They dont tell you that for pc users like myself having all kinds of problems logging into live plattform to save my pc games. Terrible service once again by Microssoft.
Oh, please! All that without an explination of exactly what 'Games for Windows Live' actually is. Without all the hype or distractions (xbox), what are we really talking about here? Is this a way to buy regular games online or buy games which can only be played online? Is it online multi-player gaming or can those who prefer to play alone against a computer benefit as well? What are achievements? Where is a list of games?
People are talking shit about Games for Windows-Live. But Steam when it came out had the same problems so I hear. Give it time and it will become great. Just like Steam did.
Great for anti-cheat but don't buy games from them because it's a complete ripoff. How can you be 100% more expensive than my favorite online shop? On top of that I have to download it and keep the game on hdd or burn it (no booklet). I have a 30 Gig DL-limit a month. No way I'm waisting bandwith on overpriced games if I can have the original DVD by post faster than the time it takes to download the bloody thing!!!!!!!!!!!
just downloaded it today bought bioshock 2, and so far its complete shit. if xbox live can have an auto resume download system, why the fuck cant gfw. wait 3 hours just to get to 32%, computer shuts down. and have to completley restart the downlaod from 0%, thanks MS
If you have a PC. Boycott GFWL / LIVE games. For one things. Its terrible to play compared to proper PC games networks. For a second thing, you may have paid thousands for a PC which gives you a much better machine than a 200/300 Xbox. Shadowrun is a good example. Massive complaints to consumer direct (UK) when MS charged people to play on a monthly basis before backing down. MS have made it clear that they are working towards and ASP model. Pay as you play? More like pay and pay forever.
GFWL is awesome an so in GFW. But 90% of all the pc GWF players wish that all the games had achievements and could connect to their gamercards and have DLC for there games
Why do peopel prefer playing more on consols you got to pay to downlaod new maps ewry year 50$ to play online + annoying assholes that keep saying ther 1337 and shit but they suck on PC you dont need to pay for DLC such as the new cod maps and no need to pay to play + even more players in games liek in cod 4 ther cna be 50 palyers in one server
if microsoft want to have PC gaming market then they need to bring more xbox titles and more games over all which are compatible with LIVE and have achievements.
Well actually I read on quite a couple of forums (including Gamespot forums) that GFWL has a lot of problems and plus the fact most GFWL titles don't even support mods (GTA 4 is like the only one), however steam does and is a way better service considering it doesn't have as many problems as GFWL does, so that's just a stupid statement. You also might want to think about the fact that Live's servers are really shitty (trust me I have friends who have used it so don't bash me for this).
I was backing up my old friend GFWL. 1. Fallout 3 supports mods 2. I am very active on the actual GFWL Forums and there are so many people that have no problem with live 3. The online really isnt bad, its just most people dont give it a try. I know for a fact that no other computer program can let you do cross platform so gfwl is a first on that one. and I also might add that it is really fun doing crossplatform
GFWL is not the only program you can do cross platform gameplay with, Gamespy just did that with Unreal Tournament 3 and are planning on doing that with other games, there are also certain MMOs which have allowed people do have cross platform gameplay and there are also more on the way such as The Agency (Star Wars the Old Republic might do the same thing as well), so you obviously don't know what your talking about, no offense.
I was actually unaware of that feature of Gamespy. On the matter of crossplatform matches I will say that GFWL truely has it down compared any other program because there are more games out for gfwl that support xplatform then gamespy has. I also will add that steam has copied many things off of gfwl and xbox...but I will say that gfwl has copied some things from steam as well. I'll call it a mutual relationship.
There are plenty of games (such as Final Fantasy 11) which have had crossplatform gaming long before GFWL/XBL, and that cross platform feature isn't even present in most GFWL titles (in fact most games for windows titles dont even have live enabled). So you can say what you want but Live is not at all the best service and GFWL is shit compared to steam and gamespy and will never have nearly as many people as other services that are out there.
