Slight clarification on my recent comment: My point about 2 ghost notes inbetween snare downbeats would apply to the Purdie Shuffle, not to a regular shuffle groove (where no snare ghost note is included)...
Kudos to Max here for his playing...another thing I would suggest that can be involved in the dynamics/texture of this groove (and in a shuffle groove altogether) is that the 3rd note of the triplet on the hi-hat tends to be played more lightly (almost like a ghost note) - so inbetween snare downbeats, you may hear 2 ghost notes instead of (what is usually identified as) 1 ghost note...and if played extra carefully, the triplet (hi-hat, ghost, hi-hat) can descend in volume like an echo...
I'm in the process of putting a class together on this subject and came across your video. I can't believe that for all these years I haven't given this groove the attention it deserves. That has now changed. This is a great video and very well explained, Thanks for posting
Max - great lesson and beat. I used it to learn the Putdie shuffle. But where are you pitting the bass notes. They are difficult to hear. Please let me know.
Max I really enjoyed your lesson on the purdie shuffle, a really great feel. Another phenomenal drummer is James Gadson. I would love to see you post a video on his groove to express yourself from the Charles Wright 103rd street band.
BTW, I've got the "Steve Gadd Groove Lick" down. Really cool and greatly appreciated. I've been using it as a back-beat (as you demonstrate) and I've moved it around to snare/toms etc., using it as a fill. One of these days I'll get around to making a response vid!
i've been practicing this. the L & R hands aren't a problem. and if i stick to the same BD pattern, I'm Ok. It's when I try to change up & get a bit improvisational with the BD that things get messed up. i need to, somehow (in my mind), disconnect my hands from my feet. i'm working on it!
@twinsmm1@twinsmm1 After my sticking was down pat, my BD foot eventually began to play as easily as with a single 8th note pattern (vs. 8th note triplets)...the 1st note of the triplet can be seen as single 8th notes in a typical rock beat:
1gR2gR(3L)gR4gR5gR6gR(7L)gR8gR
(3L), (7L) = right hand/left hand together; L = downbeat
g = ghost note
For me, 8th notes 2 & 3 of the triplet "faded" away, and I began to see the groove as an embellishment on the single 8th note pattern
I said all that (in my previous comment) to make the point that if 8th notes 2 & 3 of the triplet also "fade" away for you, then your BD foot may play as naturally as it would in your straight rock beat...you'll get it!...
great lesson....although I would have liked for you to explain the addition of the 'psst-psst' HH fill that Purdie is known for...maybe just posting a comment on which part of the bar it falls on.
lol//:P... i love shuffle beats..:)... they are super groovy... and.. anyway.. i love making shuffle beats...:).. BTW my fav is the rosanna's shuffle...:P...
This is an outstanding breakdown of a super-tasty technique that is difficult to execute as it is simple to explain. At least it was for me, anyway. I wish I'd found this clip before I drove myself nuts pulling this groove apart by myself.
Max, thanks for the service you're doing for the drumming community.
I have seen several videos explaining this- yours is the first that does the trick! You are a master teacher , and you have a keen ability for explaining drumming concepts for the newbie. Rock on!
No emphyrean, this IS the purdie shuffle, just keep in mind that Purdie can, and does, do it in any subdivison of notes. Here Max is doing it in triplets which is the most common way it is done. Also I will grant you that nobody does it as well as Bernard !
You know guys, there are great players and great teachers but they don't always go together in the same person. Budd Rich for example, great player but not so good at explaining things.
Max has great feel and explains things pretty well in my opinion.
I second that. Humble guy with a great touch. Maybe the sounds are not the greatest you've heard, but so what. He's not explaining the recording techniques, but groove. And does that much more in detail than the creator himself.
I don't like hi-hats being hit with the edge of the stick. It just sounds sloppy to me. If Bill Bruford wouldn't do it, then I wouldn't either, but that's just my dumb opinion.
He's only doing the accents on the edge you fool, it's what gives the shuffle it's feel.... He even explains that in the video.... And of course Bill Bruford hit's the edge of his hi-hat.... How can it sound sloppy...? I don't get your reasoning....
I ain't arguing with you matey, I'm just saying you're obviously not a drummer, otherwise you'd realise that hitting the edge of the hi-hat is common practice among us drummers to give an accent, it lends a groove more feel...
@drunksingsheep You got two things right: definitely a great drummer here, and your opinion is dumb. Any sophisticated drummer is going to utilize the dynamic contrast between the top of the hat stroked with the tip of the stick and the edge of the hat stroked with the shoulder of the stick within eight notes, dotted eights, sixteenth notes, ect. And whatever other creative approach that this dynamic tool can be imagined to function in. Understand Bill Bruford then share a more sensible opinion.
