@nonnahs918 Both the Bible and the Qur'an teach violence and hatred. The Old Testament of the Bible was written to give excuses for slavery, beatings, stonings, killings and murders. The Jesus story was created by the Council of Nicea and Jesus was declared a god by the Emperor Constantine for polical reasons. The Qur'an was writted by Muhammad to justify wars, murders and killings to unite the Arab tribes. These are all facts of history.
ummmm... lolwut. have you read the bible or the quran. try the book of leviticus and chapter 9 of the quran and then tell me they preach peace. you are deluding yourself if you believe that. i am not saying that all christians/jews/muslims are following the hatred preached in their texts, some of them are peace loving. but the texts DO preach hatred aswell as all the love and peace stuff. it's the great hypocrisy of religion. preaching both love and hate in the same breath.
i belive in god but what i do not belive about god is that he hates gay people or that he wants us to repent because he loves us and all of who we are.
@Acheron26firefly Then obviously you are one of the few people who truly believe in a God of love and you probably strive to follow that belief as an example for your own life. Your friends probably have a lot of respect for you ....... I do too!
What 'loving' deity, god, or creator of us mankind DEMAND the killing (dogmas by both Christianity and Islam) to gays?
Here's another to think about, WHY do gays believe in god? The bible can't be any clearer and even for women, what 'loving' god would demand KILLING if the woman is not a virgin on her wedding night?
Why can't people stop and THINK RATIONALLY that the whole "RELIGION" concept is full of HATE and ridiculous dogmas that is hurting "US".
@Nostalgicmusicvideos Because, unfortunately, most people are not rational. The greatest selling pharmaceutical drugs in the world are "anti-psychotic" drugs. Psychosis means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality". So it is not surprising that so many people base their lives on fairy tales like religion.
All organized religions were created by man as a tool to control other men. The member management tools of the "us" and "them", of the "choosen believers" and the "wicked sinful non-believer infidel" is used by organized religions all the time to define "real christians" and "real muslims" and generate hate of those are not of the choosen.
Right! Agreed, but there are still decent, good-hearted non hypocritical Christians who teach love acceptance and tolerance instead of going against their religion and preaching hate. Still, I'm against organized religion in general.
thank you! i am a christian and it says in the bible that when you hate you have commited murder in your heart..... we are suppose to encourage them to get saved not beat them and all that other stuff....
Actually that's false. Christians whom believe in the bible in which they believe is the word of god, take everything in the fairy book LITERALLY believing "gays" are abominable and should be stoned to death like its written.
Oddly though, how many Christians can you find that listens and abides by what 'jesus' said to do?
We all could respect for all kinds of people if it wasn't for "RELIGION"!
these are the shit christian, shit , Hell for the christian and islam.. hell for everyone bad in this life. JESUS loves everyone even he loved the hoosexual people h never said kill the homo,he loved them... Quran is the whol big shit it says to kill homo. this relegion does´nt respect humen rights.
Societies with unequal conditions between women & men, lifestyle and sexual preferences (LGBT or straight), black & white, foreigners/natives & residents, unbeliever & religious... will not give people rights & justice...
anything that is usual for us in our days - is a result of peoples strikes and fights for their interests & we have to retain & defend it all day again...
Let's stand up and fight for equal social rights for everybody - EVERYWHERE!
Funny that you should post a clip with Ted Haggard. He was later found out to have been sleeping with a male escort for years and buying crystal meth from him. He still denies being gay (or bisexual) to this day. He claims it was "Satan" corrupting his mind. Fuckin retard!
Ted Haggard is a disgusting hypocrite, who pimped religion for a dollar and used hate and bigotry towards Gays to win fame and fortune from the incredibly stupid people who packed his church and loved to listen to his lies. I totally agree with you. Ted Haggard is a disgusting retard!
