disposal of sodium

[v1los]

What a bloody waste!! You try and get hold of sodium these days. It either virtually impossible or you have to pay a fortune for it.

[interferinginsect]

I just realized that the audio of this newsreel was used in LA Noire, while driving around town.

[healmyperfume]

@interferinginsect I play L.A. Noire,too haha. It's the best isn't it?

[mcavic]

It would have been more dramatic if they catapulted the barrels into the lake instead of rolling them down the hill.  Just sayin.

[mcavic]

So nobody would accept the containers for shipment to a purchaser, yet they were able to transport them to the lake. Seems like they could have found a way to sell the stuff. Then again, if they hadn't figured out about packing the sodium in kerosene to keep it safe, it just would have gone into a warehouse and blown up there.

[shamanqueen13]

Dumb people. they should have gotten rid of it in an environmentally friendly manner.

[BlingBlingExecution]

You know your connection is a waste when the video buffers at 240p ... FML

[WildWe5]

and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and

[guicapone2]

why is this narrator voice everywhere in 1920ish vidoes???

[endimion17]

@guicapone2 I think it's not because it was the same man, but because they used that same style over and over again, and their recording devices were mono microphones with old technology. That would give this irritating, pompous yelling which strips the voice of its natural "color", so mostly everyone sounds the same.

[basballplayer8]

@guicapone2  This is 1947.

[Terrafirmia]

What happens if it rains when the barrels are still on the truck.

[memberHD]

@Terrafirmia it would explode. Really not that hard to work out. What you seem to struggle with is the idea that they would not do this if it was raining

[ephex]

Blast fishing like a boss.

[alexcranson]

@ephex How would they be fishing if they said there were no fish in the lake making it a perfect disposal site?

[ephex]

@alexcranson Do you believe everything the government tells you? Sheesh people, lookt at this gullible fool.

(I didn't really listen to it because EXPLOSIONS)

[Kadda67]

I wonder what happened if you hold a cigarrete on that cloud

[Crabjesus]

@Kadda67 It would perhaps be extinguished - the cloud you see is mostly water vapour thrown up by the explosion below.

[endimion17]

@Crabjesus Actually it's mostly concentrated aqueous solution of sodium hydroxide. Corrosive, but not flammable, of course.

I wouldn't like to be in that cloud's path, that's for sure. :D

I'd imagine that the surroundings were covered in baking soda deposits in the next few days. Probably a shitful of butterflies came to feast upon it. :)

[LeLutinBanni]

@Kadda67

Nothing

[TimK2702]

@dennisnedry ಠ_ಠ Not sure if trolling or just fucking stupid

[Daiseik0]

i feel so patriotic watching this

[movezig1]

There is no fucking way that lake was devoid of fish....no fucking way

[RyanD051]

@movezig1 Not yet at least

[Azilythe]

@movezig1

He was obviously talking in future tense.

[fireblast540]

the star wars text is reeaaally not necessary man.

[sicarim]

@fireblast540 What? No, it was totally necessary.

[MrEpicTruth]

Only one lesson to take away from this:

News was fucking AWESOME in the 40s.

[baggytheo]

Let's get some Cesium now...

[SpringSamurai]

AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND

just use a commas, fuck sake.

[RJbellemare]

The 1950's when common folk were "green" and corporations did this.

[Isoprenyl]

If that lake wasn't alkaline before, it sure as fuck is now.

[tonybeir]

dump it in the lake. fuckin smart.

[BOBSTER00001]

now we just wait for this to be on myth busters.

[Sordatos]

Would´ve that precipitate to the people present?

[gobreinjar]

What a spectacular experiment !

[guzerator]

Metallic sodium? What the hell else would it be?

[alexdevries420]

La noire has the audio but i had too see if there was a video!

[Dragonsoft22]

DONT USE THIS TO COOK!!!! or ur hair is ruined :(

[Zephyius]

I learned of this through L.A. Noire lol.

[TakaTaka0827]

Japan's plutonium multiplier "Monju" will burst June 2011.

"Monjyu"'s coolant is liquid sodium.

Liquid sodium pipes and water pipes are adjacent in "Monju".