Most drummers convey their own style into the half- time shuffle because of it's flamboyant nature. You don't simply pound it out like some kind of robot. That's what makes It an art. Some of these technicians just don't seem to be able to grasp that. It would suck if we all played exactly alike.
My only critcism was that he called it the Purdie shuffle, if he had said it's my variation on the Purdie shuffle, that would have been great. Just like if you're teaching someone how to play a paradiddle and you show them something else and call it a paradiddle... it wasn't really a paradiddle, but they're going to think that that is how a paradiddle is supposed to be played... make sense??
Yes, perhaps he should tittle it differently. "Bernard PerdieType Half-Time Shuffle". I don't know of anyone who can truly imitate Bernard. He developed his shuffle to the sound of the trains and called it his locomotion.
I've seen Purdie in several clinics... Your shuffle sounds totally different, more like John Bonhams shuffle. Check out John Bonham on drummerworld for "fool in there rain", drums only. You'll see what I mean. It's still not bad though...
Hmm... it's a shuffle alright but it ain't the Purdie Shuffle.
I think you've forgotten one very key ingredient in the Purdie Shuffle: the groove. And your groove is broke from 4:41 - 6:50. Namely your kick... Needs more grease.
You patronizing idiot. This guy is special...fact. What a horrible way to comment on a video.....unbelievable. Just watch any of his videos....I defy any drummer or any other musician for that matter, not to be blown away with his feel, groove and chops. I personally think he's got the balance between those 3 qualities VERY right. I think the Idea of "4:41 - 6:50 is to encourage people to make it their own, play around with it.....have fun.......grease??????............get a grip.
Alright, I gave it another look and I'll concede that the guy does have some skill and not all of 4:41 - 6:50 is broke... But the fact is when he breaks the groove, it's just that: broke.
I'm not pointing that out as a totality of his skill, just this particular video.
I'll even agree that he's "slipping in 3:4 polyrhythmic stuff that is absolutely killer..." like your boyfriend, themancable, says.
Psh, dude's not gonna die from a little criticism.
Not going to let you get out of this one easily Petey.
You've got to open your ears to what some of the beautiful stuff that Max is playing in the 4:41 - 6:50 section. Max is doing a lot stuff on the second partial of the triplet and also slipping in 3:4 polyrhythmic stuff that is absolutely killer. Buzzes and straight sixteenths are also there. If that ain't greasy, then what the f*?k is?
LOL, aww did I hurt your vagina? How about next time you don't mistake your shallow praises as some semblance of respected opinion or personality? Stupid.
Ahahahaha, ok, ok... I owe you an apology, Mr. Inconsequential Youtube Handle. I apologize that I even gave you the idea, nay, a hint, that I care about what you think. Really.
Go on about your bad self. Thx for the quote though. I appreciate the effort.
Next time you comment on a video, back up your critique with a video of yourself doing it so better. Everything else is a lack of consequence on YOUR part. ALAS YOU ARE THE INCONSEQUENTIAL ONE.
Pity the fool Petey3fingaz.
BTW: This is my last response to you. Bet you can't resist another response though.
This makes the beautiful groove, all the more inspiring. Your method, to Purdies madness, really hits a mark with my learning curve. I am a self taught, "listen to the records and play" drummer, with a VERY distinctive style, which I have tried to keep honest yet loose and open minded. I appreciate your videos, and now am turning attention to your channel. Your description of the Hi-hat method here, is Key, as I was wasting too much energy with a double handed 1/16th note hi hat method.THANKX
Thank you. It´s a simple form of teaching, whitout impossible top-secrets. Do you know the take-five groove? It´s fantastic and a pretty groove to learn. I suggest you to make a video lesson to show it. Bye friend.
Thank you. It´s a simple form of teaching, whitout impossible top-secrets. Do you know the take-five groove? It´s fantastic and a pretty groove to learn. I suggest you to make a video lesson to show it. By friend.
Eres de los pocos bateristas que embellece y da forma a cada golpe en la bateria ....simplemente de lo mejor que hay en youtube sin duda !Gracias Max!
To fnkdrmmr, I don't have to be an historian to know this fact....I played with Pretty Purdie here in Altanta At the Blue ( A B3 Room)Room...I saw the Purdie shuffle live and up close. This video is not about history, its about the Purdie Shuffle. Thusly my uninformed friend my point is still valid, this is Max's version of the Purdie Shuffle...By the way, you should learn your history...Rosanna is a mixture of THE PURDIE SHUFFLE and BO DIDDILY... NOT JOHN BONHAM...
