Obama's vision for Pakistan

[Tahirmasoud]

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[laluprasad111]

I am a pakistani....I feel ashamed of my Pak Leaders....

[peacemaker50cal]

Thumbs up if RELLAMA1 Is pissing you off and you wont that fuck to drop dead!!!!

[peacemaker50cal]

This fucker RELLAMA1 is ever where leaving these fucked up comments! This fuck gets a kick out of pissing people off

[rellama1]

@peacemaker50cal sure why not, i enjoy it, you cant read anyway, you are the fucked up one, stop eating macs and drinking this shitty coffee, starbucks hehe

what a miserable black sauce this is, John Wayne would nt have even extinguished the campfire with that shit,

[214truema]

finaly real news

[rellama1]

India has no leverage against China, Thats a dream, Obamas dream, Just like georgia has no leverage on Russia, They were smashed in just 1 week, Russia and China wont allow the US go gain a foothold on its borders, The Ukraine is not going to join Nato, Russia made sure of that. But i dont mind if a billion ppl perish, the world is too crowded, If that is what India wants, so be it

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 hahahah u are comparing India & China to Georgia and Russia....lol...what a douche are u India is the only country in the world that can match China or give it a run for money...by 2013 India will overtake China in growth rate..India has the third largest armed forces in the world loaded with nuclear weapons. China is internally vulnerable and is slowin down...forget China smashing anybody...India can smash China easily the moment it will try to assert in Indian ocean.

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher dream on, China will defeat India as it has done before and always will, they are a militaristic nation, they are smart, Indians dont have what it takes on a large scale believe me,

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 hahahah china will defeat India....china is screwed, just coz their media is a Communist mouth piece u dont get to hear that....they are screwed in Tibet, in Xingiang...they are surrounded by Anti Chinese Japan, South Korea, Vietnam...plus they are feeling public resentment for democracy

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher wishful thinking , dream on

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher India has one big problem, the maoists are rolling up the country, There will be civil war. the caste system is outdated, ##and China has

a lot more money,

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 and maoist are rolling??? dude they are dying..just go and search "operation greenhunt".....Civil war in India is less possible than China....china ....china is more prone to be a failed state than India....by 2013 India will overtake CHina in growth....chinese economy's growth is slowing down...countries like Vietnam, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan are closer to India...not to forget Russia which has its own rivalry with China and is closer to India...Tibet, Xingiang are other cases

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher yes just like this indian rocket that never made it off the ground.

all wishful thinking, India has no oil or other resources, Poverty rages. How are they going to buy it all in case of war? Most indians live in the vilages , and there superstition reigns, stone age, no human rights, the village chiefs decide it all, oh wait, members of the higher castes, There is so much potential for civil war and rightly so, This fake democracy, the inhuman system must come down at all cost

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 hahaah wat are u let me guess a dirty paki...India is much more progressive than any shitty muslim country ....i think these all figures are about China

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher not likely as stupid as them hindus, They built the bomb on their own right, Hey another nuclear power against India, Pakistan, they re gonna laugh their heads off when u go to war with China, They d grab your land,

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 hahaah what a fucked up impotent dick u are...wat are u son of abraham shit...pakistan...last time i checked it was in perils...on the verge of a collapse...u r a chinese ass licking loser who doesnt have any idea of what happening in the world...just three nukes and pakistan will be gone(not to forget its already on its way for balkanization)...those pigs will grab our land...those assholes pee thei pants steel their social security money to buy weapons(still 1/8 of us)... huh!! loser

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher last time i checked there was 9/11. fuckwit

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher now ure getting really upset right, so much for your democracy,

atrocities against the massses. who is keeping 800 million ppl in poverty? yu ppl blame everything on colonialism, All others are at fault just not you right? Pakistan has a lot of smart ppl, Course they re dirty because they dont let India take Kashmir,

i can understand your frustration,

[peacemaker50cal]

@rellama1 LOL You tell me how every body is against me and my country, it seems to me like your alone on this website! You seem to be the hated one,

[rellama1]

@peacemaker50cal dickwit, this is abt pakistan, And India, And u suckhole arent gonna stop me from commenting, this is not the US where you get thrown to jail

if voicing an opinion, yu have no say,

[rellama1]

@ThePseudoBasher the upper echelon must be attacked and removed in India, Time is right for revolution, Those high priests of superstition and brainwash must be thrown out of the windows, Indians rise against your tormentors, You only have one life, Use it, Get rid of the parasites,

