CBS - 9/11 Witness heard explosion before the south tower collapse

[IntaLSM]

Do you think that it couldn't have been an explosion? Something logical like steel snapping and the top part of the building hitting the lower part? But what do I know, I believe the real story...

[Ahlywog]

@IntaLSM It very well might have been steel snapping and the top part of the building hitting the lower floor.  the point is the people tasked with investigating it, NIST, denied the existence of witnesses or audio evidence of "explosions" and so refused to investigate it. Well there ARE witnesses and there IS audio evidence which means NIST is either lying or simply didn't bother to check which makes for a piss poor investigation.

[clipper0udo2]

"There isn't enough evidence to support 9/11 was an inside job."

You are what kind of expert? Who do you imagine yourself to be telling US that there isn't enough evidence? There are enough eye witness accounts and inconsistencies to warrant a genuine criminal investigation actually. Plenty of evidence. You have your eyes wide shut.

[Gideon52480]

@gman586 Nice bait and switch. You know damn well I'm talking about people WHO WERE AT THE WTC on 9/11. I've spoken to many who were there as it happened and they're pretty convinced there's more to the story because of what they saw and heard. I've also spoken to people who witnessed the crash in Shanksville, including the Mayor of Indian Lake and even he questions the bullshit 9/11 Commission when they say the military hadn't heard of UA93 until after the crash. Believe whatever you want.

[Gideon52480]

@gman586 So you don't trust people who were eyewitnesses to the tragedy but you do trust everything the government says who never, ever lies about anything at all. Nice. The fact is you don't want to believe that the world has been lied to about 9/11 and no amount of evidence will sway people like you. You say it sounds far-fetched, but what's far-fetched to many is that for the first time in history, a steel framed building, that housed the OEM(WTC7) collapsed to dust in 8 seconds from fire.

[Gideon52480]

@gman586 No I wasn't. But I'm not making claims that I know exactly what this noise or that noise was. I just posted what the people who were there said. I have been to Ground Zero twice and spoken to many people who WERE there on 9/11 and they not only testify to explosives going off, but seeing what they describe as demolition charges(flashes) before and during the collapse.

[dallas71]

Here's a clue for some of you who have allowed yourselves to be completely conditioned by the mainstream media: things that go "BOOM" and BANG" are, in fact, explosions.

When looking at an orange, don't let someone tell you it's an apple ... and then argue over it. 911 was never investigated. Commissions have never represented true investigations in this country. Groups such as NIST and FEMA have never made it add up. Wake the fuck up ...

[halftimesportscards]

And as for the people saying it sounded like an explosion, of course it was!! Did you expect it to sound like anything different? It doesn't make it a bomb. Only you guys think that. Nobody has ever said it was a bomb except you theorist.

[resonance8888]

Nobody has ever said it was a bomb

no DUH!! realy?

like they gonna admit that

Osama never said he was responsible only the Bush admin. & the media who showed u some fake tapes

[halftimesportscards]

Fox News and other media outlets had broke the news in 2004 that Osama claimed responsibility for the attacks, and I believe they are more credible than the twisted make believe stories that swirl in your mind.

[resonance8888]

yep they also showed firemen who said exactly that &silverstein who said lets pull it who just happend to make an insurance on the build of 2bil

they also showed that it never happen before in history but on that day 3 times and 7 other ''miracles''

and witnesses who never saw a plane at the pentagon(still waiting 4those pix)

and the hole in the ground at flight 97 which was there 10years before

and Bush who lied 100s of times and even admitted that on tv....but all that isnt credible is it?

[resonance8888]

if i learned 1 thing about the US when i studied there than it would be that the media isnt at all credible to make reliable & independent news they all controlled by 4corp. and those are controlled by the gov.

they make the ''make believe stories''

[halftimesportscards]

Videos don't lie... You could see that the plane hit both towers and the Pentagon (The pics are there).. You could see the smoke billowing from the crash site in Pennsylvania. When it comes down to it, there is the visual facts, then there is what you want to see and believe.. Do you have the proof that the videos are "fake?" We give the government too much credit here.. Bush used the first opportunity to strike back for family revenge (and oil?), but he never set up 9/11.