Yeah I know. It disgusted me to see him recently on Oprah Winfrey where he just lied and denied every accusation, it was either the devil working his magic (in this case Ted Haggard is synonymous for Satan) or other people have made false claims. All in all, he ought to be ashamed of himself and there are well too many greasy haired, white-suited frauds like him who claim to be the hotline with some sky god and prey on gullible people and get every last penny from them! :/
Eros i m a gay to! i study both of the religions. I ll speak about Christianity. New Testament doesn t say anythnig against homosexuality. Once only py St. Paul attached with men who goes with women! God loves us! you and me! we don't have to deny him because of some individuaals that misunderstud him.
antpagag - just because someone does not believe in the god of christianity or islam ... or just because someone criticizes christianity and/or islam for the extreme hypocrisy, bigotry and violent behavior of the largest organizations in either/both religions and many of their members .... does not mean that they do not believe in god. A Hindu or Buddhist or Pagan do not deny god, because they do not believe in the christian or muslim god. The God of Love that I worship is not a god of sin.
thanks for answering Eros. i totally agree with you. I m gay and the same time Christian. I believe to the God of Love us you do but that God i know by experience is Christ. Sorry for sound so "Gosh, onother Christian". I m trying to say that we must not confuse bad Christians with Christ and say that Christians or Buddhist believes in a God of sin.
i started to like your way of thinking. i felt nice to write to you again! enjoy your summer.
The Christianity god don't love gays, STOP trying to sugar coat for your imaginary 'daddy'.
Old Testament doesn't say anything about you having to "PAY" 10% of what you make to god, New Testament does, do you see where I'm getting at? Besides, why on earth would 'god' need your hard earned money for?
We all could love one another, it's the RELIGION that's stopping us.
EROS i agree with you, i see nothing but nature all around me, not this ONE god <.< who in fact isnt much of a god who let everyone down by killing and murdering everyone around the world..Loving god? I think Not...
Bible is all writen by MEN not by this so called one god <.< do you have proof too back it up beside the so called good book?
before there was a bible there was Pagans and there knowledge and teachings of the most wises, then christiaity came can took all the holidays from all religions and made it there own lmao..you christians need too learn your history.
christians=hate,murder=killing, jeez...didnt the bible say shall not kill? but yet moses and all killed LOL..you idiots
The Bible said you shall not steal or play.. you shall not control a others in there life... god said i am the god iam the one who judage you and iam the one who put you in the hell or haven
AllahIsMyLight - from your comments, I think your beliefs and intentions are good, but all organized religions were created by men to suit man's own purposes. I also think that bad (but smart) people created the religions and run them today to control and manipulate people who like to be controlled and manipulated.
i wouldnt say "men" created religion, because tbh, you dont have the evidence to prove it
you know dude, i totally respect you for what you believe in, and its good to defend urself
so all I have to say, is that islam has pure teachings
unfortunately, the media in the west will pounce on every oppurtunity as soon as a muslim state does something "unacceptable" to the standards of the west
I honestly believe that if you sat down with the sunni scholars i have seen, youll cry after seeing them
AllahlsMYLight - since man wrote the books of all religions, man created all religions. The only standard that I use to judge any religion for myself, is if the religion teaches the love between people and the right of each person to live their own lives as they wish. No god could or would ask more of mankind.
mohammed was illiterate, he couldnt have possibly written the quran in such fluent and rich arabic
people converted to islam solely because of the richness in the Arabic language >.>
if mohammed was illiterate, that means that he did not write the quran (disproving man created religion), rather the quran being gods true words revealed by an angel
Sorry allahIsMyLight, but your fairytales do not work. Mohammed was a warrior politician who warred against Mecca. He wrote many verses of the Quran to justify war, killing and splitting the spoils of wars. Islam is a religion of death, killing and destruction. It is an evil religion and fascist political movement.
God is Love...and these people don´t represent a God of Love, they represent the evil, the hate, the prejudice, and everything that degrades the human condition. They talk on behalf of spirituality when they have no mercy, no pity and they are so cruel that I believe they have no soul. I will finally agree with Marx when he said that religion is people's opium (Sorry, if the translation is not exact)
Thank you my friend for such an excellent video! Hugs. Beto
Thanks for the video. Its scary that this is so current. April 2009. When will these religious fanatics wake up! That they are brainwashed and ignorant!
"Death is too good for them"......? ...these people are fundamentalist bigots as bad as Hitler. Their killing of young gays calls for revenge and calls for international condemnation of such violence against gays by governments and churches. Where is the outrage ? Islam is bigotry. Ratzinger is a bigot.
