looks like alot of fun, quanity over quality in this video, just as long as im getting one of those i happy as hell. i know you catch alot of hawgs to though. i use to live on the panhandle of florida but i plan on moving moving to southern florida when i retire, i live right next to toledo bend in LA right now so fishing is always good. im hoping and trying to go to the amazon for my mid tour leave from here in afghanistan so i can lay into some peacocks.... its almost to expensive though
Don't Want TO Be Mean But I'm From ILLINOIS And We Catch Bass Bigger Than Those But, That Dose Look Very Fun Were Going TO Move Down In Fort Myers Any Tips On Fishing Spots There Man????????? P.s. Do You Guys Have Pike And Musky Down There?
Thanks for sharing. I dont know when or where I say that this is a video on big fish... It is a video showing how to fish a worm on top of the water and catch fish. If you want to see big fish just visit my websites or watch a few of my Amazon vids and eat your freekin hearts out....LOL
Nice vid. Been catchin em that size to 8 lbs. in west deerfield. We lost a lot of peacocks up here, been snookin' the beach and docks instead. How are the peacocks down there?
Thanks for your comment! The peacock bass in Miami are doing just fine. Not much doing north of there though. Hope we dont have another winter like the last.
Hey man i love this video i would love to see more of ur topwater fishing thanks man ive been flippin with speed worms but never tried them on top until recently just because ur video thanks alot man i actually caught a few fish today on it in central florida if i ever come that way ill be sure to call u up
@spyhunter2010 that was the boat... the boat that u see right ahead of them after the sound.. dont know what they called but theres plenty down here in orlando florida.
how do you recommend using a frog artificial with a weedless hook? I'm new to freshwater fishing, fished saltwater all my life but now where i moved there are a couple of freshwater ponds and lakes and I know they'r stocked cause i checked'm out.
What do you recommend to use? Had some luck with worms but wanna try something else. Thanks any information i can get would be appreciated.
very nice man. I've tried just about all the lures mentioned thus far, but i'm stoked to try these scum frog bigfoots i just picked up. hollow body floater with kicking feet.
i live in florida right next to the glades and i do the same thing u do and it always works but try these frogs called "Ribbit" they produce some massive fish
The key is oxymoron is to hook the work differently and let it sink more and have your fingers on the line to feel for the tug. This time of the y ear the bass are not super high energy and only the smallers ones will chase large like that.
Very nice i havent tried everglades yet but im in WPB so i fish in some nice good size ponds or lakes and man are those bass fun to catch them on topwater. I use that same exact worm too, but ive never tried this method ill try it next time i usually use a topwater popper and man do they hit that baby HARD!
hey just wondering when you go to the everglades do you really have to go to any particular spots when you go out there or can you just go out there and use that speed worm and most likely catch one?
It is more or less "areas" in the everglades since everything looks the same. That said there are some specific spots that have structures like rock piles, humps or ledges that you can key in on. You just have to look until you find them. Just go try that speed worm and see what happens. Hope that helps out.
In the video it is the smaller one. maybe it is the way you are hooking it? It also will swim weird with too heavy of a hook, too light of a hook or if you get a bad run of plastic from Zoom. Try the "horny toad hook" in a 3 or 4 / O size.
I like the big speed worm too but it also swims weird for me at times but it will generally attract bigger bites..
Try the 5" Gambler flappin tail worms or their flappin shads. Cut the paddle tail in the exact manner as the Zoom speed worm's tail is cut.
Hey i like the vid very cool. i love fishing in the everglades. my wifes dad owns the everglades safari park so when i get a chance i like to go out there and fish. but i was just wondering the location of where you are fishing in this video. or good lake where i can fish in kendall. anyways thanks for reading! O'Brien.
Hey bro thanks for the comments! The vid was filmed out at Everglades holiday park on the L-68. I was fishing the north side of the canal heading north towards alligator alley throwing a watermelon red zoom speed worm and a black Gambler flappin shad.
cool video, but it seemed as if you pulled the fish out too fast and just tossed it in. now im only 13,but the way i was taught, was to lip the fish, and gently glide it back into the water, not jerk it out of the water and throw it back in
Hey man that is a great way to handle the bigger fish that you catch! You were taught right. However you want to handle any fish that you catch as LITTLE as possible so you do not remove its slime coat which can kill it.
