well this guide is very good but this is PvE guide some ppl like me need PvP guides so do both in these videos in pvp you need soul leech :) yo shoulda named it World of Warcraft: Destruction Warlock Guide, Patch 3.3.5 PvE
Sure raid dont need more mana regen but warlock does ... so no improved soul leech 2/2 is bigger dps loss then idk 3% crit rate for example.And life tap glyph is bullsh wich is good for affli or demo but defenetly not destro. And why not being hit caped by stats without suppresion while almost all DPS caster drops in ICC have hit rate.
Well, if you like spiky RNG ticks from immolate and not the nice static spellpower on glyph of immolate, be my guest. If you like losing DPS because you don't know how to calculate spell power vs percentage of damage done, be my guest.
Honestly, I think I said something like that in there.
@Rhoxio And if you couldnt calculate how much you lose from life taping instead of another dps spell be my guest. 1 Life Tap is 1 incinerate on backdraft.
1.) I have around 270 spirit unbuffed,so is it still good to take glyph of life tap of imollate glyph?
2.)i dont have any piece of equipment that has +5 bonus spellpower i only have +7 and +9 socket bonuss spellpowers,so is it still good idea to replace dreadstones with spirit with runed cardinal rubies?
@sonic43073160 Just follow the stat guide in the video. You need to be able to work your own gear around. The BiS gear for 3.3.5 was mostly all ICC 25 Heroic gear.
I like to use Corruption as an extra dps dot in raids, and I don't understand why glymph of life tap help me with demonic aegis to increase my spell power?!?
Thanks man,i never really paid much attention to the gems.Also does the I'm using Glyph of Conflagurate,Incinerate and Chaos bolt(reduced the cd by 2sec).The life tap does get you more dps but in the end i think that the faster chaos bolt adds up more dmg in the end no?Can you pm me and confirm if It's ok to use chaos bolt over life tap(I'm a pvp lock so i guess that the dps boost from life tap isn't as important as burst dmg((faster chaos bolt=more dmg,faster kill)) from chaos bolt.
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
@suprise1969 wow did you even watch the video? he covered this. with 3/3 supression it gives you 3% hit. so 17% - 3% = 14%. so all you need is 14%. if you raid with a boomkin or shadow priest you only need 11% hit cuz they give you another 3%.
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
11% hit as a Destruction with an owl and a shadow in the raid? Thats wrong. Both of the buffs dont stack. As a destruction without suppression skilled you'll need 13% hit as an ally. 13% + ImpFairyfire and the draenei aura is 17%. 14% with a horde warlock.
Nicely explained. I have a Destruction Warlock alt I play with once in a while. I also posted up a video of my rotation if you'd like to rate and comment.
It's pretty much Lifetap > CoE > Immolate > Chaos Bolt > Conflagrate > Incinerate and then transition into the priority system as you explained.
thanks for your vid. i dual-speced my warlock so i could roll solo with a fel guard. BUT i have never really understood how to get the improved dps on other specs, like destruction. i will give your ideas a shot. i love my toon already, sounds like this may take that to the next lvl.
Thanks for making this man, I've been away from my 80 lock for well over a year and this was a nice concise overview of what's going on in 3.3.5 and I don't think I could have prepped myself any better in 7:24 of looking at the forums etc... lol
Just your gem suggestions alone brought me about 150 sp. I also like how you use the term "priority queue" as the idea of a rotation never sounded right to me. Things change, locks are dynamic, cookie cutter is boring, etc
erm, most important stat onyour gear is hit, then the rest. Spirit aint much use for lock either. Best idea is to go for non spirit gear and stack the hast/crit instead
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@strigen Its all relative. I keep it up at all times because the extra spell power makes those moves hit a bit harder. + however much spell power on immolate will makes the ticks do more for that application, so probably before immolate if nothing else.
"Don't be an idiot like me and forget Life Tap." LOL. Done that. Or better yet, get killed and can't rez bcse you let your soul stone lapse.
I use rain of fire alot on mobs, that seems to work well, especially in dungons. But I don't understand why he doesn't use the succubus, she does amazing damage in PVP.