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 yeah time is good for revolution and communist party should be removed who is commiting atrocities against masses...those communist lunatics must be thrown out of the windows, Chinese rise against your tormentors, You only have one life, Use it, Get rid of the parasites,

[amitrock21]

yeah real news is just taking role in breaking the people of india and pakistan based on religion..right hindus , muslim and buddhist right...

india pakistan and china

[fah369]

Indians are a piece of fucking pagan shit on this whole planet.They got the fucking media besides them doing the propaganda just because INDIA is a fucking pussy.All the Indians don't know about themselves is that they also got a war on terror in their own country.The Maoist's are fucking them apart and they cant show the world how weak they are from inside.Fuck India, we don't want their friendship.

[pogularocky]

lol... when did the maoists succeed in bombing an Indian city 7 times in one day?

don't even compare taleban to naxals. 38 naxals died in last 1 week while only one soldier got wounded in the process. Can you boast of such progress in your country today?

You porkis are paying for your mistakes. Allah has left kaffir porkistan behind to burn.

[fah369]

@pogularocky Yeah but Fucking India was frozen to hell by 12 fucking teenagers lolx even Indian military called Israel to take care of them.Now what's that supposed to be called oh i got its called a FUCKED UP STATE.You guys can take your progress in your arse because killing maoist or other rebels would only boast their morale.There are a lot of seperatists movements going in India too so just take a look on your news.

[pogularocky]

lol.. big words from a small pussy... Israel was called by ur own pussy teenagers to negotiate jewish hostages... lol... pussies were all shot in their asses and bodies were dragged out like dogs... lol... look how whole of Pakistan is being bombed for one incident in Mumbai... u guys underestimated India's patience... u r paying now... hhaahaha... good luck porki...

[slayyyyn]

yeh pakistanis do give muslims a bad name and dey dont even know it.

[zo0mmax]

slayyyyn

who r u and what do u mean?

[t1mo1hy]

clear bias.

[t1mo1hy]

what are some ways that musharif can start believing in Alah and pick the right side and start fighting the taliban.

[kizmit2012]

Do you think your children deserve your and your fathers and grandfathers and great grandfathers mistakes to be gifted to them?

If you discard your false pride and false ego for a moment what does the voice inside you speak quietly and clearly to you?

The past of all humans is drenched in shame.

The future is the result of your imagination!

Imagine ♥

[heartzmechanic]

hey ounjabi dont talk like that... we need unity...

[SamO4rmWestHtwn]

the middleast is fukked up they always have problems....I say we should just FUCK YALL JUST DONT FUCK WITH AMERICA and when they fuck with us DEN WE FUK DEM UP

[kunalkandaa]

Why is everyone given so radical and communal comments? Why can't you guys see human beings in one light.

World is far from getting mature

[BCAlison]

@kunalkandaa The world was immature already. We're just discovering it thanks to YouTube.

[punjabitype]

go fuck yourselves back to afghanistan. you're ruining pakistan. and stop this obsession with the indians. they're ADVANCING. they love their country, and all i hear in any pakistani chant is "la illaha illallah". that's bullshit. pakistani army CANNOT defeat the indian army. not because indians are better human beings, but because they have more fire power and greater numbers.

go live in your fucking caves and get the fuck out of pakistan you fucking rats.

[TWI08]

Afghans don't live in "pakistan" fool, they live in Afghan terrirtories. just because you had your british bosses make invisible lines and call it "pakistan" does not mean you have any right over terrirtories that have been the homes of afghans or buluchis or kalash or indians. you punjabis are the ones that are tresspassing all over peoples homes. maybe the british will let you live in london because in the region everyone hates you double dealers.

[TWI08]

are you fucking stupid? Taliban is the proxy army of pakistan. Why would pakistan fight their own army?

[TWI08]

pakistan should be a punjabi state. why do you force so many minorities to be part of this fake nation when they despise the punjabi majority? pakistan is situated on stolen lands and forcibly rules over people who want no part in it. return the bulochi pashtun kalash territories and all the others to their rightful owners and establish a punaji state in your own lands.

[punjabitype]

soulmate????

i am hardcore punjabi. i think the worst thing that ever happened to South Asia was the split of Punjab. pakistan is a false state. it should just be Punjab.