And more, now the reactor maintenance crane of the "Monju" is dropped in the reactor. To remove it, Japan will open the reactor's cap June 2011.

If "Monju" will burst and burn, we can't do anything and the northern hemisphere will be annihilated.

[forrenzt3]

@TakaTaka0827 DUDE NO WAY THATS SCARY WHERED YOU HEAR THAT? JUNE 2011 YOU SAY? HMM WHATS TODAYS DATE, SEPT 7 2011, AND WE'RE ALL STILL ALIVE. I BET YOU FEEL EMBARASSED.

[PyroPortrayal]

Why the fuck? That's bullshit!

[BuGBurnout]

Why the F did they throw it away ?!?!?

[Ponicalica]

@BuGBurnout Because it was too dangerous to transport to anyone willing to buy it.

[zong08]

Too bad this video wasn't in color. Otherwise it would've been even MORE AWESOME!!! Lol

[Barbarian216]

Lots of steamed fish in that lake!

[Stirlingmaster]

@Barbarian216 no fish there in the first place, the lake was already too alkaline for any fish to live there

[funchemistrydemos]

Sodium went where it came from.....

[funchemistrydemos]

I got 100 grams (0,2 lb) of sodium for about 32 euros (~50 $). 30.000 pounds would cost hmmmmm 4.8 Million euros (or 7.2 Million $)

[janchaan]

Poor sodium, they should give it to me :)

[SuperYamiBakuraFan]

lol watching things explode makes my day! ^_^

EPA! EPAAAA!! XD

[iindium49]

like so many schools could have used that in science classes...... what a waste...

[Fatblob6]

@iindium49 we do :)

[izaatmusic]

i learnt that sodium works like a super horny slut.. explodes when wet..

[EODsplosion]

What would you do with a drum of sodium metal?

I would wright my name on it with my pee.

[ferrarif40owner]

Those cowards should be imprisoned...!!! This is one of a kind natural preserve area on our planet with beautiful canyons and Indian history as well as artifacts and drawings along canyons. This lake was created during the great ice age floods and has very few rare Lahontan cutthroat trout in it... Sad.... very sad..... (for those unfamiliar with this unique area search for "Grand Coulee")

[erushbass]

@ferrarif40owner fuck that drivel, did you see that cloud, woooooooooooo.

[BadSmaxx]

@ferrarif40owner The majority of them are now dead, this was as you obviously were too hellbent to notice in 1947. Such a shame the lake was completely ruined by this eh? Oh wait it wasn't! The caves are still there the Lahontan cutthroat trout are still there, the canyons are still there! And being made during the ice age hardly qualifies it as a unique lake, as a matter of fact if it were made any other way it would be more unique! So you're whining crap is for naught. Typical...

[mycoid]

FAKE !

[rjj296]

I need to find me one of those barrels!

[shivabitch]

Sodium was used for eplosives during the world wars. So You can not just sell it to privat persons :) . Throwing it into a lake is no good idea because it reacts with water to soda lye.

[galfisk]

@shivabitch Throwing it into an alkaline lake such as this is however a very good idea - since the lake already contains enormous amounts of lye naturally, a little more makes no difference and doesn't harm the environment.

I would've loved to see this in person, it must've been beautiful.

[jasonbrotherton]

cool, I always like watching things blow up

[alkhema17]

use sodium for plumbing :D

[OperationCrossroad]

Man... those were the days...

[coondogtheman1234]

someone should do this today and film it but use a lake with no fish the explosions would be awesome. I agree with the person below me, I love watching things explode. its so awesome.

[davchajoh]

This is fabulous!! Talk about "chemist's" going rogue! I wish I could be that reckless when I had a bad day at the lab bench.

[Rayden440]

They used sodium as weapon in WWII?

[nairdajun]

PersonguydudeWB - if it started raining or if some drop of water landed in the barrel it would blow up in your face and take you, your car, your house and probably the guy who u were dealing with

[PersonguydudeWB]

Why not just sell it? I would buy it :D

[aMiRuLeS2559]

ya you dumn fucks

[axenm21]

thanks for fuckin the planet bastards!

[lebensraummetal]

@axenm21 Oh no they put something that they dug out of the earth back into the earth oh no!

[Larryshaw48]

To think, we used to actually use sodium for fishing in the Thames at Reading.

