He's talking about youtube comment conversations. I can't say a damn thing without someone visiting wikipedia, or correcting my spelling, correcting my grammar...
@rabidchevy@rabidchevy Seriously! I give people who look like they might be a bit off their rocker the benefit of the doubt that they might be on a Bluetooth. It should be the other way 'round, where nicely dressed people talking to themselves appear a bit off. :-)
@rabidchevy yes seriously!!!! it is a play on words for my name pennsays, can you guess it? and i for prefer the olden days when prince was the weirdo amd michael jackson was the normal one
Alot of people do miss the point that often conversations are just noise and social interaction, not any sort of "classroom" or research project. Who is "right" at the end of the conversation really doesn't matter when its over, except maybe to both or one of the participants. Took me a while to pick up on that, but its probably more of an old people phenomena, anyway, lol.
I'm surprised he didn't call his friends on being Extremely Rude. Using any device that pulls your attention away from the person you are supposed to be having a conversation with is a shitty thing to do.
3. They lack any sense of tranquility inside so they can't bear to be alone with thoughts or in direct, deep,fully engrossing conversation and so they use this device to escape any level of depth since they fear or can not tolerate anything deep for too long a while without retreating or marginalizing it with the device since they are not comforatable with themselves. 4. the technology just becomes so routine that they lose the ability to engage fully and just become constant partial taskers.
I've had similar experiences, and I've thought about why people fact check in this interuptive manner. I've come up with 3 possibilities for why a person does this. 1. They get some sort of ego kick from brandishing and adeptly handeling a new piece of technology. This is especially true of people in your age group or teenagers. 2. They are not ccompletely comfortable or are somewhat nervous with the situation and so the fact checking is a means of retreating into themselves for a bit. 3.
A human being does not need to do every disgusting thing in order to fulfill his sexual desires. Sexuality is part of humanity and in the right context, is beautiful and can bring people closer together. Our desires are greatly influenced by the society we live in. However, Just because one can do it doesn't make it healthy. America will be a better place when people embrace their sexuality in a healthy manner; not in a catholic manner (calling it a sin) and not in an overboard manner.
woah. Your inference is a little strong ne? I'm referring to the American idel of making sex a shameful experience, that any sexuality is implicitly "bad" and "dirty" and "everything". The corrupted system of American social sexuality is to use sex as a weapon. It's about status, it's about power, if you're gay, you're evil for it, if you're a woman, you're simultaneously despised AND idolized, and man is portrayed as a bumbling moronic beast. It's all bullshit.
i think the reason people do that is, have you ever got something in your head? you know the answer but it just won't come and you keep thinking about it and it just drives you nuts until you find out the answer.
There's nothing wrong with taking a break from 24/7 connected life. I certainly wouldn't give up google for good, but there are times when its polite to just pay attention to the person you're speaking to.
it's not that old people didn't like new and better things. it's that you where to young and dumb to understand why some of these things are not as safe as they make it out to be... sooo nice try dummy, go drink some more tap water and be quite.
I think eventually, probably to your disliking, that this technology will be more involved, but less impeding. IE it would listen to you talking and post statistics and information based on your conversation, almost like it(your phone) was a member of the conversation. Much like when you have a web page that starts underlining words and giving you feedback when you mouse over that word. (I work at this "level" of information technology, it's my profession) ...a lot to take in, but its coming
I like fact checking, I'd like to be able to do it with my brain instantaneously over the net via a wetware jack into the phone. I'll remember the heart of the conversation though and go with that or reexplain if my message with feeling seems to lose the feeling part, or if the message isn't recognized at all.
I do check in on facts on google...AFTER the conversation...I might bring up what I found the next time I see a person....I am a person who does not like to be misinformed..Not saying that 100% that you find on the web is true....but I hunt around...
I agree 100%. It's the new zen. Yes, my lap is adorned with a laptop while talking to my wife and if anything fact wise matters, it's spectacular that I can pull it right off. Or route my bluetooth to albania. Or find a random 10 digit prime. However, if you brave having this power, it comes with the responsibility to not do it until it's needed turn the train of thought onto a path of noodles. You look up or contact when it matters, otherwise it can wait. Monotasking rules.
Bravo!! Nowadays you sit at a table with a group of people and not only does everyone check their phones constantly, but they actually set them on the table like they're a fucking utensil!! We need to relax with the tech shit sometimes and get back to getting to know one another!
I'm with ya Penn, turn the damn cell phone off when your talking to me. And mine is always in silent mode anyway. If it goes off and I'm expecting an important call, which is rare, I take a bathroom break. Otherwise, that's what the answering service portion of my contract is for.
To clarify, my last comment was a joke and I agree with Penn on this. It annoys the hell out of me, people who constantly need to be on the internet or talking on the phone, especially when it's just two of us.
better to have this then not have this though. Its somthing we can turn off like you penn, somthing we shouldnt abuse for trivial things. Yeah ppl suck at talking
I don't even have a mobile phone. I've never had one and I don't want one.