[AfghanTVs]

pakistan is a disease like israel.

[ameer2109]

Lol,Usa attacking pakistan?What a joke,that will be the worst thing USA can ever thing off.Pakistan is no ordinary country.The taliban and Al-qaeda is enough to destabalise iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan just have to equip these 2 organisations with weapons.Please USA,go and solve your economic crisis first before firing a bullet..

[royaltanha]

i am as an Afghan really happy that the government of Afghanistan supports the US in invading n destroying Porkistan.The biggest enemy of Afghanistan is Pakistan n this country has no right to exist anymore on the world map.Everyone knows that its now the turn of Porkistan.Porkistan is a big threat to the world cause they support terrorism n terrorists.Oh iam waiting for the day when we (afghan)invade fucking porkistan.we will fuck every woman,man, and even the fucking kids.Zindabad Afghanistan

[amfmahma]

i can see hatered in u. u go and die by hunger. u mother selling afghan

[majidkhan24]

forgive me my brother to say this, but you seem to be totally out of touch with the facts on the field. Well why do want to wipe pakistan out of the map of the world??? And about pakistani women are you taking revenge for afghani gilam jam hookers in peshawar pakistan????? I am just curious if you are frustrated or don't know whats going on in the region right now. And whats up with calling pakistan, porkistan. are you a muslim? please refrain from profanity and promote a dialogue?

[royaltanha]

Why i want to wipe out Porkistan?cause Pakistan is a terrorist state n your ISI has always supported the terrorism in the region.Secondly ,we afghans wanna have back our cities like Peshawore, quetta,Sinde.The durand line is expired so we wanna have our land back.Why i call Pakistan ,porkistan cause you people are not muslims n if you go n ask your dad about your grand parents so he will say an indian name like kapoor or singh!!Yes, Alhamdulelah i am muslim but not like you.read part 2 too.

[punjabitype]

please, take peshawar and rule with your cave-mentalities. no one wants it. just keep your perverted, insane, dirty, and murderous fuckfaces out of Punjab.

[TWI08]

oh you mean that "cave mentality" you punjabis cooked up with your arab friends and imported all over the region? the one that is now threatening to destroy your own state? why don't you keep it and maybe your arab friends who you take money from to set up their madrasahs in your country can keep it too. "pakistan" should be reduced to a punjabi state situated only on punjabi terrirtores, which is a fraction of curerent pakistan

[royaltanha]

Par 2 for you mr.Porki Majidkahan 24:

The only solution to have the world calm n in peace is to get rid of Terrorism n the foundation of terrorism exists in Porkistan.if we want to get rid of terrorism so we have to wipe out Porkistan n divided into two pieces one for India n one for Afghanistan.Porkistan has an atomic power n the government is very very weak and soon the taliban or terrorists will take over n it will be the beggining of the 3 world war.Zindabad Afghanistan ,Murdabad Porkistan

[majidkhan24]

Mr. Royaltanha.

My incestory traces its roots to arabs not hindus. Secondly you talk like a kid in junior high. Further More i Am a pathan from sarhad. It will take a ppl of you billions of years to take cities like peshawar, and quetta from brave Pasthuns. As far is pakistan is concerned we have very friendly with afganistan. we house 5 million refugee in peshawar. So next time We will not make the mistake of befriending afghanis. We will change the name of afghanistan and call it pakistan.

[majidkhan24]

no one has good ties with you. in the region except india. No one looks at afghanis with respect. Man look at your existence. Buddy you are Mad because of your currect situation. I totally understand that you want to make changes but you are frustrated at the rate of the changes. and are sacred of the rise of taliban again. because of the Afghan government writ existing only in kabul and qandhar cities. Don't worry pretty soon you will have your beard grown again. and your asses fucked.

[BillaLahoria]

oyaltanha is an hindu bastard belongs to khutistan - good hindu is dead hindu - if we dont live inpeace then i belive india will be invaded or nucleared that the only soloution. we fucked india before this time we will do good job. clean them up

[akshatwarm]

a gud mulsim is dat mulsim whose not a pakistani lol coz pakistanis gives muslims a bad name

[pogularocky]

BillaLahoria

Are you from La-Whore?

LMFAO

I am sure you are a Whoristani

lol

Anyways, I hope you survived the 7 blasts. There are more to come. Be careful buddy.

