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  • @darkprince013 how do u no

  • Hey! It sounds like all the crap rotaries!

  • @FirstMTwo Crap? You do realize that a 1.3L rotary engine can produce 900+ WHP right?

  • @swpilot2494 I know the potential a rotary has for power, But I also know the rotary as an unreliable daily driver. They need constant rebuilding of the apex seals sooner or later regardless of maintenance, that would be considered a crap daily driver to me... I like a car that can produce power, & be daily driven on the roads. Not something that has to sit in the garage and taken out occasionally for race days.

  • Timing belt is a couple teeth off. Ask me how I know... lol

  • too bad ASE stands for Ask Someone Else

  • failed rebuild of a failed car..

  • lol junk

  • Like a knock sensor, there should be a sensor buried in he cylinder head that gives a digital compression reading. Compression checks would then be obsolete, and world peace would be one step closer. And all alien moon bases would be converted into McDonalds restaurants.

  • I thought all Honda's had interference engines (IE unless both cams stopped with all valves closed (not possible i thought) the pistons would hit the valves (Hince Interference Engine), thereby destroying the pistons and valves of the offending cylinder? I luckily know my 4AGE engine isn't since it's belt snapped @ 7,700 RPM :)

  • thanks to akio, gdog and fomoco this video has become a major collision of keyboard diarrhea at the intersection of stupid arguments and fucking blind

  • broken timing belt valves are open

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  • @akio2589 of course you can take a compression test anyway you want, im just saying the PROPER way to do it is to do it like i said. About the engine spinning over yes it will affect it and by a lot. I race dirt modifieds and we were able to lose 15 lbs of compression by just letting the battery die some

  • Hey! watch the video and the valves never gets closed, so, obviously, there isn't compression, the exhaust valve is open when the intake is closed.... anyone see another thing?? xD!

  • Moron test i think eather the test gage is no good . or the piston has a hole in it LOL Ha hahaha 

  • Hey! sorry for the question, but I have the same sound in a toyota zz engine, It was adjusted, but the noise isn't from "no compression" sounds like starter motor without enough force to generate the RPM's to start the engine, I say it cause when it sound in my car, I check the starter and spin so slow, when I put it again, the engine start for only one time and never start again.... maybe...

  • That's a sound of a weak battery first of all.

  • Based on ur argument ur saying that it doesn't matter how fast the engine turns, the end result is the same. Right? Wrong! Y dont u do a Compression check turning the engine by hand (wrench, ur gunna need it with all those plugs still in) and get back to me. I GUARANTEE u it will be lower, probably way out of spec. If u are so right then why do the majority agree with the comment above urs???? Im done, dont quit ur day job : )

  • Look, it obvious u have no idea what u r doing, if u have touble mixing up plug wires and working on warm engines u probably should not be doing a compression test. U will ALWAYS get a more accurate test when ALL plugs are pulled. FACT, if u leave the plugs in the starter has a harder time turning the engine over resulting in slower revolutions and lower compression.

  • For all the haters go check your piston return springs and blinker fluid

  • lol pretty sure it didnt take them 4 years to fix it :p

  • install the pistons next time.....or the rings..or the valves ...or the cams..or the crankshaft

  • h23 shit.....

  • Its amazing how so many people cant hear low compression on one cylinder. That sound of one cylinder not pumping is easy to spot if you know what to look for, as it no compression at all on any. Great video.

  • I think the problem is its filled with pixy dust

  • Wrong timing or you forgot to put the piston rings on:D

  • is that a vtec

  • stop pretending you know what your talking about, disconect the exahust so you can remove the 1st and 5th piston... Remove the left hand turbo valve and set your timing on the intake mani, get a new cat-back and feed it meow mix and it will be fixed.. Screw you guys, im a damn amazing car god...

  • why does every person in this world try to be an automotive technician, when the majority is probably back yard bob with grease on his @ss.

  • it's an electric motor now:P

  • my b18b1 had the same problem. it cranked smooth and fast. it turned out to be my valve clearance so the air was leaking out the valves because it was still open

  • lol seems like hes doing it at school

  • Stuck valve? broken rings? hole in piston crown? blown head gasket? crack in the block?