Each has its own advantages. I use Steam for most games, but for Microsoft oriented games such as Gears of War, Halo 2, Shadowrun, etc, I use GFWL. I also play Fallout 3 on GFWL because of achievements and DLC. However, when it comes to other games, I find Steam a preferable platform.
HAH, are you kidding me? when someone using a 360 controller plays against someone with a mouse a keybrd, the guy on the will own him up the butt, because you cant really be precise while aiming on a joystick. and dont piss at me, there are studies that show this
Games for Windows Live is probably one of the stupidest ideas that anyone could possibly come up with. I don't think you can even mod or create maps with this service like you can using something such as Steam or the Unreal Editor. If you guys want a cool gaming service I would definitely recommend Gamespy, it gives you so much more than live does, including hitpoints which you can exchange for games rather than using cash.
Duh dude, its made to fit with xbox live, and use your live account on your PC. Something you would use IN ADDITION to Steam, assuming you already have a live account.
I was actually talking about games such as GTA 4 for PC which use Live only which does not allow you to mod, things like modding are what make pc gaming unique, do you really want pc gaming to be more like console gaming. Personally I think thats pretty gay.
I'm the wrong person to ask at the moment. I've always been a console guy, but now I am becoming torn between the two, especially with 'games for windows', since I can easily start playing with my wireless 360 controller on the PC. I would love for PC games to become more like console games, less the restrictions
Actually making PC like consoles would put more restrictions on certain things such as what I just mentioned above, you might be able to map in certain games but a ton of other things are restricted. Thats why I prefer Steam over the gay GFWL service because through the Steam service Valve allows user created content, unlike Live, and ultimately delivers more to the players than console ever could.
Anything MS touches has their own tyrannical interest in mind. I cannot argue with you, including how Steam is probably better than the live service. I guess since I have an xbox 360 it would be nice to still be able to be on 'live' while PC gaming is all. If it was REALLY up to me, MS would go extinct. They have a lust for control that needs extinguished.
Steve Jobs as the devil's incarnation on earth? Now that sounds so much more intelligent haha! They all deserve to go down, since honesty in big business is a thing of the past.
ya you can use unreal editor in some gfwl games and halo 2 vista has its own map editor and now if you use gfwl only its free and you can be silver but do everything golds can for free.
if u read magazines or website articles about PCs (written by people who actually KNOW stuff about the PC) you'll soon find out tha PC gaming is a MUCH bigger market than consoles. most surveys don't take digital distribution into account
its got a much longer history too so i dn't get what these people are talkig about towards the end xD
What you just said is nonsense. All, that's ALL my friends, have either a PS1, PS2, Xbox, 360, PS3. Some have more than one. None of them have gaming PCs.
In my college, I know of one person who plays games on their PC. Just about everyone else plays/owns a console. (this is out of over 2000 people)
Actually you'll find that more people play PC gaming. Don't believe me, look how many people are playing games like Counter Strike Source, Unreal games, Battlefield on PC, and even Starcraft. And just so all console fanboys know, I just read an article recently that said that more people actually pay to play World of Warcraft compared to that of Xbox Live, when you count the total number of Live accounts, not all of them are gold where as people who play WoW are all playing online.
They dont tell you that for pc users like myself having all kinds of problems logging into live plattform to save my pc games. Terrible service once again by Microssoft.
missjacko1 8 months ago
fuck u GFWL
bvestationfan 10 months ago
Thanks Microsoft this software has done more damage to the PC Gaming indsutry than good. If you have any decency you'll retire your software.
kingspagge 10 months ago
help! when i made my account for some reason my year of birth was there but my day and month wasent! can i still change it
Nintendomanic 11 months ago
is gfw live compatible with xp
SPECTRE9200 1 year ago
is this still around!!!
EZbakeROFLcakes 1 year ago
@EZbakeROFLcakes Yes it is.
InvincibleGam3r 1 year ago
PLZ HELP !!!! I HAVE LIVE PROFILE AND I WANT TO FORMAT HWO I CAN SAVE THE SAVE GAMES???? PLZ HELP!
