Hell yes the taxation of lower paid workers should be scrapped in favour of a higher income tax for the rich as if they cannot aford it over 100,000 pound salaries and that it is beyond a joke. No point doing overtime either is all goes to the taxman or on the unbelievable cost of living compared to the salaries of the working class.
The Iraq could have been a double bluff... think of Yukoslavia (sp), when the leader holding their country together died the country went into civil war and NATO had to come rescue Kosovo.. maybe they just wanted to take control of Iraq before Saddam died and the country was plunged into chaos anyway?
The last time I had any sense of England being great was when the Falkland Islands were taken back from an invasion of what is - rightly or wrongly - our territory.
Many may argue that the world is a different and more dangerous place now. But that is as much a fault of the West as anyones !
If the Middle Eastern countries started dorpping bombs on my country from on high, killing my family, I`d want revenge !
Someone said that they`d still like TB ( sorry !) as PM if it weren`t for the iraq war. I agree. He went to war - apparently on the assumption that Iraq was developing WMD`s. Well we - the West - have WMD`s AND NO ONE KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN THE IRAQIS ! Oh - except perhaps the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima !
As an Irish man I feel deeply indebted to Blair for the time and effort he put into Northern Ireland for the good of both our countries. He may have got it wrong with Iraq but he appears to have made that decision with his conscience and it'll probably be a decision that haunts him. Saying that, I don't thing Cameron or his numerous predecessors would have made any different or better choices given their initially unwaivering support for the war.
If it was not for the war in iraq, i would have wanted him to stay in office. The PM we have now is a joke!!! And what other option do we have?.... david cameron!!!! God help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think blair did a great job compared to others before him and indeed after. as for the war on terror its the twisted world of extreme religion which has caused the problems
the Greatest PMs of the 20th century didn't get such a good goodbye as he did. The three greatest are Sir Winston Churchill, Margret Thatcher and David Lloyd George. And do you notice on the faith and state question with advise to his successor Gordon Brown actually starts to stand up
Blair and his disgusting wife should be hunted down and burnt at the Stake for what they have done to Britain. His legacy ? An Illegal war in Iraq, The European Human Rights Charter for Terrorists and Criminals everywhere, Selling out the people of Ulster, The highest percentage of earning being paid in taxes, 6 Million people not working and living on a whole host of different benefits, Immigration through the roof. The man is a corrupt liar and history will not remember him fondly.
Nothing special-I go to work eveyday and pay an unbelievable proportion of what I earn in tax to pay for the "victims" of society that we should all feel so sorry for because they either can't be bothered to get out of their bed in the morning or because of new labours ridiculous benefit culture it isn't worth their while. I deserve to have more of a say as to how MY money is spent rather than some benefit jockey.
Coming to its senses, slowly. Blair did NOT kill thousands of people. Insurgents did. Get that in your thick head. Sorry to be so rude - but I've had enough of people who called OUR leaders murderers, while happily, it seems, condoning real murderers.
Ah well - he's already missed. Especially now that they've finally realised what we have running this country. Pity jis party didn't listen to such as me (in all modesty) before they plunged the knife in.
:O ian paisley was there!!!!!!!!!!!! why would u let a terrorist speek int he house of commons!?!?! u might as well of have gerry adams there to and the head of the BNP ffs
I was being sarcastic saying that ian paisley shouldnt have been allowed there, hes an northern irish hitler,e.g. he said that all Irish Republicans should be liquidated, seems just like a Hitler quote to me
NOW, people are realising! You should all have joined me in my campaign to "Keep Tony Blair For PM". Then we may have stopped the seemingly inevitable decline of Labour. Having said that, I've never been a Labour supporter. I would be if Tony Blair were still there. But sometimes a great leader, as was ... I mean ... IS Blair stands out as deserving of cross-party supporter. Thus Cameron's tribute. Shame we seldom hear his words of wisdom, humour, courtesy and lightness of touch. A larger stage!
I do hope Tiny Blur becomes President of The EU - we could I believe count on him doing as much damage to The EU with his lies, arrogant, incompetent hubris and economic illiteracy as he did to Britain whilst in Kontrol.
That might be one way of repatriating our Democracy, re-establishing independence and reinstating our liberty, sovereignty, Justice, BORDERS, sovereignty and self determination and at the same time helping the peoples of Europe to deconstruct the Evils of the EU Global greed
BlairSupporter I understand your annoyance when confronted with facts that refute your fantasy.
The Blair/Brown decade have proved catastrophic on every count having started with a sound economy in a rising market they squandered every advantage and betrayed the peoples of these United Kingdoms such that now 80% of our laws are imposed at Westminster by the corrupt profligate and obscene EU. The health service is in ruins with devolved irresponsibility and we are over run with 8,500 QUANGOs
Your arguments are rubbish because they conflate common and wrong-headed assumptions on Blair with your prejudices against Europe.Not enough space here to pursue these arguments, but following the 1957 Treaty of Rome ALL British PMs have agreed on our place in Europe. As for the UK, we have been the example for the EU & the rest of the world over the last 10 years. And they ALL know it. Unraveling now, true, but to imply that THIS government IN THE EU is the Unique Villain is simply rubbish.
History will see this dishonest and corrupt man's 10 years in office as the most shamefull in British history. A liar whose dishonesty led to the loss of 100s of 1,000s of innocent lives. An excrescence on the footprint of history. Brown will merely be shown as an economic illiterate without style, charisma, competence or ability a pathetic little man in a job too big for him he stands no chance of EVER winning an election, gained power sheltering from view Hopeless, Hapless & social inadequate
For every good thing Sir Winston Churchill did to preserve the identity of our people and our nation, these spineless do-gooders have destroyed it.
Giving away all that we have achieved.. all of our herritage, our power and our tradition to the Americans, and Islam.
As these old fools sit here laughing and joking, there are Britsh servicemen fighting and dieing in a war that was not our own, while our teachers educate their sons / daughters in festivals and religions that are not our own.
Thank you for uploading this video, I am a fan of Mr Blair and in 10 or 20 years time I think we'll look back on his time in number 10 and he'll be right up their with the best of them. A great PM.
tell me what was good about him? Giving control of the country to the EU, was that good? Putting up millions of cameras invading our privacy was that good?
Maurice, have you heard of a little thing called the Second World War? Belittle Churchill's role in that if you want, but it'll make you look completely idiotic.
blair was a very claver PM, he done alot for this country but just had made wrong decsion to go on war with iraq , but i think he was a good leader for britian.
he's a very fine man and he has done a lot of good for britain from 1997 - 2007. i've had a good education, good health services and i've felt relatively safe
We count Churchill as the best Briton and the best PM - he had his problems as did Thatcher. And some far worse than Blairs. Just think about that before you join the Youtube Negativity Mafia!
You have to look at his whole ten years as Prime Minister. I would suggest he did more good than bad. Don't clapping in the House is banned and there has never before been a standing ovation. Two things done here along with genuine approving words from well respected MPs. I'd challenge anyone to be a leader of 13 years and PM of 10 years and get it right everytime!
