And here starts the effin up the otalia relationship.but i realize now that the writers had to hook natalia up w/frank cause she had to appear pregnant on the show.
Sometimes I seriously do not think that people say how they feel to the right people. Olivia is starting to realize how much Nat means to her and Nat is trying to avoid the situation even though you can tell she loves Olivia just as much.
Finally, the definitive pt. Where liv knows her feelings are real & she has committed 2 natalia regardless, if it worked or not. Im still waiting 4 nat's exact moment. she kinda spoke of her feelings the nite after sleeping with frank. She spoke 2 God but she wasnt committed yet. It happens after she returned from the abby in august.she accepted/commited Finally
I didn't catch this the first time, because I usually ff thru Frank but at 2:39ish when Natalia's talking about how he stood by her and supported her, did she just have an epiphany that Olivia has actually been the one doing all of those things? And foreshadowing there when she says 'hope you don't regreat standing by me in the future'. Tehe
I love watching Olivia's epiphany finally admitting to herself inside that she is in love wutg Natalia and is committed to her by saying to a potential male sex partner, "The truth is, I'm living with someone/" Wow. WOW!
Wow..liv has now progressed yet another step in her sexual identity. Regardless of what it may turn out to be. inching into outward acknowledhement to self.. I remember each step like new life. Deeper. scarier then calming realizations that came in waves during my first ten years as a woman loving another
Frank is sooooooooooooooooo lame how many times can i type that with every scene he's in. funny how they are both drinking to think and suppress about there feelings for each other damn CUTE.
Natalia has lived by other people's rules most of her life and is used to coloring within the lines...Liv is used to going after what she wants and making her own rules and definitely living outside the box-Now Liv wants someone who has been more of a scared conformist-and that is what she is dealing with today...I do believe Nat as an individual will come out stronger and as a couple Otalia with triumph.
Natalia did have feelings for olivia in this eppy because even if she didn't mention my two mommies to frank she says to frank she wants to get away sometimes and not face things which was what she was feeling for her plus she told frank she hopes he can stand by her in the future!
Thats what i was thinking too. and its also the same time olivia acknowledges her feelings for nat. she choose nat over some guy. CC is good with her facial expressions. after the guys leaves she has this look like what did i just do/say? what am i doing? and/or i cant believe im in love with nat.
Everbody says frank was clueless but, natalia never mentioned emma's presentation misunderstanding so as far as he can see it natalia would only be intrested in him.
AWW!! dimples, i can think of plenty of things you would love more. run, run , run, but you sure can't hide from that sneaky little thing called love.
Olivia, honey, the THING is not only that you are "living with someone". The REAL thing is that you are SOOO MADLY IN LOVE with the one you are living with....
Lol, on the last clip after Olivia talks to the judgmental moms and says "Well that was fun...wha'd i say?!" i was thinking *that was so xena* There is a lot of similarities between the shows...
Has anyone else thought that the Olivia and Nat pairing resembles a warrior and bard that roamed ancient greece(Xena & Gabrielle)? Olivia always the bad girl and then you have Natalia, the innocent good girl who tames the beast in Olivia and brings out the greater good in her.
I think what Nat was trying to tell Frank to stand by her in the future is that she wants his support as a friend no matter what happen later. She's worrys about losing Liv cz Liv's over reacted with her feelings towards her subconsciously and maybe this stir her a little to examine her own feeling, what if she likes Liv more than friend?
When I look back at all of the things that Olivia did for Natalia, Frank doesn't hold a candle. Case in point: She helped Rafe get into a better Prison. She made sure that Natalia didn't pay a "legal" fee to Russo by having sex with him. She gave up her Job as spokesperson at Galaxy so Natalia could get her $80.000.00 back. She agreed to be Natalia's Roommate so she could get the Farmhouse previously owned by Cassie Winslow. Olivia is one Classy Lady, Frank doesn't hold a Candle to her.
Ahhhhhhh ... got it .... NATALIA SAID ... YOU STOOD BY ME YOU SUPPORTED ME... AND HOPE YOU LL FEEL THAT WAY IN THE FUTURE ...THAT YOU WON 'T REGRET STANDING BY ME....
Frank did alot, but he paled in comparison to what Olivia did. Getting her back $80.000. Getting Rafe moved to another Prison, not to mention sharing the house, etc. So tell me girlfriend, who really loves you more.
That's what I thought as well, she seemed to realize suddenly she was talking about Liv...and also it's so telling when she says '' go away and not face..thing'' I think this is when she is finally realizing her feelings and does not want to face them. She is great with expressing so much with her face....
When Frank asked Natalia to go to the mountains with him she took a long time to anwser! we can see that she wasn´t really excited.. She always runs to Frank when she get scared about Liv..
Dang! I didn't realize that. Yet, Natalia should have said no because if he asked her to go away to the Mountains with him "alone", she should have realized that he may want something "more".
One more thought I dont think it is any coincidence they are bringing back Phillip at this time. Anyone who threatens to stop watching GL if Olivia and Natalia turn gay will still keep watching the show to see what happens with Phillip. Smart move for TPTB.
Phillip is a good fall back option for the show. How much of a good fall back option I guess depends on how much the viewers were alienated. I suppose if Phillip wouldn't be good enough, they coudl always pair Reva and Josh finally. Of course, I think killing off a certain saint serial rapist could make watching easier too. As it is, I think Otalia seems to have a very vocal group behind it. Whether or not that is huge may not matter. Publicity is a good investment and Otalia has that.
I read the Big Love article in TV Guide and decide to check out GL for the first time. When TV Guide calls the Olivia / Natalia story line "the most fascinating - and hot - plot playing out on the soaps right now" TPTB would have to be crazy to stop the s/l. GL can attract a huge fan base - those of use who are looking for a good ole fashion romance story involving 2 women.
The writing, acting and chemistry of Olivia and Natalia are excellent as well as refreshing.
I just had a "Lightbulb" Moment. When Olivia finds out that Natalia "Slept" with Frank, she's going to be upset because she's going to remember that she didn't "Sleep" with Clive especially when she said she was "living" with someone. Olivia's going to feel that Natalia "betrayed" her. Bring on the Drama.
I think that these two are THE BEST representation of a meaningful and down to earth relationship b/t 2 women I have seen. Yes, I know they are technically not together. However, I can clearly see it is about to come to a head. Olivia is so much in love w/ Nat. Watch Nat's reaction to Frank. She is so thinking about Olivia. Wouldn't you be?????? The hell with AMC!!!!!!!!!!!
Those SOC spoilers have been posted for over 2 months already. We are seeing the Frank/Natalia attempt at romance on our screens currently. In addition those spoilers came from a print article from SOD that was a preview of spring 2009.
I believe Olivia's new relationship will be Natalia.
Again, spoilers or rumors posted on this channel without stating the source will be removed.