@Supervillain725 well imo this is for pve, i never use imp in pvp only void/succubus, i rather have 10k dmg absorb or other cc then little more dmg, srsly if u go arena with your imp you'll be laughed out from the arena, succubus is essential for cc'ing and i am aware that it shares dim with fear but you in 2v2 you can use fear on the target and let succubus "spam" seduction on the other one, with a correct macro you just have to click it (not accually click but anyway) and you can keep dpsing
Due to the fact that Immolate (DoT) is capable of critical hitting, it's better to get Glyph of Immolate and equal haste to critical strike chance when choosing gear, but not when gemming.
@MrIsowin What glyph would you replace to get glyph of immolate? The other glyphs are much more dps friendly and allow for so much more damage output.
TL;DR, Glyph of Immolate isnt very good for your standard warlock.
@MrIsowin i agree with you its too much to even waste the time to click life tap untill the later portions of the fight and a extra 100 sp wouldnt do that much at higher gear lvls say 5700-6kgs when sp isnt and issue 3.5k-4k glyph of immo is the way to go
@TheDeathwissh In reality, it boils down to calculating your spirit and seeing if the spell power gained by GoLT outweighs the dps output of glyph of immo.
Everyones gear is different. I could argue all day about this, but in 90% of calculations, Glyph of Life Tap comes out on top.
@TheDeathwissh Then you know that ICC gear doesnt have much spirit on it. Hence, Glyph of Life Tap is useless once you get down to a certain point. Anyone who can read can deduce this.
Aside from that, if you really are pulling 14-16k consistently, then you don't really need a guide. You know what you are doing and you have optimized your gear accordingly. This is the setup that works for people who have less than heroic icc 25m gear. End of story.
@MrIsowin i agree with you its too much to even waste the time to click life tap untill the later portions of the fight and a extra 100 sp wouldnt do that much at higher gear lvls say 5700-6kgs when sp isnt and issue 3.5k-4k glyph of immo is the way to go
Rotation Kinda.. ehh.. i like to be able to use 3 Incenerates instead of having to use one of my procs for my Chaos Bolt.. Try this rotation. Curse>Immolate>Chaos bolt>Conflagrate>then incenerate and repeat rotation.. Works really well for me.. :D
why do you use suppression in destro?: Suppression, a talent at the top of the affliction talent tree reduces your chance to miss with Affliction spells by 1% per talent point (up to 3/3 for 3%). Note, this only effects Affliction spells. Your Destruction and Demonology spells will be unaffected.
@omstealth No, it does not. Read the tooltip. It does NOT specifically say that it increases the chance to hit with affliction spells. Therefore, it is universal. If you dont believe me, go look on a theorycrafting website.
Very helpfull man thnx alot :D
devineultimate 1 week ago
omg i have more dps in my lock with full pvp items.... lol man....you are wrong talents and wrong glyps for this :D:D:D:D:D
blackout1988unit 3 months ago
@blackout1988unit make a vid
Supsup516 2 weeks ago
ty for all the info it help alot :) nice vid
001zaraki 4 months ago
noob guide
Juanpa00000000000007 5 months ago
well this guide is very good but this is PvE guide some ppl like me need PvP guides so do both in these videos in pvp you need soul leech :) yo shoulda named it World of Warcraft: Destruction Warlock Guide, Patch 3.3.5 PvE
MrProboyzz 6 months ago
People always telling me demo is the best pve spec. What u guys think?
lumipifeslb 6 months ago
thx u rock
but i can belive it that your incrinate is doing 16k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!now because of u im staring warlock
nitroguy979 6 months ago
we meet again 240p...
clauclaux 6 months ago
Nice video. It helped me a lot. Thanks
Rezoneish 7 months ago
this isnt that bad im complete noob warlock since i never play em but i listened to you and seems good i guess
xXObLiVioN1996Xx 7 months ago
urgh your skilltree -.-
MassPresence 7 months ago
which addons you downloaded for those actions bars ?
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estebanford19 8 months ago 3
Sure raid dont need more mana regen but warlock does ... so no improved soul leech 2/2 is bigger dps loss then idk 3% crit rate for example.And life tap glyph is bullsh wich is good for affli or demo but defenetly not destro. And why not being hit caped by stats without suppresion while almost all DPS caster drops in ICC have hit rate.
TechFreakNo1 8 months ago
@TechFreakNo1
Well, if you like spiky RNG ticks from immolate and not the nice static spellpower on glyph of immolate, be my guest. If you like losing DPS because you don't know how to calculate spell power vs percentage of damage done, be my guest.