[resonance8888]

I dont have the proof that its real either yep pix are there the plane isnt

its filmed with 100 cameras all images confiscated by FBI 10min after (why didnt they do that at the WTC?)

in Pnslvna yep there is smoke again no plane no luggage no bodies...again never happend in history...all the evidence was removed 2China (thats a crime)

i wont say Bush personally set this up

but come on u got to admit that way 2much things contradicts with each other when it is 2good 2be true it usually is

[halftimesportscards]

I saw security camera footage of the plane going in.. It was from across the street. They couldn't confiscate all the images from the WTC because there were too many due to it being in the middle of one of the busiest cities in the world. Not to mention the tourists' shots. If a plane blows up, it won't look much like a plane anymore. I don't see many contradicting issues. You will find contradictions in anything if you look hard enough.

[resonance8888]

i think they didn't confiscate them

(they weren't suppose 2)

so the world could see it and join them (military or politically) to Iraq and make a patriot act

but anyway i saw 1000s off ours on this matter but never saw any other footage then those 4 frames at the pentagon (without a plane)

cause that's the only thing i might change my mind on that,

if they really wanted 2 debunk 4example Loose Change then why didn't they show us just 1 frame with a plane?

do you have a link on that?

[halftimesportscards]

The noises (you guys call explosions) were the supports giving way and the floors collapsing on each other. There's a hole in the side of the building, and you have 40 floors sitting on 10-15 nearly non-existing floors on fire. It was physics (not explosives) that brought the buildings down.

[Gideon52480]

Oh nice...so you were there?

[halftimesportscards]

No, but I'm not a complete moron to believe that is was explosions.. Have you ever seen a controlled demo? The charges have to be put on the outside of the buildings on the supports. They also create flashes that we don't see. As for the ATF agent the other person was describing in the video, I imagine he was combing the area for anything suspicious or maybe looking for survivors. No evidence of explosives were found.

[alienspacecentereast]

May I ask you what this ATF agent are doing onsite..? See the clip again, clear footage of his ATF-jacket!!!

No matter what, there was explosions caught on film and too many witnesses to subbase explosions...

[gosciu555]

@halftimesportscards

I think its funny how all the people who talk about "physics" don't know any. You're manipulating the reality. First of all NONE OF THE FLOORS collapsed "on each other" so there goes your silly argument. Second, the floors WERE NOT burned out, the structure was not damaged at all since these small fires cannot damage the structural integrity. The building came down like in a controlled demolition.

[WNanette]

at 00:39, are those the doors to WTC7, please?

[Gideon52480]

Yes they are.

[WNanette]

HEY, Gideon, Hello! ^_^

I wish wish wish someone would have a clip or better a still or two of this supposed 'huge gash' taken out of the so side of WTC7, supposedly causing it to implode. I haven't been able to locate one yet - have you?

I have been able to screen capture several interesting before & just after images, from google etc, which show a brown (dirt) line aiming directly toward the Pentagon in the green lawn, and NO airplane fuselage on top of 5 or 6.

[WNanette]

proudfootz,

Other than blind willing idiots following other blind, willing sheep to the slaughter, I can only think it's like the wife who can't believe her husband is screwing around on her.

Nobody, so far, with the exception of Dennis Kucinich (the Jim Garrison of our time), not even Merkle of Germany(!) who has enough prestige or clout to do anything to these monsters, has even begun to try. It's been 6 friggin years now!

[begotka2007]

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HELP ME FIX THE MESS!! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!

[proudfootz]

Why is it that eyewitnesses keep taliking about explosions when those who weren't there know there were never any explosions?

[Xenomorph911]

Good point, I guess first hand eyewitnesses don't matter to the sheeple.