Haha... Lib Dems have stupid policys and are a silly party, My Father was a politician and had many debates with Lib Dem's, They will never ever win an election.
Haha... Lib Dems have stupid policys and are a silly party, My Father was a politician and had many debates with Lib Dem's, They will never ever win an election.
its well documented that sadam hussian killed alot more,what was blair meant to do ? wait for the next pm with balls to help the world get rid of that mudering bastard ? im sure if you where an iraqi and a menber of your family was murdered or beaten or tortued,i think you may of joined the millions of other iraqies in a cry for help to he outside world !!
there are plenty of dictators that have killed a lot more people than saddam hussain, he just was unfourtunate to be sitting on top of a big oceon of oil lol. also, they only picked on the bully they could beat.
Margaret Beckett (Former Foreign Secretary) was in tears as Blair walked out. Although I disliked him towards the end, I think he will go down as one of the greatest PM's this country has ever had. Not as great as Thatcher, but pretty close. Good Luck Mr Blair!
Are you kidding? This man devasted Hundreds of thousands of lives by supporting the Iraq war. He has undermined civil liberties to the point of no return and HAS BOUND SUCESSIVE PARLIAMENTS to rule by the EU
She transformed this country from a backward manufacturing based country to a quaternary industrial nation. She inspired the people, made people free from government interference. She stood up to foreign nations and she believed Britain still had it. Great Woman.
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Thankfully Sharia Law will soon dominate British Whites.
Maybe not 5 or 10 years down the line, but definitely within a few decades.
If you look at the birth rates of us Asian Muslims and then the black people in Britain, it is simply huge.
I know a black muslim brother who has 9 kids.
Then if you look at the fact that the white population gets smaller every year due to low birth rates and then look at the fact that just one in five immigrants to britain are now white, you have it.
And what basis do you argue this upon? Or is it just to flare the flames of hatred? Or is this your way of preaching Islam? There is also something called is wisdom.
its well documented that sadam hussian killed alot more,what was blair meant to do ? wait for the next pm with balls to help the world get rid of that mudering bastard ? im sure if you where an iraqi and a menber of your family was murdered or beaten or tortued,i think you may of joined the millions of other iraqies in a cry for help to he outside world !!
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He was the worst thing to happen to this country and if you disagree with that, then you're just one of the silly do gooders that's helped to bring this country down. Because it is already down, this isn't the same place anymore and I want to leave this shit-hole as soon as I can.
fuglyno1 - no-one who gets to be PM is 'all stupid' - well not enough to screw up on all fronts, but aren't all those local benefits you've seen more to do with your local government and achieved in spite of central control, not because of it?
No wonder you think so highly of him then - he was one of the most right wing PM's of the last century. He has irreversibly damaged this country in a way that only Thatcher has managed to equal before him. She was in Reagan's pocket as Blair has been in Bush's. See any similarity? Why yes - just a minute - they were both ranting right-wing republicans with no more grasp of international politics than the average 10 year old!
but he did alot for ordinary people. i know that my town is a far better place now than it was before new labour, particularly the local schools. theres tons of new facilities where im from, it continues to be regenerated and there is gradual improvements year on year. doesn't mean the people are getting any less likely to get drunk, cause trouble and complain, but its a better place to live. so he wasn't all bad.
Quite refreshing to see joviality and wit with no less passion, isn't it.
A refreshing diversion from 'debates' involving Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter--or even the catfights/gangsta wars between supporters of competing candidates of the Donkey Party--on the other side of the pond.
That WAS polite! Very. How many of these have you seen? This was exceptionally civilised - mainly becasue they all knew they were going to miss him.
And they do.
The first time ANY PM has had a standing ovation from the whole House.
The longest serving MP said, and he should know - "He is one of the outstanding prime ministers of my political lifetime and withou doubt the most politically effective PM this party has ever had".
Faith question - the Lib Dem asked partly because he suspected that Brown, as a Scot and scared of Islam & multiculturalism is keen on disestablishing the Church of England. That's why Brown looked worried. Anyway Blair always destroyed all of them! But gently. CLASS.
Brown is no match. He gets riled too easily.
Some of us miss Blair dreadfully. A brilliant prime minister. But even he couldn't take any more knives in the back from Brown & The Lesser Beings. (Good name for a band, that!)
In about ten years everyone will be saying how amazing he was... I liked him!!! God help us if Cameron gets in - no so much HIM but the Tory faith-fools!
i doubt the tone will be like this when Bush leaves office here in America, though, a lot of here actually might and will be happy becuase he is leaving
That is more an indictment of the attitude of Democratic Members of Congress than it is of the one Republican whose policies and decisions they disagree with.
Blair has fucked Britain right up. I hope he gets a rare form of cancer that has no treatment and rots slowly and painfully in one of his dirty understaffed NHS hospitals being treated by sub-standard doctors that are the product of his dumbed down failing education system. The cunt.
It is the west and our way of life which these people do not agree with but we will not change and that is why i respect one of the greatest politicians to have graced the office of Prime Minister.
No matter what opinion anyone may hold Tony Blair did alot for this country, He was always pushing forward britains role as a major world power.I did not agree with Iraq but we are there. People need to realise that the world is changing faster than in any other period in time and us getting involved in iraq would not have saved us from terrorism.
I agree 100% with the post below; Tony Blair was the best thing that ever happened to this country. When he left, there was lot of vitriol and complete lack of persepctive, but now people are beginning to see how much good he did. A truly principled person and a top notch leader.
BOLLOCKS, this country was recovering long before Blair arrived, it was only after he was elected that we realised it. + the actions of Blair (Iraq war) have increased terrorism, look at 7/7 and the Madrid bombings.
History will judge that his entire tenure as leader of Britain embodied something og a modern golden age. Whatever the why's and wherefors, economically, culturally and globally our influence reached a high-water mark. Iraq was his Suez, but he did far more good than bad. If only his critics could grasp the concept of balanced opinion.
If New Labour were actually left-wing (even just reasonably left, not necessarily communist) then things would be much better. I really can't see how you can class New Labour as "commy". They've privatised faster than the Major govt, they've built less social housing than the Major govt, they've continued the disastrous PFI intiative. What a shambles. In the event of a hung parliament, a Lab-Tory alliance would be the most likely scenario, on the grounds of present policy differences.
Nationalisation can be a useful economic management technique, for example if NL would nationalise Northern Rock then most economists would agree with that too. But what's this thing about private being better than public? Look at the railways: even the bourgoisee think that the govt runs railways better: that's why they allowed the railways, and lots of industry, come to think of it, during the World Wars, to be temporarily nationalised.
Look at Network Rail having to have more and more stuff being brought back in house. And look at the hospitals' (run by appointed directors)MRSA and stuff due to subcontracting of cleaning staff. The main trouble with nationalisation is that the govt just takes the profits and doesn't reinvest, but that's the fault of the govt involved, not the fault of the process.