I've never had that problem of people fact-checking during a conversation. I guess it depends on the sort of people you hang around with. Or maybe it's just that I have so few friends it just hasn't had a chance to happen yet.
You can find any imaginable sexual thing on the internet. I was surprised to find out how common the stuff I like is on here. And I'm really weird.
I will I admit I have a problem with fact checking on my iPhone, but I've never let it derail my conversation. Being 22 i've grown up in a society and age bracket that makes multitasking a regular occurrence, but I've always tried to make the more immediate task the most important, and to your point, human interaction is probably the most important part of having a conversation or being out of the house.
I think this was an astute view of where a lot of conversation is headed. Quentin Crisp once wrote something like--You say I talk for talking's sake (as though it's something bad). Would you say that if I danced for dancing's sake?
In other words, talk is art. Great talk is a masterpiece. When two or more people are creating a masterpiece together, what could be more brilliant and beautiful, and showcase such a distinctly human trait?
There is a difference between truth and trivia. Allowing the search for an incidental fact to derail a deeper discussion is no great service to knowledge. Few great achievements were born of short attention spans.
Honestly, I started up my handheld and checked the age of the Coen Brothers before the video had ended. I also learned how many of their movies I love.
After watching the video: sounds like you have another topic for a Bullshit episode. What is true sexual morality without relying on an old religious text on the subject?
I think a lot of what makes this kind of thing annoying or inappropriate is the speed factor. Right now, we may feel like we're really "living in the future", but in fact this is all still VERY, very slow. Slow enough to make something FAST and efficient, like a conversation, derail. When it becomes something that say, a personal A.I. agent takes care of for you in real time on a heads up display rather than a little box you have to carry and type into, it won't be as intrusive. IMHO.
Anyway, this is one of those things I complain about where it can't be reciprocal. See, I want to be fact-checked when I speak, but if I ever spoke to someone who doesn't want it, it's considered taboo.
It's just like correcting my grammar. I believe that correct grammar is important. If you don't, fine. But either correct mine, or let me correct yours. The "my way of doing things all the time" rule is not fair to me.
I'm not really sure why so many people seem lost on the point being made here.
I'm sure that Penn would agree that there are many instances where people should check their facts before making absolute statements, but also that there are many conversations in life where the minutiae will only serve as unimportant and sometimes rude distraction.
From here we seem to need some discussion as to why human comprehension levels seem to be at an all-time low in such a modern age.
I agree with you totally people are so obsessed with technology that they are rude enough to whip out a phone in the middle of a convo, the price of technology on a species not evolved enough to make it a less important aspect of life
I think Penn's ideas are a little off at times, so all this fact checking kind of stunts his ranting lol. I welcome the fact checking, the issue to me is the timing. When he said "facts are getting in the way of the truth" I think that says it all. Facts are stunting Penn's Bullshit lol Btw I'm a big fan but we're all full of it sometimes, or much of the time, lol...
That seemed like the point to me; and if it really is.. wow. Penn is the only libertarian I respect and if he really believes what I think he does then I can say that I respect no libertarians at all.
Have you ever found yourself telling a story where you couldn't really remember some small detail that even if you had remembered it, it wouldn't have made a difference at all in the conversation?
Well, when someone breaks out their phone to focus on such an unimportant detail it becomes much more likely they will be missing the real heart of the matter.
It is just that there are times when the facts are important, but also times when they are not.
Remind me never to tell you a joke, lest you pull out your phone and google the statistics of the number of times that a priest, a minister, and a rabbi have actually all walked into a bar together.
It would really bum me out trying to have a good time making someone laugh only to find out I don't have my facts straight.
This is the free world we're making for ourselves, you're all for that. What? You don't like it when the free world does something you don't like now such as overly fact checking and eating excessively to an unhealthy? What's so wrong with that? Derailing the passion of a persons speech, maybe that's the world we're making for ourselves. You want liberty, you gotta include the desire for it's consequences too, otherwise, you don't look like something you're trying to preach.
I agree...I was at dinner with some relatives who I haven't seen in quite some time last night and my phone rang and I didn't react at all. All the people at the table couldn't believe I could just let the phone ring without answering it. I told them that's what voice mail and caller ID are for. I'm not missing anyone, and if they can't wait 30 minutes or so for me to finish my meal then they really didn't need to speak to me at all.
You know, my grandmother was a terrible fact-checker long before the internet came to her home, and far before cellphones were any fancy to anyone.
Someone would be telling a story, and not only would she correct them, she would go find whatever resource she had to prove them wrong. If she had no resource, she'd go into a small explanation of how she knew her facts. She was great at derailing conversations.
I don't think it's a technological phenomenon. It's a personality thing.
your grandma is just weird. and if your sitting in a restaraunt like that you cant run home to pull out resources, you can only fact-check with a phone.
im 35, self employed and refuse to own a cellphone. i dont want to give everyone the ability to contact me whenever they want nor do i need the ability to contact them.
as for the fact checking thing...i have to disagree...people run off at the mouth, or post on their blog or on youtube, etc without fact checking a single thing. fact checking today is simply repeating the bumper sticker sized one liners they find on the internet and agree with.
