Good show ,I trust Google more than M$ & Apple,You are right we still have to watch them.
Billions of dollars talks ,lets hope they spend some of that money on Open GL and the best video & sound codec's then give it to GPL of all the company's they could do it , well i hope they DO IT. ... MY 2 cents
Second, about H264 is the licensing part. Issue is that it is updated each 5th year. So Google and many more fear that when H264 gets enough of the market MPEG LA will rise the licensing royalties.This is a real issue and that's why H264 should not be used. And this is why I think Google is afraid of and trying to move people to other choices.
First issue, OpenGL and Firefox. There is something to it. Have you ever tried to run Compiz and for example Wine at the same time? Mostly it will get drawing issues and extremly low frame rates. And if you kill compiz and reboot and then launch wine some game it will have good performance and no drawing issues. I think this may be the same issue for Firefox and Opengl acceleration.
@emersonhitech We had a drive die on us (last week). So we're saving to a slower drive in this episode. Good news is today I installed a nice fast 10,000 RPM drive. That should solve the sync problems!
Firefox works wonderfully for me, either in windows and linux, i don't use any other browser although i have tried many, i always go back to firefox, and personally i don't like chromium at all, so those "implementations" are just irrelevant for me anyway :P good video folks, keep it up.
What sucks the most about this whole story is that webm is a technologically inferior product. We're making a step backwards to make a point and that's never a good thing. =/
I read somewhere that google are doing this because as well as adobe and other companies are willing to ditch Microsoft and its projects because of the way they are doing business, and they wants to put an end to it once and for all.
When adobe ditches MS it means u have to use another browser than IE and MS Office will no longer have pdf support.
Now, I do not trust everything I read on wikipedia, but this sounds legit from what they have been doing lately (hint: the new Adobe Flash 10.2).
I've been using Firefox on Gentoo for 5 years now and I don't remember Firefox crashing more than 20 times in all this time. When it happened, it was typically because of the flash plugin. Not sure how Firefox is crashing every 12 sec for Bryan???
I would actually have gone the enlightenment Foundation Libraries route for the 2D Unity project. I have seen the 2D software compositing and it's amazing.
How can you legally offer support for a proprietary codec in an open source project when you can't guarantee the promises of the license? People no longer have the right to fork and distribute. I understand what you're saying, but WebM is the only legitimate way forward for open source in our patent world. X264 skirts the issue because they aren't a giant corp. that can get sued. Also, WebM probably uses many similar compression techniques to h264 so some decoder hardware can probably be used.
XBMC in its video addon section, has a Jupiter Broadcasting addon. So I can watch your videos using that media centre. I think that is awesome. Any recomendations for mp3/audio editing in linux?
i too was thinking about switching to FF from chrome (no chromium on fedora (i am lazy and dont wana keep compiling from source)), but this is just pathetic
I didn’t like Firefox and used long time Opera under Windows (because you can save Site and look it 100% right at home without Internet). In 3.2010 I tested FF and in 4.2010 I tested Chromium. I us Chromium till now but I will next test rekonq (in html5test . com show Video support YES - MPEG-4, H.264, & Ogg Theora, NO - WebM / AUDIO YES - PCM, MP3, AAC & Ogg Vorbis NO - WebM).
You are totally conflating this WebM issue. It is about the HTML5 video tag in the Chrome browser. That is all. Not "Google" totally removing any and all compatibility with H264 on everything in the universe. To my knowledge, they have made no statements suggesting removal of H264 in Android. No statements suggesting that Youtube videos will stop being encoding in H264 along with WebM and Flash. If that happens, then you may have some valid points, but until then, just calm down.
Bottom line...Google is a corporate...Although it supports "openness", profit maximization remains the main objective of Google...Consumer satisfaction is only a mean to keep the dollars coming...and Google are son good in turning things around...they are so good in trial and error...If this new step didn't work, Google would play a different strategy...and life goes on....
For a Firefox example, I found that (I know it's beta) Firefox 4.0 is using considerably more memory than the current 3.6.x version. Not sure about the jiga-watt amount but it is more.
1 hour and 5 mins....? 2000+ people watched this? Must have insomnia.
bigGaza1 1 year ago
wow
I realize it a time ago
Google is using open source, for their own fame
hdzsound 1 year ago
Great show!
Dannie92 1 year ago
Isnt webm supposed to be faster at video conversion.
thermalz0mbie 1 year ago
Good show ,I trust Google more than M$ & Apple,You are right we still have to watch them.
Billions of dollars talks ,lets hope they spend some of that money on Open GL and the best video & sound codec's then give it to GPL of all the company's they could do it , well i hope they DO IT. ... MY 2 cents
wheel3r6 1 year ago
you could always build a Watson type machine to redo your back catalog of videos! HEHE :)
ShizzlePDX503 1 year ago
Second, about H264 is the licensing part. Issue is that it is updated each 5th year. So Google and many more fear that when H264 gets enough of the market MPEG LA will rise the licensing royalties.This is a real issue and that's why H264 should not be used. And this is why I think Google is afraid of and trying to move people to other choices.
C0MMANDE12 1 year ago
First issue, OpenGL and Firefox. There is something to it. Have you ever tried to run Compiz and for example Wine at the same time? Mostly it will get drawing issues and extremly low frame rates. And if you kill compiz and reboot and then launch wine some game it will have good performance and no drawing issues. I think this may be the same issue for Firefox and Opengl acceleration.