Olivia is already in a new relationship. It just hasn't been revealed as romance yet. According to new spoilers, it should be made more clear this week (that isn't giving away anything).
I'm really happy that Grant Alexander will be back. I've never been a huge fan of Phillip, but GL needs the hype to stay alive. I wonder how big a wrench he's going to throw into Otalia, though. Liv is scared to death of Emma falling under Spaulding influence.
It's not a bad thing that there is an agenda. After all, the lack of gay lovin' makes the sight of it in the horizon a pleasent surprise for those that are tired of it being ignored like it is a taboo.
I just want the writers to write. My agenda isn't of a straight male.
I have to agree with eriklovessoaps. The important thing here is that the story is done well, not whether Olivia & Nat get it on to make a political point...as a lesbian myself, I'm often dissatisfied with sls that reduce glbt characters to two-dimensional tokens (part of why I think Nuke are a total snooze fest). I think Olivia's evolution over the past few years has been (if you ignore the totally bizarro Jeffrey stuff other commenters have mentioned) a really nice slow build and now we are
seeing it blossom. Over the past few weeks, they could have chosen options that would have done it justice without "going there," but these last few scenes, IMHO, have committed the writers to at least Olivia considering herself bi or gay without otherwise falling into yet another incomprehensible plot. The writing is what made Otalia possible, and at this point, the writing's on the wall. :)
Notice Natalia said that she wished that she could "get away and not have to face things." But she was actually saying that she wished she didnt have to face Olivia and the feelings she has for her.....so shes choosing to running away to the mountains with Frank.
The agendas people want always worries me. That was the case with Liv and Jeffery and ever since then, I've been quite dare I say it, cynical about groups of people and what they want.
Let me add, I thought Crystal was so charming acting with that guy that was trying to pick up on Olivia. This was a very good episode for her and that is saying something given she's so good. She got to play anger, sweet, and confused at the end.
Liv is on the brink of admitting her feelings. The Frank/Natalia weekend getaway is probably going to be the catalyst for her. There is no way Natalia is going to admit/pursue anything without Rafe's approval. Her whole life and identity is wrapped up in that kid. Frank has that going for him, Rafe clearly stated that he approves of Frank and that goes a long way with Natalia even if Frank bores her/me to tears.
Remember that Nat admits she wants to get away and make some space between her and a situation. Hence, the mountain getaway. It's akin to drinking and getting drunk. When you sober up, the problem's still there to be faced and solved. Liv's going to be there when she comes back home...can't wait!!! (I wonder if she's going to sleep with Frank though ==> that'll solve the pregnancy problem)
*falls over laughing* No Frank is not getting shipped off anywhere. I think that's your wishful thinking LOL. *Sigh* Do you spend your nights scheming up ways you can get rid of poor Frank? I feel like we may need to put him in the soap protection program.
But going of your first sentence, I totally know what you mean! I'm sorry, but if someone as gorgeous as Crystal approached me in a bar, the business meeting would have wait!
If this wasn't happening Natalia would not be dating Frank at all. Natalia's fear/confusion has pushed her to him. When Frank first kissed her, she didn't like it, and even Frank saw it. But then Liv kisses her and she runs to Frank and kisses him. Now this, and Natalia is going to the cabin. No way would she go if this whole 2 Mommies thing never happened. Natalia is using Frank to assert her hetrosexuality, and help her denial about Olivia. But it will take Nat longer to see her feelings.
I agree tav2252 I think Olivia just came out to herself now what??!! I'm not sure what Natalia is feeling right now but I think she's talking through her feelings for Olivia using Frank b/c wasn't Olivia the one who helped her son moved to a better prison, got her money to buy her home, etc??! She's making me tired..LOL Thanks for posting Otaliafan this clip's quality is GREAT!!
Frank tried those things but failed, while Olivia tried and succeeded. I think she's thanking Frank for the effort. Now that I think about it was Frank always such a sad sack. He's a really good guy so I'm conflicted about the Otalia thing. Slightly.
So Olivia is DEFINITELY into this relationship?...Otherwise why use it as an excuse not to date that guy right?....I don't see Natalia as having the same feelings...I could be wrong I only started watching recently.
This is truLiv. When those she loves are threatened, she comes out swinging. She goes a little extreme sometimes, but that's Liv. I think Natalia's just learned to let her vent and then deal with it at home. They sooo complete each other. Frankie, Frankie, Frankie.. I just keep telling myself: necessary obstacle. I am so NOT looking forward to the cabin trip, especially if something happens between them. And I am praying that they don't write JL's pregnancy into this story. Let Otalia be happy!
"I just hope that you feel that way in the future. That you won't regret standing by me."
What does that MEAN?!? Honestly, I can't figure out what Nat is feeling right now. Is she saying that to Frank because she already KNOWS that she's falling for Liv and will eventually drop him like a ton of bricks? (Please let this be the case GL writers.)
Or is she saying that because she wants to be with Frank and knows that Olivia's gonna be a big complication in their life? Man, this is GOOD stuff.
Most of that conversation with Frank had lines that she should be saying to Olivia, is she just testing them out on Frank? Natalia is going to keep us on our toes, I can't really figure her out either. I do think she doesn't want to go to the mountains with Frank, she looked like she'd rather be doing laundry. Did anyone catch the cringe at 4:22, or is that my imagination.
I do believe, however, that Nat and Liv are good for each other, as where one may be lacking in a particular trait, the other fulfills it. I think that Liv should just listen to Nat once in a while, especially if they are going to be "partners". I hope that Liv doesn't f*ck things up with her temper!!
Olivia does have a temper. Some people call her evil and childish words like that. Olivia is passionate in part for her traumatic past and partly because it is her own fault. As it is, her head tends to spin when things go out of control. Of course, this doesn't explain stalking her rapist, calling off her marriage to Buzz, and eventually marrying her rapist when she couldn't marry Gus. Leave that stuff out and you might have a better idea of who Olivia is, because that stuff made zero sense.
I love soaps, but the most disturbing thing about them for me is the reformed rapist plots. There seems to be a soap opera logic that if your rape results in a child (Ava in Liv's case), you have to eventually marry your rapist, if only for a little while.
so.. I just started watching Otalia sl here on Youtube recently but I don't know that rape story very well, I thought they were both drunk and had sex and she ended up having a baby... can someone explain? thanks!
I don't know why, but back when the rape was revealed, it was a hot button issue to question whether it was or not. In retrospect, I wish I didn't let it get under my skin so much. As it is, Olivia confided in Buzz that she passed out and woke up to find the guy had sex with her. If a guy can't tell a girl is passed out while having sex, he must be out of it. Jeffery wasn't out of it. Even if he was, it is still rape. That other episode seemed more like a way to get it over with.