XVAGOSX1 1 year ago
Microsoft can go stay at the fuck off hotel, i'm never buying one of their games again.
hamdinosaur 1 year ago
@hamdinosaur hahah
TrOPiCaLCLiPzx 1 year ago
Oh, please! All that without an explination of exactly what 'Games for Windows Live' actually is. Without all the hype or distractions (xbox), what are we really talking about here? Is this a way to buy regular games online or buy games which can only be played online? Is it online multi-player gaming or can those who prefer to play alone against a computer benefit as well? What are achievements? Where is a list of games?
stewartx5 1 year ago
People are talking shit about Games for Windows-Live. But Steam when it came out had the same problems so I hear. Give it time and it will become great. Just like Steam did.
Inuboy1000 1 year ago
Great for anti-cheat but don't buy games from them because it's a complete ripoff. How can you be 100% more expensive than my favorite online shop? On top of that I have to download it and keep the game on hdd or burn it (no booklet). I have a 30 Gig DL-limit a month. No way I'm waisting bandwith on overpriced games if I can have the original DVD by post faster than the time it takes to download the bloody thing!!!!!!!!!!!
(first demo I installed didn't work anyway)
planetzork 1 year ago
Mabe the PC has smaller share in the US but in Europe and in the rest of Asia It still has a strong position...
CzBeno 1 year ago
Xbox gamers Vs. PC gamers xD
What dumb fuck though about this? xbox faggots has no chance against PC gamers, even the worst ones.
TraNWhiZ 1 year ago 2
just downloaded it today bought bioshock 2, and so far its complete shit. if xbox live can have an auto resume download system, why the fuck cant gfw. wait 3 hours just to get to 32%, computer shuts down. and have to completley restart the downlaod from 0%, thanks MS
JakerO4 1 year ago
I love Windows LIVE. It isn't as bad as you people make it out to be, in fact, it is quite good.
BanditMilom 1 year ago
If you have a PC. Boycott GFWL / LIVE games. For one things. Its terrible to play compared to proper PC games networks. For a second thing, you may have paid thousands for a PC which gives you a much better machine than a 200/300 Xbox. Shadowrun is a good example. Massive complaints to consumer direct (UK) when MS charged people to play on a monthly basis before backing down. MS have made it clear that they are working towards and ASP model. Pay as you play? More like pay and pay forever.
Makadonska27 2 years ago 9
@Makadonska27
Or just use key gen....
like me :O
EddieLolz3r 1 year ago
THANK YOU MICROSOFT!!!! i cant play Red faction guerrilla now becouse i live in Poland! Thank you bitches
marcinosman 2 years ago 15
Same here in Hungary!
CzBeno 1 year ago
@marcinosman Zgadzam się :/ nie mogę nagrywać powtórek gta 4 żal
MrBartosz211 11 months ago
i love live, its more fun to play with achievements
WhiteSlayerOwnz 2 years ago
GFWL is terrible. I hate MS now.
Hornilope 2 years ago
i have to thank Microsoft to make alot of games that we loved in PC
Mohazesh 2 years ago
pc gaming is awsome
mikenike1010 2 years ago
now my PC is linked to my LCD TV and i have a wireless xbox pad, I don't think I'll buy another console ever again :-)
GemmaTCat 2 years ago
GFWL is awesome an so in GFW. But 90% of all the pc GWF players wish that all the games had achievements and could connect to their gamercards and have DLC for there games
StarConflict 2 years ago
you can, u can use ur gamertag from xbox and use it on windows and get more gamerscore :D
ShaneyI3oi 2 years ago
i wish all games for windows had achievements not just the live ones
SuperPerson32 2 years ago
Why do peopel prefer playing more on consols you got to pay to downlaod new maps ewry year 50$ to play online + annoying assholes that keep saying ther 1337 and shit but they suck on PC you dont need to pay for DLC such as the new cod maps and no need to pay to play + even more players in games liek in cod 4 ther cna be 50 palyers in one server
Nightmare78hAlo 2 years ago
if microsoft want to have PC gaming market then they need to bring more xbox titles and more games over all which are compatible with LIVE and have achievements.