  • learning sounds is great for experience

  • sounds like an old man rapidly coughing

  • Connect the flywheel to the engine.

  • what happened? did you forget to put the piston rings in?

  • The V8s always outlast the rest. I wan't to get V8 tattooed in the middle of my forehead.

  • @TheCottonTop V8's can pass everything on the road! (Except a gas station!) Give me HONDA!!!!

  • @TheCottonTop engine durability has almost nothing to do with cylinder layout/number.

  • @akio2589 while doing a compression test it will be impossible to determine if the timing is wrong, since for this test the fuel pump and coil pack/ distributor will be disconnected, you dont want the engine to start up here, you just want to crank it over to check compression.

  • To anyone who thinks it matters if you remove all the plugs or not: It doesn't.... You're only testing the compression on ONE cylinder, therefore, the OTHER cylinders DON'T matter. Cylinders are sealed individually... If the other plugs made any difference, the cylinders would have to be connected. This is not the case. Sounds like it's timed wrong.

  • @akio2589 Its t take strain of starter and bat, but I spose when you only have 4 lil baby pistons you can crank all day. The day you upgrade to a real mans motor and you have 8 slugs to crank at 10:1 the starter gets hot and starts to drain the batt. 2 strokes need all plugs removed and need to be at WOT. Go edemacate yourself you twat.

  • @moparerrnocar That's not what I was arguing, someone said it had no compression BECAUSE the plugs were out. Not only that, this is a four cylinder, FOUR STROKE w/ a compression ratio of around 10:1 and WOT or not, it would still have SOME compression, which this motor does not. And it would take some talent to get that guage wrapped in the belt but based on your attention to detail, you could probably manage. You should probably know what your talking about before telling someone they're wrong

  • @akio2589 Not to mention, most tools like yourself would leave the plug wires attached and end up rapping the CT in a belt demanding a refund and lawsuit. Its also a way for the company to save its ass. No plugs = no wires. No wires = no starty

  • @moparerrnocar Oh and your further an idiot because you don't need to crank "all day." It should only take a few seconds on the starter to test compression. It'll reach it's max compression in about 3 compression strokes which is about 10 secs on the starter and even with the other plugs in, the starter and batt would handle that just fine. On this car, you'd have to unplug the coil wire from the dist. to keep it from starting. Or did you take the time to read what I said this time, tool?

  • @akio2589 This engine is most definitely timed wrong. Even with a dead cylinder you would still see SOMEWHAT of a compression figured. I hear a steady engine crank which also tells the signs of a miss-timed engine. Re-set the timing marks and try again. She'll fire up just fine.

    for more automotive videos, go to my ASE certified youtube page. DIYautotech.

  • @akio2589 You are somewhat correct, I agree with you that it is timed wrong. It sounds like either the timing belt is not where it is supposed to be or the cam or crank gears are not aligned to the belt properly. And I agree with you the other spark plugs left in the other cylinders won't effect the pressure reading. But having the other spark plugs out greatly reduces the load on the starter and will speed up the test.

  • @akio2589 Its not the fact that you're only testing only cylinder its the fact that leaving the other plugs in will increase the load on the starter which will cause it to turn slower, not by a lot but the slower it turns the more loss in pressure due to blowby. Every little bit counts.

  • @KenBobBad I wasn't arguing that it hindered the process, I arguing that the fact the other plugs were out wouldn't affect the pressure reading on the cylinder being tested.

  • @akio2589 But your not testing timing either...... epic failure.

  • @barixkhan The procedure I was describing had to do with testing the compression, not the timing. In fact, the only thing I mentioned about timing was a sidenote on the end stating that a timing issue was the reason for no compression. And the timing I'm talking about isn't spark timing (YOU fail), but valve timing. Screw that up and you will, indeed, have no compression and/or your valves will kiss the top of your pistons. This one isn't far enough out of time for that to happen.

  • @akio2589 ur an idiot, u are supposed to remove all spark plugs even when checking just 1 cylinder. u r also suposed to make sure the throtle is WFO, battery is fully charged and engine is warmed up (if possible). I bet every time u've done a compression check its been low...