Islam truly is a depraved religion but Christianity is no better - its just that Christianity thrives in countries where religious dogma is not allowed to rule. Were it to be, Christian leaders would treat gays, "adulterers" (of which they are often the worst offenders), and so on with similar medieval techniques as extremist muslim animals. They just aren't given the platform to act out on their fairytale-induced beliefs.
These cult leaders are geniuses. Like religious leaders before them they know how to deceive, extort, and swindle money out of all the blind superstitious sheep who gladly hand it to them. Said leaders then buy houses, luxury cars, and so on and usually end up busted for tax fraud, but still the blind religious sheep believe them to be God's representatives. When will common sense prevail?
One of the biggest reasons I chose to convert to Buddhism from leaning towards Christianity were these messages of hate and blatant acts of violence. As both a Pacifist and a member of the GLBT community, I saw it as the best belief system to have.
Hi Mike, thanks for the note. I totally agree with you and believe that every religion that is based on sin, damnation, forgiveness and redemption, along with a system of preachers, priest, mullahs, ayatollahs, etc. is corrupt from its very beginning and a false religion. Such systems are created by men for the purpose of controlling other men, resulting in "us" versus "them". We all know what the system tries to then do to the "them"!
Well I just don't plain like the idea of ever making God a "He." This implies God has emotions and can be wrathful and jealous and spiteful, etc. It's a selfish thing mankind has done, to try and make suffering the will of some being. I'd rather more people believed in natural energy and its flow through the universe, rather than some big dude who says, "Do this or else."
A side note: My name's not actually Mike. I originally made this account to honor Michael Myers. It's Stephanie.
Even Tony Blair, with whom I never thought to agree on anything, has criticised the Pope's pronouncement - and he but recently formally converted. But so far as I know the ex Cardinal Ratslinger (as I remember Tony Subia once 'christened' him haha!) has not yet advocated the extreme punishment for being gay at present meted out by the profane & criminal Muslim clerics you highlight. I fully share your sense of outrage and applaud your reaction my dear Allen.
Thank you for the comment Chas. I firmly believe that were it not for civilized governments holding it under control, the Catholic Church would still be conducting its Inquisitions, torturing and murdering those who oppose it. Afterall, the Catholic Church became a political power through the Papal Wars and did not relinquish its political power freely. England's own history with the Catholic Church is a factual testimonial to the Church's bloody murderous ways.
In regards to Tony Blair and his conversion to Papal Poodle, there is an old saying from the rural South referring to the caliber of people one associates with that goes something like: "if you wallow with pigs, you'll get mud on you". The Church can dress a German swine up in grand red robes, but it is still a pig.
Well done as always, Eros, and, of course, straight to the point. Perhaps we'll have to wait for a post-religious world before lgbts can feel and be safe. I'm sure you're aware of Nietzsche's comment: It's not their love, but the impotence of their love, which keeps today's Christians from burning us at the stake.
Thanks xasjodeau! The news and photos of the young Gay men tortured and murdered in Baghdad last week was profoundly sobering. So called Islamic clerics (a.k.a. thugs and murderers parading around as "holy men") threatened the Gay men's families and told them to kill the young men in order to regain their "honor". Unfortunately, there are no civilized governments in the Middle East that protect human rights, except for Israel.
A post religious world may not be as docile as you think. That's raising humanism to the status of religion and has its own set of pitfalls that await.
I totally agree with you vinnie97 ..... fascism and totalitarium systems have historically used religion as tools, but humanism can serve the same purpose. Humanity, as a species, would rather live fantasies than have to deal with the realities of day-to-day problems.
I do not presume to condescend Anglicansag, but I assert the right to debate issues relating to human rights and civil liberties. Neither christianity or islam are friends of homosexuals or of basic human rights, but are enemies of our civil liberties. The actions of the islamic clerics and the words spoken by the mouth of this Pope can not be ignored or denied. If it were not for the protection by civilized governments, we would all probably be dead at the hands of christianity and islam.