Alternative Economic Strategy could have worked wonders. And as it happens, the economy would have improved anyhow, as the North Sea oil came in. That was such a huge boost for balance of payments. That money could have done so much, but the Thatcher govt squandered it on tax cuts for the rich, and Blair/Brown squander it on stupid wars.
And speaking of balance of payments, they're way down and the Treasury's annual borrowing is getting onto £40bn a year. Whereas when Callaghan borrowed £2bn (and paid it back by 79), there was a huge outcry. There's been great economic times recently, on the back of cheap Oriental imports. And now its coming to an end and things don't look so good, do they?
So now we've got a hugely indebted state with precious few assets to sell, and the IMF are very concerned. Sounds like a basket case of an economy. Our chief "industry", moving money around, will fall apart when the big crunch happens. And then New Labour will look very silly, and the Tories will make a stupid diagnosis that they've been too socialist, get power like in 79 and slash what NL has done, plus some more. Now that's what I call progress - Not! Watch, and see what happens.
They didn't need to do got to Toryland to attract your sort of voters. They got a landslide in 1997: they could have been social democratic and still got a quite reasonable majority. Then they wouldn't have their current problem of majority shrinking because their traditional voters have finally had enough.
2. The next general election need not be called until 03 June 2010.
3. Mr Blair stepped aside 27 June 2007.
The above facts mean that even those of us who find (Old) Labour, even Mr Bush, distasteful are compelled to acknowledge the stubborn reality that Mr Blair had nearly three full years left to serve out his third (maximum-of-)five-year term with a secure majority.
Modify the pet theory? First of all I clearly highlight the facts of what constituted to Blair's downfall. Too much power resulted in too much fuckups & to top it off kissing up to Bush which added more weight to him. Its pretty clear what I stated. Blair was on the lowest of lows in polls at 26%.
(ii) in a period of no more than a few weeks, with no other political party gaining more than a few digits higher than the 'lowest 26%' at best
(iii) for the rest of the period between 1997 and JUN2007 with no other political party gaining more than Mr Blair's lowest nor more than his highest 'poll ratings'
PMs do lose office due to the mood of the ppl. The GE that Blair lost him a shitload of seats. Had he of won the same. Too bad it doesn't register in your brain there. Know that his popularity was declining greatly due to the errors he had made and the mood of the public wanted a change. Therefore he stood down b/c he knew it. When Brown stepped in labor's popularity went back up but is now declining once again.
> When Brown stepped in labor's popularity went back up
So if OPINION POLLS indicating reduced support 'means the people have expressed their will that they want a change--it is reason for the Prime Minister to step down', ...
Consistent with your reasoning: during the times when OPINION POLLS conducted by newspapers, advertising agencies and polling agencies indicated more support for the Conservatives than for Labour ...
QUESTION IV:
Did that 'mean that the people have expressed their will that they want a change--it serves as grounds to install David Cameron as Prime Minister'?
If OPINION POLLS conducted by newspapers, advertising agencies and polling agencies are 'the will of the people', ...
QUESTION V:
What are general elections and by-elections for?
Should elections be for selecting MPs only, and opinion polls be for the selection of the Prime Minister?
Wouldn't that make the winner a President, rather than a Prime Minister? Nay, wouldn't that make him more of an entertainment figure--a star--than an elected government official?
MORE QUESTIONS: Should you call the opinion poll "The X-Factor" because it is to choose the British Prime Minister and because "X" is "10" for "10 Downing Street"? Should you let Simon Cowell produce it? Should Randy Jackson and Paula Abdul be invited, too? Or should it be just Louis Walsh, Sharon Osbourne and Dannii Minogue? Or should it just be Simon Cowell and Sharon Osbourne because Dannii Minogue is Australian and Louis Walsh is Irish? LOL
So it is clear that Blair's mistakes cost him and this was 1 of the reasons for his closeness with Bush. Too bad it doesn't register in your brain there.
Labor suffered a massive swing. He knew his time was up after going siding with Bush. And to also answer the whole kissing up to Bush. When former close buddies Koizumi,Berlusconi,Aznar,Aznar have all fallen as a result of their action. Violating international law resulted in a backfire of public approval
Jacques Chirac was getting old & his term expired. Gerhard wanted to step down. Bad comparison to Blair. Blair was a good leader for UK especially on the economic side of things even though he wasn't that original. After all he ripped off Paul Keating
Chirac would have wanted to stay or would have wanted his annointed succeed him--the electorate said otherwise. So much for 'don't kiss up to Bush, and be assured of another term in office'.
Schröder, too, wanted to stay--he battled with Merkel for him to stay in office despite his party losing to the latter's (albeit by a tiny margin), either through an alliance with other parties or through a grand alliance dominated by his own. Again, so much for 'don't kiss up to Bush, and be assured of another term in office'.
1 Blair had a deal with Brown to step down (notwithstanding any lingering emotional attachments to Number 10)
2 even Brown the replacement is not confident enough to win any general election called soon; nor is Cameron, nor are the anti-war LibDems, much less the rabid and visceral anti-American Galloway.)
I hope you do better with your replacement-theory.
Schröder- made a number of gaffes and blunders & mistakes. E.g. Dick sucking off Putin and his highly stupid remarks and the amount of idiots in his cabinet. As for Blair,he did something that was heavily opposed by the British ppl & that was kiss up to Bush which angered many Brits. Therefore bringing his approval rating down & down and yes the scandals too.
How many general elections and by-elections have there been since MRC2003?
That is how many times the British electorate--notwithstanding opinion polls, internet fora and street marches--have delivered their verdict on the then-PM and his decisions.
(This apart from the fact that 'approval ratings' rise and fall as frequently as polls are taken.
(And that elected leaders are beholden only to those who actually vote--regardless of how many say what to pollsters, how many post what how many times on blogs and message boards, and how many have the time to march.)
if it wasnt for george bush, we would still have him, and not this idiot gordon brown.
henrythesteinberg 3 years ago
goodbye, i will miss you!!!!
MajorChavez11 3 years ago
Things can only get better!
mufcevo 3 years ago
I think moron Brown has shown they could only get much much worse
worcesterwombat 3 years ago
Well, the tories and Labour seem to love each other deep down.
dartaddict 3 years ago 3
TB is tuberculosis people
Talented Tony was a great leader for 13 years
8data 3 years ago
ok good bye i wish he took Gordan Brown with him as well and that Speaker
ChurchillisEngland 3 years ago
Hell yes the taxation of lower paid workers should be scrapped in favour of a higher income tax for the rich as if they cannot aford it over 100,000 pound salaries and that it is beyond a joke. No point doing overtime either is all goes to the taxman or on the unbelievable cost of living compared to the salaries of the working class.