  • @robd23auto no YOUR an idiot because it doesn't matter weather you remove all the plugs or not as long as the coil wire is disconnected from the distributor. if you remove all the plugs, that's not necessary, however you have a chance of mixing up plug wires. So leaving the plugs in, disconnecting the coil wire, holding the throttle to the floor and cranking for about 5-10 secs is a better alternative. MOST manuals have compression specs for a warm AND a cold engine. Cold engine will be lower.

  • @robd23auto So if you wanna remove 4, 6, or 8 plugs from a hot engine and risk mixing up plug wires, be my guest. Of course if you don't have a distributor, then unplug the ignition module. If you don't have either of those, then you have a C.O.P. system and have to take all those off to keep it from starting. I am well aware of compression checking procedures. Your argument is invalid.

  • @robd23auto u are supposed to i like your words tells me you know nothing lol

  • @akio2589 you obviously have no idea what your talking about. the reason you pull the plugs is because since their is no compression(since the plugs are pulled) the engine will spin over faster. you have to do this in order to get an accurate compression reading as well as making sure the battery is 100% charged and the throttle open all the way.

  • @Gd0g427 Lemme tell you a little something about fuel injection: plugs in or not, the injectors still fire. And now since all the plugs are out, instead of the fuel passing harmlessly out through the exhaust, it's now a nice fine mist all around the engine compartment and a fire hazard because the plug wires, which you now have laying about, have no way to discharge the arc. So it finds the shortest path, through perhaps a small crack in the wire, and ignites the fuel. Now you have no hair.

  • @akio2589

    You are a retard. If you know how to do a compression test properly, there will be no fuel going through the injectors....

    Also, you are supposed to take ALL the plugs out, less energy is wasted if only 1 cylinder is under compression rather than all 4. Why wouldn't you? You will be removing them anyways..... It just makes it easier for the engine to turn over and ur battery/starter work easier.

  • @ZlatanTDR Tell ya what... You go and get an ASE certification and come back and THEN tell me I'm wrong, and I'll still call you an idiot. Better yet, go out and give what I said a shot and see if you see any difference in the CR with a warm engine in both cases. If I'm wrong, which I'm not, then good on ya. If I'm right, it doesn't matter because you'd probably lie about it anyway. So until I'm proven wrong, STFU and get off my back about it.

  • @akio2589

    Wow you are really pissed.... You think ASE certification means shit? Use your logic.... Take all 4 plugs out, easier rotation, less strain on the battery. You are clearly a student in the learning and are mad you're youtube debates are failing.

  • @ZlatanTDR Actually, I'm a Navy Nuke. I used to work for our town mechanic, who was an ex GM tech, before I joined the Navy. Yea, I'm pretty sure an ASE cert makes a difference. It's no longer a debate because this is the last I'm gonna say about it.

  • @akio2589

    Nice try, you still look like a moron. 

  • @ZlatanTDR And you're still acting like a child.

  • @akio2589

    It's just youtube man. No reason to get all offended and insecure. Believe me, I learn a LOT from youtube, and you should learn how to be open to new information, and accept the fact that you are human, and humans are wrong sometimes :D

  • @Gd0g427 You don't need the engine to spin faster than it normally does when it's turning over. Taking out is just a waste of time. It's unnecessary and you don't need to do anything special to the battery. You're over-complicating it. How freakin' hard is it to pull a plug out, pull the coil wire, screw in the compression gauge, and turn the key for about 7 seconds. Done. No fire, no problem, nice accurate reading.

  • @Gd0g427 I have never EVER had ANY issue taking compression readings like this and I've been doing this crap from quite some time. Never low, unless it had an issue, no accidents, no crossed plug wires, no problems whatsoever.

  • @akio2589 The engine turns over easily without all the other cylinders compressing. That's the only point

  • "HEY WHAT DO YA THINK THIS BELT DOES AND WHERE DOES IT GO"...F A I L

  • who forgot the piston rings...shit, who forgot the pistons

  • No compression at all?? LOL did they forget to put the connecting rods in?

  • OOOOOH...that does not sound nice

  • this is what happens when women work on cars...