MasterChiefAgent007 2 years ago
they already do..just no advertisement
Sequan09 2 years ago
SHADOWRUN is GOD
Hoey1235 2 years ago
it is
Hoey1235 2 years ago
GFWL is so much better then steam
Jackles2012 2 years ago
Well actually I read on quite a couple of forums (including Gamespot forums) that GFWL has a lot of problems and plus the fact most GFWL titles don't even support mods (GTA 4 is like the only one), however steam does and is a way better service considering it doesn't have as many problems as GFWL does, so that's just a stupid statement. You also might want to think about the fact that Live's servers are really shitty (trust me I have friends who have used it so don't bash me for this).
KevKos180 2 years ago
I agree with KevKos180. I have bad exprience about GFWL
NahkaZ 2 years ago
I was backing up my old friend GFWL. 1. Fallout 3 supports mods 2. I am very active on the actual GFWL Forums and there are so many people that have no problem with live 3. The online really isnt bad, its just most people dont give it a try. I know for a fact that no other computer program can let you do cross platform so gfwl is a first on that one. and I also might add that it is really fun doing crossplatform
Jackles2012 2 years ago
GFWL is not the only program you can do cross platform gameplay with, Gamespy just did that with Unreal Tournament 3 and are planning on doing that with other games, there are also certain MMOs which have allowed people do have cross platform gameplay and there are also more on the way such as The Agency (Star Wars the Old Republic might do the same thing as well), so you obviously don't know what your talking about, no offense.
KevKos180 2 years ago
I was actually unaware of that feature of Gamespy. On the matter of crossplatform matches I will say that GFWL truely has it down compared any other program because there are more games out for gfwl that support xplatform then gamespy has. I also will add that steam has copied many things off of gfwl and xbox...but I will say that gfwl has copied some things from steam as well. I'll call it a mutual relationship.
Jackles2012 2 years ago
There are plenty of games (such as Final Fantasy 11) which have had crossplatform gaming long before GFWL/XBL, and that cross platform feature isn't even present in most GFWL titles (in fact most games for windows titles dont even have live enabled). So you can say what you want but Live is not at all the best service and GFWL is shit compared to steam and gamespy and will never have nearly as many people as other services that are out there.
KevKos180 2 years ago
Then we shall agree to disagree
Jackles2012 2 years ago
Fair enough.
KevKos180 2 years ago
Actually Fallout 3 also has mods
GFWLevent 2 years ago
Each has its own advantages. I use Steam for most games, but for Microsoft oriented games such as Gears of War, Halo 2, Shadowrun, etc, I use GFWL. I also play Fallout 3 on GFWL because of achievements and DLC. However, when it comes to other games, I find Steam a preferable platform.
JeffWaffles 2 years ago
GFWL GET THE FUCK OUT
Mrbob200 3 years ago
games for windows live has SO MANY PROBLEMS, so it sucks
Tf2Sn 3 years ago
HAH, are you kidding me? when someone using a 360 controller plays against someone with a mouse a keybrd, the guy on the will own him up the butt, because you cant really be precise while aiming on a joystick. and dont piss at me, there are studies that show this
pen1232 3 years ago
By the way if anyone agrees with me please tell these guys why pc gaming should stay the way it is.
KevKos180 3 years ago
And by the way, you can't use Live "in addition" to Steam, because they're 2 different services, I've looked it up myself.
KevKos180 3 years ago
Games for Windows Live is probably one of the stupidest ideas that anyone could possibly come up with. I don't think you can even mod or create maps with this service like you can using something such as Steam or the Unreal Editor. If you guys want a cool gaming service I would definitely recommend Gamespy, it gives you so much more than live does, including hitpoints which you can exchange for games rather than using cash.
KevKos180 3 years ago
Duh dude, its made to fit with xbox live, and use your live account on your PC. Something you would use IN ADDITION to Steam, assuming you already have a live account.
truthseeker1973 3 years ago
I was actually talking about games such as GTA 4 for PC which use Live only which does not allow you to mod, things like modding are what make pc gaming unique, do you really want pc gaming to be more like console gaming. Personally I think thats pretty gay.