[captainjohann]

This Professor is saying stop the drone attacks,involve the Kashmiries(whome we support covertly),make the INDIANS DO real estate gift to pakistan because we lost our eastern part and also going to loose balochistan,FATA,wazirstan while wehave lost SWAT.

oFCOURSE WE WILL KILL PALESTIANIANS,aFGHANS AND OTHERS IF USA GIVES F16S AND OTHER ARMS TO Pakistani army as we have been doing all along

[majidkhan24]

well swat is back with pakistan. Its beacause of diplomacy. and so will be the rest of pakistan. wats your plan my brother for your future? I would solve my internal problems before I teach how to solve there problems.

[asar8811]

these eastern world nerver allow us to move forward because they have a fear from muslims.....that the main reason they are making us fool.....

[genial1978]

We Pakistanis are fighting with Alqeda and Taliban. Let Obama know if you dare think of attacking Pakistan for whatsoever..we are here 170 million people ready to teach you the lesson history will never forget..

[pwrpaki]

who the hell said any thing about obama attacking pakistan?

[aik1ng]

You my friend are oblivious. Pakistan is next on the list. Pakistan is just in the wrong place at the wrong time. The US needs presence in that region there are 2 powers emerging. And US can not stand that, that is why you will never see stable Pakistan. A stable Pakistan means stability in the region and the US will no longer have any influence.

[pwrpaki]

Other than speculation do you have any real proof? Us Pakis need to get away from this every ones out to get us mind set. They wouldnt be droppin missiles on our soil if we could stop the cross border incursions (weather right or wrong) which we CAN stop. The Millitary/ISI make a decision, and we have to live with the consequences. As for a stable regime, US fears nothing more than a rogue moron with a nuke. An unstable Pak is more likely to loose control over them. Dont see how that would work.

[aik1ng]

Look at Balochistan, its falling part, these attacks that occur in quetta and surrounding areas, have roots to internal differences but also have external factors. For example, why does India need 17 or so embassies in a country where no Indian would dare to go? Also, a stable balochistan means, the Gwadar port will develop to its full potential, but that wont happen as long as Dubai has something say. Think of it, Dubai would die, without its port. Can not trust Arabs, biggest sell outs.

[pogularocky]

Everyone does what is needed for their survival. What do you want the arabs to do? Donate more money to Pakistan for development as if the $20 Billion that US gave it over the past 9 years are not enough? Or maybe China will help you develop... Where communism advocate "No Religion" and kills Uighur Muslims who are fighting for religious freedom... And Pakistan goes and calls them friends. Awesome!

[pogularocky]

@pwrpaki

Do you really think US is worried about Pakistan's nuclear arsenal?

Nuclear arsenal is useless without an ICBM that can carry it to USA. Pakistan does not have it. Who will you attack with that pile of nuclear bombs that can't be carried beyond 2000 miles? Pakistani army built all their strength with India in mind. US knows that you are helpless against them. Why do you think the paki army is killing its own Taleban brothers that they trained and funded for 20 years? Helplessness.

[fah369]

@pogularocky Well you don't know because now the US is also helping us and we can never think of fighting with the world power.We just made these missles for a biggest pussy in world that has a range covering it all and can take it out in 8 mins like a cock.

[imranutube]

Screw Obama. He is just like Bush or even worst. A house negro like Malcom X say, out there to please his white masters "stablishment". NO change.

[hasang20]

you guyz have no fking idea Pakistans GUN market makes weapons wit thier own hand india is going to pussy out and you want a war wit Pakistan Nuclear WarHead wit US please Nuke US scums of the earth Pakistan + China + Russia + Iran + Turkey = Epic Fail for NATO US cant FKING WIN a war in Afganistan geez you US people are so unicor stupid gtfo pussies.

[2Cloud5]

Dont say you US people, because I dont have anything to do with these assholes.

[MaIcolmX]

Wow? Now india has been attacked and Obama will have a excuse to go to Pakistan.

I knew Obama was a uncle-tom house negro

[harshid4india]

who cares about pakistan. i think that the united states shouldnt even invade them...we should just leave them alone and let them die on their own.

[MediaBrainwash]

intelligent comment!

Maybe we should NUKE India as well? I mean who cares about India?

[LoneDerangerer]

the USA needs India of course....it needs it as leverage against China's growing threat.