  • Just that starter whining

  • Leakdown test for better idea of where problem is. Avoids the issue of cranking speed dropping, old drilled out spark plug makes a nice adapter. Add a air compressor+ a regulator (usual in a half decent garage) and all you need is a pressure gauge that goes up to 100PSI, and a T fitting. Connect one end of the T to the air line via a plug that's had a small (1mm) diameter hole drilled out, and other to the fitted up spark plug. Car in gear, and one wheel up. Turn wheel to rotate engine.

  • "whoops i forgot to double clutch it"

  • @celtic5yamum lol

  • wow all these people talking about the VTEC like they know something about it XD for the people that dont know listen up the VTEC wont and cant, in most cases, even be engaged till the upper RPMs and it only engages an extra rocker arm and locks then all togeather look it up there are videos and text about it all over net

  • these jokes about hondas vtec and rice are funny and all but this happened to my celica, some helpful input would be great!

  • um of course its not going to have compression

  • hahahahaha learn basic mechanics

  • VTEC JUST FUCKED UP YO

  • No compression? You should check your front headlight. :P

  • With that sound, did you really need a gague to confirm there's no compression?

  • oohhh, that's why the "check engine" light is on uh? XD

  • Check the radiator

  • maybe your v tec doesn't work....

  • Its fine it just needs a ridiculous and unaerodynamic bodykit, a massive rear wing, a half foot diameter exhaust and an OTT Stereo system

  • Maybe he needs a bigger rear wing...

  • v tech baby, hahaha fuck honda

  • Oh i was helping them. I drilled little holes in the piston for a total of 2.2 lbs of weight removal. So worth it in the ricer industry.

  • Did you guys not set the Timing right?

  • better call japan, need some scientists

  • Why would you post this?

  • @BMXJeff rto let people hear how it sounds when you dont have compression! so you know when to change pisron rings or  just get a new engine cuz its to old!

  • i'll loen you a can of air ok, lol.

  • How not to rebuild an engine

  • pop... hey, what was that? 

  • timing wrong??? no spark in whichever cylinder>? did you guys ever find out what was wrong?>

  • i think they set the timing marks wrong...noobs

  • @davidrussorules On a high compression motor like a preludes, not setting the timing correctly would lead to valves hitting pistons. There is no indication that this has occurred in the vid... but he's probably tried starting it before filming this and bent them all to shit so they aren't seating. LOL...

  • @scrfce123 if the valves are bent to shit, there would be noise indicating that. the most likely cause is something like a head gasket leaking like shit, or mismatched valves and seats.

  • @pepene93 Generally, if the valves are bent, they will be stuck open, yet be tucked out of the way of the piston - so you won't hear any funny noises after they have been hit by the piston. Hard to mismatch valves and valve-seats, especially considering that valve seats can't be replaced at home.

  • @davidrussorules its not a video game, dumbass. and judging by the obvious uhmm..thought that was put into your comment, you know a lot less than they did.

  • @pepene93 what r u talking about..video games my ass ...nd i said thins cuz my cousins rsx types that is mildly built was of 1 tooth on the exhaust side nd it still ran but had only like 70psi of compression..nd i probly know more about cars than u

  • @davidrussorules haha, you dotn call people noobs if you know shit. so get the hell outta here

  • This type of failure usually results from the timing belt jumping sync. Interference engines do not suffer mistakes. Hopefully only the exhaust valves are bent. Shattered pistons and cracked valve guides often accompany this condition.

    There are 2 kinds of Honda owners; those who believe the car is some kind of maintenance-free perpetual motion machine, and those who used to think that and ended up lunching a motor and are now fastidious about regular maintenance. 

  • u failed when u choose to build a prelude ... dipshit

  • @TLEVSTRAIGHT i love little kids like this, bet this fag doesnt even own a car haha look at the videos he comments on theyre all honda lol silly little boy

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  • charge your bat prime your engin, hook plugs up right

  • Hey what are these little round things?? Oh, they are the piston rings. OH FUCK!!!

  • They most of forgotten the rings or gap.

  • Everyone dosent know shyt about that. One day when your car sounds like that u be like wtf? Thats lost of compression buddi.. You could start the car with one plug out on a civic thats y they are so reliable. But in this vid he had no compression thats y u hear the whistleing sound plus the gauge was hooked up right and read no compression which means the rings are done...