Honestly, I think I said something like that in there.
Rhoxio 8 months ago
@Rhoxio Where can I find a good affliction pvp guide or talent build atleast? Hopefully with optimal action bar setup recommendation
Nightmare1066 8 months ago
@Rhoxio And if you couldnt calculate how much you lose from life taping instead of another dps spell be my guest. 1 Life Tap is 1 incinerate on backdraft.
TechFreakNo1 7 months ago
i don't like Destruccion PvE. For PvE i used Demonology :)
DediCacionn 8 months ago
Please don't speak so fast gahhh thumbs up if u agree
C00lzTylee 9 months ago
how to use soul Fire in this talent, i really wanna use it ^^
there is any idea to use soul fire in this rotation?
odasniper 9 months ago
wtf i never reach the hitcap!! why do u all reach this so easily...and HOW??
GermanHardstyler1 10 months ago
warlock bible = necronomicon?
Shadoweduar 10 months ago
I have 2 questions:
1.) I have around 270 spirit unbuffed,so is it still good to take glyph of life tap of imollate glyph?
2.)i dont have any piece of equipment that has +5 bonus spellpower i only have +7 and +9 socket bonuss spellpowers,so is it still good idea to replace dreadstones with spirit with runed cardinal rubies?
p.s.im playing on private server,just to know :)
burexasiromm 10 months ago
reupload it with better quality
Oho159 11 months ago 7
@Oho159 It was originally in 720p. YouTube decided to butcher the quality for some reason.
Rhoxio 11 months ago
should i use soul fire or shadow burn?
StantLord 1 year ago
I like, how do you managed the skill bar :)
tommeSVK 1 year ago
hey can you make a god guide for pvping with destro locks
Dontroll01 1 year ago
what`s the best gear for 3.3.5 warlocks? I couldn`t find a single guide for warlocks 3.3.5 ,all are for cataclysm.
sonic43073160 1 year ago
@sonic43073160 Just follow the stat guide in the video. You need to be able to work your own gear around. The BiS gear for 3.3.5 was mostly all ICC 25 Heroic gear.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
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sonic43073160 1 year ago
Very nice! Very informative and detailed guide, probably one of the best in youtube. Is there a chance that you would make a PvP guide :P ?
mariakas13 1 year ago
What is Shadowfury doing in your spec?
reishamajere 1 year ago
@reishamajere to CC adds in raids.
Anon41264 1 year ago
Cool,very helpfull
Skyll121 1 year ago
whats the pvp rotation
evok0999 1 year ago
@evok0999 There's no such thing as a pvp rotation. What you do in pvp is situational and based on yours and your opponents reactions.
Anon41264 1 year ago
I like to use Corruption as an extra dps dot in raids, and I don't understand why glymph of life tap help me with demonic aegis to increase my spell power?!?
Nice video!
pfcia 1 year ago
I'm a 5.5kgs destro lock, i'm doing 5.8k dps on heroic dummy. Is it good or bad? =/ please tell me.
wintersnoo 1 year ago
how could they make us pay to play
blackop847 1 year ago
i am new to WOW and i chose Warlock.. can you teach me how to use Warlock? Msn or anything?
1980AditzuMe 1 year ago
Thanks man,i never really paid much attention to the gems.Also does the I'm using Glyph of Conflagurate,Incinerate and Chaos bolt(reduced the cd by 2sec).The life tap does get you more dps but in the end i think that the faster chaos bolt adds up more dmg in the end no?Can you pm me and confirm if It's ok to use chaos bolt over life tap(I'm a pvp lock so i guess that the dps boost from life tap isn't as important as burst dmg((faster chaos bolt=more dmg,faster kill)) from chaos bolt.
Wizardi11 1 year ago
@Wizardi11 thats corect
milixp 1 year ago
Thanks ALOT :D this really helpt me :) have been struggeling to get my dps up but this really helpt me out :) thx man
Voffen12345 1 year ago
Thanks ALOT :D this really helpt me :) have been struggeling to get my dps up but this really helpt me out :( thx man
Voffen12345 1 year ago
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
suprise1969 1 year ago
@suprise1969 wow did you even watch the video? he covered this. with 3/3 supression it gives you 3% hit. so 17% - 3% = 14%. so all you need is 14%. if you raid with a boomkin or shadow priest you only need 11% hit cuz they give you another 3%.