[rellama1]

@LoneDerangerer India is facing the maoists, internally, India is torn by ethnic groups and weak leadership,

[ThePseudoBasher]

@rellama1 no its not....who told u that....India doesnt have ethnic problems....who told u that...only ethnic problem India is facing is in Kashmir and that too coz its a muslim population in Kashmir....go check the failed state rating India is better than China

[ThePseudoBasher]

@LoneDerangerer of course US needs India, to sail its sinking ship

[LoneDerangerer]

This professor is pakistani and therefore cannot be objective.

The muslims attacked and killed and chased most of the hindus out of the state in the 1990s...therefore leaving a greater muslim majority.

This is why this professor says that a decision should involve the kashmiri people. Biased view of course.

[auamoti]

you interview someone to get THEIR opinion?

who knows, thx for the historical note

[roger077]

very much biased view.....

he is just trying to divert the matter to other issues of pakistan's intrest. they don't want to do any thing, In the end THEY JUST WANT MONEY FROM UNITED STATES.

[waacs]

You are American, same as I, how can you be objective? that is a rather ignorant comment don't you think??

I mean really, we should just go in there, kill them all, and take over the land for ourselves. What is the point in listening to what they have to say right?

[LoneDerangerer]

10 Billion dollars paid to pakistan by the USA since this phony war on terror started.

The pakis are still harbouring terror camps and the USA is still finding this. What the fuck!

[MaIcolmX]

Wrong!

Usa have got ten times more money from Pakistan because they rent they country for 6years. They also have Pakistan troops fighting they fight. Pakistan country, troops, citizens have been killled because pakistan 'goverment' supoort usa. The public of Pakistan hate usa. In anger, the public caused many destructions in the country to stop pakistan goverment in supporting usa. Instead the Pakisatn: police, army shot at they public etc.

[miansalmanlive]

Pakistan is actually fighting the US war at home.The reason behind giving Pakistan money by Bush admin because the Afghan war and war at FATA by Pakistan is costing Pakistan in great deal economically and socially.Pakistan have deployed more army in afghan border then NATO/American forces combined.If they don't keep there part safe what they expect from Pakistan?.If they were accurate enough to target what they say taliban leaders rather then children then Pak army would not suffer the pressure.

[yunnes09]

when is fighting with us or india turkey iran gonna join us

[MaIcolmX]

If usa spends 150billion every year on wars, then how much would Pakistan have spend in the last 6-7years?

If usa gave Pakisatn 10 billion, that no where near enough, have a think about it!

Pakistan itself is collapsing because of this war.

[TheGoodnessIsGood]

I love the symbolisms. Generally Betray us, Barak Iraq. Osama Obama. Biden Bin Laden. George Bush. Orge Bush. Dick Chainey. Soddam(y) Hussein. The PentaCon is PentaGONE.. The twin Towers of babylon... Are these elites who place these people just f**king with our minds OR WHAT!? Or is it just "synchronicity" (lol).

[ehunter2]

Obama has NO business outsid of the "community

organizing". He is a cheap Chicago race baiting scam artist. A fraud with a TV personality.

[nikolai1uno]

HELL YEAH

[nikolai1uno]

hell Yeah... well said

[300ZXturboXX]

if it was up to me Pakistan India and Bangladesh would be all one country. And to gether they would be avery strong and rich country. But its not up to me......!

[knnan]

Tariq Amin Khan is a pro-pakistani, devoid of objectivity, basically says that leave Pakistan to itself and Taliban to itself....let Taliban not be pounded and no one be it....then will Tariq resolve those fundamentalists who kill innocent in the world over....he is anti american, anti indian and pro islamic...

[samudra8O]

This division of these countries based on religion is quite stupid. After the so called religious division, India still harbors the second largest muslim population in the world and has even more muslims than Pakistan. Now another division of India will not be acceptable in India atleast. I guess Obama's solution will be defacto permanent border at the line of control, which should be acceptable to India.

[ludy39]

I agree we need a real 911 investigation before anything

[thoku4u]

what they need to do is investigate 911 first before OPEN their mouth on pakistan, afghanistan or iraq.

[random0815]

hmm the way obama handles it is not very promising indeed, it seems to be marked by the typical reckless ignorance and incompetence we know from american interventionism, im afraid obama is more concerned with profile and the appearance of effective politics than with principle and actual realities - at least in matters of foreign policy

[IskenderKebabi]

Afghan war can not be won, US simply doesn't get it, Taliban is supported by Pakistan's tribals , Taliban will eventually return to Afghanistan, this is unavoidable

[ferrariModenas]

Afghan war is unwinnable, there are 20 million nut case hard core radical islamists in the region, forget it.