Hey onegoodalphaman, You're right, this is my version of the Purdie Shuffle . But it's not the Rosanna beat. I've studied both beats . The Rosanna shuffle is quite a bit faster and I'm not playing the Bo Diddley bass drum pattern that Jeff Porcaro plays underneath it. I posted this video to pass on what I've learnt . The pattern i demonstrate in the lesson is the Purdie Shuffle. The interpretion of it is mine. If Steve Gadd or Steve Jordan would play this beat it would sound like the
Purdie Shuffle played by Steve Gadd and Steve Jordan. This is how music evolves. Everyone is influenced by someone, then adds there own personality to that. Not by choice. This happens automatically.If you're criticizing my interpretation of the beat and have something constructive to suggest to me. I'll take it to heart and work on it. If not, your comments are not helpful and just put people down. I play with a bass player who's toured with Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks and Fred Wesley.
He's also played with the amazing Bernard Purdie. We've played the Purdie shuffle feel together many times and he likes the feel of what I play. Would he say it sounds like Bernard Purdie, No. Bernard is a groove monster and I never said I play the Purdie Shuffle Like he does. Does this mean that only Bernard Purdie is allowed to teach or perform the Purdie Shuffle. Let's stop talking and analyzing and let's start making music. All the Best. Take care, Max
W/respect to John Bonham (Pun Intended) Jeff Pocaro, in his Instructional Video, STATES he borrowed from BOTH Purdie "&" John Bonham to come up/w his Rosanna groove! Although John Bonham borrowed from Purdie, Pocaro gave props to BONZO as well. No doubt about that! YES JOHN BONHAM...
To onegoodalphaman; Please learn your drum history. Jeff Porcara (RIP) was influenced a lot by Bernard Purdie. Jeff clearly states in his DVD that he got the Rosanna beat from mixing John Bonham & Bernard Purdie beats. This is common knowledge in the drumming world. So technically when you hear Rosanna you hear Purdie. So this clip is correct when he refers to the Purdie shuffle as a Purdie beat and not mentioning Rosanna at all. For once, we can discuss the GREAT Bernard Purdie.
This video helped me to start very basic doing just triplets with the two hi-hat hits and the ghost snare hit like you do at 2 minutes and 18 seconds. I played that a lot and also the beat without the ghost snare notes. Then the last stage was for me to put them together by alternating playing the beat without ghost snare hits once and then playing the beat with them. Thanks so much.
Very helpful and very awesome! What helps me is how Bernard Purdie in his video refers to the snare beats (ghosts) as being rebound. It exactly like what you are saying, after the snare hit, it's not a seperate swing its like a rebound hit. What has helped me the most with learning this has been using the ride instead of closed hi-hat or simply releasing the top hi-hat so my foot does not have to hold the hats closed. For some reason when I do this I am able to play this beat. Hope that helps.
Great teacher... Thanks I greatly appreciate this video
SnCroadster 1 month ago
very nice. when you think you got it figured out........ya don't.
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Koopaking96 5 months ago
thank you! could use some words on the bass ... but still, very clear and greatly explained
creativeChips 6 months ago
Slight clarification on my recent comment: My point about 2 ghost notes inbetween snare downbeats would apply to the Purdie Shuffle, not to a regular shuffle groove (where no snare ghost note is included)...
davss5 8 months ago
Kudos to Max here for his playing...another thing I would suggest that can be involved in the dynamics/texture of this groove (and in a shuffle groove altogether) is that the 3rd note of the triplet on the hi-hat tends to be played more lightly (almost like a ghost note) - so inbetween snare downbeats, you may hear 2 ghost notes instead of (what is usually identified as) 1 ghost note...and if played extra carefully, the triplet (hi-hat, ghost, hi-hat) can descend in volume like an echo...
davss5 8 months ago
Awesome drumming!!! EPIC WIN
NathanReggae 9 months ago
8 people couldn't figure it out.
plemyk 9 months ago
AWESOME breakdown and explanation dude. - Thanks heaps.
nattyj000 9 months ago
You're superb max. i haven't seen a video of yours and not picked something up. Great work man!
xMHM2010 9 months ago
thanks max. you have help'd me figure out this beat. your break down of it is phenomenal. and your drumming has help improve mine.. thank you again
jadengalachiuk 9 months ago
you got awesome feel man
Patto311 10 months ago
Awesome!!
dtigers27 10 months ago
Thanks! It's sad more drummers don't know this groove.