[I3AM0CJ]

he said there are no fish in that lake

[Magnesium37]

wow what a waste... and no more fish in that lake i suppose

[greengrendel]

Forget back garden experiments, this is the real thing!

[elk832]

Fallout 3 made me love these kinds of videos =)

[puku4]

the water must become basic

[fmeriqui]

what a waste.............

[deadisastaeofmind]

no its not what else would thry do with it? u cant eat it

[fmeriqui]

you can blow  things up with it

[gera101c]

make salt with it. jk

[baronofcheese]

@deadisastaeofmind sell it to element collectors?

[OBCblackhawk]

@fmeriqui yeah really, why not store this or something.... what a complete waste of valuable material....

[jigglesnap]

Hahahahahaha why did they create drums of pure sodium in the first place?

[indiagreat2]

its from world war 2...american army is so stupid

[macornelius]

yeah, because there was so much else to do with it right after the war.

[KlivanRobert]

@indiagreat2 yeah. especially since we won.

[BaytekkDesigns]

Love the overdub of KABLAAAAM !KABLAAAAM! KABLAAAAM! KABLAAAAM KABLAAAAM KABLAAAAM! KABLAAAAM!KABLAAAAM !

[TEricHarrison]

The one thing cooler than the science involved is the soundtrack. They just don't make them like they used to

[seanbrockest]

damn, didn't have it in color or 1080p.

and we'l never see something like that ever again.

[GaseousNobility]

SWEET! I love watching explosive chemical reactions!

[VirtualR]

lol they could have just mixed it with chlorine and then it would just be harmless sea salt, dump it in the ocean and its all done safely. I think they just wanted to show off lol

[soul111smasher]

You got it :D. Why make salt when you can blow shit up?

[thingy291]

how to fish :)

[Cybrludite]

Ok, that gets filed under, "Hey, Verne! Hold my beer an' watch this!"

[Emcfunk]

holy SHIT

neat!

[jacubv]

holy cowshit!

[Tetragrammaton8]

WWII era newsreels were so awesome.

[razorflown2]

"Are" so awesome

[VirtRampage]

this video reminds me of fallout3

[frosty956]

HINT: according to the vid, they added 20000 pounds of sodium and lake lenore contains about 24 billion litres of water (google), thats about 1.3 trillion moles and i would hope you know how to calculate that being a 4th year chem student and all :)

[frosty956]

1) I don't have a fish tank. 2) I already know what the results will be 3) you didn't answer my question, mr. 4th year chem. student. I'm not a 4th year chem student, but I am able to do simple calculations and preform basic mental reasoning (I'll give you a hint, as I've already done the calculation). So back to my original question, did you do the calculations, or just make a random statement?

[adeadlysniper]

Look man:

Na + H2O = Na+ + OH- + 1/2H2 in an aqueous solution, and even my 12 year old brother knows that hydroxide ion makes water basic. Btw ur right there was no fish in that lake, your mama had them all shoved up her vag no wonder she smelled so bad!!!

[frosty956]

the lack of fish being a side issue, did you stop to think that maybe that quantity of sodium, reacted with that volume of water (the whole friggn lake), wouldnt raise the pH in any meaningful way?

[adeadlysniper]

Yes I did. And it does raise the pH, that's why they stopped doing it this way.

[frosty956]

care to share you calculations?

[adeadlysniper]

No, I'm not going to bother; I have better things do than pH calculations for people on the internet. If you're genuinely interested then send me a PM.

[frosty956]

Well one would interperet a response to my original comment of "Yes I did. And it does raise the pH....", seems to imply that you had already done the calculations, so it shouldnt be too difficult to reproduce them here, but then you say your not going to bother, so did you do the calculations, or not? If not, you can't be making statements like: "Yes I did. And it does raise the pH, that's why they stopped doing it this way.", as you have no way to back them up.

[dayknowsalchemy]

thats what alkali means (pH is above 7). thats why there are no fish in it to begin with, so adding the sodium wont do much but make pretty booms.

[frosty956]

exactly, the pH is a logarithmic scale meausuring the concentration of H+ ions (made by acids), and 'pOH' is the same but for the concentration of OH- ions, made by bases (alkalis). they are linked by 14=pH+pOH, which is due to the 'self ionization of water', i.e the concentration of H+ and OH- in pure water.