C0MMANDE12 1 year ago 3
@C0MMANDE12
True. This is why the first thing I do when install Ubuntu go to appearance preferences and disable visual effects.
enedene1 1 year ago
@emersonhitech We had a drive die on us (last week). So we're saving to a slower drive in this episode. Good news is today I installed a nice fast 10,000 RPM drive. That should solve the sync problems!
-Chris
jupiterbroadcasting 1 year ago 5
Firefox works wonderfully for me, either in windows and linux, i don't use any other browser although i have tried many, i always go back to firefox, and personally i don't like chromium at all, so those "implementations" are just irrelevant for me anyway :P good video folks, keep it up.
DaniFilth84 1 year ago
What sucks the most about this whole story is that webm is a technologically inferior product. We're making a step backwards to make a point and that's never a good thing. =/
Yupiyeahs 1 year ago
I love me some chromium.Good show guys
DerekLun 1 year ago
I read somewhere that google are doing this because as well as adobe and other companies are willing to ditch Microsoft and its projects because of the way they are doing business, and they wants to put an end to it once and for all.
When adobe ditches MS it means u have to use another browser than IE and MS Office will no longer have pdf support.
Now, I do not trust everything I read on wikipedia, but this sounds legit from what they have been doing lately (hint: the new Adobe Flash 10.2).
blackoutworm 1 year ago
I've been using Firefox on Gentoo for 5 years now and I don't remember Firefox crashing more than 20 times in all this time. When it happened, it was typically because of the flash plugin. Not sure how Firefox is crashing every 12 sec for Bryan???
lucianmp 1 year ago
sound/vid is slighty out of sync
mr47blond 1 year ago
I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 with the default version of Firefox and, so far, I haven't experienced any of the issues you seem to have had with Firefox!
hicksrobin42 1 year ago
I would actually have gone the enlightenment Foundation Libraries route for the 2D Unity project. I have seen the 2D software compositing and it's amazing.
jeffreyparke 1 year ago
thats cool about the freebsd thing at the end :-)
TerminalMinimalist 1 year ago
You guys rule!
RobLoach 1 year ago
BTW prey is on linux.
icculus.org/prey/
supercoolguyT 1 year ago
you guys are hilarious
themack411 1 year ago
How can you legally offer support for a proprietary codec in an open source project when you can't guarantee the promises of the license? People no longer have the right to fork and distribute. I understand what you're saying, but WebM is the only legitimate way forward for open source in our patent world. X264 skirts the issue because they aren't a giant corp. that can get sued. Also, WebM probably uses many similar compression techniques to h264 so some decoder hardware can probably be used.
directrix1 1 year ago
Chromium takes more memory than firefox and is butt ugly.
FeelItRising 1 year ago
Finally, the duo is complete!
clarkkov 1 year ago
awesome intro B
rz4prezi 1 year ago
I watch your show on monday mornings, and I can't think of a better way to start my week.
perfectgyroscope 1 year ago
XBMC in its video addon section, has a Jupiter Broadcasting addon. So I can watch your videos using that media centre. I think that is awesome. Any recomendations for mp3/audio editing in linux?
1.21 gigga-watts...1.21 gigga-watts....great scott!
kiwicanuck1973 1 year ago
i too was thinking about switching to FF from chrome (no chromium on fedora (i am lazy and dont wana keep compiling from source)), but this is just pathetic
LinuxShogoki 1 year ago
I didn’t like Firefox and used long time Opera under Windows (because you can save Site and look it 100% right at home without Internet). In 3.2010 I tested FF and in 4.2010 I tested Chromium. I us Chromium till now but I will next test rekonq (in html5test . com show Video support YES - MPEG-4, H.264, & Ogg Theora, NO - WebM / AUDIO YES - PCM, MP3, AAC & Ogg Vorbis NO - WebM).
dtzdkfigogdklftzd448 1 year ago
@NinjaFOBs same
bmw2go11 1 year ago
firefox sucks
and
google blows
bmw2go11 1 year ago
You are totally conflating this WebM issue. It is about the HTML5 video tag in the Chrome browser. That is all. Not "Google" totally removing any and all compatibility with H264 on everything in the universe. To my knowledge, they have made no statements suggesting removal of H264 in Android. No statements suggesting that Youtube videos will stop being encoding in H264 along with WebM and Flash. If that happens, then you may have some valid points, but until then, just calm down.
JayBomb999 1 year ago
Bottom line...Google is a corporate...Although it supports "openness", profit maximization remains the main objective of Google...Consumer satisfaction is only a mean to keep the dollars coming...and Google are son good in turning things around...they are so good in trial and error...If this new step didn't work, Google would play a different strategy...and life goes on....
ozuzebox 1 year ago
Holy crap, I had to take a nap after that one! I agree with what you have to say, I'm just not sure of what I should do with it!?
hicksrobin42 1 year ago
For a Firefox example, I found that (I know it's beta) Firefox 4.0 is using considerably more memory than the current 3.6.x version. Not sure about the jiga-watt amount but it is more.
bobfever100 1 year ago
how cool is that?! i'm watching 480p!! xD
batezippi 1 year ago
aww 240p only
xep00 1 year ago
@xep00 i know, i keep refreshing
KennyMataz 1 year ago
When did the linux action show become the Linux Elitist show?
SamueltehG33k 1 year ago
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8NCLI8 1 year ago
It didn't.
8NCLI8 1 year ago
first comment! :D lol i love you guys
russellwarner1 1 year ago