Richardsmusic 11 months ago
Hey, thanks.
It's cool!
nohjiyoung 11 months ago
Thanks for the effort, you splain it well.
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Thanks for class,you is a exelent teather.
Jezibone1 1 year ago
Tanks for class.You is a exelent teacher.
Jezibone1 1 year ago
i finally got the beat itself comfortable, now for the dynamics!
allmetaliswelcome 1 year ago
Hi Max
I'm in the process of putting a class together on this subject and came across your video. I can't believe that for all these years I haven't given this groove the attention it deserves. That has now changed. This is a great video and very well explained, Thanks for posting
Glennhallam 1 year ago
yum
AliceInChains89 1 year ago
Excellent!
elliotttiki 1 year ago
im alright thanks how are you
Mrfordtoyou 1 year ago
I appreciate that you mentioned the ghost note following the downbeat - I feel the groove flows more nicely (when this ghost note is included)...
davss5 1 year ago
awesome lesson
jahfester 1 year ago
thanks tor this video Max
Sousleek 1 year ago
Max - great lesson and beat. I used it to learn the Putdie shuffle. But where are you pitting the bass notes. They are difficult to hear. Please let me know.
madubin 1 year ago
dude, killer rendition. pristine.
pampdog 1 year ago
Greate,Thank you
123lifeful 1 year ago
Max I really enjoyed your lesson on the purdie shuffle, a really great feel. Another phenomenal drummer is James Gadson. I would love to see you post a video on his groove to express yourself from the Charles Wright 103rd street band.
16605655 1 year ago
BTW, I've got the "Steve Gadd Groove Lick" down. Really cool and greatly appreciated. I've been using it as a back-beat (as you demonstrate) and I've moved it around to snare/toms etc., using it as a fill. One of these days I'll get around to making a response vid!
twinsmm1 1 year ago
i've been practicing this. the L & R hands aren't a problem. and if i stick to the same BD pattern, I'm Ok. It's when I try to change up & get a bit improvisational with the BD that things get messed up. i need to, somehow (in my mind), disconnect my hands from my feet. i'm working on it!
twinsmm1 1 year ago
@twinsmm1 @twinsmm1 After my sticking was down pat, my BD foot eventually began to play as easily as with a single 8th note pattern (vs. 8th note triplets)...the 1st note of the triplet can be seen as single 8th notes in a typical rock beat:
1gR2gR(3L)gR4gR5gR6gR(7L)gR8gR
(3L), (7L) = right hand/left hand together; L = downbeat
g = ghost note
For me, 8th notes 2 & 3 of the triplet "faded" away, and I began to see the groove as an embellishment on the single 8th note pattern
davss5 1 year ago
@twinsmm1 Part 2 of my comment:
I said all that (in my previous comment) to make the point that if 8th notes 2 & 3 of the triplet also "fade" away for you, then your BD foot may play as naturally as it would in your straight rock beat...you'll get it!...
davss5 1 year ago
kinda wierd guy, but great drummer. cheers
JeWdAL 1 year ago
excellent breakdown max. that beat is so nasty man. it has that purdie and john bonham feel to it. love it. peace
drumminkappa 1 year ago
great lesson....although I would have liked for you to explain the addition of the 'psst-psst' HH fill that Purdie is known for...maybe just posting a comment on which part of the bar it falls on.
thumbs up from me :)
thegreatNEb 1 year ago
cheers man ive been keen to get my ghost strokes heaps better
portlandplaceNL 1 year ago
"GROOOOOOVY" great stuff...greatings from germany :o)
ilikemydw 1 year ago
lol//:P... i love shuffle beats..:)... they are super groovy... and.. anyway.. i love making shuffle beats...:).. BTW my fav is the rosanna's shuffle...:P...
awesomedrummer555 1 year ago
@awesomedrummer555
This is the rosanna shuffle...
ozzi94 1 year ago
Thanks Max! great job man.
Armistace 2 years ago
great tutroial
you should have one on
the Rosanna's Shuffle : )
thatbrownguy 2 years ago
Would you call that rocking motion your using the Moeller Technique?
mortar 2 years ago
@mortar
Armistace 2 years ago
I'll have to agree, a great explanation of classic shuffle
Thanks Max!!
mortar 2 years ago
This sends chills down my spine its so nice
DiobloHunter 2 years ago
Max,
Very nice playing my friend. Excellent feel you have there.