Once more, the other episode was insulting. The fact Olivia apologized for anything was only done to let Jeffery off the hook. And as it worked out, he was let off the hook by the writers. See, they just brushed that rape aside and had Olivia become Jeffery's...bitch, so to speak. She broke off her wedding for him, she tried to date him and Reva ate her food, she had Ava mugged to get his attenion, and finally when they were through with Liv, she said sorry to her rapist again!
Doesn't this all sound blatent and obvertly constructed in a certain way?
Finally, that whole rape story was built upon Olivia confiding in a rape to Marina and Marah in two seperate instances where she helped the girls from attackers.
The writers didn't drop the rape. They just ignored it for the next thing some people wanted really bad. That's right, some people wanted Jeffery and Olivia as a couple, even on the web, knowing others would be offended by it.
wow how would anybody want to pair a rapist and his victim?? really?? and from what I've watched so far, Olivia is not the type of person who would do such thing!!!! doesn't make any sense!!!
Well, welcome to the twisted world that is a soap opera. Nah, soap opera or not, if a show is facing cancellation and is run by weak people, you'll have stuff like this happen.
It was dumb and I boycotted the show by not watching it when Olivia was stalking Jeffery. I gave up on the show until Otalia caught my attenion by pure chance. I gave up when Olivia married Jeffery for some reason that seemed to benefit his improving reputation as Liv was dying and being married was her wish.Ha!
But Gus was still alive at the time and was very protective of Olivia and Emma and he was Emma's uncle, so he had the ability to take on Alan. Given Phillip is up for kidnapping charges, I doubt he has any claim that would of been threatening. And would you want your rapist to raise your daughter?
No, it was just a stage for Jeffery to shine, because the writers felt the need to make him a hero. Since that didn't help the ratings, maybe they'll shift their attention to more logical stories
ohhh I didn't know she had passed out, I thought she was too drunk but aware of what she was doing...that's what I got from some clips I saw the other day where she goes back to her old house I guess and then starts remembering what happened then Jeffery appears... I guess I didn't pay attention...well it's clear now thanks!
That's pretty much it. The writers of these shows are obligated to write for whatever they see as the majority wants, because the ratings are so low. Sometimes they have no choice as to what they can do. Some people love Jeffery and they make it known in droves, so the writers were instructed to make him a saint. Well, I guess pairing him with Reva and making his rape victim appriciative was the objective. How that affected Liv or Reva can't be bothered with. Influence may run Otalia too.
I think the same thing happened with OLT's Todd Manning and Blair. Unless you know the history of Todd, you'd think he was your regular sexy bad guy when truth be told he's got a terrible past.
But Roger was married to Holly when he raped her. I'm pretty sure that story was well thought out. Todd twice raped Marty, not Blair. Michael Baldwin raped Christine and after going to prison for ten years, he came back and got involved with her. Luke raped Laura on General Hospital and they eventually got married to Elizabeth Taylor's delight. Still, they were dealing with it 30 years later with their daughter Lulu. WIth Liv, it was all sicker and sadder than it should of been.
I am well aware that Todd rapped Marty. My point was that now Todd and Blair are a lot like Luke and Laura, they are the unstoppable super couple. And as ashamed as I should be I love both couples with a passion. I was just throwing out examples.
Yeah, the Roger/Holly plot was done well at the time - it was a big deal to have marital rape even discussed. I think the concern is that once the plot ends, everyone forgets. I know that's a soap problem generally, but it seems like a bigger deal in this case. Nobody ever says to Reva, "Does it bother you that your hubby is a rapist?" Or questions how he & Ava (or Roger & Blake) could reconcile, let alone Liv. It's silenced like so many women are silenced when it comes to this subject...
Poor Natalia. She's trying to say to Frank: "Please never think that I used you, and please don't hate me if I break your heart but down the road, I think that my true love is Olivia." Wouldn't it be a riot if Frank & Natalia were in Bed together, and Natalia fantasizes about Olivia.
OMG..I would be rolling around laughing. If they did decide to go this route, it would be even better if Natalia called him Olivia while they were in bed.
But as funny as that would be, i dont ever wanna see Natalia sleeping with Frank. Poor Frank...lol
ROTFLMAO, Liv is crazy but not completely certifiable. What happened is Liv fell for Nat's dead husband Gus. Gus played a huge part in Liv keeping up hope that she would get a new heart so she wanted to marry him, even if it wasn't official. (He was already married to Nat) But Gus refused and Olivia was devastated. So Jefferey stepped in and offered to take's Gus' place. I know it's sick but Jeffery and Liv did get a divorce because he's with Reva. *Shivers!* I hate that couple.
Oh Valeriee, welcome to the wonderful world of Olivia LOL. Unfortunately her passion is the best and worst thing about her. She doesn't handle confrontation well and eh things usually end up like this. But I agree with you, if Liv has any chance of making things work with Nat, she is going to have to calm down. I appreciate her crusade for equal rights as much as the next girl but spectacles aren't
As much as I'm a lesbian and am rooting for Otalia to actually HAPPEN, I must post this (most probably) unpopular view of Olivia's behaviour. If I was Nat, I would be appalled of her ranting and raving, and her embarassing both of us!! How childish is she exactly? There is a difference between making a point, and acting like a complete idiot, and I'm afraid that she acted the latter here in my opinion. I'm new to GL. Is this how she normally acts?
This is how she normally acts OUT. I agree, Liv crosses the line. They are feeding each other's worst fears here. (Just like a real couple!) When Liv & Nat have fought in the past, it's often because Liv is carelessly grandstanding or Nat is chickening out about something - whether it's about work or Rafe or Emma. Which is why they balance each other really well when they're working together...and why this fight was particularly genius.
Olivia can be a little mental when it comes to love and for good reason. She's gone through alot with men and love. Maybe this controversy with Emma's paper has convinced Olivia being with Natalia would be easier. Wanting it and doing it might be two different thing though. I'm trying to think of movies with that sort of plot, but I'm drawing a blank..
Hmm...the old maybe-it'd-be-easier-to-be-a-lesbian plot? One flick that comes to mind is Kissing Jessica Stein. I don't think that's where GL's going with Liv, though. This character's been on a real journey to find herself for at least three years now, but, except for marrying Jeffrey, most of her evolution has been pretty organic & real. And Liv doesn't seem to think being with Nat will be easy...
True Olivia can be a little mental when it comes to falling in love, but I don't think she's fooling herself into thinking a relationship with Natalia will be a cake walk. If anything, I think she feels the exact opposite. Natalia runs away every time things get even the tiniest bit complicated and it frustrates Olivia to no end. The real issue is that Liv has these confusing feelings inside of her and she's not sure if she should act on them or just chalk it up to misunderstanding.
The bit at the end where the creepy guy says "whoever he is, he's one lucky guy." .... I agree! If I lived in Guiding Light land, I would so go soap opera crazy to to get Olivia away from Natalie. ;) lol
I totally agree with you. You know, I'm italian and maybe I didn't express my self very well. What I meant is that she didn't have a convinced expression, she said that but, for me, she didn't mean that, she didn't feel that in her heart.