Anairofdeath 3 years ago
The Iraq could have been a double bluff... think of Yukoslavia (sp), when the leader holding their country together died the country went into civil war and NATO had to come rescue Kosovo.. maybe they just wanted to take control of Iraq before Saddam died and the country was plunged into chaos anyway?
dudefromskye 3 years ago
The last time I had any sense of England being great was when the Falkland Islands were taken back from an invasion of what is - rightly or wrongly - our territory.
Many may argue that the world is a different and more dangerous place now. But that is as much a fault of the West as anyones !
If the Middle Eastern countries started dorpping bombs on my country from on high, killing my family, I`d want revenge !
morgandrim 3 years ago
Someone said that they`d still like TB ( sorry !) as PM if it weren`t for the iraq war. I agree. He went to war - apparently on the assumption that Iraq was developing WMD`s. Well we - the West - have WMD`s AND NO ONE KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN THE IRAQIS ! Oh - except perhaps the people of Nagasaki and Hiroshima !
morgandrim 3 years ago
How would the people of Iraq know better then anyone else, it's not like we used ours on them...
Saberhagen19243 3 years ago
Hi Saberhgen19243, well an old soldier once said to me "A Hand Grinade is as good as a H Bomb, if it drops on your head."
Lets not forget that the US is the one and only nation to ever have used nuclear weapons against another nation.
morgandrim 3 years ago
As an Irish man I feel deeply indebted to Blair for the time and effort he put into Northern Ireland for the good of both our countries. He may have got it wrong with Iraq but he appears to have made that decision with his conscience and it'll probably be a decision that haunts him. Saying that, I don't thing Cameron or his numerous predecessors would have made any different or better choices given their initially unwaivering support for the war.
lovelytackles 3 years ago 2
If it was not for the war in iraq, i would have wanted him to stay in office. The PM we have now is a joke!!! And what other option do we have?.... david cameron!!!! God help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jasyman 3 years ago 2
I think blair did a great job compared to others before him and indeed after. as for the war on terror its the twisted world of extreme religion which has caused the problems
rjb2008 3 years ago
the Greatest PMs of the 20th century didn't get such a good goodbye as he did. The three greatest are Sir Winston Churchill, Margret Thatcher and David Lloyd George. And do you notice on the faith and state question with advise to his successor Gordon Brown actually starts to stand up
Ohyewildthong 3 years ago
He's just leaning forward, hes not going to stand up.
sandercamillo 3 years ago
Blair and his disgusting wife should be hunted down and burnt at the Stake for what they have done to Britain. His legacy ? An Illegal war in Iraq, The European Human Rights Charter for Terrorists and Criminals everywhere, Selling out the people of Ulster, The highest percentage of earning being paid in taxes, 6 Million people not working and living on a whole host of different benefits, Immigration through the roof. The man is a corrupt liar and history will not remember him fondly.
mattdavies1971 3 years ago
what have you done for Britain?
sbnewman 3 years ago
Nothing special-I go to work eveyday and pay an unbelievable proportion of what I earn in tax to pay for the "victims" of society that we should all feel so sorry for because they either can't be bothered to get out of their bed in the morning or because of new labours ridiculous benefit culture it isn't worth their while. I deserve to have more of a say as to how MY money is spent rather than some benefit jockey.
mattdavies1971 3 years ago
hey, that's good enough for me.
sbnewman 3 years ago
O dear, he's killed thousands of people and he recieves a standing ovation what's this world coming to.
oldscool10 3 years ago
Coming to its senses, slowly. Blair did NOT kill thousands of people. Insurgents did. Get that in your thick head. Sorry to be so rude - but I've had enough of people who called OUR leaders murderers, while happily, it seems, condoning real murderers.
BlairSupporter 3 years ago
Ah well - he's already missed. Especially now that they've finally realised what we have running this country. Pity jis party didn't listen to such as me (in all modesty) before they plunged the knife in.
BlairSupporter 3 years ago
O BYE BLAIRE U WONT B MISSED
toppackage 3 years ago
Only know do people realize what a good Primeminister this man really was. If only people had realized this last year.
5COT5MAN 3 years ago
When i saw this on BBC parliament, the last sound was that guy blowing his nose. I couldn't stop laughing!
nintendolad 3 years ago
:O ian paisley was there!!!!!!!!!!!! why would u let a terrorist speek int he house of commons!?!?! u might as well of have gerry adams there to and the head of the BNP ffs
Catholicism777 3 years ago
OK, we will if they ever get elected because that is how it works in a democracy
hendabomb 3 years ago
I was being sarcastic saying that ian paisley shouldnt have been allowed there, hes an northern irish hitler,e.g. he said that all Irish Republicans should be liquidated, seems just like a Hitler quote to me
Catholicism777 3 years ago
Superb PM who is sorely missed. One of the true greats.
oblomov123 3 years ago 9
too true
5COT5MAN 3 years ago
NOW, people are realising! You should all have joined me in my campaign to "Keep Tony Blair For PM". Then we may have stopped the seemingly inevitable decline of Labour. Having said that, I've never been a Labour supporter. I would be if Tony Blair were still there. But sometimes a great leader, as was ... I mean ... IS Blair stands out as deserving of cross-party supporter. Thus Cameron's tribute. Shame we seldom hear his words of wisdom, humour, courtesy and lightness of touch. A larger stage!
BlairSupporter 3 years ago
I do hope Tiny Blur becomes President of The EU - we could I believe count on him doing as much damage to The EU with his lies, arrogant, incompetent hubris and economic illiteracy as he did to Britain whilst in Kontrol.
That might be one way of repatriating our Democracy, re-establishing independence and reinstating our liberty, sovereignty, Justice, BORDERS, sovereignty and self determination and at the same time helping the peoples of Europe to deconstruct the Evils of the EU Global greed
Greg260146 3 years ago
Greg260146 - Rubbish. You write absolute rubbish.
BlairSupporter 3 years ago 3
BlairSupporter I understand your annoyance when confronted with facts that refute your fantasy.
The Blair/Brown decade have proved catastrophic on every count having started with a sound economy in a rising market they squandered every advantage and betrayed the peoples of these United Kingdoms such that now 80% of our laws are imposed at Westminster by the corrupt profligate and obscene EU. The health service is in ruins with devolved irresponsibility and we are over run with 8,500 QUANGOs
Greg260146 3 years ago
Your arguments are rubbish because they conflate common and wrong-headed assumptions on Blair with your prejudices against Europe.Not enough space here to pursue these arguments, but following the 1957 Treaty of Rome ALL British PMs have agreed on our place in Europe. As for the UK, we have been the example for the EU & the rest of the world over the last 10 years. And they ALL know it. Unraveling now, true, but to imply that THIS government IN THE EU is the Unique Villain is simply rubbish.