  • thats the sound of no spark plugs

  • u have to take the spark plug out before u put the gauge in

  • did you forget the head gasket?or a few pistons?

  • sounds like a can opener haha

  • it IS!

  • BAHAHAHHA LMAO TRUE!!! :D

  • its one of those craigslist motors haha

  • LMFAO

  • @lawizzard hahaha, very true.

  • your valve are leaking or the head gasket?

  • all that work for nothing man that sucks. did you figure out what the problem was?.

  • ... U have to take em all out .... so the engine wil turn faster .. and whit a fully opend throttle

  • "we had some left overs....big C things...don't know what they are...oh well..."

  • This made me laugh. Just take out ONE spark plug not all of them for that test.

  • haha

  • @Nosillla

    if you test all the cylinders you pull all sparkplugs.

    it allow less effort to the starter to turn the engine.

    it crank faster too.

  • @michaelovitch yeah your right, always pull each spark plug out.

  • @michaelovitch ya but there only 4 cylinders and a properly opaarating starter system should have no problom crankingthe moter ... what your point a Compresion test has nothing to do with cranging the moter fast ,,, i think you are talking throw your hat :) ( bull shit rules i gess }

  • @Nosillla It doesn't matter how many you take out, they were probably out anyway for a different reason.

  • @Nosillla you can take out all of them, it doesnt matter. the compression tester only tests one piston at a time. not all of them. so it doesnt matter.

  • @Nosillla Did you pay people to thumb up your comment?

  • @Nosillla who told u that lie?

  • @Nosillla

    No, it doesnt matter if all the spark plugs are out, because each cylinder is sealed off from the other. So a compression test only measures the compression in one cylinder.

  • @ndogg360 wrong, the engine works with all cylinders sealed (besides small piston ring gap). I've seen inaccuracies in readings all caused because every spark plug was removed during the test.

  • @Nosillla My maxima will run with one spark plug out, at least in theory. One of the coil packs went bad, so one plug had no spark, and it just ran like shit.

  • @Nosillla fag ur suppose to take out all of them for the test

  • @Nosillla Your comment makes no sens, master :)

  • @Nosillla

    This made me laugh. If you don't know a shit about mechanic, don't post anything... elese everybody will laugh at you ^^

  • try to start drive in 5 th gear fool

  • so what did you do wrong?

  • o dam...maybe thats what those round metal things were for lol

  • those big round things are called Camshafts.

  • Cam GEARS.

  • HEY WHO FORGOT THE PISTONS?

  • " HEY WHO FORGOT THE PISTON RINGS!!! "

  • @mykatamari haha Oh man

  • @mykatamari lmao

  • LOL = LOVL !!! (very loud)

  • @mykatamari more like who forgot to bolt the con rods the the crank lol

  • @mykatamari lol

  • @mykatamari Probably the same guy that forgot the connecting rods. Yup...was Ronnie Ricer!

  • lol nice comment

  • what makes you say that

  • @formula88 Bullshit, my buddy has an '89 with the 2.0L SOHC, and it hauls friggin ass. Over 320,000 miles as well :P

  • @formula88

    prelude was not a fail to begin with you dumb twat

  • @LucLeFou how come they stopped making it then?

  • @UnwrittenEpitaph

    how should I know, but most good cars are discontinued..so stfu 

  • lol i wonder if its one of those times you feel so blonde ** " why is there no compression?" " hey arnt these piston things go in the engine?" lol i can see it happening

  • well....you gotta start somewhere

  • Usually it goes, blub, blub, blub, blub

  • there are no spark plugs in your head...

    it should be sticking out if there was, you can even see it when the valve cover is on when u look down. Stupid people...-.- im sure even with timing off it wouldnt have that effect.

  • Learn something about cars. They were checking ONE cylinder for compression. The compression tester screws into where the spark plugs go, which creates the seal. This video shows that even after the engine is put together and the compression tester making the seal, there is still no compression.

    Something went pretty badly.

  • could be a thousand things, but if there is no compression definatly bad cam timing, these valves stay open

  • he was checking one at a time with a compression tester yes the title should say failed compression test but it doesnt

  • you know nothing about cars .. look what he's doing .. checking compression ..