Natalia to frank at 1:29: "You are the best one out there". I have to say, correct me if I'm wrong, that she had a really convinced face expression making this statement.
Yes and no. In many ways, Frank is the best *guy* in Springfield. He's spent most of his life cleaning up messes left by Harley, Buzz, Nadine, Coop, Eleni, Mallet & Marina and has always been stable and good. But I think this is Nat convincing herself to buy a Honda when she really wants a Ferrari...
Actually, as I'm thinking about it more, it really has to be Frank for this sl to go somewhere positive. If Nat was choosing Liv over a totally messed up guy, then ppl could say she's just better than the alternative, but in this case, if she picks Liv with all her faults, it's clearly for true love.
I loved the moment where Olivia said she was living with someone. This is not the Olivia of old, the man-eater...she's definitely fallen hard for Nat.
Yep. As much as I'd rather see Nat spare Liv the torture she'll be in while Nat's away, this trip should be the wake up call Natalia needs to see that she's falling for Olivia, too.
I know! The fact Olivia said she was living with someone is a HUGE deal...it implies that the writers are dedicated to the storyline! Thats too big of a statement to mean nothing.... I think Natalia is having moments thinking about being with Olivia, the way she was pausing and looking with Frank! Ohhh i hope this continues and grows into a full on story!
Oh, c'mon... what Rafe and Nat would have done without Frank??? Uh, not gotten a job in the prison library? What about what the hell Rafe and Nat would have done without Olivia?????..... *sigh* Positive thoughts, I'm sending... positive thoughts to the writers.....
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Aaron and Andrew's "Let you go"
solitasolano 1 year ago
YES YES YES Nat's finally starting to realize her feelings here (2:39) she knows it, WE know it WOOT
LexaUO26 2 years ago 3
And here starts the effin up the otalia relationship.but i realize now that the writers had to hook natalia up w/frank cause she had to appear pregnant on the show.
newagesoapopera1 2 years ago
Sometimes I seriously do not think that people say how they feel to the right people. Olivia is starting to realize how much Nat means to her and Nat is trying to avoid the situation even though you can tell she loves Olivia just as much.
So stubborn!!!
cerise1787 2 years ago 5
know what you mean
shirin718 2 years ago
Finally, the definitive pt. Where liv knows her feelings are real & she has committed 2 natalia regardless, if it worked or not. Im still waiting 4 nat's exact moment. she kinda spoke of her feelings the nite after sleeping with frank. She spoke 2 God but she wasnt committed yet. It happens after she returned from the abby in august.she accepted/commited Finally
ballershanelle 2 years ago 4
anyone know the song that plays at the end of this clip?
laurelhfan223 2 years ago
Frank has no game and Olivia made the right decision to steer clear of a guy named Clyde. WTF?
1023bry 2 years ago 4
these are all the compliments she should be giving olivia
1ceTV 2 years ago 2
I didn't catch this the first time, because I usually ff thru Frank but at 2:39ish when Natalia's talking about how he stood by her and supported her, did she just have an epiphany that Olivia has actually been the one doing all of those things? And foreshadowing there when she says 'hope you don't regreat standing by me in the future'. Tehe
scifiacid 2 years ago 10
that was exactly my thought as I watched this again. I think you are right, that she did realised its always Liv there beside her.
XULTED1 2 years ago 4
yeah...all this come more clear after so long time....lmao back then...would of been easy to pass that from the eye but now...
CalipsoSarah 2 years ago
yeah, she stops and looks away and looks confused...
yojayoung 2 years ago
I love watching Olivia's epiphany finally admitting to herself inside that she is in love wutg Natalia and is committed to her by saying to a potential male sex partner, "The truth is, I'm living with someone/" Wow. WOW!
happykt 2 years ago 13
Wow..liv has now progressed yet another step in her sexual identity. Regardless of what it may turn out to be. inching into outward acknowledhement to self.. I remember each step like new life. Deeper. scarier then calming realizations that came in waves during my first ten years as a woman loving another
ballershanelle 2 years ago 3
Frank is sooooooooooooooooo lame how many times can i type that with every scene he's in. funny how they are both drinking to think and suppress about there feelings for each other damn CUTE.
09angelcake 2 years ago 4
Excuse , whoever she is, is a very lucky gal !! OH YES
pasoslejanos 2 years ago
Hmm interesting. 3:22 to 3:33 foreshadowing much?
harukanoten 2 years ago 5
frank is really sad he need a life so bad he don't know what to do. will somebody please help him..lol
trisher22 2 years ago 2
"I'm living with someone" music to my ears...Ah to be IN LOVE
bribbie 2 years ago
yes, to be IN LOVE....
Bubbies7 2 years ago
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bribbie 2 years ago
Natalia has lived by other people's rules most of her life and is used to coloring within the lines...Liv is used to going after what she wants and making her own rules and definitely living outside the box-Now Liv wants someone who has been more of a scared conformist-and that is what she is dealing with today...I do believe Nat as an individual will come out stronger and as a couple Otalia with triumph.
bribbie 2 years ago 2
oh so true natalia...you just want to get away and not face things. how telling of the future!
also, frank has a buddy named stan! the goddess stan!!
ArtMistress78 2 years ago 2
i can so think of something Nat would love better. going away with Liv that would be a hell of a lot better.
549621jon 2 years ago 3
Natalia did have feelings for olivia in this eppy because even if she didn't mention my two mommies to frank she says to frank she wants to get away sometimes and not face things which was what she was feeling for her plus she told frank she hopes he can stand by her in the future!
09angelcake 2 years ago 9
Thats what i was thinking too. and its also the same time olivia acknowledges her feelings for nat. she choose nat over some guy. CC is good with her facial expressions. after the guys leaves she has this look like what did i just do/say? what am i doing? and/or i cant believe im in love with nat.
janet4luv 2 years ago 6
Everbody says frank was clueless but, natalia never mentioned emma's presentation misunderstanding so as far as he can see it natalia would only be intrested in him.
kimonlyloves 2 years ago
well we all new something was going on even before something was going on. and it's obvious.
Liv cries allot when it come to natalia.
549621jon 2 years ago
AWW!! dimples, i can think of plenty of things you would love more. run, run , run, but you sure can't hide from that sneaky little thing called love.
favauntie 2 years ago 10
frank the tool...
lambkelly 2 years ago 2
Olivia, honey, the THING is not only that you are "living with someone". The REAL thing is that you are SOOO MADLY IN LOVE with the one you are living with....
Bcncitylover 2 years ago 44
Natalia did act like a mystery at this point.
bloom543 2 years ago
Frank, you're not allowed to have thoughts. Stop thinking. STOP THINKING RIGHT NOW, FRANK.
shalamar 2 years ago 4
Nat has feelings for Liv in this clip. When she said to Knarf that she hopes he can stand by her in the future.