Love that Purdie shuffle!
tracyrosetrio 2 years ago
Hi, i saw a lot of explanations of Purdie Shuffle in you tube but to my mind its the best!
medok911 2 years ago
great lesson!! thanks heaps
Theillusive85 2 years ago
awesome...great breakdown...
bartolo333 2 years ago
5 stars
bubnjarovski 2 years ago
The first beat sounds exactly like Babylon Sisters by Steely Dan which Purdie did play on
markusjj85 2 years ago
This is an outstanding breakdown of a super-tasty technique that is difficult to execute as it is simple to explain. At least it was for me, anyway. I wish I'd found this clip before I drove myself nuts pulling this groove apart by myself.
Max, thanks for the service you're doing for the drumming community.
pjscrc 2 years ago 31
Incredible second half again.
YTisshit 2 years ago
I have seen several videos explaining this- yours is the first that does the trick! You are a master teacher , and you have a keen ability for explaining drumming concepts for the newbie. Rock on!
sarah55413 2 years ago 4
the shift around 5:39 is very nice and others as well. thanks for uploadning..
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MsDrums123 2 years ago
LOVE the pocket. Very nice feel!
jbrecording 2 years ago
this beat is used very effectively in Grapvine Fires by Death Cab For Cutie
MasterJruss 2 years ago
thanks
MrSoloniPedro 2 years ago
nice one matey! you got some good groove there
bringerofshit99 2 years ago
No emphyrean, this IS the purdie shuffle, just keep in mind that Purdie can, and does, do it in any subdivison of notes. Here Max is doing it in triplets which is the most common way it is done. Also I will grant you that nobody does it as well as Bernard !
mlcoo17 2 years ago
well done.
Laight4work 2 years ago
While that was a great shuffle, that is not the :Purdie Shuffle". Please watch his version and compare.
emphyrean 2 years ago
your a very good drummer
johnnykaighin65 2 years ago 3
MAESTRO!!!!
leitochie 2 years ago
very good lesson! and you are a very good drummer too.
jurecq 2 years ago
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benhhx 2 years ago
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lacking a little vocabulary but still clarifies a little bit.
better words could've been used to explain a lot better.
RichPark92 2 years ago
Thank you! You solved my problem with this shuffle!!! :)
kirilldobryansky 2 years ago
MAX you are awesome
timezoner 2 years ago
Nice play but is that a snare or a 44 gallon drum @ 2:44 ? lol ghost notes...creepy
GregOdrums 2 years ago
Awesome vid :]
I cracked up @3.34 when you said "...and that's it, the bass drum is pretty much just doing--" /starts shuffling
I was expecting some more explanation.
kingoflessthanthree 2 years ago
great feel, absolutely love the variations at the end
briankingston76 2 years ago
Very well explained! I am very impressed and some what inspired as you have excellent teaching skills and a master player.
drumsonly2002 2 years ago
i get chills hearing that groooooooove
aseriousoffender 2 years ago
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vdopower66 2 years ago
..syncopation..
Dmully 2 years ago
just hearing this brings a smile to my face. what a difference ghost notes make. its like they really are the beat.
vdopower66 2 years ago
Smoooooooth...
bonzoleum 2 years ago
Very helpful, thanks!
YourDailyLaughs 2 years ago
THANKS!!!!!!! By the way: Go Canada!!
chunkyfishdied 2 years ago
Why do so many drummer do a video on "the Purdie shuffle" when they can go get it straight from the man himself?
theaggravator 2 years ago 2
Because this one is better explained then the one from Drummerworld.
doisneau 2 years ago
Better than Purdie himself? You're an idiot!
theaggravator 2 years ago
You know guys, there are great players and great teachers but they don't always go together in the same person. Budd Rich for example, great player but not so good at explaining things.
Max has great feel and explains things pretty well in my opinion.
geoden 2 years ago 37
I second that. Humble guy with a great touch. Maybe the sounds are not the greatest you've heard, but so what. He's not explaining the recording techniques, but groove. And does that much more in detail than the creator himself.
joshoreefe 2 years ago 2
@geoden
I agree wholeheartedly. I've seen so many youtube videos on the shuffle, and this was the clearest version I've seen/heard.
rohbit 1 year ago
what I can do forn you?
rhutya 1 year ago
very good sir. ive watched a few of your vids and you got the groove man.
jordanlannert1 2 years ago
"Babylon Sisters" Steely Dan! ;-))
DEFENDER29 2 years ago
I don't like hi-hats being hit with the edge of the stick. It just sounds sloppy to me. If Bill Bruford wouldn't do it, then I wouldn't either, but that's just my dumb opinion.