I'm with you. I'm 29 and refuse to own a cellphone. I had a prepaid that I used for emergencies or when I was on the road for my convenience. Once people found out my cell number they assumed I was just like them and the cell was my primary phone and that I obsessively had it on me. It fried last year and I have no intention of getting one again.
how can you disagree when he says they were fact checking, not running to the window to look at the nearest bumper sticker for some information they were going on google and looking for facts. no disagreeing with that.
u r exactly what im talking about.i said "bumper sticker sized one liners" and you turn it into people looking at actual bumper stickers.READ.before you click 'post comment' CHECK YOUR FACTS
and typing something into google is not fact checking.most people only click on links that give the info they WANT and not the facts.i can type into google about obamas birth cert and get completely different results.google isnt fact checking its lazy
u cant even comment on my comment w/o f'ing that up
wow that was impressive...not really but expected.
when confronted with your own moronic mistakes theres only two options. admit them and repost your comment after forming a well thought out reply to the words i actually used...or call someone a name and run away.
thank you though, for showing what side you stand with.
Penn, yur old. There's nothing wrong with mutlitasking before, during, or after a conversation IF both parties are cool with it. It's all about context.
yes I find it really irritating when people have to check their phones every 5 seconds like they might miss if their friend took a shit or something, seriously. I was at a friends and we were all watching a movie and it's really hard to enjoy a movie when everyone is fucking texting or talking on their phones instead of engaging in the group activity of watching a movie with people that are actually in the room. wtf
This is an issue of what is placed with value; human input, a fallible source, or human input via electronic mediums , which is (usually) reliable.
The best way to counter this feeling is to read the web for info prior to speaking, or become the phone user yourself... or explain how it makes people so detached that connection is harder with persons now.
Valuing facts is super; people forget that all facts are written by emotional, thoughtful humans who also speak their mind; not their phone.
its not the fact checking part is thats cell phones have gotten to be a major part of most people's lives so inadvertently if you ask a question they will try to find the answer, if the purpose was missed, its maybe the way you ask the question.
asking stupid questions for the sake of conversation starters might be your problem, and try some other approaches, because now people can find out the answers you asked.
also, the internet is a godsend, it saves people a lot of effort and time
So you cant stand when you cant ramble on and everyone sits and listens to you Penn? Fuck you. Thats what I have to say. You can fact check that if you want.
I agree. It's really irritating to see people that are addicted to their cell phones. I don't bring a cell phone with me when I'm having dinner w/ friends. I leave it in the car.
About your friend: What if someone said, "I have herpes. Will you f--- me w/o a condom?" Or "Can I gang rape you?"
Dude, Penn. If some religious fanatic wants to have a genuine conversation with you and you shoot down their ideas with an immediate fact, don't you think you are killing their conversation? This sounds like the exact opposite of what I have come to expect from you. I have never known you to turn down knowledge in favor of ignorance.
I wait until later and check facts when I'm alone. I think it's a kind of fake pride or arrogance that makes people do it in front of your face during a conversation.
Next time just smack the phone out their hand, Penn. You're a big guy and your message will be loud and clear.
just found a very cool mini cell phone jammer.
google :- yapper zapper phone jammer
irishgeoff1 7 months ago
There are a multitude of reasons cell phones piss me off. People keep their faces buried in these things constantly and talk and text all damn day.
That might sound like something and "old" person might say, but I'm only 19. I just realize that my peers are stupid.
UnchainTheNight1 10 months ago
He's talking about youtube comment conversations. I can't say a damn thing without someone visiting wikipedia, or correcting my spelling, correcting my grammar...
chadd990 1 year ago
Straight up proof that actors have way to much time on there hands.
MrDurcon 1 year ago
Rule 34, Penn. If you can think of it, There is Porn of it.
trebor121290 1 year ago
ah... remember the days when if you saw a guy talking with no one around then he was a nutjob...
rabidchevy 2 years ago
@rabidchevy @rabidchevy Seriously! I give people who look like they might be a bit off their rocker the benefit of the doubt that they might be on a Bluetooth. It should be the other way 'round, where nicely dressed people talking to themselves appear a bit off. :-)
pennsays 2 years ago
@rabidchevy yes seriously!!!! it is a play on words for my name pennsays, can you guess it? and i for prefer the olden days when prince was the weirdo amd michael jackson was the normal one
rabidchevy 2 years ago
@rabidchevy Rabid Chevy . . . hmm, no. Give me a hint.
pennsays 2 years ago
initials ff
rabidchevy 1 year ago
penn's a cool guy but he's a bit long winded...i didn't ever figure him to talk this much for this long.....
supercoolbenwag 2 years ago
Alot of people do miss the point that often conversations are just noise and social interaction, not any sort of "classroom" or research project. Who is "right" at the end of the conversation really doesn't matter when its over, except maybe to both or one of the participants. Took me a while to pick up on that, but its probably more of an old people phenomena, anyway, lol.
l337pwnage 2 years ago
I'm surprised he didn't call his friends on being Extremely Rude. Using any device that pulls your attention away from the person you are supposed to be having a conversation with is a shitty thing to do.
jcpkanaloa 2 years ago
"Listen to everyone and read everything but believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research." - Milton Cooper
milliradian 2 years ago 4
Actually a very interesting point here. It's all part of the de-humanization process technology will take us through.