Both the Bible and the Qur'an preach peace the people who carried out these acts didn't recive love from God nor allah
nonnahs918 1 year ago
@nonnahs918 Both the Bible and the Qur'an teach violence and hatred. The Old Testament of the Bible was written to give excuses for slavery, beatings, stonings, killings and murders. The Jesus story was created by the Council of Nicea and Jesus was declared a god by the Emperor Constantine for polical reasons. The Qur'an was writted by Muhammad to justify wars, murders and killings to unite the Arab tribes. These are all facts of history.
EROSGODOFGAYS 1 year ago
@nonnahs918
ummmm... lolwut. have you read the bible or the quran. try the book of leviticus and chapter 9 of the quran and then tell me they preach peace. you are deluding yourself if you believe that. i am not saying that all christians/jews/muslims are following the hatred preached in their texts, some of them are peace loving. but the texts DO preach hatred aswell as all the love and peace stuff. it's the great hypocrisy of religion. preaching both love and hate in the same breath.
PHOG1 1 year ago
i belive in god but what i do not belive about god is that he hates gay people or that he wants us to repent because he loves us and all of who we are.
Acheron26firefly 1 year ago
@Acheron26firefly Then obviously you are one of the few people who truly believe in a God of love and you probably strive to follow that belief as an example for your own life. Your friends probably have a lot of respect for you ....... I do too!
EROSGODOFGAYS 1 year ago
Here's something to ponder...
What 'loving' deity, god, or creator of us mankind DEMAND the killing (dogmas by both Christianity and Islam) to gays?
Here's another to think about, WHY do gays believe in god? The bible can't be any clearer and even for women, what 'loving' god would demand KILLING if the woman is not a virgin on her wedding night?
Why can't people stop and THINK RATIONALLY that the whole "RELIGION" concept is full of HATE and ridiculous dogmas that is hurting "US".
Nostalgicmusicvideos 1 year ago
@Nostalgicmusicvideos Because, unfortunately, most people are not rational. The greatest selling pharmaceutical drugs in the world are "anti-psychotic" drugs. Psychosis means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality". So it is not surprising that so many people base their lives on fairy tales like religion.
EROSGODOFGAYS 1 year ago
The Pope's opposed to homosexual behavior but not pedophilia.
sihsobhk 1 year ago 2
Good vid.
DonSelwashington 1 year ago
Important and powerful video. Well done. Tragic and horrifying truth of the lowness to which humanity can sink. Let's hope the world evolves soon.
vstasov 2 years ago
Christians who hate are not real Christians at all.
madderbass 2 years ago 4
All organized religions were created by man as a tool to control other men. The member management tools of the "us" and "them", of the "choosen believers" and the "wicked sinful non-believer infidel" is used by organized religions all the time to define "real christians" and "real muslims" and generate hate of those are not of the choosen.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Right! Agreed, but there are still decent, good-hearted non hypocritical Christians who teach love acceptance and tolerance instead of going against their religion and preaching hate. Still, I'm against organized religion in general.
madderbass 2 years ago 3
@madderbass
What are they then?
outofnowheres 2 years ago
thank you! i am a christian and it says in the bible that when you hate you have commited murder in your heart..... we are suppose to encourage them to get saved not beat them and all that other stuff....
lipqueen04 1 year ago
@lipqueen04 Or maybe the better way to go is to worry about ourselves and our own afterlife.
Fieldhouse12 1 year ago
@madderbass
Actually that's false. Christians whom believe in the bible in which they believe is the word of god, take everything in the fairy book LITERALLY believing "gays" are abominable and should be stoned to death like its written.
Oddly though, how many Christians can you find that listens and abides by what 'jesus' said to do?
We all could respect for all kinds of people if it wasn't for "RELIGION"!
Nostalgicmusicvideos 1 year ago
@madderbass Exactly!
Fieldhouse12 1 year ago
these are the shit christian, shit , Hell for the christian and islam.. hell for everyone bad in this life. JESUS loves everyone even he loved the hoosexual people h never said kill the homo,he loved them... Quran is the whol big shit it says to kill homo. this relegion does´nt respect humen rights.
seqsyz 2 years ago
budism FTW
manticore117 2 years ago
Societies with unequal conditions between women & men, lifestyle and sexual preferences (LGBT or straight), black & white, foreigners/natives & residents, unbeliever & religious... will not give people rights & justice...
anything that is usual for us in our days - is a result of peoples strikes and fights for their interests & we have to retain & defend it all day again...