KevKos180 3 years ago
I'm the wrong person to ask at the moment. I've always been a console guy, but now I am becoming torn between the two, especially with 'games for windows', since I can easily start playing with my wireless 360 controller on the PC. I would love for PC games to become more like console games, less the restrictions
truthseeker1973 3 years ago
Actually making PC like consoles would put more restrictions on certain things such as what I just mentioned above, you might be able to map in certain games but a ton of other things are restricted. Thats why I prefer Steam over the gay GFWL service because through the Steam service Valve allows user created content, unlike Live, and ultimately delivers more to the players than console ever could.
KevKos180 3 years ago
Anything MS touches has their own tyrannical interest in mind. I cannot argue with you, including how Steam is probably better than the live service. I guess since I have an xbox 360 it would be nice to still be able to be on 'live' while PC gaming is all. If it was REALLY up to me, MS would go extinct. They have a lust for control that needs extinguished.
truthseeker1973 3 years ago
thats probably the stupidest thing ive ever heard. "a lust for control" riiight
pen1232 3 years ago
If that comment ranks #1 on your 'stupidest things ever heard' list, then you need to get out more.
truthseeker1973 3 years ago
well thats your opinion, (you dumbass)
i personally think apple should go extinct,
cuz,steve jobs is the devil's incarnation on earth.
pen1232 3 years ago
Steve Jobs as the devil's incarnation on earth? Now that sounds so much more intelligent haha! They all deserve to go down, since honesty in big business is a thing of the past.
truthseeker1973 3 years ago
ya you can use unreal editor in some gfwl games and halo 2 vista has its own map editor and now if you use gfwl only its free and you can be silver but do everything golds can for free.
Jimmyyaesu 3 years ago
can you run Games for Windows Live in your backgroud as an application?
MasterChiefAgent007 3 years ago
You will soon, they are adding a new, more pc like user interface with an outside client.
MrBiggles5 3 years ago
Cool!
MasterChiefAgent007 3 years ago
if u read magazines or website articles about PCs (written by people who actually KNOW stuff about the PC) you'll soon find out tha PC gaming is a MUCH bigger market than consoles. most surveys don't take digital distribution into account
its got a much longer history too so i dn't get what these people are talkig about towards the end xD
dumbpotatothing 3 years ago 2
What you just said is nonsense. All, that's ALL my friends, have either a PS1, PS2, Xbox, 360, PS3. Some have more than one. None of them have gaming PCs.
In my college, I know of one person who plays games on their PC. Just about everyone else plays/owns a console. (this is out of over 2000 people)
IIJazzyII 3 years ago
Actually you'll find that more people play PC gaming. Don't believe me, look how many people are playing games like Counter Strike Source, Unreal games, Battlefield on PC, and even Starcraft. And just so all console fanboys know, I just read an article recently that said that more people actually pay to play World of Warcraft compared to that of Xbox Live, when you count the total number of Live accounts, not all of them are gold where as people who play WoW are all playing online.
KevKos180 3 years ago
very tru...in my opinion there is more pro pc gamers than there is 360 pro gamers...i think
nastysalad 3 years ago
guys gfw is free =] if you dont believe me google it. no more monthly charge wooooot!!
hellorobot123 3 years ago
i wished gears of war was multiplatform pc v 360 play!
rashad546 3 years ago
It is... But you have to buy Games for windows Live Gold for 50 bucks for 12 months! WEAK!!! :(
FrosChannel 3 years ago
yeh but you cant play gears.of.war pc version with xbox360 live players its not compatible we have tried with friends wont allow to join in!
rashad546 3 years ago
Seriously? I have to look into this then.
FrosChannel 3 years ago
Its free now
MrBiggles5 3 years ago
ther are only like 4 or 5 games that use live on PC gears of war,halo 2,kane and lynch,univers at war,
360DarkHalofan78 3 years ago
awesome
dovella 3 years ago