice fits the joker perfectly. i cant really think of the joker without this voice.

  • LOL how can he not like Joker's voice!? Mark Hamill has the most psychotic joker voice ever! No other voice even comes close IMO.

  • This is without a doubt the best batman movie ever made. I disagree with with Gene on the Joker Mark Hamill is the best ever. I would say this is tied if not above the original Tim Burton batman film. I think anyone who calls themselves a fan of batman needs to give this a good look.

  • i like how slick looking the joker is in "the Phantasm", the series and in Batman Beyond.. he has style and humor, but most importantly he has an initiative, hes soo smart and clever... but nowadays in the cartoons and the movie hes ragady and crazy looking and they make him out to be some random psycho killer who jokes are more sinister than funny... hes beyond that, hes and cool and ACTUALLY stands up straight on here...

  • it's sad that gene never got to see any of chris nolan's batman movies.

  • OMFG this is the movie i saw over and over as a kid and i couldnt remember what it was

  • This Batman The Animated Series is the best batman there is. The movie wasn't as great as some of the episodes for the series but still a good one. One of the greatest batman experinces is also the Arkham Asylum game that has the cast from this animated series for voice talent and it also was one of the best games when it came in 09. In my book the best. Suited for everyone who likes a really solid game. Note that i read comic books last time when i was a child, still both products rock.

  • To love this movie, but not love Mark Hammil's voice? And I thought only the clown prince could have such a sick sense of humor.

  • ceaser romero

    jack nicholson

    mark hamil and

    heath ledger are the best jokers

  • "Adults are realizing that animation is not limited as entertainment for children" heh, and then there was Pixar :P

  • @MarkArandjus and it seems many adults still don't...or at least hollywood and many film studios do

  • As far as the Joker's voice goes, to each his own. There are plenty of fans/haters of the voice Bale uses as Batman; I'm just glad the characters have remained in the mainstream so that we get so many different interpretations to pick and choose from.

  • HE DIDN'T LIKE MARK HAMMIL'S JOKER!!!!! HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!

  • @Revieweverything100 He didn't grow up with it. with the manner he was exposesd to it it's not suprising if he was expecting a completely different style. Joker is sort of the most cartoony and over-the-top characters in this show and if you're expecting something else i imagine he does not come off well at all and you miss the great parts of the performance.

  • @NoTrueFace1 Very true

  • I'm suprised he didnt talk about Phantasm more. I mean, we all like Joker already but Phantasm, well crap mo stank ,thats where its all at man !  xd

  • Watch out Batman. I'm you're Biggest Fan. LOL

  • How funny! I enjoyed the movie as a kid as well.

  • Ebert was right. In fact, I daresay that animated television is now a more adolescent/adult mode of entertainment. While adults watch shows like Family Guy, South Park or whatever anime show they may be into, kids today are stuck with Hannah Montana, Raven, Wizards of Waverly Place, and apparently, even World Wrestling Entertainment has gone from "Attitude TV" to being kid-friendly.

  • Siskel ought've been thrown in Arkham Asylum for hating Mark Hamill's Joker. >:-(

  • OMG amazing joker voice

  • What little I heard of Hamill's Joker here actually didn't really appeal to me but he's amazing in the Arkham Asylum for sure.

  • I'm surprised they didn't like Hamill's Joker, I think he did great work with the role. I'm pleasantly surprised they reviewed this movie. I think it was a high quality movie that was one of DC's best until we got Batman: Under the Red Hood. It's too bad this couple isn't around to look at that movie, which is a true classic.

  • Jesus Freaking Christ they hit right on the spot w/ that movie. It's a goddamned pity all of this flavor wasn't incorprated into the god-awful, fan-service driven, ridiculous DCAU shows.

    I'll watch this movie again, but l'll never watch Superman: TAS nor JL/JL-FUCKING-U AGAIN! SHIT!

    -R78

  • Jesus, calm down folks. Okay, he didn't like the Joker but he LOVED the movie. Be happy.

  • I wonder if siskel and ebert ever reviewed "Alive"?.