Great Drummer here though.
nice work
drunksingsheep 2 years ago
He's only doing the accents on the edge you fool, it's what gives the shuffle it's feel.... He even explains that in the video.... And of course Bill Bruford hit's the edge of his hi-hat.... How can it sound sloppy...? I don't get your reasoning....
TeslaNick2 2 years ago
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Write when you learn what the fuck your talking about, dumbfuck. Tesla? No wonder you're a worthless idiot.
drunksingsheep 2 years ago
I ain't arguing with you matey, I'm just saying you're obviously not a drummer, otherwise you'd realise that hitting the edge of the hi-hat is common practice among us drummers to give an accent, it lends a groove more feel...
TeslaNick2 2 years ago 2
@drunksingsheep You got two things right: definitely a great drummer here, and your opinion is dumb. Any sophisticated drummer is going to utilize the dynamic contrast between the top of the hat stroked with the tip of the stick and the edge of the hat stroked with the shoulder of the stick within eight notes, dotted eights, sixteenth notes, ect. And whatever other creative approach that this dynamic tool can be imagined to function in. Understand Bill Bruford then share a more sensible opinion.
chochemerlyn 1 year ago
I love this guy for teaching me this!!!
zildjian5o5 2 years ago 2
Most drummers convey their own style into the half- time shuffle because of it's flamboyant nature. You don't simply pound it out like some kind of robot. That's what makes It an art. Some of these technicians just don't seem to be able to grasp that. It would suck if we all played exactly alike.
loosenutlambert 2 years ago 2
My only critcism was that he called it the Purdie shuffle, if he had said it's my variation on the Purdie shuffle, that would have been great. Just like if you're teaching someone how to play a paradiddle and you show them something else and call it a paradiddle... it wasn't really a paradiddle, but they're going to think that that is how a paradiddle is supposed to be played... make sense??
DawnsNighmare 2 years ago
Yes, perhaps he should tittle it differently. "Bernard PerdieType Half-Time Shuffle". I don't know of anyone who can truly imitate Bernard. He developed his shuffle to the sound of the trains and called it his locomotion.
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
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liennto 2 years ago
thanks, you're awesome.
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
very good
MOGOSCH 2 years ago
I've seen Purdie in several clinics... Your shuffle sounds totally different, more like John Bonhams shuffle. Check out John Bonham on drummerworld for "fool in there rain", drums only. You'll see what I mean. It's still not bad though...
DawnsNighmare 2 years ago
yeah but bonhams is different from this shuffle too. its got hat opens and more bass beats
plopenstien 2 years ago
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loosenutlambert 2 years ago
thank bro...very nice.
1luvnuall 2 years ago
Hmm... it's a shuffle alright but it ain't the Purdie Shuffle.
I think you've forgotten one very key ingredient in the Purdie Shuffle: the groove. And your groove is broke from 4:41 - 6:50. Namely your kick... Needs more grease.
Stay with it and good luck.
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
You patronizing idiot. This guy is special...fact. What a horrible way to comment on a video.....unbelievable. Just watch any of his videos....I defy any drummer or any other musician for that matter, not to be blown away with his feel, groove and chops. I personally think he's got the balance between those 3 qualities VERY right. I think the Idea of "4:41 - 6:50 is to encourage people to make it their own, play around with it.....have fun.......grease??????............get a grip.
pastiesboy 2 years ago
I agree with ya pastiesboy!
Petey3fingaz must be out of his bleeping mind.
Hey Petey, got tissue stuck in yer ears?
Max is a groove monster.
themancable 2 years ago
Alright, I gave it another look and I'll concede that the guy does have some skill and not all of 4:41 - 6:50 is broke... But the fact is when he breaks the groove, it's just that: broke.
I'm not pointing that out as a totality of his skill, just this particular video.
I'll even agree that he's "slipping in 3:4 polyrhythmic stuff that is absolutely killer..." like your boyfriend, themancable, says.
Psh, dude's not gonna die from a little criticism.
Oh and Fuck you too.
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
Not going to let you get out of this one easily Petey.
You've got to open your ears to what some of the beautiful stuff that Max is playing in the 4:41 - 6:50 section. Max is doing a lot stuff on the second partial of the triplet and also slipping in 3:4 polyrhythmic stuff that is absolutely killer. Buzzes and straight sixteenths are also there. If that ain't greasy, then what the f*?k is?
themancable 2 years ago
Hyeah... Hmm... You hang on to that buddy. Good job. =)
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
The problem with you Petey is that you've mistaken your sticks for a butt plugs. Get them outta yer arse you pretentious fuck.
themancable 2 years ago
LOL, aww did I hurt your vagina? How about next time you don't mistake your shallow praises as some semblance of respected opinion or personality? Stupid.