Also, the faster you get a fish back into the water only increases its chances of survival.
Thats not too mention that we are using 7 foot heavy action rods with 40 pound braid in case we have to horse os big fish out of the pads.
I forgot to mention that we are fishing with very heavy rods and 40 pound braid. The idea is BIG fish...though you do not catch them every time...just like the day we filmed the vid. That is what makes fishing so much fun!
ive seen 5 or six ten pounders come out of that canal in the last couple of years,I pulled a 9 during the spawn this year around the corner.I call that canal the lilly pad canal,Ive never taken the time to learn all the #s the one it runs into out there we call the mangrove canal.I was killing them out there during the drought,my last couple of trips out there have been kinda slim.I find when that water is running out of holiday park for more than a couple of days those canals tend to shut down
Danny...hey buddy hope all is well and you get ot try those peacockc out! The vid was filmed on L-68 heading north towards the alley.The "mangrove canal" most of us call the center canal. That runs west to the Miami canal but I am not sure of the number either. The big canal that runs south from the park to Tamiami trail is L-67 or "the big L". The bite at Holiday park is all about water levels...just like the rest of the glades.
hey that first peacock i caught was on a all white color an rapala xrap, there were 2 of them and they just kept chasin it, yesterday i caught my very first gar.
hey, i live in south florida myself, and i just went out to the everglades today, you should've seen it! fish were everywhere so many fish around us and we used every top water lure we had but we didn't catch one fish....maybe we're doing it wrong....
Given all of the recent rains the ph and oxygen levels in the water have been changed drastically in a relatively short time and the fish are in a bit of a funk. We also just had a full moon which does not help either. The gravitational pull on the earth messes with a fish's swim bladder and on nights with no clouds the fish tend to feed all night long under the light of the moon. Sometimes the bite is over at sun-up and not on again to late in the afternoon around the full moons.
That's a really good tip ,and is very true.A lot people advise the opposite.Ive kept track for the last three years, of various conditions.By far the mosted commen threads has been temp,moon phase,and water clarity/movement.Though Ive caught bass in cold and very hot conditions out of holiday park by far the favorite temp is 85 degrees plus or minus a couple.Those afternoon rains will make them more likely to feed at night when its nice and calm as well.
Hey again. WAt would u say would be the best lure for dormant bass in heavy cover. im fishin a lake and theres a bass atleast 10lb+ jus hiding in the heavy grass and he jus wont budge.wat would be the best lure.
The frog is a good lure for the grass. Try the Gambler cane toad, horny toad or even the spro frog. Throw a big 14" worm at it also texas rigged weedless. .
Hey. Im not The best with baitcast reels and ugh i need to know wats the best way to like stop the birds nest and how to better my accuracy and persistancy in the way i cast thx
Practice, practice...sounds like me with a fly rod...try adjusting the spool magnets as well as the brake for the spool. If you drop the lure that you are throwing it should hit the ground and not backlash. Thats when you know it is set right. Once you get the hang of it you can loosen both settings up for longer and longer casts. You can always feather the spool with your thumb for better control.
peacockc seldom hit soft plastic baits. I have caught a few on a fluke but that is about it. Try the small Rapala x-raps in colors gold or clown. Make sure that you work them reakl fast. The peacocks weill also eat a chartreuse chatterbait whch is a lot of fun to fish. Dont forget topwater also...chug bugs, torpedos, spooks etc...will work well for the peacocks.
zoom ultra vibe speed craws are also really good topwater baits they have the same tail as the speed worm but has two of them
basstofast99 6 months ago
@basstofast99
Thats a great tip bro! The craws are awesome on top!!
smcdonald86 6 months ago
use a scum frog youll never go back
ricksalty11 6 months ago
how u get it to stay ontop the water?
emokiddXhotemorage 7 months ago
how do u get ur baitcaster to cast that far with a light worm my quantum gets backlash every time i cast a worm as lght as that
imajugalo1 7 months ago
Did you cut a part of the zoom speed worm
ThatHmoobGuy 8 months ago
want to see monster bass go to kepp1212 on you tube
kepp1212 8 months ago
I wonder if Kansas has topwater bass? That's where I'm from.
awajiangirl 8 months ago
is it erloud to fish in everglades ?