Let's stand up and fight for equal social rights for everybody - EVERYWHERE!
STOP it! Against Death Penalty everywhere!
Ilkamy 2 years ago
thank you
BAZHE 2 years ago
Where is the LOVE?
Where is tolerance, respect, kindness?
How can these perverts of religious ideals believe they can be loved by their God?
The God who made me, who I believe in,
he believes in me and loves me
for what I am and for who I am.
It is simple, just LOVE.
ThisSuitsMe 2 years ago 8
thats true
Cossakfreedon 2 years ago 2
@ThisSuitsMe
You're right but try taking 'god' out and it'll make more sense (in my opinion).
Nostalgicmusicvideos 1 year ago
STOP death penalty - everywhere!
There is no apologia to kill people!
Thanks for posting this video - to bring up the reality into peoples mind.
(It gives me the shivers - I feel sick.)
I will send your video to the mailinglist of the European Socialforum to spread it out.
Ilkamy 2 years ago
Funny that you should post a clip with Ted Haggard. He was later found out to have been sleeping with a male escort for years and buying crystal meth from him. He still denies being gay (or bisexual) to this day. He claims it was "Satan" corrupting his mind. Fuckin retard!
Naddlem 2 years ago 4
Ted Haggard is a disgusting hypocrite, who pimped religion for a dollar and used hate and bigotry towards Gays to win fame and fortune from the incredibly stupid people who packed his church and loved to listen to his lies. I totally agree with you. Ted Haggard is a disgusting retard!
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Yeah I know. It disgusted me to see him recently on Oprah Winfrey where he just lied and denied every accusation, it was either the devil working his magic (in this case Ted Haggard is synonymous for Satan) or other people have made false claims. All in all, he ought to be ashamed of himself and there are well too many greasy haired, white-suited frauds like him who claim to be the hotline with some sky god and prey on gullible people and get every last penny from them! :/
Naddlem 2 years ago
Eros i m a gay to! i study both of the religions. I ll speak about Christianity. New Testament doesn t say anythnig against homosexuality. Once only py St. Paul attached with men who goes with women! God loves us! you and me! we don't have to deny him because of some individuaals that misunderstud him.
antpapag 2 years ago
antpagag - just because someone does not believe in the god of christianity or islam ... or just because someone criticizes christianity and/or islam for the extreme hypocrisy, bigotry and violent behavior of the largest organizations in either/both religions and many of their members .... does not mean that they do not believe in god. A Hindu or Buddhist or Pagan do not deny god, because they do not believe in the christian or muslim god. The God of Love that I worship is not a god of sin.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
thanks for answering Eros. i totally agree with you. I m gay and the same time Christian. I believe to the God of Love us you do but that God i know by experience is Christ. Sorry for sound so "Gosh, onother Christian". I m trying to say that we must not confuse bad Christians with Christ and say that Christians or Buddhist believes in a God of sin.
i started to like your way of thinking. i felt nice to write to you again! enjoy your summer.
antpapag 2 years ago
@antpapag
The Christianity god don't love gays, STOP trying to sugar coat for your imaginary 'daddy'.
Old Testament doesn't say anything about you having to "PAY" 10% of what you make to god, New Testament does, do you see where I'm getting at? Besides, why on earth would 'god' need your hard earned money for?
We all could love one another, it's the RELIGION that's stopping us.
Nostalgicmusicvideos 1 year ago
EROS i agree with you, i see nothing but nature all around me, not this ONE god <.< who in fact isnt much of a god who let everyone down by killing and murdering everyone around the world..Loving god? I think Not...