BlairSupporter 3 years ago
What about our Irish friend Bertie.
zogg18 3 years ago
History will see this dishonest and corrupt man's 10 years in office as the most shamefull in British history. A liar whose dishonesty led to the loss of 100s of 1,000s of innocent lives. An excrescence on the footprint of history. Brown will merely be shown as an economic illiterate without style, charisma, competence or ability a pathetic little man in a job too big for him he stands no chance of EVER winning an election, gained power sheltering from view Hopeless, Hapless & social inadequate
Greg260146 3 years ago
For every good thing Sir Winston Churchill did to preserve the identity of our people and our nation, these spineless do-gooders have destroyed it.
Giving away all that we have achieved.. all of our herritage, our power and our tradition to the Americans, and Islam.
As these old fools sit here laughing and joking, there are Britsh servicemen fighting and dieing in a war that was not our own, while our teachers educate their sons / daughters in festivals and religions that are not our own.
bluepheonex1989 3 years ago
yes tony ....low scullduggery indeed ,you sold our lads lives to the american persuit of oil
SHAME ON YOU !
snaed27 3 years ago
He was a good man
wasomjh 3 years ago 6
Thank you for uploading this video, I am a fan of Mr Blair and in 10 or 20 years time I think we'll look back on his time in number 10 and he'll be right up their with the best of them. A great PM.
AddiUni 3 years ago 4
rofl
RA1140 3 years ago
lol your comment made me laugh, good PM he was, however being looked at as one of the best? I'm doubtful
keanerock888 3 years ago
tell me what was good about him? Giving control of the country to the EU, was that good? Putting up millions of cameras invading our privacy was that good?
Sims2003 3 years ago
Maurice, have you heard of a little thing called the Second World War? Belittle Churchill's role in that if you want, but it'll make you look completely idiotic.
simonb117 3 years ago
blair was a very claver PM, he done alot for this country but just had made wrong decsion to go on war with iraq , but i think he was a good leader for britian.
hksaqib 3 years ago 8
he's a very fine man and he has done a lot of good for britain from 1997 - 2007. i've had a good education, good health services and i've felt relatively safe
thecultofjonnybighed 3 years ago 6
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wow.. total rubbish of course
RA1140 3 years ago
We count Churchill as the best Briton and the best PM - he had his problems as did Thatcher. And some far worse than Blairs. Just think about that before you join the Youtube Negativity Mafia!
LukeAshton 3 years ago 3
You have to look at his whole ten years as Prime Minister. I would suggest he did more good than bad. Don't clapping in the House is banned and there has never before been a standing ovation. Two things done here along with genuine approving words from well respected MPs. I'd challenge anyone to be a leader of 13 years and PM of 10 years and get it right everytime!
LukeAshton 3 years ago 6
Cameron grovelling to Blair - how sickening
worcesterwombat 3 years ago
Tony Blair was a great leader and i think he is the best PM we have ever seen !!!
dannygproductions 3 years ago
you mad?
ever heard of Mr. churchill?
jmewhit 3 years ago
He was not that great ?!
dannygproductions 3 years ago
yes I have heard of Churchill a buffoon a traitor to his own party and a drunkard who the British people rejected in a landslide in 1945
Mauricebear 3 years ago
i fine man.
jmewhit 3 years ago
a fine man.
jmewhit 3 years ago 3
Richard Younger-Ross what a fucking stupid question, mind he is a Lib Dem so being a tosser is what he's good at!
GeeGee3374 3 years ago 7
Haha... Lib Dems have stupid policys and are a silly party, My Father was a politician and had many debates with Lib Dem's, They will never ever win an election.
Rossheaton 3 years ago
Haha... Lib Dems have stupid policys and are a silly party, My Father was a politician and had many debates with Lib Dem's, They will never ever win an election.
Rossheaton 3 years ago
Bring Blair back, hes better then Brown
cos9036 3 years ago 7
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after he's gotten us in such a big pile of shit in iraq. the man claimed to 'hear the voice of god', he was skilled, yeah, but really...
canadianjames01 3 years ago
nananana well good bye nananana well good bye
and nexted will be gordan brown cant wait just hope he doent become the EU presednt well he can but as long as britian leaves europle
samdung91 3 years ago
why did you view him then ?
kevj247 3 years ago 2
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I hate Blair.....Think that's simple enough.
lordinovau 3 years ago
its well documented that sadam hussian killed alot more,what was blair meant to do ? wait for the next pm with balls to help the world get rid of that mudering bastard ? im sure if you where an iraqi and a menber of your family was murdered or beaten or tortued,i think you may of joined the millions of other iraqies in a cry for help to he outside world !!
kevj247 3 years ago 6
there are plenty of dictators that have killed a lot more people than saddam hussain, he just was unfourtunate to be sitting on top of a big oceon of oil lol. also, they only picked on the bully they could beat.
canadianjames01 3 years ago
Margaret Beckett (Former Foreign Secretary) was in tears as Blair walked out. Although I disliked him towards the end, I think he will go down as one of the greatest PM's this country has ever had. Not as great as Thatcher, but pretty close. Good Luck Mr Blair!
LairdKincavle 3 years ago 4
Are you kidding? This man devasted Hundreds of thousands of lives by supporting the Iraq war. He has undermined civil liberties to the point of no return and HAS BOUND SUCESSIVE PARLIAMENTS to rule by the EU
MaNarchicDRAKE 3 years ago
Are you mad...? Thatcher ruined peoples lives in northern areas, she shut down steel works and mines! My family lived in poverty because of her!
Rossheaton 3 years ago
She transformed this country from a backward manufacturing based country to a quaternary industrial nation. She inspired the people, made people free from government interference. She stood up to foreign nations and she believed Britain still had it. Great Woman.
LairdKincavle 3 years ago
She transformed the South of the country, us up North where sent down the shitter by her.
keanerock888 3 years ago
I don't like Blair, but he was a gifted speaker with an excellent sense of humour.
1:45 - 1:57 a prime example
britishleylandcrap 3 years ago
he was a tory in deskise
tradingplaces400 3 years ago
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Thankfully Sharia Law will soon dominate British Whites.
Maybe not 5 or 10 years down the line, but definitely within a few decades.
If you look at the birth rates of us Asian Muslims and then the black people in Britain, it is simply huge.
I know a black muslim brother who has 9 kids.
Then if you look at the fact that the white population gets smaller every year due to low birth rates and then look at the fact that just one in five immigrants to britain are now white, you have it.
bigscolari 3 years ago
Be quiet, a neighbour of mine, white, has 20 kids. You're not scaring anyone
dudefromskye 3 years ago
(1) what as your comments got to do with this video?
(2)Are you a brit when it suits you?
(3)Are we paying for those nine kids or as your bro as you put it got a job
(4))The Sharia law will never be passed through so stop talking bollocks theres a good lad
owler75 3 years ago
And what basis do you argue this upon? Or is it just to flare the flames of hatred? Or is this your way of preaching Islam? There is also something called is wisdom.