Faeyted 1 year ago
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
suprise1969 1 year ago
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
suprise1969 1 year ago
Just to clarify this, In all red slots I want a runed cardinal ruby, yellow slots I want the haste/spellpow orange gem and purified dread in blue. Now, My big problem is hit. I should use hit gems in yellow slots to get to the cap correct? And if I have 3 points in suppression do I need to be at 18% hit? I read somewhere that since I have supp 3/3 I can be as low as 368 hit. TY for help.
suprise1969 1 year ago
11% hit as a Destruction with an owl and a shadow in the raid? Thats wrong. Both of the buffs dont stack. As a destruction without suppression skilled you'll need 13% hit as an ally. 13% + ImpFairyfire and the draenei aura is 17%. 14% with a horde warlock.
PhrozenKeep 1 year ago
Nicely explained. I have a Destruction Warlock alt I play with once in a while. I also posted up a video of my rotation if you'd like to rate and comment.
It's pretty much Lifetap > CoE > Immolate > Chaos Bolt > Conflagrate > Incinerate and then transition into the priority system as you explained.
Sammio327 1 year ago
Any advice for a leveling lock?
superflier0112 1 year ago
what addons do you use?
Outlaweevee 1 year ago
@Outlaweevee Bartender, Quartz, ForteXorcist Warlock, Grid, and a few other insignificant ones.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
@Outlaweevee dominos for there bars
StantLord 1 year ago
nice job very informative and helpful
bigalnlilred 1 year ago
why use Firestone instead of Spellstone?
Akenatsu94 1 year ago
@Akenatsu94
Firestone comes out as being slightly more dps than a spellstone, considering all of destructions spells minus immolate deal direct damage.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
@Rhoxio oh ^^
Akenatsu94 1 year ago
I have glyph of conflag, life tap, and chaos bolt. i was wondering if i need to drop one for incinerate?
Lolrolfstomp 1 year ago
@Lolrolfstomp Yes. Glyph of Incinerate does a lot more dps than chaos bolt.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
thanks for your vid. i dual-speced my warlock so i could roll solo with a fel guard. BUT i have never really understood how to get the improved dps on other specs, like destruction. i will give your ideas a shot. i love my toon already, sounds like this may take that to the next lvl.
iago68 1 year ago
Thanks for making this man, I've been away from my 80 lock for well over a year and this was a nice concise overview of what's going on in 3.3.5 and I don't think I could have prepped myself any better in 7:24 of looking at the forums etc... lol
Just your gem suggestions alone brought me about 150 sp. I also like how you use the term "priority queue" as the idea of a rotation never sounded right to me. Things change, locks are dynamic, cookie cutter is boring, etc
Cheers
schmoofadoop 1 year ago
@schmoofadoop Thanks for the positive feedback. It is rare on youtube that you get people actually appreciating your work.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
erm, most important stat onyour gear is hit, then the rest. Spirit aint much use for lock either. Best idea is to go for non spirit gear and stack the hast/crit instead
boosey34 1 year ago
@boosey34 DId you even watch the whole guide before commenting?
Rhoxio 1 year ago
@Rhoxio lol xD
Whaffel 1 year ago
great guide though, thank you for being thorough
ph0kused 1 year ago
god i wish it was better quality... cant see anything
ph0kused 1 year ago
i found destro hard to master untill i saw your guide, thanks :D
knerf999 1 year ago
Thx for the guide
rokas45 1 year ago
dude u rock!
MultiTubin 1 year ago
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isabelpsem 1 year ago
I was told that Glyph of Life Tap shouldn't be refreshed at the expense of Conflagrate, Chaos Bolt, Curse of Doom, or Immolate.
I could be wrong though.
strigen 1 year ago
@strigen Its all relative. I keep it up at all times because the extra spell power makes those moves hit a bit harder. + however much spell power on immolate will makes the ticks do more for that application, so probably before immolate if nothing else.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
"Don't be an idiot like me and forget Life Tap." LOL. Done that. Or better yet, get killed and can't rez bcse you let your soul stone lapse.
I use rain of fire alot on mobs, that seems to work well, especially in dungons. But I don't understand why he doesn't use the succubus, she does amazing damage in PVP.