LOOOL58 10 months ago
have u guys tried buzzbaits their im preety sure they'll work and it saves u time by not havin 2 rehook the worm again
SproFrogMaster 10 months ago
hey how about we dont slam the bass in the water when you throw them down they can die
Zopin1 11 months ago
That just looks like a blast.....not much vegitation like that here in Indiana but I still love topwater fishin
98ZJKE28 1 year ago
did you make it float like that, or is the worm suppose to float like that?
MrKaoVue 1 year ago
those bass look really thin
alcorbelli60 1 year ago
looks like alot of fun, quanity over quality in this video, just as long as im getting one of those i happy as hell. i know you catch alot of hawgs to though. i use to live on the panhandle of florida but i plan on moving moving to southern florida when i retire, i live right next to toledo bend in LA right now so fishing is always good. im hoping and trying to go to the amazon for my mid tour leave from here in afghanistan so i can lay into some peacocks.... its almost to expensive though
mowderhed 1 year ago
like "Aerojet Canal Bass Fishing" on facebook if youve ever fished it or want to learn more about the best bass fishing in miami.
brettzker 1 year ago
Don't Want TO Be Mean But I'm From ILLINOIS And We Catch Bass Bigger Than Those But, That Dose Look Very Fun Were Going TO Move Down In Fort Myers Any Tips On Fishing Spots There Man????????? P.s. Do You Guys Have Pike And Musky Down There?
kilo9111 1 year ago
@kilo9111
Thanks for sharing. I dont know when or where I say that this is a video on big fish... It is a video showing how to fish a worm on top of the water and catch fish. If you want to see big fish just visit my websites or watch a few of my Amazon vids and eat your freekin hearts out....LOL
smcdonald86 1 year ago
@kilo9111 your bass don't have gators to worry about ;)
We have Florida gar here. We also have tons of tropical fish and butterfly peacock bass.
dragonthc 1 year ago
@kilo9111 pike and muskie lmao we got chain pickeral hahahahahhaaaa yank
BREADSCATAHOULAS 11 months ago
my daughter can catch bigger bass than that....
SuperRoyalpalm 1 year ago
@SuperRoyalpalm
Thanks for sharing
smcdonald86 1 year ago
yall are bassmaster, but look at the way yall release the fish...... instead of lettin them go easly yal jux throw them in
itsmewang 1 year ago
@itsmewang
PETA??
smcdonald86 1 year ago 5
gosh how can u keep catching fish in the same spot, at my pond, once you catch a fish there, anit notin else gonna bite, got any tips?
thefishmaster123 1 year ago
WERE DO U GET YOUR BAITS? CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME
msproperly 1 year ago
Nice my dad caught a 9 lber with that exact bait!
KylesDuctapeStuff247 1 year ago
Good video dont listen to the haters.
Youngman104 1 year ago
Nice bass.
skater123985 1 year ago
I Would Not Pay Anyone To Catch Dingers All Day. I Can Do That for Free. Get Real
yaboy520 1 year ago
@yaboy520
Yep thats all we catch...LOL
smcdonald86 1 year ago
Nice vid. Been catchin em that size to 8 lbs. in west deerfield. We lost a lot of peacocks up here, been snookin' the beach and docks instead. How are the peacocks down there?
PASTACHEF1 1 year ago
@PASTACHEF1
Thanks for your comment! The peacock bass in Miami are doing just fine. Not much doing north of there though. Hope we dont have another winter like the last.
smcdonald86 1 year ago
Nice vid. I gettem' that size to 8lbs. fishin' west deerfield. I miss the peacocks up here, you still gotem' down yonder?
PASTACHEF1 1 year ago
Enjoy the fight dont just yank them on in learn how to enjoy the moment man...
xXTjSaVsXx 1 year ago
@xXTjSaVsXx
OK Thanks for your words of wisdom
smcdonald86 1 year ago
Hey man i love this video i would love to see more of ur topwater fishing thanks man ive been flippin with speed worms but never tried them on top until recently just because ur video thanks alot man i actually caught a few fish today on it in central florida if i ever come that way ill be sure to call u up
buckshotandbassholes 1 year ago
what in hell is that noise at 5:00?!
spyhunter2010 1 year ago
@spyhunter2010 that was the boat... the boat that u see right ahead of them after the sound.. dont know what they called but theres plenty down here in orlando florida.
lDavidx 1 year ago
those largemouth look longer and skinnyer than the unes in washington
dontsnipemebacon 1 year ago
Where about are you fishing in the everglades?