  • I can see how he didn't like Hamil's Joker. You needed to watch the animated series to get it. The Joker had a very insane, yet playful personality, which Hamil made it fit perfectly.

  • That shocked me. Siskel disliking Hamilll's Joker.

  • While I respect Siskel, I gotta say this is the first time I have EVER heard someone not liking Hamill's Joker.

  • laserdisc hahahaha awesome!

  • Its GENE SISKEL. Who care if he doesn't like Hamill's Joker, the man was probably the greatest critic ever. You don't have to agree with his opinion, because its just that, his opinion.

    No movie critics will ever match the team the was Siskel & Ebert

  • Mark Hamill is the greatest Joker ever and this is the greatest Batman film ever(animated or otherwise), and it's also the truest to the comics. The Dark Knight and Return Of The Joker are also masterpieces and all three are far better than any other superhero films ever made. The stupid, uneducated, Batman 89', Returns, Forever, and Batman And Robin fans should watch this film and see how Batman movies truly are when everything is done right.

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  • @LiquidSolidRaiden Without batman 89 you have no animated series. The creaters have said this themselves. Batman 89 was a very good film despite its numerous flaws. I agree with you on the other films you mentioned but batman 89 was done very well.

  • saying that he doesnt like mark hamills joker really pains me...

  • @gold7250 was about to write a comment about his hating Hamills voice but your comment is bang on! Admittedly he does say they missed it when it was released and probably never watched the series - so coming from Nicholsons performance it probably was different - whereas we can't imagine Hamil not being the joker as were used to it!!

  • @gold7250 For Christ's sake your a grown man, deal with it !

  • @gold7250 He IS The Joker. Whenever I read a Batman comic, I imagine The Joker sounding like Mark Hamill's Joker.

  • @gold7250 Indeed.

    I personally love Mark Hamill as an actor MORE for his voice as the joker than as Luke.

    In fact, Heath Ledger aside, he is the best joker by far, and I'm very saddened to hear that after nearly 20 great years he will finally step down from the role and retire. His last work will be on Batman: Arkham City, so at least he will go out with a bang! :'-D

  • @gold7250 that fat ass has no idea what he is talking about.

  • @gold7250 Because, quite honestly, Mark is the best joker so far. I loved Nicholson, but still just second place for me.

  • What an idiot!! he didnt like mark hamill's Joker voice?!?!? how could anyone not like it!?!? its funny its dark, comic, evil, pyschotic, its a little of everything dude what the hell...

  • Doesn't... like... Jokers... voice? Blasphemy!

  • @NirvanaPhoenix I was about to say the exact same thing.

  • I like this animated Batman movie more than the 1989 Tim Burton movie

  • i still have this on vhs. i love hamill as the joker he was my heroe and kevin conroy was awesome as batman.

  • Yeah, I gotta agree with Nickreaper 110%. All due respect to all the other actors, but Mark Hamill IS The Joker the same way that Kevin Conroy IS The Batman.

  • The thing he said about the joker is kinda nutty.

  • While I'm pleased that Siskel and Ebert loved this movie, I really have to object to their comments on the Joker's voice. Mark Hamil was PERFECT as the Joker.

  • I friggin love this version of the Joker and his voice, absolute CLASSIC

  • personally i like this better than any of the live-action movies

  • @mommyimadeapoopy Me too!

  • this movie is fine and all...but oh my god im getting sick of people thinking this thing is SO much better than it really is. its good. but seriously people... gah.. ah never mind...

  • Did he just say he didn't like the joker's voice? Those words is it possble to use em in a sentence like that?!

  • he doesn`t like the jokers voice!

  • He doesn't like Mark Hamill's voice as the Joker! WTF! Hamill is brilliant as The Joker. It maybe the greatest performance he's ever given. I hate when someone else does the voice in the cartoons.

  • I can't believe he didn't like Hamill's Joker

  • It's a shame that the only thing Siskel didn't like about the movie was Hamill's Joker. To me that's one the best and most interesting aspects of "Mask of the Phantom."

  • For an animated film, this was pretty good.: :) .