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
You're just making a fool of yourself. You're content on making this ugly. Must be a reflection of your true self.
Here's a quote for you (don't hurt your foot thinking about it though):
The pleasures of ignorance are as great, in their way, as the pleasures of knowledge. ~Aldous Huxley
themancable 2 years ago
Ahahahaha, ok, ok... I owe you an apology, Mr. Inconsequential Youtube Handle. I apologize that I even gave you the idea, nay, a hint, that I care about what you think. Really.
Go on about your bad self. Thx for the quote though. I appreciate the effort.
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
Pity the fool Petey3fingaz.
Next time you comment on a video, back up your critique with a video of yourself doing it so better. Everything else is a lack of consequence on YOUR part. ALAS YOU ARE THE INCONSEQUENTIAL ONE.
Pity the fool Petey3fingaz.
BTW: This is my last response to you. Bet you can't resist another response though.
Pity the fool Petey3fingaz.
themancable 2 years ago
Meh. You were good for a laugh.
Petey3fingaz 2 years ago
You are awesome man! Keep the good work up!
Thejudgeofyourvid 2 years ago
VeryveryVery Clear!!!!
Feesharp9er 2 years ago
Good work man. I´ve been trying to understand how to play skuffle, but is clear. Thanks!
Kupiakumi40 2 years ago
thanks a lot , you really helped me in learning this.
fantomseed 2 years ago
great!
it was really helpful :D
jcsotom 2 years ago
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akitoytube 2 years ago
amazing drumming
lijionatrof 2 years ago
From 6:00 and forward is just amazing!
tonicmass 2 years ago
Yeah, it's great stuff.
themancable 2 years ago
soooopurb
HecatombRecordings 2 years ago
This makes the beautiful groove, all the more inspiring. Your method, to Purdies madness, really hits a mark with my learning curve. I am a self taught, "listen to the records and play" drummer, with a VERY distinctive style, which I have tried to keep honest yet loose and open minded. I appreciate your videos, and now am turning attention to your channel. Your description of the Hi-hat method here, is Key, as I was wasting too much energy with a double handed 1/16th note hi hat method.THANKX
freqazoidiac 2 years ago
PASSION. thx
rrratatam 2 years ago
amazing beat ....
mesoprano 2 years ago 2
Max you are an amazing drummer, so humble and yet you have the power to groove like amonster, a true PRO!
God bless you my friend and keep drumming.
Sky's the limit,
Henry
Drumming2thelord 2 years ago 3
very helpful
1luvnuall 2 years ago
Your one of the loosest drummers i've ever seen! AMAZING
twjewett 3 years ago 2
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Thank you. It´s a simple form of teaching, whitout impossible top-secrets. Do you know the take-five groove? It´s fantastic and a pretty groove to learn. I suggest you to make a video lesson to show it. Bye friend.
akitoytube 3 years ago
Thank you. It´s a simple form of teaching, whitout impossible top-secrets. Do you know the take-five groove? It´s fantastic and a pretty groove to learn. I suggest you to make a video lesson to show it. By friend.
akitoytube 3 years ago
very good man, thanks!!!!!
zararochy 3 years ago
Eres de los pocos bateristas que embellece y da forma a cada golpe en la bateria ....simplemente de lo mejor que hay en youtube sin duda !Gracias Max!
Cuchufletonsky 3 years ago
thanks for this video. it really helped.
i love how you broke it down, it became a lot easier.
scopata201 3 years ago
To fnkdrmmr, I don't have to be an historian to know this fact....I played with Pretty Purdie here in Altanta At the Blue ( A B3 Room)Room...I saw the Purdie shuffle live and up close. This video is not about history, its about the Purdie Shuffle. Thusly my uninformed friend my point is still valid, this is Max's version of the Purdie Shuffle...By the way, you should learn your history...Rosanna is a mixture of THE PURDIE SHUFFLE and BO DIDDILY... NOT JOHN BONHAM...