Tnias13 2 years ago
You are exactly right about this. Never thought about it before.
MsMercury 2 years ago
Pretty deep, actually. Nail on the head, man.
tacoland2000 2 years ago
3. They lack any sense of tranquility inside so they can't bear to be alone with thoughts or in direct, deep,fully engrossing conversation and so they use this device to escape any level of depth since they fear or can not tolerate anything deep for too long a while without retreating or marginalizing it with the device since they are not comforatable with themselves. 4. the technology just becomes so routine that they lose the ability to engage fully and just become constant partial taskers.
7Highlander 2 years ago
I've had similar experiences, and I've thought about why people fact check in this interuptive manner. I've come up with 3 possibilities for why a person does this. 1. They get some sort of ego kick from brandishing and adeptly handeling a new piece of technology. This is especially true of people in your age group or teenagers. 2. They are not ccompletely comfortable or are somewhat nervous with the situation and so the fact checking is a means of retreating into themselves for a bit. 3.
7Highlander 2 years ago
America will be a better place when people really embrace their sexuality.
promontorium 2 years ago
A human being does not need to do every disgusting thing in order to fulfill his sexual desires. Sexuality is part of humanity and in the right context, is beautiful and can bring people closer together. Our desires are greatly influenced by the society we live in. However, Just because one can do it doesn't make it healthy. America will be a better place when people embrace their sexuality in a healthy manner; not in a catholic manner (calling it a sin) and not in an overboard manner.
7Highlander 2 years ago 2
woah. Your inference is a little strong ne? I'm referring to the American idel of making sex a shameful experience, that any sexuality is implicitly "bad" and "dirty" and "everything". The corrupted system of American social sexuality is to use sex as a weapon. It's about status, it's about power, if you're gay, you're evil for it, if you're a woman, you're simultaneously despised AND idolized, and man is portrayed as a bumbling moronic beast. It's all bullshit.
promontorium 2 years ago
i think the reason people do that is, have you ever got something in your head? you know the answer but it just won't come and you keep thinking about it and it just drives you nuts until you find out the answer.
miffed123 2 years ago
There's nothing wrong with taking a break from 24/7 connected life. I certainly wouldn't give up google for good, but there are times when its polite to just pay attention to the person you're speaking to.
ChrisSketch 2 years ago
I'm sorry, what were you saying? ;)
N21X 2 years ago
I am a proud fucking new yorker :)
oldarney 2 years ago
-cartman86-
it's not that old people didn't like new and better things. it's that you where to young and dumb to understand why some of these things are not as safe as they make it out to be... sooo nice try dummy, go drink some more tap water and be quite.
safesexmonster 2 years ago
Calm down Brigadier General Ripper, no one cares about your bodily fluids.
ChrisSketch 2 years ago
w4t noobler? do you have something worth saying?
safesexmonster 2 years ago
What's the matter? Can't hear me through all that tin foil?
ChrisSketch 2 years ago
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wow good comeback idiot... go kill yourself.
safesexmonster 2 years ago
Sure thing. Enjoy your bomb shelter.
ChrisSketch 2 years ago
Wow, someone finally said it.
andharvey8 2 years ago
Well said indeed.
followthereefer 2 years ago
it's something i believe culture lacks with the advent of technology: etiquette. ^_^
hxctalent 2 years ago
lol reminds me of stephen king's "cell" for some reason...at least the ideals he was thinking XD
GreatFlamingPoop 2 years ago
Damn, this exact thought has been on my mind for the past two weeks. I am favoriting this video because it is so important to me.
evsystem 2 years ago
Ethan Coen 21 September 1957
Joel Coen 29 November 1954
Sorry what did you say penn?
ColemanMulkerin 2 years ago 2
I think eventually, probably to your disliking, that this technology will be more involved, but less impeding. IE it would listen to you talking and post statistics and information based on your conversation, almost like it(your phone) was a member of the conversation. Much like when you have a web page that starts underlining words and giving you feedback when you mouse over that word. (I work at this "level" of information technology, it's my profession) ...a lot to take in, but its coming
sillygummiebear 2 years ago
cellphones.
Radiationchild 2 years ago
I like fact checking, I'd like to be able to do it with my brain instantaneously over the net via a wetware jack into the phone. I'll remember the heart of the conversation though and go with that or reexplain if my message with feeling seems to lose the feeling part, or if the message isn't recognized at all.
ScaryGuy255 2 years ago
Well said, Penn. Well said.
fkerpants 2 years ago
If only the NEWS agencies would fact check their reports.