MadinahStudent 3 years ago
they all look so bored in the background behind tony ^^ Gordon especially doesnt look very happy or amused at all!!
ellzybub 3 years ago
"I think I'm really not bothered about that one....", absolute quality!
mofi500 3 years ago
As a non-socialist i have to accept the fact that Tony was one of the Best prime ministers this country ever had.
jlrnb 4 years ago
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B-LIAR, hes a fuckin war criminal may he hang for the 1 million dead in Iraq... may you and your family ROT in HELL BLAIR
fleetliner71v 4 years ago
its well documented that sadam hussian killed alot more,what was blair meant to do ? wait for the next pm with balls to help the world get rid of that mudering bastard ? im sure if you where an iraqi and a menber of your family was murdered or beaten or tortued,i think you may of joined the millions of other iraqies in a cry for help to he outside world !!
think hard about your comments
kevj247 4 years ago 4
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He was the worst thing to happen to this country and if you disagree with that, then you're just one of the silly do gooders that's helped to bring this country down. Because it is already down, this isn't the same place anymore and I want to leave this shit-hole as soon as I can.
vampinre1 4 years ago
no gordan brown is
tradingplaces400 3 years ago
probably one of the pms ever
kevj247 4 years ago
One of the worst PMs ever.
Edgey1988 4 years ago
We had PMs before Thatcher, too, you know.
ermineermine 4 years ago
fuglyno1 - no-one who gets to be PM is 'all stupid' - well not enough to screw up on all fronts, but aren't all those local benefits you've seen more to do with your local government and achieved in spite of central control, not because of it?
cheefelder 4 years ago
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Thank fuck that this religious nutter has finally fucked off and it looks certain the tories are going to be back in government next time.
Edgey1988 4 years ago
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Sod off tosser. Bring Back Margret.
Fraiserd 4 years ago
One of this countries greatest ever Prime Ministers.
Scrufflemut 4 years ago 7
too right - we are all better off now
ElleryHanley 4 years ago
I am much more towards the conservatives but Tony Blair was a good PM.
andipandy123 4 years ago 4
No wonder you think so highly of him then - he was one of the most right wing PM's of the last century. He has irreversibly damaged this country in a way that only Thatcher has managed to equal before him. She was in Reagan's pocket as Blair has been in Bush's. See any similarity? Why yes - just a minute - they were both ranting right-wing republicans with no more grasp of international politics than the average 10 year old!
cheefelder 4 years ago 2
but he did alot for ordinary people. i know that my town is a far better place now than it was before new labour, particularly the local schools. theres tons of new facilities where im from, it continues to be regenerated and there is gradual improvements year on year. doesn't mean the people are getting any less likely to get drunk, cause trouble and complain, but its a better place to live. so he wasn't all bad.
fuglyno1 4 years ago
But the Q&A's were always entertaining.
Its great that you Brits can have a public debate without ripping each other apart.
Crazydog7 4 years ago
Quite refreshing to see joviality and wit with no less passion, isn't it.
A refreshing diversion from 'debates' involving Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter--or even the catfights/gangsta wars between supporters of competing candidates of the Donkey Party--on the other side of the pond.
Cheers.
ermineermine 4 years ago
The guy who asked the faith question was destroyed! Why would anyone bother asking that?
qscdew123 4 years ago 3
yeah they should have just kept it polite as it was his last day.
mbb05jb 4 years ago
That WAS polite! Very. How many of these have you seen? This was exceptionally civilised - mainly becasue they all knew they were going to miss him.
And they do.
The first time ANY PM has had a standing ovation from the whole House.
The longest serving MP said, and he should know - "He is one of the outstanding prime ministers of my political lifetime and withou doubt the most politically effective PM this party has ever had".
So true. And they should never forget that.
BlairSupporter 4 years ago 6
Faith question - the Lib Dem asked partly because he suspected that Brown, as a Scot and scared of Islam & multiculturalism is keen on disestablishing the Church of England. That's why Brown looked worried. Anyway Blair always destroyed all of them! But gently. CLASS.
Brown is no match. He gets riled too easily.
Some of us miss Blair dreadfully. A brilliant prime minister. But even he couldn't take any more knives in the back from Brown & The Lesser Beings. (Good name for a band, that!)
BlairSupporter 4 years ago
Top guy!
killerjatt 4 years ago
In about ten years everyone will be saying how amazing he was... I liked him!!! God help us if Cameron gets in - no so much HIM but the Tory faith-fools!
mellowNdark 4 years ago
And even God will not be able to help us if Clegg, Galloway or Griffin, or anyone from Old Labour, gets in.
ermineermine 4 years ago
i doubt the tone will be like this when Bush leaves office here in America, though, a lot of here actually might and will be happy becuase he is leaving
thepumpenator 4 years ago
That is more an indictment of the attitude of Democratic Members of Congress than it is of the one Republican whose policies and decisions they disagree with.
ermineermine 4 years ago
true, though i'm republican myself, having just registered, i'm really hoping that the next GOP president can fix teh party up
thepumpenator 4 years ago
Farewell until I come back as President of the EU that is.
TheSpaceCadet89 4 years ago
one incompetent arsehole taking over from another,i wouldnt piss on them if they were on fire
derick776 4 years ago
Blair has fucked Britain right up. I hope he gets a rare form of cancer that has no treatment and rots slowly and painfully in one of his dirty understaffed NHS hospitals being treated by sub-standard doctors that are the product of his dumbed down failing education system. The cunt.
gemwocoj 4 years ago
It is the west and our way of life which these people do not agree with but we will not change and that is why i respect one of the greatest politicians to have graced the office of Prime Minister.
Anairofdeath 4 years ago
No matter what opinion anyone may hold Tony Blair did alot for this country, He was always pushing forward britains role as a major world power.I did not agree with Iraq but we are there. People need to realise that the world is changing faster than in any other period in time and us getting involved in iraq would not have saved us from terrorism.
Anairofdeath 4 years ago
Nor did it solve the problem. They might aswell have just burned money, soldiers and armed forces.
ManlySlut 4 years ago
MANLYSLUT:
> Nor did it solve the problem.
Nor did 'staying away' save Spain, France and Germany from terrorist bombings and even more plots at home.
ermineermine 4 years ago
...early job interview for JP Morgan. ..How sickening it was to see Cameron exhort the Opposition to stand. Teflon Tony to the end.....
haldenver 4 years ago
I like it when MPs take a moment to honour one another. We need to do it more than just retirements.
Still not a Blair fan though :)
theboywiththebucket 4 years ago 3
Indeed. Acknowledgement of
1 dedication to public service
and
2 actual achievement
need not be sacrificed just because there is also disagreement in policy.
The
|| DEMONISATION
which is so prevalent these days in domestic politics and international diplomacy feeds the feral instincts but gets in the way of solutions.
Long live the system where even the party across the aisle is referred to as "Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition".
ermineermine 4 years ago
I agree 100% with the post below; Tony Blair was the best thing that ever happened to this country. When he left, there was lot of vitriol and complete lack of persepctive, but now people are beginning to see how much good he did. A truly principled person and a top notch leader.