onegoodalphaman 3 years ago
Hey onegoodalphaman, You're right, this is my version of the Purdie Shuffle . But it's not the Rosanna beat. I've studied both beats . The Rosanna shuffle is quite a bit faster and I'm not playing the Bo Diddley bass drum pattern that Jeff Porcaro plays underneath it. I posted this video to pass on what I've learnt . The pattern i demonstrate in the lesson is the Purdie Shuffle. The interpretion of it is mine. If Steve Gadd or Steve Jordan would play this beat it would sound like the
dimsunk 3 years ago
Purdie Shuffle played by Steve Gadd and Steve Jordan. This is how music evolves. Everyone is influenced by someone, then adds there own personality to that. Not by choice. This happens automatically.If you're criticizing my interpretation of the beat and have something constructive to suggest to me. I'll take it to heart and work on it. If not, your comments are not helpful and just put people down. I play with a bass player who's toured with Clyde Stubblefield and Jabo Starks and Fred Wesley.
dimsunk 3 years ago
He's also played with the amazing Bernard Purdie. We've played the Purdie shuffle feel together many times and he likes the feel of what I play. Would he say it sounds like Bernard Purdie, No. Bernard is a groove monster and I never said I play the Purdie Shuffle Like he does. Does this mean that only Bernard Purdie is allowed to teach or perform the Purdie Shuffle. Let's stop talking and analyzing and let's start making music. All the Best. Take care, Max
dimsunk 3 years ago
W/respect to John Bonham (Pun Intended) Jeff Pocaro, in his Instructional Video, STATES he borrowed from BOTH Purdie "&" John Bonham to come up/w his Rosanna groove! Although John Bonham borrowed from Purdie, Pocaro gave props to BONZO as well. No doubt about that! YES JOHN BONHAM...
BONHZEPPELIN 3 years ago
To onegoodalphaman; Please learn your drum history. Jeff Porcara (RIP) was influenced a lot by Bernard Purdie. Jeff clearly states in his DVD that he got the Rosanna beat from mixing John Bonham & Bernard Purdie beats. This is common knowledge in the drumming world. So technically when you hear Rosanna you hear Purdie. So this clip is correct when he refers to the Purdie shuffle as a Purdie beat and not mentioning Rosanna at all. For once, we can discuss the GREAT Bernard Purdie.
fnkdrmmr 3 years ago 4
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DUDE...THAT IS NOT THE PURDIE SHUFFLE...YOU'R ARE PLAYIN YOUR VERSION OF IT....but what you are really playing is Jeff Picaro's Rosanna Shuffle.
onegoodalphaman 3 years ago
wrong answer
420jaymac 3 years ago
what was the wrong answer....?
onegoodalphaman 3 years ago
Very informitive! Thanks.
geneembry1 3 years ago
hay man ur vid helped ive been practicing this for a couple of days n i can do it now ! thanks man!
kenlim994 3 years ago
o god!! the best man!! now I want lear to your videos! ;)
jenjis556 3 years ago
Thanks Max this video helped so much. You broke it down really good man. THANKS AGAIN keep up the good work on the videos
getwrecked99 3 years ago
This video helped me to start very basic doing just triplets with the two hi-hat hits and the ghost snare hit like you do at 2 minutes and 18 seconds. I played that a lot and also the beat without the ghost snare notes. Then the last stage was for me to put them together by alternating playing the beat without ghost snare hits once and then playing the beat with them. Thanks so much.
hai2you2 3 years ago
Very helpful and very awesome! What helps me is how Bernard Purdie in his video refers to the snare beats (ghosts) as being rebound. It exactly like what you are saying, after the snare hit, it's not a seperate swing its like a rebound hit. What has helped me the most with learning this has been using the ride instead of closed hi-hat or simply releasing the top hi-hat so my foot does not have to hold the hats closed. For some reason when I do this I am able to play this beat. Hope that helps.
hai2you2 3 years ago
absolutely fantastic analysis - u rock dude!
spamba 3 years ago
well goood. i can do it quite well but cant quite get it in the pocket lol
bleyland629 3 years ago
Thats very informative and your shuffle is soo nice... its like silky smooth!
Cheers
Runepriest442 3 years ago
Brilliant. Very Helpful.
Thank you!
I appreciate it!
jsltm888 3 years ago
very good, i still have trouble though
etnies12188 3 years ago
so sweet ghost notes!
workgrave 3 years ago
That's great!
Bombtrack411 3 years ago
fuckin' smoooooooooooooooooooth man...
WORMED3 3 years ago
great
stratocaster539 3 years ago
great
stratocaster539 3 years ago
Solid shuffle and great explanation.
ksotiroff 3 years ago
that is very very good
but please turn the lights on next time!
respect
maximustb 3 years ago
your grooves and fills have a really amazing feel to it, great job!
zestin 3 years ago
good lesson, Fool In The Rain by zepp has a nice shuffle.
bonzoludwig 3 years ago
great lesson!!!
tiannalfo 4 years ago