Ajax4Hire 2 years ago 8
I do check in on facts on google...AFTER the conversation...I might bring up what I found the next time I see a person....I am a person who does not like to be misinformed..Not saying that 100% that you find on the web is true....but I hunt around...
savemefrommyselves 2 years ago
I agree 100%. It's the new zen. Yes, my lap is adorned with a laptop while talking to my wife and if anything fact wise matters, it's spectacular that I can pull it right off. Or route my bluetooth to albania. Or find a random 10 digit prime. However, if you brave having this power, it comes with the responsibility to not do it until it's needed turn the train of thought onto a path of noodles. You look up or contact when it matters, otherwise it can wait. Monotasking rules.
LarrySDonald 2 years ago
Bravo!! Nowadays you sit at a table with a group of people and not only does everyone check their phones constantly, but they actually set them on the table like they're a fucking utensil!! We need to relax with the tech shit sometimes and get back to getting to know one another!
Hall1263 2 years ago
texting when talking to someone is so fucking rude.
hazydayz988 2 years ago 3
What an incredibly long winded way to say "Don't be a rude jerk, and pay attention when someone's talking to you". heheh
zzzozzz 2 years ago 3
I'm with ya Penn, turn the damn cell phone off when your talking to me. And mine is always in silent mode anyway. If it goes off and I'm expecting an important call, which is rare, I take a bathroom break. Otherwise, that's what the answering service portion of my contract is for.
uglyengineer 2 years ago
I missed the second half of the video, but that "sex act" stuff is crazy. And the Coen brothers are 54 and 52 years old.
ghuegel 2 years ago
To clarify, my last comment was a joke and I agree with Penn on this. It annoys the hell out of me, people who constantly need to be on the internet or talking on the phone, especially when it's just two of us.
ghuegel 2 years ago
Penn, would you jerk me off if i let you fuck me in the ass?
donotfeedthetroll 2 years ago
Your not the FURTHEST from a luddite... you're not a luddite, but still - no one is hooking up media ports to your sensory receptors any time soon.
shuttledik 2 years ago
Very good video today :)
myownbutterfly2076 2 years ago
Oh, great.... now I want to know what the sex act was. 8-/
lovetbaby 2 years ago
how can you NOT tell us what the sex act is?
Rathause 2 years ago 2
God forbid that facts would ever get in the way of the way you percieve the truth.
zenguin13 2 years ago
wow for penn to call this "a sex act" it must be pretty bad...with donkeys and midgets.
Limejello10512 2 years ago
better to have this then not have this though. Its somthing we can turn off like you penn, somthing we shouldnt abuse for trivial things. Yeah ppl suck at talking
kendjo 2 years ago
I don't even have a mobile phone. I've never had one and I don't want one.
I've never had that problem of people fact-checking during a conversation. I guess it depends on the sort of people you hang around with. Or maybe it's just that I have so few friends it just hasn't had a chance to happen yet.
You can find any imaginable sexual thing on the internet. I was surprised to find out how common the stuff I like is on here. And I'm really weird.
kittyprydekissme 2 years ago
Yep, I agree Penn...its a "time and place" argument, and frankly its a point well taken.
tinyskustoms 2 years ago
I will I admit I have a problem with fact checking on my iPhone, but I've never let it derail my conversation. Being 22 i've grown up in a society and age bracket that makes multitasking a regular occurrence, but I've always tried to make the more immediate task the most important, and to your point, human interaction is probably the most important part of having a conversation or being out of the house.
Chazzi27 2 years ago
I think this was an astute view of where a lot of conversation is headed. Quentin Crisp once wrote something like--You say I talk for talking's sake (as though it's something bad). Would you say that if I danced for dancing's sake?
In other words, talk is art. Great talk is a masterpiece. When two or more people are creating a masterpiece together, what could be more brilliant and beautiful, and showcase such a distinctly human trait?
I just really, really liked this vid.
tekobari 2 years ago
I never knew Penn was a Klingon
Nilopollis 2 years ago
There is a difference between truth and trivia. Allowing the search for an incidental fact to derail a deeper discussion is no great service to knowledge. Few great achievements were born of short attention spans.
VeniVidiVid 2 years ago 3
Hey Penn we can talk. I don't have a fucken cell phone. =]
Ryan2142 2 years ago
Honestly, I started up my handheld and checked the age of the Coen Brothers before the video had ended. I also learned how many of their movies I love.
axelasdf 2 years ago
You are absolutely right!
joepaultx 2 years ago
After watching the video: sounds like you have another topic for a Bullshit episode. What is true sexual morality without relying on an old religious text on the subject?
Truthiness231 2 years ago
I think a lot of what makes this kind of thing annoying or inappropriate is the speed factor. Right now, we may feel like we're really "living in the future", but in fact this is all still VERY, very slow. Slow enough to make something FAST and efficient, like a conversation, derail. When it becomes something that say, a personal A.I. agent takes care of for you in real time on a heads up display rather than a little box you have to carry and type into, it won't be as intrusive. IMHO.
gotilk 2 years ago
And I spelled Coen wrong.