No1duckie 2 years ago 5
KNARF!! LOL--that is perfect for this backwards ass clueless loser
favauntie 2 years ago 3
...and Liv just admitted her feelings for Nat! :)
melikadothechacha 2 years ago 8
I was thinking the samething ;)
Jazzgirluv 2 years ago
SHE is one lucky woman!
CalipsoSarah 2 years ago 5
I love how they are both drinking, but separate from each other. They are so connected. And yes, Frank = JOXER.
janemansfield73 2 years ago 3
Lol, on the last clip after Olivia talks to the judgmental moms and says "Well that was fun...wha'd i say?!" i was thinking *that was so xena* There is a lot of similarities between the shows...
briemillman 2 years ago 2
I mean the song starting at 1:44 to about 2:00
tashamonee0101 2 years ago
anyone know the song at 2:00 ?
tashamonee0101 2 years ago
Natalia likes the expression "selling someone short" doen't she?
she said it when she was confrontion Olivia at Emma's play last week too
poohfairbanks 2 years ago 3
anyone know who sings the song at the end of this clip please?? xx
sablecol 2 years ago
Aaron & Andrew - Let You Go
idgie0014 2 years ago 2
who has emma? lol
jellybeanlou 2 years ago 3
good point
sidian3 2 years ago 6
Nat said she was going to take her back to day care right before Liv railed into the gawking women.
0088662 2 years ago
hahaha, yeah, and Frank as Joxer=)
Zandrius 2 years ago 5
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oh how agonizing....I love Nat and Frank and I love Nat and Olivia. GL you BASTARDS!!!
honeyspur 2 years ago
Has anyone else thought that the Olivia and Nat pairing resembles a warrior and bard that roamed ancient greece(Xena & Gabrielle)? Olivia always the bad girl and then you have Natalia, the innocent good girl who tames the beast in Olivia and brings out the greater good in her.
BBWSTL 2 years ago 13
Does anyone else think CC is amazingly hot when she goes 'unless you want to give me a ride...home?'
iloveyoumiss 2 years ago 11
Oh god it's the Furtz.
*pokes the laptop screen*
Go away... please?
Someone tell aus that she has some kicking to do!
D:
YuriFanGirls 2 years ago 12
I like Olivia's reaction after she says she's living with someone. It's almost like she can't believe what she just said.
LifeIsTooEasy 2 years ago 12
I think what Nat was trying to tell Frank to stand by her in the future is that she wants his support as a friend no matter what happen later. She's worrys about losing Liv cz Liv's over reacted with her feelings towards her subconsciously and maybe this stir her a little to examine her own feeling, what if she likes Liv more than friend?
bluvel177 2 years ago 5
When I look back at all of the things that Olivia did for Natalia, Frank doesn't hold a candle. Case in point: She helped Rafe get into a better Prison. She made sure that Natalia didn't pay a "legal" fee to Russo by having sex with him. She gave up her Job as spokesperson at Galaxy so Natalia could get her $80.000.00 back. She agreed to be Natalia's Roommate so she could get the Farmhouse previously owned by Cassie Winslow. Olivia is one Classy Lady, Frank doesn't hold a Candle to her.
laminage 3 years ago 14
She also gave 10.000 dollars to Natalia so she could go out of the country and see Rafe when he was running... She has done a lot for Nat...
puffytwerp 2 years ago 6
I agree...AND she gave her money to go to Europe and she gave her the 'Gus' house back. She gave her a job too.
RyanKasey 2 years ago
Ahhhhhhh ... got it .... NATALIA SAID ... YOU STOOD BY ME YOU SUPPORTED ME... AND HOPE YOU LL FEEL THAT WAY IN THE FUTURE ...THAT YOU WON 'T REGRET STANDING BY ME....
"MEANING WHEN SHE IS WITH OLIVIA" ... YESSSSSSSSS
pasoslejanos 3 years ago 2
I guess I found something to watch for tonight.
lovepeacenappiness23 3 years ago
Frank did alot, but he paled in comparison to what Olivia did. Getting her back $80.000. Getting Rafe moved to another Prison, not to mention sharing the house, etc. So tell me girlfriend, who really loves you more.
laminage 3 years ago 5
What?
lovepeacenappiness23 3 years ago
when she is talking to frank and telling him that he has been the most amazing friend.. is she really thinking about him or Olivia? lol
anCaMa 3 years ago 5
That's what I thought as well, she seemed to realize suddenly she was talking about Liv...and also it's so telling when she says '' go away and not face..thing'' I think this is when she is finally realizing her feelings and does not want to face them. She is great with expressing so much with her face....
PozoBlue 2 years ago 10
yess! competition.
now we'll find out
biteslife 3 years ago
Ah, Nat! You can't outrun the gay! Gay is the only thing faster than the speed of light (because it's rainbow).
Badgersprite 3 years ago 16
LOL! I love it! :D
AiKiNDragon 3 years ago 3
yeah.. so right.. and beautiful..
bluvel177 2 years ago 3
wow: 'i'm living with someone'. no doubting that Oliva has the hots for natalie
yojayoung 3 years ago 16
When Frank asked Natalia to go to the mountains with him she took a long time to anwser! we can see that she wasn´t really excited.. She always runs to Frank when she get scared about Liv..
sexylove7411 3 years ago 5
Dang! I didn't realize that. Yet, Natalia should have said no because if he asked her to go away to the Mountains with him "alone", she should have realized that he may want something "more".
laminage 3 years ago 2
One more thought I dont think it is any coincidence they are bringing back Phillip at this time. Anyone who threatens to stop watching GL if Olivia and Natalia turn gay will still keep watching the show to see what happens with Phillip. Smart move for TPTB.
tube70503 3 years ago 3
Phillip is a good fall back option for the show. How much of a good fall back option I guess depends on how much the viewers were alienated. I suppose if Phillip wouldn't be good enough, they coudl always pair Reva and Josh finally. Of course, I think killing off a certain saint serial rapist could make watching easier too. As it is, I think Otalia seems to have a very vocal group behind it. Whether or not that is huge may not matter. Publicity is a good investment and Otalia has that.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I read the Big Love article in TV Guide and decide to check out GL for the first time. When TV Guide calls the Olivia / Natalia story line "the most fascinating - and hot - plot playing out on the soaps right now" TPTB would have to be crazy to stop the s/l. GL can attract a huge fan base - those of use who are looking for a good ole fashion romance story involving 2 women.
The writing, acting and chemistry of Olivia and Natalia are excellent as well as refreshing.