[NPegasus]

I think too much is read into the appointment of Bruce Riedel. Even before Obama takes the office the speculations of a potential Pakistan policy are flying.

[0613162k]

On meet the press during Obama's foreign policy experience trip, Obama said that they needed more troops in Pakistan to focus on defeating the Taliban, but that the problem was that they were preoccupied fighting with India.

I was nervous then that he was going to interfere with their conflict in Kasmir where US interfearing in a conflict similar to Israel- Palestine would cause chaos.

It's up to the people in Kashmir to decide. Imagine if another country interfeared in the US civil war.

[NPegasus]

The US wants Pakistan to focus on its Western (Pak-Afghan) border. This strategy has a bi-partisan support. It seems the Pakistani military is using the Kashmir (or India) bogey to mask its failures in fighting the Taliban. Or, they may want more money from the US in return for patrolling the borders.

So far no one is saying that the US will be actively involved in resolving Kashmir. Let the Indians, the Pakistanis and the Kashmiris sort out their problems through the ongoing peace process.

[0613162k]

It's not up to the Pakistan military or NATO nations to fight the Us pointless war on terror.

[NPegasus]

Unlike the NATO troops, the US troops that are deployed on the front lines in Afghanistan. Consequently, NATO's involvement in Afghanistan, though important, is relatively limited.

Pakistan is past the point where it can ignore that this is not its war; especially after glaring evidences of sanctuaries of terror thriving on its soil. At least Mr. Zardari does not loose an opportunity to remind the world that Pakistan is fighting its own war on terror (and not that of the US).

[thoku4u]

Why US is so invovled in IRAN-ISRAEL problem? let them sort it out too then?? any ideas!!

[NPegasus]

Different folks need different strokes. Pakistan is not Iran. Consequently, drawing parallels will be foolish.

Besides, the topic under discussion is Pakistan. If you have anything to say about "Iran-Israel" there are other places to express your views.

[thoku4u]

I was replying to someone else's comment. didn't ask u to jump in.

[NPegasus]

Please decide whose comment you want to reply.  You replied to my comment not to someone other.

[thoku4u]

if that was you then u should know what u typed earlier..u were talking about leaving kashmir issue alone US has no interest blah blah?? if that was u then yup this comment was for u. and If you r a zionist JEW then don't even bother replying.

[NPegasus]

Please do not respond to me again. First, you are not certain to whom are you responding. Second, when you manage to put sentences together you write about something totally different that what is being discussed. Third, you spew religious hatred when it is uncalled for.

Only on youtube one can run in to unthinkable characters Adios!

[666Qtip666]

yeah here is an idea. if they want to duke it out let them fuckem.

[mootchell]

If they were to "duke it out" then Pakistan's troops would be quite busy, right? And.. Why would you want a war?

[666Qtip666]

other countries did indirectly interfere in the US Civil War. The British Empire was supporting the South with guns and munitions. because the Brits wanted the US's republic to fail to bring legitimacy to there tyranny and oppression.

[0613162k]

I agree. But that is exactly what American led imperilism is doing right now in intervening in other countries to create chaos to legitimise their intervention and occupation under the pretense of "spreading democracy". Alll to benifit the war profiteer military & oil industries.

If the intentoin of spreading democracy was genuine the 1st priority would be to stop their own citizens being disenfranchised in areas like Puerto Rico that aren't allowed to vote for their own US President.

[666Qtip666]

well i agree with you on the first part. HOWEVER if i was a Puerto Rican the last thing i would want would be to be apart of the US. I would vote for independence. the Island nation of puerto rico would be better off without the US federal government raping the people of there taxes. and same goes with all the already existing states of the US. although if the federal government were abiding by the constitution it would be a different story. but quiet simply its not and it wont any time soon.

[abarzilai664]

Does Obama still harbour designs to invade the Northwest Tribal region?

[simply2ghetto]

If he wants to bankrupt the country.

[audadvnc]

It's becoming ever more clear that Obama sold us a bill of goods in order to get elected. His attitude seems to be resembling the smart-guy arrogance of Robert McNamara's days. We're sick of dumb chimps in the White House; why is our only option having a Harvard establishment yes-man?