Anyway, this is one of those things I complain about where it can't be reciprocal. See, I want to be fact-checked when I speak, but if I ever spoke to someone who doesn't want it, it's considered taboo.
It's just like correcting my grammar. I believe that correct grammar is important. If you don't, fine. But either correct mine, or let me correct yours. The "my way of doing things all the time" rule is not fair to me.
paulamore 2 years ago
Joel Coen was born in 1954
Ethan Coan was born in 1957
Penn Jillette was born in 1955.
paulamore 2 years ago
I share your frustration. Thank you.
UssenterprizeDv2 2 years ago
Very thought provoking Penn. We're definately living in a technology obsessed , instant gratification world.
And your sex-obessed friend seems like a real freak. Hope you don't let him around your kids, I'm just sayin'...
Polymorphous perversity seems more an excuse for arrested development. Apparently this guy can only think wih his dick
broadjumper1 2 years ago
I'm not really sure why so many people seem lost on the point being made here.
I'm sure that Penn would agree that there are many instances where people should check their facts before making absolute statements, but also that there are many conversations in life where the minutiae will only serve as unimportant and sometimes rude distraction.
From here we seem to need some discussion as to why human comprehension levels seem to be at an all-time low in such a modern age.
teddybeardustin 2 years ago
The truth is important to a lot of people.
kilorat 2 years ago
I agree with you totally people are so obsessed with technology that they are rude enough to whip out a phone in the middle of a convo, the price of technology on a species not evolved enough to make it a less important aspect of life
IDiedForYou1776 2 years ago
It's just a fad, Penn. It'll be annoying for a few years and then people will get tired of it and move on to the next annoying thing.
pheidias1 2 years ago
I wouldn't be so sure. Whenever humans get a technology that gives them information immediately, they cling to it forever it seems.
masonkiller666 2 years ago
Rule 34
llollercoaster 2 years ago
I think Penn's ideas are a little off at times, so all this fact checking kind of stunts his ranting lol. I welcome the fact checking, the issue to me is the timing. When he said "facts are getting in the way of the truth" I think that says it all. Facts are stunting Penn's Bullshit lol Btw I'm a big fan but we're all full of it sometimes, or much of the time, lol...
AtheistDawa 2 years ago
LOL wow....the host of "Bullshit!" complaining about fact-checking...EPIC hypocrisy.
macwild1234 2 years ago
Wow, way to miss the entire point of the video. You need to take a shower.
TheCapn23 2 years ago
LOL wow.. another internet comment totally missing the point of the discussion.. EPIC stupidity.
teddybeardustin 2 years ago
Another comment in which you shun facts.
JerkyChid 2 years ago
Yeah but facts have a notorious history of liberal bias, and we can't have that now can we? =P
Truthiness231 2 years ago 2
upthumb for you
JerkyChid 2 years ago
Where are there any facts to shun in my response to an individual who like yourself has wildly misinterpreted the point of this video?
You need to improve your aim a bit if shooting from the hip is your style.
teddybeardustin 2 years ago
Rule 34 is the term for porn of a sexual act, and if it can't be found it will be made.
gwagblade 2 years ago
not quite. you're thinking of rule 35
CodyM 2 years ago
Rule 34 go lurk for yourself
gwagblade 2 years ago
So Penn just said "Facts get in the way of the truth"
.....
WHAT?!
JerkyChid 2 years ago
Missing the point.
treytrey3 2 years ago
That seemed like the point to me; and if it really is.. wow. Penn is the only libertarian I respect and if he really believes what I think he does then I can say that I respect no libertarians at all.
JerkyChid 2 years ago
No, I think you are missing it as well.
Have you ever found yourself telling a story where you couldn't really remember some small detail that even if you had remembered it, it wouldn't have made a difference at all in the conversation?
Well, when someone breaks out their phone to focus on such an unimportant detail it becomes much more likely they will be missing the real heart of the matter.
It is just that there are times when the facts are important, but also times when they are not.
teddybeardustin 2 years ago
Yes and it didn't bother me because I hold that facts are ALWAYS important. When that happens I just continue on with what I was saying afterwards.
JerkyChid 2 years ago
Remind me never to tell you a joke, lest you pull out your phone and google the statistics of the number of times that a priest, a minister, and a rabbi have actually all walked into a bar together.
It would really bum me out trying to have a good time making someone laugh only to find out I don't have my facts straight.
teddybeardustin 2 years ago
13%
JerkyChid 2 years ago
I think of the movie "Mr. Woodcock".
"Rhetorical question, Farley!!! I already knew the answer!!!"
milkboneunderwear 2 years ago
Rather than holding back technology, or avoiding fact checking ... maybe we need to to a better job with our rhetorical questions?
bpabbott1st 2 years ago
The art of conversation is rapidly finding it's way out the door these days. Amazing point and sad truth.
kjmurr823 2 years ago
This is the free world we're making for ourselves, you're all for that. What? You don't like it when the free world does something you don't like now such as overly fact checking and eating excessively to an unhealthy? What's so wrong with that? Derailing the passion of a persons speech, maybe that's the world we're making for ourselves. You want liberty, you gotta include the desire for it's consequences too, otherwise, you don't look like something you're trying to preach.