Thanks ...
tube70503 3 years ago 3
I agree with you about the chem between Nat and Liv, they are the only reason I am now back to watching the show.
orlandobabe 3 years ago 4
I just had a "Lightbulb" Moment. When Olivia finds out that Natalia "Slept" with Frank, she's going to be upset because she's going to remember that she didn't "Sleep" with Clive especially when she said she was "living" with someone. Olivia's going to feel that Natalia "betrayed" her. Bring on the Drama.
laminage 3 years ago 7
Oh boy! I really hope not.
orlandobabe 3 years ago
I think that these two are THE BEST representation of a meaningful and down to earth relationship b/t 2 women I have seen. Yes, I know they are technically not together. However, I can clearly see it is about to come to a head. Olivia is so much in love w/ Nat. Watch Nat's reaction to Frank. She is so thinking about Olivia. Wouldn't you be?????? The hell with AMC!!!!!!!!!!!
jmc651960 3 years ago 7
Those SOC spoilers have been posted for over 2 months already. We are seeing the Frank/Natalia attempt at romance on our screens currently. In addition those spoilers came from a print article from SOD that was a preview of spring 2009.
I believe Olivia's new relationship will be Natalia.
Again, spoilers or rumors posted on this channel without stating the source will be removed.
Otaliafan 3 years ago
Olivia is already in a new relationship. It just hasn't been revealed as romance yet. According to new spoilers, it should be made more clear this week (that isn't giving away anything).
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
Correct. And those spoilers are readily available everywhere including TV Guide.
Otaliafan 3 years ago
I'm really happy that Grant Alexander will be back. I've never been a huge fan of Phillip, but GL needs the hype to stay alive. I wonder how big a wrench he's going to throw into Otalia, though. Liv is scared to death of Emma falling under Spaulding influence.
mmcrockthehouse 3 years ago
It's not a bad thing that there is an agenda. After all, the lack of gay lovin' makes the sight of it in the horizon a pleasent surprise for those that are tired of it being ignored like it is a taboo.
I just want the writers to write. My agenda isn't of a straight male.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I have to agree with eriklovessoaps. The important thing here is that the story is done well, not whether Olivia & Nat get it on to make a political point...as a lesbian myself, I'm often dissatisfied with sls that reduce glbt characters to two-dimensional tokens (part of why I think Nuke are a total snooze fest). I think Olivia's evolution over the past few years has been (if you ignore the totally bizarro Jeffrey stuff other commenters have mentioned) a really nice slow build and now we are
mmcrockthehouse 3 years ago
seeing it blossom. Over the past few weeks, they could have chosen options that would have done it justice without "going there," but these last few scenes, IMHO, have committed the writers to at least Olivia considering herself bi or gay without otherwise falling into yet another incomprehensible plot. The writing is what made Otalia possible, and at this point, the writing's on the wall. :)
mmcrockthehouse 3 years ago
Notice Natalia said that she wished that she could "get away and not have to face things." But she was actually saying that she wished she didnt have to face Olivia and the feelings she has for her.....so shes choosing to running away to the mountains with Frank.
cejay759 3 years ago
That's what I was thinking. I hope these two end up together.
creativesoul5 3 years ago
OMG! Woman you're kinda scary when you want a lesbian couple to happen on a show.
SubtextRules 3 years ago
The agendas people want always worries me. That was the case with Liv and Jeffery and ever since then, I've been quite dare I say it, cynical about groups of people and what they want.
Let me add, I thought Crystal was so charming acting with that guy that was trying to pick up on Olivia. This was a very good episode for her and that is saying something given she's so good. She got to play anger, sweet, and confused at the end.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I think that guy at the bar needed to come out.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I don't think he's gay or straight. His sexuality is skeevy. :)
mmcrockthehouse 3 years ago
They eat Frank, and just when they turn on Natalia, Olivia arrives and saves the day.
Grahf 3 years ago 6
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krystynakryss 3 years ago
In a Xena-outfit perhaps?
krystynakryss 3 years ago
Ehm, sors, can't seem to be able to put my answer in the right spot...
krystynakryss 3 years ago
I get the feeling that if they need any help to finally admit it to each other, it's going to be Emma who makes it happen. That would be perfect.
Grahf 3 years ago 3
Liv is on the brink of admitting her feelings. The Frank/Natalia weekend getaway is probably going to be the catalyst for her. There is no way Natalia is going to admit/pursue anything without Rafe's approval. Her whole life and identity is wrapped up in that kid. Frank has that going for him, Rafe clearly stated that he approves of Frank and that goes a long way with Natalia even if Frank bores her/me to tears.
Rad200G2B 3 years ago
Remember that Nat admits she wants to get away and make some space between her and a situation. Hence, the mountain getaway. It's akin to drinking and getting drunk. When you sober up, the problem's still there to be faced and solved. Liv's going to be there when she comes back home...can't wait!!! (I wonder if she's going to sleep with Frank though ==> that'll solve the pregnancy problem)
valeriee1234 3 years ago
*falls over laughing* No Frank is not getting shipped off anywhere. I think that's your wishful thinking LOL. *Sigh* Do you spend your nights scheming up ways you can get rid of poor Frank? I feel like we may need to put him in the soap protection program.
But going of your first sentence, I totally know what you mean! I'm sorry, but if someone as gorgeous as Crystal approached me in a bar, the business meeting would have wait!
SubtextRules 3 years ago
If this wasn't happening Natalia would not be dating Frank at all. Natalia's fear/confusion has pushed her to him. When Frank first kissed her, she didn't like it, and even Frank saw it. But then Liv kisses her and she runs to Frank and kisses him. Now this, and Natalia is going to the cabin. No way would she go if this whole 2 Mommies thing never happened. Natalia is using Frank to assert her hetrosexuality, and help her denial about Olivia. But it will take Nat longer to see her feelings.
giasony99 3 years ago 5
I think Oliva just came out. "I living with someone, "that said it all.
Thank you for uploading.
Peace and Luv.
68Jamaica 3 years ago 6
I agree tav2252 I think Olivia just came out to herself now what??!! I'm not sure what Natalia is feeling right now but I think she's talking through her feelings for Olivia using Frank b/c wasn't Olivia the one who helped her son moved to a better prison, got her money to buy her home, etc??! She's making me tired..LOL Thanks for posting Otaliafan this clip's quality is GREAT!!
allison6071 3 years ago 2
Frank tried those things but failed, while Olivia tried and succeeded. I think she's thanking Frank for the effort. Now that I think about it was Frank always such a sad sack. He's a really good guy so I'm conflicted about the Otalia thing. Slightly.
Rad200G2B 3 years ago
So Olivia is DEFINITELY into this relationship?...Otherwise why use it as an excuse not to date that guy right?....I don't see Natalia as having the same feelings...I could be wrong I only started watching recently.
tav2252 3 years ago
This is truLiv. When those she loves are threatened, she comes out swinging. She goes a little extreme sometimes, but that's Liv. I think Natalia's just learned to let her vent and then deal with it at home. They sooo complete each other. Frankie, Frankie, Frankie.. I just keep telling myself: necessary obstacle. I am so NOT looking forward to the cabin trip, especially if something happens between them. And I am praying that they don't write JL's pregnancy into this story. Let Otalia be happy!