MrStimpy65 1 year ago
@MrStimpy65
L-68 canal out of Holiday park
smcdonald86 1 year ago
Where in the Everglades are you fishing at?
MrStimpy65 1 year ago
i say spro and scum frogs
skeetless1122 1 year ago
you're really good at catching small bass lol, jk
unitaper 1 year ago
@unitaper
Really good at catching BIG ones too !! I see all of those monsters in your videos :) You sound like another LOSER that cant fish a lick!
smcdonald86 1 year ago
very good video
okeebassdudes 1 year ago
I've fished a few years. Almost using the snake gig. good video.
Serpent396 1 year ago
do the topwater frogs work good here too?
AyeeYoJerry 1 year ago
@AyeeYoJerry
Yes they do. I like the Zoom horny toad.
smcdonald86 1 year ago
men i have something better, buy a yamamoto flapping hog and use it just like that in top water is real good try it and let me know.
canokotracks 1 year ago
@canokotracks
Thats a great tip man! I also like a Pacacraw fished the same way on top. They love it!
smcdonald86 7 months ago
how do you recommend using a frog artificial with a weedless hook? I'm new to freshwater fishing, fished saltwater all my life but now where i moved there are a couple of freshwater ponds and lakes and I know they'r stocked cause i checked'm out.
What do you recommend to use? Had some luck with worms but wanna try something else. Thanks any information i can get would be appreciated.
funguy7979 1 year ago
If you want real bass, You gota go to wiscsonsin lol. Nothing compairs.
sharkguy95 1 year ago
bullshit florida is one the worlds best bass fishing spots in the world
TheBassAngler1 1 year ago 10
Ya but when it gets below 50 you guys freak out xD
sharkguy95 1 year ago
yeah but come on wisconsin.....u gotta be kiddin
TheBassAngler1 1 year ago
@TheBassAngler1 so is georgia. after all we do hold the world record for largemouth
fgf051 6 months ago
@fgf051 No ya dont, Japan does, Lake Biwa 22.4oz bass
64notorious 2 months ago
lol
Noslvation 1 year ago
nice videos!!! subscribe to me too people!!
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KnBfishing 1 year ago
For Top Water frogs and lures, go to Ebay and search seller: jcstriper
jcstriper 2 years ago
ha ive been fishin purple paddle tails on top for years. had alot of people laugh too. green zoom trick worms work good too.
82f150 2 years ago
very nice man. I've tried just about all the lures mentioned thus far, but i'm stoked to try these scum frog bigfoots i just picked up. hollow body floater with kicking feet.
effingdancosenza 2 years ago
They work awesome I got my first 5 lb. bass last year with it.
Tight Lines
unc13buck 1 year ago
i live in florida right next to the glades and i do the same thing u do and it always works but try these frogs called "Ribbit" they produce some massive fish
MightyMike2020 2 years ago
made by Stanley...been using them for years! Awesome bait!
smcdonald86 2 years ago
love the low water conditions at Holiday Park. Fishins always good by the Crossroads.
tcshuttersystems 2 years ago
Hey Steve. I want to go down for a guided trip from you service sometime in febuary. What is you're email?
BassBrigade10 2 years ago
The key is oxymoron is to hook the work differently and let it sink more and have your fingers on the line to feel for the tug. This time of the y ear the bass are not super high energy and only the smallers ones will chase large like that.
jdbenike 2 years ago
heck yeah i love my kevin van dam reels
MrBassfisher234 2 years ago
Whats your best topwater frog in your opinion? I have a snagproof but its really stiff on action..
jmsaxmantha2nd 2 years ago
Its hard to beat a Zoom horny toad...if you are talking hollow body frogs... the Spro frog "jr." is my pick.
smcdonald86 2 years ago
my opingnon, tru tungsten's mad maxx frogs is killeer
joblo252 2 years ago
scum frog, nice squishy body and u usually hook all of them.
muskymatt111 2 years ago
4:42, what was that a fan boat or an airplane or something?
largemouthbassrigs 2 years ago
airboat
smcdonald86 2 years ago
hey i fish in a lake in pompano beach and parkland would lures that work there work in the everglades to?
i use
buzzbait
spinnerbait
shads
tiny torpedos etc. and what pound test u think?
hayden536 2 years ago
how do u get the worm to float
huntermm7 2 years ago
it does not float...it will sink slowly if you let it...just reel it up on top of the water like a buzzbait.
smcdonald86 2 years ago
top water is awesome, i dont care what hits it or how big! nice vid... 5 stars from me....