Mortello 2 years ago
I agree...I was at dinner with some relatives who I haven't seen in quite some time last night and my phone rang and I didn't react at all. All the people at the table couldn't believe I could just let the phone ring without answering it. I told them that's what voice mail and caller ID are for. I'm not missing anyone, and if they can't wait 30 minutes or so for me to finish my meal then they really didn't need to speak to me at all.
Dahgrostabphri 2 years ago 3
i think a lot of "facts" on the internet need checking themselves, yet people take it as being true no matter the source
mountaindewjoe 2 years ago
4chan has it.
UbelFeuer 2 years ago
lol i was just on 4chan and i saw your comment
camaflashstudio 2 years ago
is this a round about way of saying its ok to let Christianity slide?
oldhacks 2 years ago
GO ARMY dots COM woo hoo Kill Kill Kill! professional push ups!
oldhacks 2 years ago
You know, my grandmother was a terrible fact-checker long before the internet came to her home, and far before cellphones were any fancy to anyone.
Someone would be telling a story, and not only would she correct them, she would go find whatever resource she had to prove them wrong. If she had no resource, she'd go into a small explanation of how she knew her facts. She was great at derailing conversations.
I don't think it's a technological phenomenon. It's a personality thing.
LadyRhii 2 years ago 2
your grandma is just weird. and if your sitting in a restaraunt like that you cant run home to pull out resources, you can only fact-check with a phone.
freshpickedoranges 2 years ago
im 35, self employed and refuse to own a cellphone. i dont want to give everyone the ability to contact me whenever they want nor do i need the ability to contact them.
as for the fact checking thing...i have to disagree...people run off at the mouth, or post on their blog or on youtube, etc without fact checking a single thing. fact checking today is simply repeating the bumper sticker sized one liners they find on the internet and agree with.
mysticx0 2 years ago
I'm with you. I'm 29 and refuse to own a cellphone. I had a prepaid that I used for emergencies or when I was on the road for my convenience. Once people found out my cell number they assumed I was just like them and the cell was my primary phone and that I obsessively had it on me. It fried last year and I have no intention of getting one again.
drunkasssteve 2 years ago
he isn't saying not to own cellphones or hold back technology. he's saying you shouldn't fact check in the middle of a conversation.
really easy when he makes that point like 10 times.
freshpickedoranges 2 years ago
I wasn't responding to the video, I was responding to another user.
drunkasssteve 2 years ago
hahaha mad props man!
lordjared 2 years ago
how can you disagree when he says they were fact checking, not running to the window to look at the nearest bumper sticker for some information they were going on google and looking for facts. no disagreeing with that.
freshpickedoranges 2 years ago
u r exactly what im talking about.i said "bumper sticker sized one liners" and you turn it into people looking at actual bumper stickers.READ.before you click 'post comment' CHECK YOUR FACTS
and typing something into google is not fact checking.most people only click on links that give the info they WANT and not the facts.i can type into google about obamas birth cert and get completely different results.google isnt fact checking its lazy
u cant even comment on my comment w/o f'ing that up
mysticx0 2 years ago
buddy your fucking stupid. all that needs to be said.
freshpickedoranges 2 years ago
wow that was impressive...not really but expected.
when confronted with your own moronic mistakes theres only two options. admit them and repost your comment after forming a well thought out reply to the words i actually used...or call someone a name and run away.
thank you though, for showing what side you stand with.
mysticx0 2 years ago
coolio
freshpickedoranges 2 years ago
This is so true... it is becoming almost cumbersome to try and talk to people, and maintain any sense of continuity.
latenightloki 2 years ago
stop complaining about the adds...i have a simple add block for firefox and it removes the adds
ProudAtheist90 2 years ago
Woah really? Where can I download this?
justanotherdruid 2 years ago
just go to the firefox addon place...and search for add-block plus or something like that
ProudAtheist90 2 years ago
Did you consider that googling competition to find the sex act might be more entertaining then what you were talking about, Penn?
LaughingMan42 2 years ago
Penn, yur old. There's nothing wrong with mutlitasking before, during, or after a conversation IF both parties are cool with it. It's all about context.
clearmenser 2 years ago
Wait Penn, what was that? I was checking how old the Coen brothers are.
donotswallow 2 years ago
these ads are rubbish!
defect530 2 years ago
adblock plus on firefox. lurn2it
NuLLx42 2 years ago
i like the ad blocker but not a fan of fire fox
defect530 2 years ago
I mean ADblock the firefox extention. Fire fox is great, you should try it.
NuLLx42 2 years ago
I would never do that while talking w/ someone, but I will go fact-check afterwards for my own satisfaction.
86COLE 2 years ago
Does anybody else the change in video player???
>:C...Youtube is always messing with the player!
PhillipThunderGrunge 2 years ago
I'm glad I can't shit and breathe at the same time.
Lamnont 2 years ago
penn, thank you for existing...