GAbound11 3 years ago 4
"I just hope that you feel that way in the future. That you won't regret standing by me."
What does that MEAN?!? Honestly, I can't figure out what Nat is feeling right now. Is she saying that to Frank because she already KNOWS that she's falling for Liv and will eventually drop him like a ton of bricks? (Please let this be the case GL writers.)
Or is she saying that because she wants to be with Frank and knows that Olivia's gonna be a big complication in their life? Man, this is GOOD stuff.
ThoseRaindrops 3 years ago 4
Most of that conversation with Frank had lines that she should be saying to Olivia, is she just testing them out on Frank? Natalia is going to keep us on our toes, I can't really figure her out either. I do think she doesn't want to go to the mountains with Frank, she looked like she'd rather be doing laundry. Did anyone catch the cringe at 4:22, or is that my imagination.
Immeblue 3 years ago 3
Oh Natalia. What is going on in that pretty little head of yours?
ThoseRaindrops 3 years ago 3
I do believe, however, that Nat and Liv are good for each other, as where one may be lacking in a particular trait, the other fulfills it. I think that Liv should just listen to Nat once in a while, especially if they are going to be "partners". I hope that Liv doesn't f*ck things up with her temper!!
valeriee1234 3 years ago 6
Olivia does have a temper. Some people call her evil and childish words like that. Olivia is passionate in part for her traumatic past and partly because it is her own fault. As it is, her head tends to spin when things go out of control. Of course, this doesn't explain stalking her rapist, calling off her marriage to Buzz, and eventually marrying her rapist when she couldn't marry Gus. Leave that stuff out and you might have a better idea of who Olivia is, because that stuff made zero sense.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago 4
This woman (Liv) sounds CRAZY!!! Marry your rapist? You're kidding me?!?! Did the writers run out of things for Liv, or something?
valeriee1234 3 years ago
I love soaps, but the most disturbing thing about them for me is the reformed rapist plots. There seems to be a soap opera logic that if your rape results in a child (Ava in Liv's case), you have to eventually marry your rapist, if only for a little while.
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago
so.. I just started watching Otalia sl here on Youtube recently but I don't know that rape story very well, I thought they were both drunk and had sex and she ended up having a baby... can someone explain? thanks!
chocherits 3 years ago
I don't know why, but back when the rape was revealed, it was a hot button issue to question whether it was or not. In retrospect, I wish I didn't let it get under my skin so much. As it is, Olivia confided in Buzz that she passed out and woke up to find the guy had sex with her. If a guy can't tell a girl is passed out while having sex, he must be out of it. Jeffery wasn't out of it. Even if he was, it is still rape. That other episode seemed more like a way to get it over with.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
Once more, the other episode was insulting. The fact Olivia apologized for anything was only done to let Jeffery off the hook. And as it worked out, he was let off the hook by the writers. See, they just brushed that rape aside and had Olivia become Jeffery's...bitch, so to speak. She broke off her wedding for him, she tried to date him and Reva ate her food, she had Ava mugged to get his attenion, and finally when they were through with Liv, she said sorry to her rapist again!
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
Doesn't this all sound blatent and obvertly constructed in a certain way?
Finally, that whole rape story was built upon Olivia confiding in a rape to Marina and Marah in two seperate instances where she helped the girls from attackers.
The writers didn't drop the rape. They just ignored it for the next thing some people wanted really bad. That's right, some people wanted Jeffery and Olivia as a couple, even on the web, knowing others would be offended by it.
It's in the past now.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
wow how would anybody want to pair a rapist and his victim?? really?? and from what I've watched so far, Olivia is not the type of person who would do such thing!!!! doesn't make any sense!!!
well thank you very much for the explanation =D
chocherits 3 years ago 2
Well, welcome to the twisted world that is a soap opera. Nah, soap opera or not, if a show is facing cancellation and is run by weak people, you'll have stuff like this happen.
It was dumb and I boycotted the show by not watching it when Olivia was stalking Jeffery. I gave up on the show until Otalia caught my attenion by pure chance. I gave up when Olivia married Jeffery for some reason that seemed to benefit his improving reputation as Liv was dying and being married was her wish.Ha!
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I thought he married her to protect Emma from being adopted by Alan or Philip coming back and getting her.
giasony99 3 years ago
But Gus was still alive at the time and was very protective of Olivia and Emma and he was Emma's uncle, so he had the ability to take on Alan. Given Phillip is up for kidnapping charges, I doubt he has any claim that would of been threatening. And would you want your rapist to raise your daughter?
No, it was just a stage for Jeffery to shine, because the writers felt the need to make him a hero. Since that didn't help the ratings, maybe they'll shift their attention to more logical stories
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
ohhh I didn't know she had passed out, I thought she was too drunk but aware of what she was doing...that's what I got from some clips I saw the other day where she goes back to her old house I guess and then starts remembering what happened then Jeffery appears... I guess I didn't pay attention...well it's clear now thanks!
chocherits 3 years ago
That's pretty much it. The writers of these shows are obligated to write for whatever they see as the majority wants, because the ratings are so low. Sometimes they have no choice as to what they can do. Some people love Jeffery and they make it known in droves, so the writers were instructed to make him a saint. Well, I guess pairing him with Reva and making his rape victim appriciative was the objective. How that affected Liv or Reva can't be bothered with. Influence may run Otalia too.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
I think the same thing happened with OLT's Todd Manning and Blair. Unless you know the history of Todd, you'd think he was your regular sexy bad guy when truth be told he's got a terrible past.
SubtextRules 3 years ago
Michael Baldwin on Y&R, too. And Roger Thorpe on GL.
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago
Oh I forgot all about Roger Thorpe. I don't watch Y&R so he he I don't know who that guy is.
SubtextRules 3 years ago
But Roger was married to Holly when he raped her. I'm pretty sure that story was well thought out. Todd twice raped Marty, not Blair. Michael Baldwin raped Christine and after going to prison for ten years, he came back and got involved with her. Luke raped Laura on General Hospital and they eventually got married to Elizabeth Taylor's delight. Still, they were dealing with it 30 years later with their daughter Lulu. WIth Liv, it was all sicker and sadder than it should of been.
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
Oh my! My head hurts from reading that, haha.
mzzzhedison 3 years ago
I am well aware that Todd rapped Marty. My point was that now Todd and Blair are a lot like Luke and Laura, they are the unstoppable super couple. And as ashamed as I should be I love both couples with a passion. I was just throwing out examples.