[DeAnte85]

"why is our only option having a Harvard establishment yes-man?"

It isn't. He had the choices offered by Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, Barr, Kucinich, Nader and others.

America rejected all of those candidates. Harvard establishment yes-men are all America is interested in, apparently.

[koolDeception]

Rain of dollars blinded the view.

[0613162k]

Exactly right DeAnte85.

People have to realise that as far as Obama's concerned he told them before even Bush, Hillary , Biden Dodd & other militarist candidates that he belived he unilteral attack on Pakistan to defeat the Taliban without Pakistan's consent if nessecary. He advocated increasing troops to Afghanistan showing he believed in the war on terror that was unpopular under Bush.

He had an artful way of making the same war sound friendly and the people mandated it eith their vote.

[0613162k]

...continued

The most important thing that people have to realise is what you highlighted, that most voters had a CHOICE of candidates of 6+ candidates that were against US war & occupation, for cutting excessive military spending causing deficit, against corporate bailouts at taxpayers expense (NAder, Kucinih, McKinney, Ron Paul, Gravel, Barr & Baldwin).

HAving said that. If they organise a massive anti war movement to pressure a candidate who is more open to listening the war can end.

[teemuruskeepaa]

The title is ridiculous. Obama doesn't have a vision for Pakistan and he doesn't even have vision for everything. He just a politician of one country of about 170 other countries. Stop calling him the hero of the world.

[AustinGerassimos]

i think if u watch a little more of the real news you'll realise that these guys are much more critical of obama than most... and don't give amaerica the privelidges status most news outlets do. seriously.

[teemuruskeepaa]

Not only is Obama not the hero of the world, neither is the TRNN channel the best source of information. Don't let other people present you the information by which you live. Get it yourself and decide yourself what evidence is true.

[Staubdumm]

Can you please show me where they depict Obama as a hero?

Oh, and Obama is a president of one of the 170 countries, but the president of the most powerful and rich country. His position is very influencial to politics in other countries.

Yea, TRNN is an alternative to mainstream media. You can check how the mainstream media and member-based media deals about the same topics differently. That's a very important step to find afterwards the "right perspective".

[teemuruskeepaa]

They depict Obama as a hero by simply making stories about nobody else and also by talking about only Obama's vision and his plans. O you pathetic ideologically brainwashed consumer

[Staubdumm]

I think the claim that they are gloryfying Obama in any sense is silly. You can say "Obama as the president hasn't much to say, the military-industrial complex has more power" then I may agree and say "TRNN, don't focus on him to much!".

But you haven't give any evidence that they did depict him as a hero. When they reported so much about Bush, were they pro-Bush?

Please be rational.

[teemuruskeepaa]

I find it disturbing rationally, that you demand evidence and with the lack of it, you denounce my claim about what TRNN is not showing. My evidence is plain to see in every video. TRNN is autocratic and biased and you demand evidence on petty details and single terms I've used. Journalism is a mass production industry, which is produced by the few for their benefit, and it is thus the anti-thesis for evidence and reason. Is this too round for you? It doesn't have to be any more detailed.

[Staubdumm]

Underlying accusations with evidence has nothing to do with going into details. Especially when you claim that the evidence is omnipresent; then its not hard to give it. Why still refusing? I am not harsh with you. I only expect evidence for accusations.

If the evidence is too long, send me a message. You can still do a structural critic of the media, thats fine (like "manifacturing consent"). I personally suspect that you have no evidence and try to escape.

[AustinGerassimos]

i didn't say it was the best... but u seemed to think they loved obama... which i don't think you would if u had watched more of their videos. Didn't say the best surce of news out there, nothing of the sort.

Peace.

[teemuruskeepaa]

By deciding that any autocratic news channel is good enough for you, you give up your will and ability to reason, fool

[random0815]

well teemurus you obviously dont know TRNN, but the title striked me as ironic as well (i think its ment that way ;) ), that an american president has to have a vision for pakistan is ironic indeed

[aquamammal]

Real News~!

Excellent coverage. Thanks.

[666Qtip666]

yeah i agree. they have an obvious socialist bias but everyone has an opinion and its bound to show through in the way the cover stories. what i hope is that a Libertarian news outlet follows the real news's financing format. to provide an alternate view. but very good none the less. the world was in dire need of something like this.