MeestaKeefGirly 2 years ago
Multitasking was designed by corporations years ago to make the drones more productive.
Don't do it.
MrOldSlacker 2 years ago
Actually, multitasking was invented when the first child was born.
If you can't multitask, you're a shit parent.
elspoko 2 years ago
damn it i got the army commercial that time streak over
iGrattak 2 years ago
Quite frankly when I am speaking with people unless they pardon themselves I always get pissed off when the use their cell phones
SeriouslyPissedOff 2 years ago
Boo hoo!
TeamVacaville 2 years ago
yes I find it really irritating when people have to check their phones every 5 seconds like they might miss if their friend took a shit or something, seriously. I was at a friends and we were all watching a movie and it's really hard to enjoy a movie when everyone is fucking texting or talking on their phones instead of engaging in the group activity of watching a movie with people that are actually in the room. wtf
NihongoMusic 2 years ago 3
This is an issue of what is placed with value; human input, a fallible source, or human input via electronic mediums , which is (usually) reliable.
The best way to counter this feeling is to read the web for info prior to speaking, or become the phone user yourself... or explain how it makes people so detached that connection is harder with persons now.
Valuing facts is super; people forget that all facts are written by emotional, thoughtful humans who also speak their mind; not their phone.
fallingstarblues 2 years ago
my cell phone is letting me watch this.
gavin32 2 years ago
The machines have taken over. What are your coordinates, human?
JohnRLange 2 years ago 2
its not the fact checking part is thats cell phones have gotten to be a major part of most people's lives so inadvertently if you ask a question they will try to find the answer, if the purpose was missed, its maybe the way you ask the question.
asking stupid questions for the sake of conversation starters might be your problem, and try some other approaches, because now people can find out the answers you asked.
also, the internet is a godsend, it saves people a lot of effort and time
Jackalofdeath 2 years ago 2
I miss effort. . in society that is. .
jespin2006 2 years ago 3
So Martin Mull likes to perform crazy sex acts with the Coen Brothers? I'll put it on Wikipedia.
culwin 2 years ago 4
So you cant stand when you cant ramble on and everyone sits and listens to you Penn? Fuck you. Thats what I have to say. You can fact check that if you want.
MrBoredatwork 2 years ago
what do you fact check everything you say?
equalitynoww 2 years ago
I can't stand when Penn can't ramble on and I can't sit and listen to him.
So fuck you.
Paradox3121 2 years ago
Don't watch it then dumbass
DarkApple47 2 years ago
Sure hope you didn't reply to me on purpose!
Paradox3121 2 years ago
Speaking of Martin Mull I checked the Wikipedia page and found an interesting Ben Stein quote at the bottom.
(Fact check at your own peril)
lvecsey 2 years ago
I agree. It's really irritating to see people that are addicted to their cell phones. I don't bring a cell phone with me when I'm having dinner w/ friends. I leave it in the car.
About your friend: What if someone said, "I have herpes. Will you f--- me w/o a condom?" Or "Can I gang rape you?"
MishuTaste 2 years ago
Dude, Penn. If some religious fanatic wants to have a genuine conversation with you and you shoot down their ideas with an immediate fact, don't you think you are killing their conversation? This sounds like the exact opposite of what I have come to expect from you. I have never known you to turn down knowledge in favor of ignorance.
edgeofblade 2 years ago
lets turn amish
humantestdummy 2 years ago
Don't forget what happened to the Ming Dynasty!
phantomspellchecker 2 years ago
I wait until later and check facts when I'm alone. I think it's a kind of fake pride or arrogance that makes people do it in front of your face during a conversation.
Next time just smack the phone out their hand, Penn. You're a big guy and your message will be loud and clear.
AnneOnAMoose 2 years ago
There is no single mind, there is only the internet
There is no truth, there is only facts
There is no understanding, there is only comprehension
There is no love, there is only possibilities
This is the fucked up world we live in. I don't think people actually realize that, which fucks things up more!
ajr5086 2 years ago
go slit your wrists emo
xtstonex 2 years ago
He said as he posted yet another comment on youtube.
irtimed 2 years ago
I can't stand it when my son comes over and has his phone on. There is no way to have a decent conversation with anyone!
sweetseasons1 2 years ago 4
Yeah, man I hate when people do that shit *opens new tab in firefox and checks how old the Coen bros. are* AHHHHHHHHHHHH the matrix has me!!!1!
murd3rface 2 years ago
Hah, I know people like that.
7gamex 2 years ago
Maybe they are just tired of listening to you and want to end the conversation.
Genjosprig 2 years ago
maybe tv news anchors should get cell phones so they can check whatever statistics the asshole they're interviewing is putting out.
or maybe they should hire journalists too do news again...
monkeychipsx2 2 years ago 7
maybe living in a rural area i dont find that happening but it probably will eventually
dragonflychainsaw 2 years ago
This is the first time you've ever sounded OLD!!! Haha, I agree with you on this however.
JPaulDiLucci 2 years ago
ive never used a computer eitherWAIT FUCK
Microwavish 2 years ago 9