Love and light too all....
zeustruth 2 years ago
Bible is all writen by MEN not by this so called one god <.< do you have proof too back it up beside the so called good book?
before there was a bible there was Pagans and there knowledge and teachings of the most wises, then christiaity came can took all the holidays from all religions and made it there own lmao..you christians need too learn your history.
christians=hate,murder=killing, jeez...didnt the bible say shall not kill? but yet moses and all killed LOL..you idiots
zeustruth 2 years ago
The Bible and Quran were both written by men to serve the purposes of men.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
pope has more pedophiles in his church than anywhere on earth!!
spotball7 2 years ago 3
The Bible said you shall not steal or play.. you shall not control a others in there life... god said i am the god iam the one who judage you and iam the one who put you in the hell or haven
bsaddam1 2 years ago
in my honest opinion, islam, and all other religions in their core teachings are very similar
its the fools without proper education that go and interpret the teaching without the presence of scholars that ruin the whole thing for muslims
and no, religion is good in itself, but its the people that change it
you have moderate people on one hand, and extremists on the other hand
HOWEVER, there are more good people in this world than bad, but interestingly enough bad people are always in power!
allahIsMyLight 2 years ago
AllahIsMyLight - from your comments, I think your beliefs and intentions are good, but all organized religions were created by men to suit man's own purposes. I also think that bad (but smart) people created the religions and run them today to control and manipulate people who like to be controlled and manipulated.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
i wouldnt say "men" created religion, because tbh, you dont have the evidence to prove it
you know dude, i totally respect you for what you believe in, and its good to defend urself
so all I have to say, is that islam has pure teachings
unfortunately, the media in the west will pounce on every oppurtunity as soon as a muslim state does something "unacceptable" to the standards of the west
I honestly believe that if you sat down with the sunni scholars i have seen, youll cry after seeing them
allahIsMyLight 2 years ago
AllahlsMYLight - since man wrote the books of all religions, man created all religions. The only standard that I use to judge any religion for myself, is if the religion teaches the love between people and the right of each person to live their own lives as they wish. No god could or would ask more of mankind.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
see, mohammed never wrote the quran
mohammed was illiterate, he couldnt have possibly written the quran in such fluent and rich arabic
people converted to islam solely because of the richness in the Arabic language >.>
if mohammed was illiterate, that means that he did not write the quran (disproving man created religion), rather the quran being gods true words revealed by an angel
of course you dont have to believe this
allahIsMyLight 2 years ago
Sorry allahIsMyLight, but your fairytales do not work. Mohammed was a warrior politician who warred against Mecca. He wrote many verses of the Quran to justify war, killing and splitting the spoils of wars. Islam is a religion of death, killing and destruction. It is an evil religion and fascist political movement.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Islam vs Christianity, it's like two women arguing over who has the biggest dick.
Ninjauman558 2 years ago 5
God is Love...and these people don´t represent a God of Love, they represent the evil, the hate, the prejudice, and everything that degrades the human condition. They talk on behalf of spirituality when they have no mercy, no pity and they are so cruel that I believe they have no soul. I will finally agree with Marx when he said that religion is people's opium (Sorry, if the translation is not exact)
Thank you my friend for such an excellent video! Hugs. Beto
betoargba3 2 years ago 2
Great video!
Guys and girls,embrace the reason and fight side by side against religons!
callimacos 2 years ago
Thanks for the video. Its scary that this is so current. April 2009. When will these religious fanatics wake up! That they are brainwashed and ignorant!
robertgmg 2 years ago
"Death is too good for them"......? ...these people are fundamentalist bigots as bad as Hitler. Their killing of young gays calls for revenge and calls for international condemnation of such violence against gays by governments and churches. Where is the outrage ? Islam is bigotry. Ratzinger is a bigot.
rickT5555 2 years ago 9
I totally agree with you rickT5555!
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
If there is a God and he approves of violence like this, then he is a monster.
kenwen4 2 years ago 7
Islam truly is a depraved religion but Christianity is no better - its just that Christianity thrives in countries where religious dogma is not allowed to rule. Were it to be, Christian leaders would treat gays, "adulterers" (of which they are often the worst offenders), and so on with similar medieval techniques as extremist muslim animals. They just aren't given the platform to act out on their fairytale-induced beliefs.
harryluvsdraco 2 years ago 3
I totally agree with you harryluvsdraco and have had expressed this same viewpoint to several of the YT members, who posted comments below.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
well said
che1x2 2 years ago
These cult leaders are geniuses. Like religious leaders before them they know how to deceive, extort, and swindle money out of all the blind superstitious sheep who gladly hand it to them. Said leaders then buy houses, luxury cars, and so on and usually end up busted for tax fraud, but still the blind religious sheep believe them to be God's representatives. When will common sense prevail?
harryluvsdraco 2 years ago
Very interesting video
Xersex2009 2 years ago
This video was terrifying.