[laputahayom]

"they are linked by 14=pH+pOH, which is due to the 'self ionization of water'"

don't you mean 7

[frosty956]

I'm pretty sure its 14, as i think the product of OH- concentration and H+ concentration at equilibrium is 1x10^(-14), but like i said before, im no expert in chemistry so i may be wrong.

[Envergure]

Pure water self-ionizes to give a concentration of 10^-7 each of H+ and OH-, so pH = 7 and pOH = 7. pH + pOH is about 14 at room temperature, but gets lower that 14 (ie. ion concentration increases) at higher temperatures (especially as a supercritical fluid). In an alkali, there are more OH- ions than H+, so pH increases while pOH decreases.

[thatsgogogo]

so where do i get the codes?

[ENavarrete10]

this is just moronic!

aren't they making NaOH in the process?

[adeadlysniper]

Once the pH of the lake started to go way up and all the fish started dying maybe they realized this ain't the best way to do it. :P

[deathcrunch]

Considering the video is a minute long at at 0:20 they tel you there isn't any fish, you're either retarded or weren't even watching this.

[yougeo]

Ah the good ole days when we could all enjoy the rampant destruction of nature.

I miss it.

[perricida]

Some things just dont go well together

[indierevolutionist]

i've always wanted to do that!

[Th3gunn3rs96]

NICE

[britheguy]

Sodium is EXTREAMLY expensive to ship. For a little TINY piece it would cost more than 70% of the cost of the actual sodium. Also they had a surplus of sodium because a nuclear power pant shut down and had all of this leftover sodium. They use sodium to cool the reactor core.

[BitHacker666]

A darn shame! How much do you think

the government spent in tax dollars

to produce/buy the sodium metal?

[Malithion2001]

Fish- Can I eat that?

Sodium- KAAABOOOM!!!!

[hanzyfranzy]

well now i know where to find some sodium hydroxide.

[chonge]

I wonder how much of that lake is now sodium hydroxide

[lyj911]

Isn't that a waste of resources...

[Walabio]

Strictly speaking it is a waste of resources; but understandably however, when the war suddenly ended, the government found itself with a large quantities of a material they do not currently need which is both dangerous and expensive to store (leaky roof equals big — ¡BOOM! It was safer and cheaper to throw the sodium in a lake and, if necessary, manufacture more in the future, if needed, than to store until needed.

[OpiateReqium]

im guessing this lake featured in xmen 2 =P

[loverpath]

tt is stupid. now the lake is alkaline =.=

[InBloom10]

they could've just dumped it off at my house...

[Brbolj]

poor fishes...

[DeliriumSC]

The commentator said the lake was "devoid of fish"

[hohoho1992]

Dude, it's pure sodium... if u eat it, thats what will happen to you..

[johnnyjohn2005]

waste

[hydraliskdragon]

Thats a waste of Sodium...

I wish that I could have gotten some off them :)

[fattoldpig]

lmfao GENIUS!

[SolMaster]

Man, I wish I could see that in person.

[Xxdarkness21xX]

wow there smart >.>

[plively34]

is the reaction not - 2Na(s) + 2H20(l) --->2NaOH(aq) + H2(g). Maybe i am wrong. anything living in that water would have severe caustic soda burns

[lilmissgiggles42]

Well, considering that it's a big lake, I think the amount of water would be sufficient to dilute the NaOH such that the living things in the water wouldn't be severely jeopardised.

[lilmissgiggles42]

And I quote the video. "The alkali lake is devoid of fish"...so there's no living things in the lake to damage anyway!

[oneillkza]

Indeed, and to remind people, NaOH is alkaline, so if the entire lake is already alkaline, it's unlikely to make much difference.

[steviemorgan1984]

man wat are u on about?lol

[steviemorgan1984]

i love lamp

[HotSauce147]

I'm going to get my hands on muchos sodium one day and bomb some fish.

[slither888]

Haha, I really need to see this someday

[mejercit]

How effective would sodium metal be as a naval weapon?