Supervillain725 1 year ago
@Supervillain725 well imo this is for pve, i never use imp in pvp only void/succubus, i rather have 10k dmg absorb or other cc then little more dmg, srsly if u go arena with your imp you'll be laughed out from the arena, succubus is essential for cc'ing and i am aware that it shares dim with fear but you in 2v2 you can use fear on the target and let succubus "spam" seduction on the other one, with a correct macro you just have to click it (not accually click but anyway) and you can keep dpsing
kemo7685 1 year ago
if only i saw this a week ago lol no way at all to unsocket?
oPhillo 1 year ago
Shadow Priest's and Balance Drood's 3% DOES NOT stack !!! :)
eRikzZzje 1 year ago
Due to the fact that Immolate (DoT) is capable of critical hitting, it's better to get Glyph of Immolate and equal haste to critical strike chance when choosing gear, but not when gemming.
MrIsowin 1 year ago
@MrIsowin What glyph would you replace to get glyph of immolate? The other glyphs are much more dps friendly and allow for so much more damage output.
TL;DR, Glyph of Immolate isnt very good for your standard warlock.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
@MrIsowin i agree with you its too much to even waste the time to click life tap untill the later portions of the fight and a extra 100 sp wouldnt do that much at higher gear lvls say 5700-6kgs when sp isnt and issue 3.5k-4k glyph of immo is the way to go
TheDeathwissh 1 year ago
@TheDeathwissh In reality, it boils down to calculating your spirit and seeing if the spell power gained by GoLT outweighs the dps output of glyph of immo.
Everyones gear is different. I could argue all day about this, but in 90% of calculations, Glyph of Life Tap comes out on top.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
@Rhoxio but then agian i do 14-16k in icc with glyph of immo
TheDeathwissh 1 year ago
@TheDeathwissh Then you know that ICC gear doesnt have much spirit on it. Hence, Glyph of Life Tap is useless once you get down to a certain point. Anyone who can read can deduce this.
Aside from that, if you really are pulling 14-16k consistently, then you don't really need a guide. You know what you are doing and you have optimized your gear accordingly. This is the setup that works for people who have less than heroic icc 25m gear. End of story.
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@MrIsowin i agree with you its too much to even waste the time to click life tap untill the later portions of the fight and a extra 100 sp wouldnt do that much at higher gear lvls say 5700-6kgs when sp isnt and issue 3.5k-4k glyph of immo is the way to go
TheDeathwissh 1 year ago
ty men i realy need your tips
kristisauk 1 year ago
What is the cast bar that shows your priority casts?
Deadtome13 1 year ago
@Deadtome13 ? What?
My castbar that I use is called Quartz.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
Rotation Kinda.. ehh.. i like to be able to use 3 Incenerates instead of having to use one of my procs for my Chaos Bolt.. Try this rotation. Curse>Immolate>Chaos bolt>Conflagrate>then incenerate and repeat rotation.. Works really well for me.. :D
Ransiik 1 year ago
@Ransiik Conflag has a higher DPT than Chaos Bolt. More burst as well. Conflag on every cooldown no matter what. Period.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
you could have a lower hit aslong as you have a draenei in grp for the 1% or a moonkin/shadow priest for the 5%
wuldoor 1 year ago
hey nice vid helped me a lot
koschi104 1 year ago
why do you use suppression in destro?: Suppression, a talent at the top of the affliction talent tree reduces your chance to miss with Affliction spells by 1% per talent point (up to 3/3 for 3%). Note, this only effects Affliction spells. Your Destruction and Demonology spells will be unaffected.
omstealth 1 year ago
@omstealth
It's chance to hit with SPELLS and reduces the mana cost of AFFLICTION spells.
If it only affected affliction spells, it would say increases chance to hit with and reduces the mana cost of affliction spells, which it does not.
HarleeHarrison 1 year ago
@omstealth No, it does not. Read the tooltip. It does NOT specifically say that it increases the chance to hit with affliction spells. Therefore, it is universal. If you dont believe me, go look on a theorycrafting website.
Rhoxio 1 year ago
Nice video really helpful!
prototanker 1 year ago
hey how do u make the tags??
jenelle06 1 year ago
almost same add ons aha
therodsquadpwzu 1 year ago
FAIL LOCK! stick to your paladin =P
SteelGreiver 1 year ago
FIRST VIEW :)
DOCTAOCTAGONAPUS 1 year ago