One of the biggest reasons I chose to convert to Buddhism from leaning towards Christianity were these messages of hate and blatant acts of violence. As both a Pacifist and a member of the GLBT community, I saw it as the best belief system to have.
Thank you for telling the truth.
MIKEDADOLL 2 years ago
Hi Mike, thanks for the note. I totally agree with you and believe that every religion that is based on sin, damnation, forgiveness and redemption, along with a system of preachers, priest, mullahs, ayatollahs, etc. is corrupt from its very beginning and a false religion. Such systems are created by men for the purpose of controlling other men, resulting in "us" versus "them". We all know what the system tries to then do to the "them"!
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Well I just don't plain like the idea of ever making God a "He." This implies God has emotions and can be wrathful and jealous and spiteful, etc. It's a selfish thing mankind has done, to try and make suffering the will of some being. I'd rather more people believed in natural energy and its flow through the universe, rather than some big dude who says, "Do this or else."
A side note: My name's not actually Mike. I originally made this account to honor Michael Myers. It's Stephanie.
MIKEDADOLL 2 years ago 3
Even Tony Blair, with whom I never thought to agree on anything, has criticised the Pope's pronouncement - and he but recently formally converted. But so far as I know the ex Cardinal Ratslinger (as I remember Tony Subia once 'christened' him haha!) has not yet advocated the extreme punishment for being gay at present meted out by the profane & criminal Muslim clerics you highlight. I fully share your sense of outrage and applaud your reaction my dear Allen.
brychar66 2 years ago
Thank you for the comment Chas. I firmly believe that were it not for civilized governments holding it under control, the Catholic Church would still be conducting its Inquisitions, torturing and murdering those who oppose it. Afterall, the Catholic Church became a political power through the Papal Wars and did not relinquish its political power freely. England's own history with the Catholic Church is a factual testimonial to the Church's bloody murderous ways.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
In regards to Tony Blair and his conversion to Papal Poodle, there is an old saying from the rural South referring to the caliber of people one associates with that goes something like: "if you wallow with pigs, you'll get mud on you". The Church can dress a German swine up in grand red robes, but it is still a pig.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Well done as always, Eros, and, of course, straight to the point. Perhaps we'll have to wait for a post-religious world before lgbts can feel and be safe. I'm sure you're aware of Nietzsche's comment: It's not their love, but the impotence of their love, which keeps today's Christians from burning us at the stake.
xasjodeau 2 years ago
Thanks xasjodeau! The news and photos of the young Gay men tortured and murdered in Baghdad last week was profoundly sobering. So called Islamic clerics (a.k.a. thugs and murderers parading around as "holy men") threatened the Gay men's families and told them to kill the young men in order to regain their "honor". Unfortunately, there are no civilized governments in the Middle East that protect human rights, except for Israel.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
A post religious world may not be as docile as you think. That's raising humanism to the status of religion and has its own set of pitfalls that await.
vinnie97 2 years ago
I totally agree with you vinnie97 ..... fascism and totalitarium systems have historically used religion as tools, but humanism can serve the same purpose. Humanity, as a species, would rather live fantasies than have to deal with the realities of day-to-day problems.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
I search for Social Justice.
You illustrate, quite luridly, the need for Social Justice.
I am a perfectly, imperfect Human. We all are. We must strive for Social Justice even if it is through imperfect institutions.
Disagree with me all you like.
Do NOT presume to condescend.
anglicansag 2 years ago
I do not presume to condescend Anglicansag, but I assert the right to debate issues relating to human rights and civil liberties. Neither christianity or islam are friends of homosexuals or of basic human rights, but are enemies of our civil liberties. The actions of the islamic clerics and the words spoken by the mouth of this Pope can not be ignored or denied. If it were not for the protection by civilized governments, we would all probably be dead at the hands of christianity and islam.
EROSGODOFGAYS 2 years ago
Very compelling
mbc46 2 years ago
HomoGeneyes 2 years ago