SubtextRules 3 years ago
Yeah, the Roger/Holly plot was done well at the time - it was a big deal to have marital rape even discussed. I think the concern is that once the plot ends, everyone forgets. I know that's a soap problem generally, but it seems like a bigger deal in this case. Nobody ever says to Reva, "Does it bother you that your hubby is a rapist?" Or questions how he & Ava (or Roger & Blake) could reconcile, let alone Liv. It's silenced like so many women are silenced when it comes to this subject...
mmcrockthehouse 3 years ago
Poor Natalia. She's trying to say to Frank: "Please never think that I used you, and please don't hate me if I break your heart but down the road, I think that my true love is Olivia." Wouldn't it be a riot if Frank & Natalia were in Bed together, and Natalia fantasizes about Olivia.
laminage 3 years ago 5
OMG..I would be rolling around laughing. If they did decide to go this route, it would be even better if Natalia called him Olivia while they were in bed.
But as funny as that would be, i dont ever wanna see Natalia sleeping with Frank. Poor Frank...lol
cejay759 3 years ago
ROTFLMAO, Liv is crazy but not completely certifiable. What happened is Liv fell for Nat's dead husband Gus. Gus played a huge part in Liv keeping up hope that she would get a new heart so she wanted to marry him, even if it wasn't official. (He was already married to Nat) But Gus refused and Olivia was devastated. So Jefferey stepped in and offered to take's Gus' place. I know it's sick but Jeffery and Liv did get a divorce because he's with Reva. *Shivers!* I hate that couple.
SubtextRules 3 years ago 2
Oh Valeriee, welcome to the wonderful world of Olivia LOL. Unfortunately her passion is the best and worst thing about her. She doesn't handle confrontation well and eh things usually end up like this. But I agree with you, if Liv has any chance of making things work with Nat, she is going to have to calm down. I appreciate her crusade for equal rights as much as the next girl but spectacles aren't
SubtextRules 3 years ago 2
most people's ideas of a good time. Of course this is a soap we are talking about.
SubtextRules 3 years ago
Thanks for the clarification, SubtextRules
valeriee1234 3 years ago
As much as I'm a lesbian and am rooting for Otalia to actually HAPPEN, I must post this (most probably) unpopular view of Olivia's behaviour. If I was Nat, I would be appalled of her ranting and raving, and her embarassing both of us!! How childish is she exactly? There is a difference between making a point, and acting like a complete idiot, and I'm afraid that she acted the latter here in my opinion. I'm new to GL. Is this how she normally acts?
valeriee1234 3 years ago
This is how she normally acts OUT. I agree, Liv crosses the line. They are feeding each other's worst fears here. (Just like a real couple!) When Liv & Nat have fought in the past, it's often because Liv is carelessly grandstanding or Nat is chickening out about something - whether it's about work or Rafe or Emma. Which is why they balance each other really well when they're working together...and why this fight was particularly genius.
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 6
Olivia can be a little mental when it comes to love and for good reason. She's gone through alot with men and love. Maybe this controversy with Emma's paper has convinced Olivia being with Natalia would be easier. Wanting it and doing it might be two different thing though. I'm trying to think of movies with that sort of plot, but I'm drawing a blank..
eriklovessoaps 3 years ago
Hmm...the old maybe-it'd-be-easier-to-be-a-lesbian plot? One flick that comes to mind is Kissing Jessica Stein. I don't think that's where GL's going with Liv, though. This character's been on a real journey to find herself for at least three years now, but, except for marrying Jeffrey, most of her evolution has been pretty organic & real. And Liv doesn't seem to think being with Nat will be easy...
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 2
True Olivia can be a little mental when it comes to falling in love, but I don't think she's fooling herself into thinking a relationship with Natalia will be a cake walk. If anything, I think she feels the exact opposite. Natalia runs away every time things get even the tiniest bit complicated and it frustrates Olivia to no end. The real issue is that Liv has these confusing feelings inside of her and she's not sure if she should act on them or just chalk it up to misunderstanding.
SubtextRules 3 years ago 7
Great story Guiding Light I hope they keep it going.
Calico70 3 years ago
The bit at the end where the creepy guy says "whoever he is, he's one lucky guy." .... I agree! If I lived in Guiding Light land, I would so go soap opera crazy to to get Olivia away from Natalie. ;) lol
Solari111 3 years ago
I totally agree with you. You know, I'm italian and maybe I didn't express my self very well. What I meant is that she didn't have a convinced expression, she said that but, for me, she didn't mean that, she didn't feel that in her heart.
gcv83 3 years ago 2
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gcv83 3 years ago
Does anybody know the name of the song playing at the end of the last scene that flows from Nat's scene too Liv's last scene?
wilbe75 3 years ago
Aaron and Andrew - Let You Go
wnikki78 2 years ago
Natalia to frank at 1:29: "You are the best one out there". I have to say, correct me if I'm wrong, that she had a really convinced face expression making this statement.
gcv83 3 years ago
Yes and no. In many ways, Frank is the best *guy* in Springfield. He's spent most of his life cleaning up messes left by Harley, Buzz, Nadine, Coop, Eleni, Mallet & Marina and has always been stable and good. But I think this is Nat convincing herself to buy a Honda when she really wants a Ferrari...
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 11
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gcv83 3 years ago
Actually, as I'm thinking about it more, it really has to be Frank for this sl to go somewhere positive. If Nat was choosing Liv over a totally messed up guy, then ppl could say she's just better than the alternative, but in this case, if she picks Liv with all her faults, it's clearly for true love.
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 3
Sure she believes he's a really good and decent guy, but he doesn't make her heart jump like Olivia.
Grahf 3 years ago 4
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gcv83 3 years ago
I loved the moment where Olivia said she was living with someone. This is not the Olivia of old, the man-eater...she's definitely fallen hard for Nat.
CrystalStar03 3 years ago 8
Olivia of old - In one interview, CC calls her "Ho-livia" :)
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 6
Wow just wow, Olivia is realizing it more and more. And I think Natalia running to the mountains with Frank is going to be her "A-Ha" Moment.
Grahf 3 years ago 8
Yep. As much as I'd rather see Nat spare Liv the torture she'll be in while Nat's away, this trip should be the wake up call Natalia needs to see that she's falling for Olivia, too.
OtaliaRocks 3 years ago 2
I know! The fact Olivia said she was living with someone is a HUGE deal...it implies that the writers are dedicated to the storyline! Thats too big of a statement to mean nothing.... I think Natalia is having moments thinking about being with Olivia, the way she was pausing and looking with Frank! Ohhh i hope this continues and grows into a full on story!
scoop909 3 years ago 6
poor olivia! :,(
me thinks that if nat goes mountains with frank she is gonna see how he is just plain wrong for her....
nallekarkki87 3 years ago 4
Oh, c'mon... what Rafe and Nat would have done without Frank??? Uh, not gotten a job in the prison library? What about what the hell Rafe and Nat would have done without Olivia?????..... *sigh* Positive thoughts, I'm sending... positive thoughts to the writers.....
DanieXJ 3 years ago 4