JoskJosh 4 years ago
BOLLOCKS, this country was recovering long before Blair arrived, it was only after he was elected that we realised it. + the actions of Blair (Iraq war) have increased terrorism, look at 7/7 and the Madrid bombings.
Zoli0 4 years ago
History will judge that his entire tenure as leader of Britain embodied something og a modern golden age. Whatever the why's and wherefors, economically, culturally and globally our influence reached a high-water mark. Iraq was his Suez, but he did far more good than bad. If only his critics could grasp the concept of balanced opinion.
bodhid 4 years ago 2
I didn't mind Blair as PM but since Brown became PM I have gone from a Liberal minded to a Conservative minded person. Shame really.
Wilf1992 4 years ago
god bless tony blair.
One of the best PMs of british history. Look what he did for england domestically.
lawyer4817 4 years ago
I mean if you rule out Iraq and the lies you could you put him in the top 5.
(I blame Bush for those two)
ManlySlut 4 years ago
tick tok the clock is ticking lol by by commy barsterds your time is almost up, and thank fuck for that you red commy fuckers.
easytoryboy 4 years ago
If New Labour were actually left-wing (even just reasonably left, not necessarily communist) then things would be much better. I really can't see how you can class New Labour as "commy". They've privatised faster than the Major govt, they've built less social housing than the Major govt, they've continued the disastrous PFI intiative. What a shambles. In the event of a hung parliament, a Lab-Tory alliance would be the most likely scenario, on the grounds of present policy differences.
left888 4 years ago
LEFT888:
> If New Labour were actually left-wing
> then things would be much better.
You mean like they were as Old Labour--
1 until Callaghan when the government had ideals but the economy went to the dogs?
2 until Kinnock when the party had ideals but no voter in his right mind wanted them to actually govern?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
You mean back when major industries were publicly-owned--
1 public sector workers secure in their jobs, regardless of whether they actually worked or not, regardless of the quality of service delivered?
2 every industry unable to produce enough profit to support itself, instead being a moneypit for public funds supplied by an ever-dwindling tax base?
3 #1 and #2 above of little consequence because we could always console ourselves by thinking 'we were all co-owners'?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
You mean back when for everyone except those who already had assets,the only way to have a home was to have government provide it--
1 uniform rewards for everyone, from the lazy to the hardworking, thus providing no incentive for either to work, leaving a smaller pie to divide?
2 less incentive to work resulting in less productivity thus less taxes, but with greater demand for public funds to provide for everyone?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
You mean the public-private partnerships which themselves are a compromise to assuage the egos of those
1 viscerally and implacably opposed to private sector activity, and
2 viscerally and remorselessly in denial in the face of all the empirical failures of fanatical socialism?
Ah, those were the days. We would all give up all our present assets and responsibilities, for the opportunity
|| to own much less
|| in exchange for
|| being responsible for nearly nothing as well.
ermineermine 4 years ago
Nationalisation can be a useful economic management technique, for example if NL would nationalise Northern Rock then most economists would agree with that too. But what's this thing about private being better than public? Look at the railways: even the bourgoisee think that the govt runs railways better: that's why they allowed the railways, and lots of industry, come to think of it, during the World Wars, to be temporarily nationalised.
left888 4 years ago
Look at Network Rail having to have more and more stuff being brought back in house. And look at the hospitals' (run by appointed directors)MRSA and stuff due to subcontracting of cleaning staff. The main trouble with nationalisation is that the govt just takes the profits and doesn't reinvest, but that's the fault of the govt involved, not the fault of the process.
left888 4 years ago
Alternative Economic Strategy could have worked wonders. And as it happens, the economy would have improved anyhow, as the North Sea oil came in. That was such a huge boost for balance of payments. That money could have done so much, but the Thatcher govt squandered it on tax cuts for the rich, and Blair/Brown squander it on stupid wars.
left888 4 years ago
And speaking of balance of payments, they're way down and the Treasury's annual borrowing is getting onto £40bn a year. Whereas when Callaghan borrowed £2bn (and paid it back by 79), there was a huge outcry. There's been great economic times recently, on the back of cheap Oriental imports. And now its coming to an end and things don't look so good, do they?
left888 4 years ago
So now we've got a hugely indebted state with precious few assets to sell, and the IMF are very concerned. Sounds like a basket case of an economy. Our chief "industry", moving money around, will fall apart when the big crunch happens. And then New Labour will look very silly, and the Tories will make a stupid diagnosis that they've been too socialist, get power like in 79 and slash what NL has done, plus some more. Now that's what I call progress - Not! Watch, and see what happens.
left888 4 years ago
left888, if New Labour were more left-wing, people like me would not have voted for the party and they wouldn't have been in power for 10+ years.
Chaffinch4 4 years ago
They didn't need to do got to Toryland to attract your sort of voters. They got a landslide in 1997: they could have been social democratic and still got a quite reasonable majority. Then they wouldn't have their current problem of majority shrinking because their traditional voters have finally had enough.
left888 4 years ago
[DATA FOR YOURGASM]
1. The last general election was in 05 May 2005.
2. The next general election need not be called until 03 June 2010.
3. Mr Blair stepped aside 27 June 2007.
The above facts mean that even those of us who find (Old) Labour, even Mr Bush, distasteful are compelled to acknowledge the stubborn reality that Mr Blair had nearly three full years left to serve out his third (maximum-of-)five-year term with a secure majority.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
Now if you could only be man enough to acknowledge reality--enough to have it reflected in your arguments.
(TRANSLATED: Have the courage to modify your pet theory accordingly.)
ermineermine 4 years ago
Modify the pet theory? First of all I clearly highlight the facts of what constituted to Blair's downfall. Too much power resulted in too much fuckups & to top it off kissing up to Bush which added more weight to him. Its pretty clear what I stated. Blair was on the lowest of lows in polls at 26%.
yourgasm 4 years ago
Scroll up and read as many times until you get it:
1 Prime Ministers do not lose office due to opinion polls--they do according to results in general elections and by-elections.
2 UK PM's term of office is for up to five years at a time.
3 Mr Blair won every general election since 1997, and was 2yrs 2mos into his third term--he had 2yrs and 10mos left, with a secure majority.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
4 Mr Blair stepped aside voluntarily--again,
(i) with a solid majority in the House of Commons
(ii) in a period of no more than a few weeks, with no other political party gaining more than a few digits higher than the 'lowest 26%' at best
(iii) for the rest of the period between 1997 and JUN2007 with no other political party gaining more than Mr Blair's lowest nor more than his highest 'poll ratings'
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
5 Mr Blair had more than enough power at the point to name his successor--obviously from the same political party.
6 Neither the designated successor nor Messrs Cameron, Campbell/Cable, Griffin and Galloway has ever polled higher.
QUESTION: Which part of 1 to 6 above fails to register in your brain?
ermineermine 4 years ago
REPEAT:
Now if you could only be MAN ENOUGH to acknowledge reality--enough to have it reflected in your arguments.
