Ken (Marth) vs PC Chris (Falco) Set 2 Match 3

[saosin5591]

I spot Isai

[CiviIBone]

i rly belieave that ken is better than m2k cuz m2k just upgrade kens combos and use them wich is cheap if u ask me.......

[ShadowPhoenix56666]

@CiviIBone  ken is in no way better than M2k. sure ken invented the marth metagame but M2k took it to a much greater level. Just watch m2k vs crazy return... M2k destroys Ken along with many other pro players

[CiviIBone]

@ShadowPhoenix56666 idc if m2k is has owned him a couple of times there is still a reason why ken is called smash champ

[ShadowPhoenix56666]

@CiviIBone he WAS the king of smash... from around 2003-2006.... m2k was considered the best for 2007-2008... now mango is the champion

[CiviIBone]

@ShadowPhoenix56666 lol srsly epic fail xD w/e idc about marth characters now they fail muahahahahahahahahahahahahahah­ahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[RadicallyDreaming]

@CiviIBone And there is still a reason why M2K is called the best Marth player ever.

[CiviIBone]

@RadicallyDreaming whp cares about that gay mk player <.<

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming that title will always go to KEN never M2K. In fact M2K learned from KEn studying him like he does with evryone.

[CinatasChrist]

Totally unbiased announcers

[KingofallAnimeKings]

KEN COMBO FTW!!

[DryIcx]

Oh man wow did you see that awesome NeuFaiR at 0:37?

[ZMDarkie]

wtf is a neutral forward air..

[silverxmaple]

B Side

[bargblor3]

LOl I feel bad for pc chris this match because hes was getting raped by kens most famous combos and basically legacy i guess that wut happen when he threw the last match lmao

[johnniapplec]

what is DI???:O

[IndigoR]

The commentary is not for those who know the game but for the MLG attendees who aren't be familiar with the game. MLG doesn't just host Melee.

[sleepyx7]

I really don't like to say it, but m2k's results against pc and some others can really put him up higher than ken, in terms of power rankings. Ken is a great player though, and he does play some great mindgames, I think he could give m2k a run if he didn't nearly retire.

[byakuya32]

M2k's combo with Marth is probably better than Ken's now.. though Ken is very likely to be the 2nd or 3rd best Marth currently if he still plays (along with Azen of course)

[abelign1991]

i still think ken had better mindgames than m2k.

m2k is really flashy, but i cant say hes better than ken

[shadowraven94]

hmm so this is the best marth in the world?

[Protoguy1]

At the time of this video I would say he was the best, but since then M2K has pretty firmly established himself as the best Marth.

[ss4chris89]

@Protoguy1 yeah right. Ken will always be the best marth.

[Protoguy1]

@ss4chris89

That's incredibly romantic and naive, but that's fine.

He's certainly the most important Marth throughout Smash history, but the metagame has tremendously advanced since the time of these videos.

[ss4chris89]

@Protoguy1 as true as that is M2k and ken have met before and ken has beaten m2k. only reason why metagame evolved is cuz Ken left.

[ss4chris89]

@Protoguy1 lol if he would have stayed he would have kept up with the meta game and continued to dominate the meta.

[r0flcopter]

@Protoguy1

LOOOL

so romantic

[RadicallyDreaming]

@ss4chris89 Hasn't been since 2006 and probably never will be again.

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming lol if that statement was true he wouldn't have beaten Mango at Evo 2007. get your facts straight. Hes been gone since 2008 not 2006. >.>

[RadicallyDreaming]

@ss4chris89 lol M2K won 5+ tournaments in 2007 compared to Ken's 1, and beat Mango at SCC. What did Ken get at SCC? 7th. Get your facts straight. He's been gone since 2008 but hasn't been the best since 2006. >..

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming lol you still need to get your facts straights. He got lst at EVO 2007 and 2nd that following year. Hes been gone since 2008 not 2006.

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming even if he didn't show impressive tournament showings like the past he still techinically retired 2008 not 2006. ^_^

[RadicallyDreaming]

@ss4chris89 Lol too bad I never said he retired in 2006 retard. He just hasn't been the best player or the best Marth since 2006. M2K became the best Marth player ever in 2007. You don't have a clue.

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming lol you said gone which you basically meant the same thing retard. M2K only became better from learning from KEN which practically invented marth. You don't have a clue. Just stop talking you're so retarded its not even funny anymore... >.>

[RadicallyDreaming]

@ss4chris89 Sigh, you are a moron. I literally never said gone.