-check out my fish'n vids-
tyonthefly 2 years ago
Very nice i havent tried everglades yet but im in WPB so i fish in some nice good size ponds or lakes and man are those bass fun to catch them on topwater. I use that same exact worm too, but ive never tried this method ill try it next time i usually use a topwater popper and man do they hit that baby HARD!
4455336 2 years ago
hey just wondering when you go to the everglades do you really have to go to any particular spots when you go out there or can you just go out there and use that speed worm and most likely catch one?
marleyboy23 2 years ago
It is more or less "areas" in the everglades since everything looks the same. That said there are some specific spots that have structures like rock piles, humps or ledges that you can key in on. You just have to look until you find them. Just go try that speed worm and see what happens. Hope that helps out.
smcdonald86 2 years ago
absolutely....try Zoom's horny toad.
smcdonald86 2 years ago
would a weedless frog work good in these conditions also?
R3aper81 2 years ago
ill try that and thanks for the tip
fingaskate123 2 years ago
is it the bigger speed worm or the smaller one and for some reason when i hook the smaller one it swims weird
fingaskate123 2 years ago
In the video it is the smaller one. maybe it is the way you are hooking it? It also will swim weird with too heavy of a hook, too light of a hook or if you get a bad run of plastic from Zoom. Try the "horny toad hook" in a 3 or 4 / O size.
I like the big speed worm too but it also swims weird for me at times but it will generally attract bigger bites..
Try the 5" Gambler flappin tail worms or their flappin shads. Cut the paddle tail in the exact manner as the Zoom speed worm's tail is cut.
smcdonald86 2 years ago
ill have to try that rig...thanks...5*
2066241 2 years ago
Thanks! Hope you get a lunker !
smcdonald86 2 years ago
i went today and got a largemouth and it bit my worm in half...this rig works awesome...thanks again.
2066241 2 years ago
Topwater is my favorite :D
mblackestheartm 3 years ago
how do u make the bate weedless plz tell me im tired of taking off all the weeds when im fishing for bass !! nice video tho
XxLOGICSNIPER31 3 years ago
Just come all the way through the bait and then skin hook it or bury the hook in the other side. That should help you out.
smcdonald86 3 years ago
You can add a small weight. A screw in one works best. In the video I am throwing it weightless.
smcdonald86 3 years ago
do you suggest adding a weight to the line when using worms or something similar?
jaznjei 3 years ago
Wow there is perfect bass cover as far as the eye can see lol.
phgHunter 3 years ago
shittttt runnnnnnnnnn aligator!!!!!!!!
sk8tbaker12 3 years ago
did you catch any reds around their??
xXCYRAXx15 3 years ago
ronald mc donald xD pretty cool vid 5 star
BiatchRadiator 3 years ago
Hey i like the vid very cool. i love fishing in the everglades. my wifes dad owns the everglades safari park so when i get a chance i like to go out there and fish. but i was just wondering the location of where you are fishing in this video. or good lake where i can fish in kendall. anyways thanks for reading! O'Brien.
ballazway502 3 years ago
Hey bro thanks for the comments! The vid was filmed out at Everglades holiday park on the L-68. I was fishing the north side of the canal heading north towards alligator alley throwing a watermelon red zoom speed worm and a black Gambler flappin shad.
Tight lines,
Steve
smcdonald86 3 years ago
cool video, but it seemed as if you pulled the fish out too fast and just tossed it in. now im only 13,but the way i was taught, was to lip the fish, and gently glide it back into the water, not jerk it out of the water and throw it back in
geckogangsta 3 years ago
Hey man that is a great way to handle the bigger fish that you catch! You were taught right. However you want to handle any fish that you catch as LITTLE as possible so you do not remove its slime coat which can kill it.
Also, the faster you get a fish back into the water only increases its chances of survival.
Thats not too mention that we are using 7 foot heavy action rods with 40 pound braid in case we have to horse os big fish out of the pads.