(TRANSLATED: Have the courage --THE BALLS-- to modify your pet theory accordingly.
ermineermine 4 years ago
REPEAT QUOTE (3rd time):
REPEAT QUOTE:
"I, Sir, when I find I had been mistaken, promptly change my mind.
"You, Sir, what do you do?"
ermineermine 4 years ago
PMs do lose office due to the mood of the ppl. The GE that Blair lost him a shitload of seats. Had he of won the same. Too bad it doesn't register in your brain there. Know that his popularity was declining greatly due to the errors he had made and the mood of the public wanted a change. Therefore he stood down b/c he knew it. When Brown stepped in labor's popularity went back up but is now declining once again.
yourgasm 4 years ago
I
> PMs do lose office due to the mood of the ppl.
1 WHEN expressed through the BALLOT BOX--didn't happen in Mr Blair's case
2 WHEN it is to the extent that a majority is lost in the House of Commons--didn't happen in Mr Blair's case
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
II
> The GE that Blair lost him a shitload of seats.
Wrong. Seats were lost, with a majority retained--ergo, the general election was not lost.
Unless you play with words and say
[A] "Labour lost, but all the other parties lost even more."
[B] "The Opposition won, but Labour won even more."
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
QUESTION I:
Which of the above facts do you feel I should RE-register in my brain?
QUESTION II:
Which of the above facts NEVER registered in your brain to begin with?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
III
Which GENERAL ELECTION or BY-ELECTION are you referring to when you assert 'The people wanted a change'?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
IV
> When Brown stepped in labor's popularity went back up
So if OPINION POLLS indicating reduced support 'means the people have expressed their will that they want a change--it is reason for the Prime Minister to step down', ...
> but is now declining once again.
QUESTION III:
Should Gordon Brown now step down now?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
V
Consistent with your reasoning: during the times when OPINION POLLS conducted by newspapers, advertising agencies and polling agencies indicated more support for the Conservatives than for Labour ...
QUESTION IV:
Did that 'mean that the people have expressed their will that they want a change--it serves as grounds to install David Cameron as Prime Minister'?
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
VI
If OPINION POLLS conducted by newspapers, advertising agencies and polling agencies are 'the will of the people', ...
QUESTION V:
What are general elections and by-elections for?
Should elections be for selecting MPs only, and opinion polls be for the selection of the Prime Minister?
Wouldn't that make the winner a President, rather than a Prime Minister? Nay, wouldn't that make him more of an entertainment figure--a star--than an elected government official?
ermineermine 4 years ago
REPEAT QUOTE (4th time):
"I, Sir, when I find I had been mistaken, promptly change my mind.
"You, Sir, what do you do?"
Evidently, you choose to stubbornly stand your ground like a donkey. (Also known as 'an ___'. )
ermineermine 4 years ago
MORE QUESTIONS: Should you call the opinion poll "The X-Factor" because it is to choose the British Prime Minister and because "X" is "10" for "10 Downing Street"? Should you let Simon Cowell produce it? Should Randy Jackson and Paula Abdul be invited, too? Or should it be just Louis Walsh, Sharon Osbourne and Dannii Minogue? Or should it just be Simon Cowell and Sharon Osbourne because Dannii Minogue is Australian and Louis Walsh is Irish? LOL
llamasjm 4 years ago
So it is clear that Blair's mistakes cost him and this was 1 of the reasons for his closeness with Bush. Too bad it doesn't register in your brain there.
yourgasm 4 years ago
Labor suffered a massive swing. He knew his time was up after going siding with Bush. And to also answer the whole kissing up to Bush. When former close buddies Koizumi,Berlusconi,Aznar,Aznar have all fallen as a result of their action. Violating international law resulted in a backfire of public approval
yourgasm 4 years ago
There you go again--repeating the rise of fall in OPINION POLLS, without reconciling it with any of the facts dispelling your pet theory.
You are as steadfast as a donkey--with as much capacity to reason.
Which makes you ill-qualified to talk about 'brains'.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
Your intellectual capacities are
1 unable to distinguish between opinion polls and elections,
2 unable to distinguish between pet theories which fit some details but fail in the face of other co-existing facts.
No wonder you are being ridiculed.
DARE ANSWER THE QUESTION:
When you find you had been mistaken, what do you do?
ermineermine 4 years ago
(For a 28yo, you sure have the mentality of a 2yo.)
ermineermine 4 years ago
Good bye Prime-Minister Blair, you served us well
LDeezy223 4 years ago
If Blair hadn't kissed up to Bush he could still be PM
yourgasm 4 years ago
Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schröder did the exact opposite of 'kissing up to Bush'--where are they now?
Try another theory.
ermineermine 4 years ago
Jacques Chirac was getting old & his term expired. Gerhard wanted to step down. Bad comparison to Blair. Blair was a good leader for UK especially on the economic side of things even though he wasn't that original. After all he ripped off Paul Keating
yourgasm 4 years ago
Wrong.
1
Chirac would have wanted to stay or would have wanted his annointed succeed him--the electorate said otherwise. So much for 'don't kiss up to Bush, and be assured of another term in office'.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
2
Schröder, too, wanted to stay--he battled with Merkel for him to stay in office despite his party losing to the latter's (albeit by a tiny margin), either through an alliance with other parties or through a grand alliance dominated by his own. Again, so much for 'don't kiss up to Bush, and be assured of another term in office'.
Try yet again.
ermineermine 4 years ago
(All this apart from the equally-stubborn facts:
1 Blair had a deal with Brown to step down (notwithstanding any lingering emotional attachments to Number 10)
2 even Brown the replacement is not confident enough to win any general election called soon; nor is Cameron, nor are the anti-war LibDems, much less the rabid and visceral anti-American Galloway.)
I hope you do better with your replacement-theory.
ermineermine 4 years ago
Schröder- made a number of gaffes and blunders & mistakes. E.g. Dick sucking off Putin and his highly stupid remarks and the amount of idiots in his cabinet. As for Blair,he did something that was heavily opposed by the British ppl & that was kiss up to Bush which angered many Brits. Therefore bringing his approval rating down & down and yes the scandals too.
yourgasm 4 years ago
True about Schröder's myriad of faults. Which brought him electoral defeat.
Which thus disproves the 'magical electoral powers' of 'refusing to kiss up to Bush'.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
RHETORICAL QUESTION:
How many general elections and by-elections have there been since MRC2003?
That is how many times the British electorate--notwithstanding opinion polls, internet fora and street marches--have delivered their verdict on the then-PM and his decisions.
. . .
ermineermine 4 years ago
(This apart from the fact that 'approval ratings' rise and fall as frequently as polls are taken.
(And that elected leaders are beholden only to those who actually vote--regardless of how many say what to pollsters, how many post what how many times on blogs and message boards, and how many have the time to march.)
ermineermine 4 years ago