Doesn't matter if Ken invented Marth. M2K was and still is better. How about you stop talking since you've consistently proven to be the bigger retard here by some margin?

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming Lol You don't have to say it lieterally. You still meant it. This guy

so stupid and retarded. you're just embarrassing yourself with false statements. Bottom line is if M2K is better than Ken that is only cuz He got everything from Ken and just evolved it but I gurantee you that if Ken stayed he would have made his marth even better and no matter waht Ken was always good at reading his opponents no evolution on that.

[Protoguy1]

@ss4chris89

Oh good, I'm glad we have your "gurantee"...

[RadicallyDreaming]

@ss4chris89 I certainly didn't say it "lieterally" since that's not a fucking word and I only speak in real English. I guarantee you that if you go to any Smash tournament everyone there will say that M2K's Marth is better, which is the real bottom line, because people who are actually involved in the competitive scene (which you clearly aren't) know what's up.

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming if you don't know what literally means then you're even dumber than I thought. Considering I live in Socal and almost all the best players are in CA we talk about the past, present, and future and we all agree that Ken is still the best marth and best player of smash. Think back to MLG NY when he lost to PC chris and his falco. Come MLG Dallas, his marth had changed and had beaten PC Chris. Thats just a little clue that Ken would have evolved in the melee you see today stupid.

[WHATTYEAHH]

@ss4chris89 Ken is long past his prime. Though I'm sure if he went back to tourneys he could probably place high, he is not the best smash player in the world. That could arguably go to Mango (if he would stop sandbagging) or Armada (best in Europe). So much of the metagame has evolved since Ken stopped playing.

[ss4chris89]

@WHATTYEAHH Newsflash. Mango lost PeePee. Granted, its one tourney but it shows the meta is changing yet again and mango may not be the best anymore.

[WHATTYEAHH]

@ss4chris89 Hence why I said if he would stop sandbagging. He doesn't even use his Jiggs anymore. And yeah, you're right, it is just one tourney. He's consistently placed at or near the top in every tourney he's been to, that tournament included.

[ss4chris89]

@WHATTYEAHH news flash, he doesnt main puff anymore but falco. And he wasnt sandbagging At WGF.

Also peepee also beat m2k last tourney before this past one. Its a legit loss. no excuses, sandbagging, etc.

[WHATTYEAHH]

@ss4chris89 News flash, you used "news flash" twice in a row. Anyways, then I totally agree with you. Peepee must be the best in the world then, hands down, right? ...Because he's consistently won most of the big tournaments for the last 3 years since Ken's left. Spot on.

[ss4chris89]

@WHATTYEAHH lol you're bad at sarcasm. lol.

Hes beaten the top melee players now. Pretty sure hes up there now.

[lbblur]

@ss4chris89 i agree with ss4chris89 on this one. ken will always be the king of smash and no one will take his title. Has m2k ever been called the King of Smash? no hes been called the robot. Ken will always be the best because nobody has ever dominated for the length of time that he has. M2K may be better now but if ken joined smash again and studied and played for a month, he would remind everyone why he is the king

[ss4chris89]

@lbblur omg finally someone agrees xD

thanks. but yeah. Ken wont ever come back. hes moved on to bigger things in life. =((

[lbblur]

@ss4chris89 Yeah hes decided to go get a real life instead of playing video games. I think Survivor probably caused this. But even though hes quit hes still the king of smash

[ss4chris89]

@lbblur yuppers xDDd

[ss4chris89]

@RadicallyDreaming you're clearly on the dick of M2K and can't think logically or rationally so I'll leave you and your fan boy ideals be. ^__^

[mrgoodfight14]

@Protoguy1 isnt that becasue ken retired

[Protoguy1]

@mrgoodfight14

M2K had a better Marth than Ken before Ken retired (a fact easily able to be referenced on film), but there's no way to know how good Ken would be if he kept playing. Who knows, maybe he'd still be a top 3 player nowadays if he had kept playing. It's all speculation though.

[mrgoodfight14]

@Protoguy1 did m2k ever beat ken with marth? ( not a retorical question just want to know"

[Protoguy1]

@mrgoodfight14

Sure did.. This is the easiest example: watch?v=fsqlstAQeg8#t=230

I'm pretty sure they had a separate full set too.

[LordFrankencock]

@shadowraven94

I'd argue that Isaiah is actually the best Marth in the world, but that's just me.

[polo030]

keeeeeeeeeeeen combooooooooo jajajaja xDD

[Hawke90]

ha it's almost opposite of what happened before

[smexy348]

why wuld u post dat comment here?