Thanks for your comments! Tight Lines
smcdonald86 3 years ago
Cool vid!
sammysboat 3 years ago
What is this? Whats the name from the Sport? "Pull the Fish fast out"? Or is it "Fishing"?
Hecki10 3 years ago
Why dont you come on down to the glades and find out! Tight lines.
Steve
smcdonald86 3 years ago
I forgot to mention that we are fishing with very heavy rods and 40 pound braid. The idea is BIG fish...though you do not catch them every time...just like the day we filmed the vid. That is what makes fishing so much fun!
Tight Lines,
Steve
smcdonald86 3 years ago
ive seen 5 or six ten pounders come out of that canal in the last couple of years,I pulled a 9 during the spawn this year around the corner.I call that canal the lilly pad canal,Ive never taken the time to learn all the #s the one it runs into out there we call the mangrove canal.I was killing them out there during the drought,my last couple of trips out there have been kinda slim.I find when that water is running out of holiday park for more than a couple of days those canals tend to shut down
dannymartin66 3 years ago
Danny...hey buddy hope all is well and you get ot try those peacockc out! The vid was filmed on L-68 heading north towards the alley.The "mangrove canal" most of us call the center canal. That runs west to the Miami canal but I am not sure of the number either. The big canal that runs south from the park to Tamiami trail is L-67 or "the big L". The bite at Holiday park is all about water levels...just like the rest of the glades.
Steve
smcdonald86 3 years ago
hey that first peacock i caught was on a all white color an rapala xrap, there were 2 of them and they just kept chasin it, yesterday i caught my very first gar.
flyfisher1299 3 years ago
hey, i live in south florida myself, and i just went out to the everglades today, you should've seen it! fish were everywhere so many fish around us and we used every top water lure we had but we didn't catch one fish....maybe we're doing it wrong....
deadshot1223 3 years ago
Given all of the recent rains the ph and oxygen levels in the water have been changed drastically in a relatively short time and the fish are in a bit of a funk. We also just had a full moon which does not help either. The gravitational pull on the earth messes with a fish's swim bladder and on nights with no clouds the fish tend to feed all night long under the light of the moon. Sometimes the bite is over at sun-up and not on again to late in the afternoon around the full moons.
smcdonald86 3 years ago
That's a really good tip ,and is very true.A lot people advise the opposite.Ive kept track for the last three years, of various conditions.By far the mosted commen threads has been temp,moon phase,and water clarity/movement.Though Ive caught bass in cold and very hot conditions out of holiday park by far the favorite temp is 85 degrees plus or minus a couple.Those afternoon rains will make them more likely to feed at night when its nice and calm as well.
dannymartin66 3 years ago
Hey again. WAt would u say would be the best lure for dormant bass in heavy cover. im fishin a lake and theres a bass atleast 10lb+ jus hiding in the heavy grass and he jus wont budge.wat would be the best lure.
Heavy Cover
Dormant
is it a frog??
rcdriftr08 3 years ago
The frog is a good lure for the grass. Try the Gambler cane toad, horny toad or even the spro frog. Throw a big 14" worm at it also texas rigged weedless. .
smcdonald86 3 years ago
id be afraid of an alligator coming out after the fish .looks like some good fishing tho
joedinaadi 3 years ago
Hey. Im not The best with baitcast reels and ugh i need to know wats the best way to like stop the birds nest and how to better my accuracy and persistancy in the way i cast thx
rcdriftr08 3 years ago
Practice, practice...sounds like me with a fly rod...try adjusting the spool magnets as well as the brake for the spool. If you drop the lure that you are throwing it should hit the ground and not backlash. Thats when you know it is set right. Once you get the hang of it you can loosen both settings up for longer and longer casts. You can always feather the spool with your thumb for better control.
smcdonald86 3 years ago
Hey how are you can you tell me what worms are best for peacocks in the cutler ridge/bay area.thanks
JocisaG 3 years ago
peacockc seldom hit soft plastic baits. I have caught a few on a fluke but that is about it. Try the small Rapala x-raps in colors gold or clown. Make sure that you work them reakl fast. The peacocks weill also eat a chartreuse chatterbait whch is a lot of fun to fish. Dont forget topwater also...chug bugs, torpedos, spooks etc...will work well for the peacocks.
Good luck!
Steve
smcdonald86 3 years ago