[wsmith68]

Not very. Good for setting something on fire, but magnesium-cased thermite bombs are much better. Pound-for-pound compared with high explosives, alkali metals are under-performers. Their handling difficulty also considered, alkali metals are truly poor weapons.

[CroatianRocket93]

smaller quantities of sodium in the lab are disposed in alcohol (ethanol), rather than in water.

[captainlongpicard]

hey guys if u have access to an electrolysis machine u ca actually get your own sodium with any table salt you don't need

[UCSPanther]

Sounds fun. Just watch out for the chlorine gas and any Na reactions.

[aaronaarestad]

NaCl is table salt. And maybe where u think the chlorine gas would come from but in the video it said it was pure Na. No Cl involved.

NaCl does not "blow up" when in contact with water (try adding salt to water).

[UCSPanther]

I know its pure sodium, and I also know that NaCl doesn't blow up in water too.

Sodium, like other alkali metals is highly reactive because it wants to shed one electron, which is what makes raw sodium so volatile.

I was just saying that if you electrolyze salt, be careful, as you would be dealing with two hazardous elements (Sodium and Chlorine)

[captainlongpicard]

lol tru dat, gas mask required

[ilovetheduckies]

i work with sodium on a daily basis and yes it is this volatile. ive actually been cleaning it off an item and the rag i was using burst into flames because it was a little damp...very interesting stuff...

[aaronaarestad]

Sodium or Na does (blow up) when mixed with water. Na is an element that chemically wants to bond with Oxygen. Na is "stronger" than the hydrogen in H2O so the chemical reaction is what you are seeing. It is not very dangerous if you are not next to it because the by product is just Na, H, and O. in various mixtures. This is probably the best way (cheap & safe) to dispose of pure sodium. Na mixed in a river would not cause cancer.

[neil9327]

No the product is not Na, H, and O, it is hydrogen (which burns in the atmosphere) and NaOH (Sodium hydroxide) which is a powerful alkali. This will kill off any plant life in the lake, and cause burns to anyone who gets the water on their skins.

[aaronaarestad]

Its been a while since i took chemestry but hydrogen is stable in atmosphere as a di-element,two H bonded together (sorry wrong terminology i think) so 2Na+H2O= Na2O+H2 not NaOH+H. Both formulas are chemically balanced.

If i am wrong about that i conseed you are right. Have a good day.

[KaamekLasrao]

We did this yesterday in physical science class (don't ask why - we're in a chapter on electricity, but our teacher really likes chemistry which is why he got into the stability of the atoms with various electrons) with MUCH smaller amounts, of course, and he said, like neil9327, that the product was hydrogen and sodium hydroxide. -K

[Uberownager]

Actually that is a bit wrong. neil and Kaamek is right.

The reaction is

Na(s)+ H2O(l) --> Na+(aq) + OH-(aq) + ½ H2(g)

[Marcooftw]

Yes, the product is pure Na, if NaCl is electrolyzed.

NaCl(l) + e- -> Na(s) + Cl (g)

That's how Sodium is produced commercially.

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What you're talking about is when NaCl(aq.) is electrolyzed. Then the products would be as you said.

[5horsepower]

why dispose of it when i want some

[Choaseticles]

Wow and we wonder why cancer rates are so high around the world.

[rrward]

Sodium doesn't cause cancer. Matter of fact, you eat sodium every day. Sodium chloride is table salt.

[darksahara8993]

then why doesnt friggin explode I've been trying it all day O_O!

[rrward]

Pure sodium is explosively reactive, but sodium chloride is not. The bonds between the sodium and chlorine are so strong that it is very difficult for the sodium to react to anything else.

[antmanmax1]

Watch the reaction between sodium and chlorine, that creates salt.

[darksahara8993]

oh yeah I just found out friday in science that the valence of chlorine and sodium have a ionic bond which makes their outter layer of electrons full and makes it hard for reaction, or something I think and it makes a new atom table salt

[soylentgreenb]

High salt intake and stomach cancer appear to be correlated. So that's not entirely true.

[stev231]

is this suppost to be educational? 'cause the fire creats a smoke screen around that theory

[DigiTan000]

Oh the humanity!

[400meter]

my science teacher told us to look for this. and he was right. it was rad!

"...a series of muffled explos