Can you imagine how much more of a great film Galdiator would have been if they would of used vangelis, EPIC, The score by zimmer was weak in spots, very! What a shame and a waist! He would hae been perfect check out 1492 awesome!
The Italians of 2000 years ago were far more impressive, memorable, important and successful than the italians of today. I wonder if students studying history in Greece, Italy and Egypt ever look at each other amd say, "Look at us today. Who fucked up?"
You don't know what you're talking about. The Italian Empire was rife with corruption, thrived on slavery and bloodshed and eventually drove itself into the ground. Just like modern American or European society it had its good points and its bad points.
Amongst many other factors,like climate,that was much colder in ancient times(more prosperous lands) the main reason of their decay is christianity,both the greek orthodox church and the catholic church weakened and corrupted completely their civilizations.
Nations are like a human being (their composition) they change their nature over time,and both have their glorious moments and weak moments.
@StellandBlood Who ever you are, you don't even know what the hell your talking about!!! In the time of Julius Caesar, Rome was so corrupt it wasn't even funny... And that was in the BC time, before Christ! Christianity wasn't even a dream then!!! And the Romans were killing their own senitors, Roman culture was corrupt and very cruel. So you had better check your facts SHITHEAD!!
@StellandBlood You don't know shit!!! There wasn't even any churches built in Rome unitl around 350 AD. And before that the Roman empire was divided into east and west... By the time of Constantine, the western empire had fallen to outside forces! Constantine only let christians floorish after the great christian slaughter of 303-305 AD.! He let it grow for a political move!! And the Roman empire was dying long before that from the inside, the senate!! Get your facts straight, dipshit!!
@horselips This is what happend when you have a Liberal socialist Government running italy for decades. Hinders creativity. you can also say the Church has hindered italian society. the Pope orders Galileo imprisoned indefinitely under house arrest. If the church was around 2000 years ago in rome you would never have had rome as it was back then goood or bad
@horselips It aint about who fucked up ; I bet you feel tough talkin down to us now. Here's the truth ; We(Romans), Greeks and Egyptians had our time at the top. Now it's your turn and frankly, Id sooner say you're fucking up worse than we ever did. You have us, the Greeks and the Egyptians to use as a back drop and you still manage to make mistakes that reflect you haven't learned shit from us except how to walk around with a chip on your shoulder. Don't worry, we'll impress the world yet again
@Praetorian107 :I wasn't talking down to you at all. Indeed, nothing lasts forever & the USA will also pass. And in the future, students studying our meteroric history will also ask who fucked up, & the answer will be "we bankrupted ourselves, morally and finacially, with liberalism." I hope you do impress the world again. First you need to knock up your women and recover your birthrate, then deport your Muslim invaders, then recover your faith and fill your churches. Good luck to all of us.
no one told me they had this for a Boris Vallejo tribute. He is one of the greatest artists in the world when it comes to pencil pen and color, he has no equal.
Its exactly the same! Rome has been a republic and since in a republic the senate decides for the good of its citizens it speaks and acts for that purpose. 2nd: this has nothing to do with knowing latin.
After learning that the priests had made there decission, Remus stormed of the hilltop in a rage,grasping a large stone he charged at Romulus, the two brothers struggled, Romulus threw down his brother in a rage, taking the stone from Remus's hand and bludgening him to death. Another story is that while planning the sacred boundaries of the city,Remus was not taking this seriously enough, and Romulus killed him on the spot.
Some of this story is somewhat unclear, in the years leading up to his brother Romulus's death, the two brothers quarelled over who should rule, they approached the augeries, the Augeries were the first priests of Rome, the priests found it hard to decide on which brother would be suited for the job, so they instructed both men to take an opposite hilltop, which ever hilltop the greater number of birds gathered to would determine the gods decission. The birds flocked to Romulus's hilltop
Romulus and Remus according to legend,were cast out by there jealous uncle to die after birth,there uncle shamed that his sister a vestal vergin had broke her oath of cellibacy to the gods,they were from the latin city known as Albalonga,left to die they were found and suckled by a she wolf. eventually they were found by a kindly shepherds wife and raised to maturity, and then there destiny was made clear to them by her. They returned and userped there uncle who ruled in there name.
We can say that our nation was founded by intelligent men who wanted to break free of tyrany,while our founding fathers were designing our nation,they had Rome very much in thought,the saga of that ancient republic is truly one of the worlds greatest examples of success and failure! She grew from very humble beginnings,a small settlement of vagrants and drifters,a primative little town fortified with wooden walls and surrounded by land hungry yet formidable tribes not wanting to share land.
There survives a dispatch from the Prefect of the Praetorian Guard (at Spalato) to Emperor Diocletian that states: "My Lord Caesar, we have discovered that half the slaves in the Imperial Household are Christians, and so is your wife. What, Sire, are your orders?" Unfortunately, Diocletian's response is lost.
Romans were related to Latin's,who as Vince said were a Italic people...unfortunatly,what Vince forgets is the Barbarian[Vestgoth] invasion of Roman territory..so,at best italians are a mix between Romans and Vestgoths
I still don't think most people will ever appreciate the exten that the Roman Empire has shaped the modern world. Even with countries that weren't discovered in their time. If the Romans hadn't done what they'd done the world would be an entirely different place.
Could you all just stop discussing such stupidities? The Romans borrowed from the Greeks, the Greeks borrowed from Eastern cultures and so on... So what? That happened thousands of years ago! We're all sharing a great legacy in Europe. Just STOP doing all this nationalistic irrational babble! It's fcking nonsense!
The Greeks too mostly from Nubian and Egyptian culture, but you're right that they took from Eastern cultures as well. And I agree about all this idiotic nationalistic psychobabble.
fuck off orpheus was the son of APOLLO,AND KALLIOPH,idiot!a greek god! and he was married to euridiki! a greek god,who gave civilization to everybody!
the orphics new the global shape of the sky as well the two first laws of the apparent motion of the calestial shere. they distinguished the stars into "PYROENTAS" THAT IS fiery AND INTO THE SEVEN PLANETS,WHICH THEY CALLED AFTER THEIR TODAYS NAMES WHICH CONSEQUENTLY are of O rphic origin!
they determined the ecliptic,and the term"DROMOS" which Archimedes usesin "psamiths"4,5, for the ecliptic, they developed A strology, and ANGAEUS.."ARGONAUTIKA"210 WAS THE FIRST astrologer,-astronomer. and they did thousands more things!
you can not take the truth! read carefully my comments!!!!so you thought orpheus was not greek?...big mistake!he wrote a great book!IN GREEK! I have it! IN GREEK!and he was a great greek, who travel all over the world giving civilization to every nation!
The Phoenicians had not vowels ! if they did not have vowels ...how come THEN they used the letter A =ALPHA? IT'S A TERRIBLE LIE! they never use it! never! it's a lie! no written works of phoenicians was ever found with Greek letters that means they never wrote with those letters!!
the orphic hymns give us information on the astronomical knowledge of the greeks the year 11,860 b.c,the greeks in the orphic times had conceived the heliocentric idea,who later continued by Pythagoras,and Aristarchus!
all this people they took the greek letters,and THEY modified them! that's why they have not actual meaning in their language! like the word Y-PSILON!...IT'S ROOT has an absolute meaning with the use of the the word! Y IS A CAVITY THAT CONTAINS SOMETHING liquid ,...Y-GRON=WET Y-dwr=water...K-Y-MA=TIDE...AND THIS LETTER COULD HAVE NEVER HAVE DERIVE from an other nations language!it was born along with the greek language!
the word B-BOH=NOISE B-ORIAS=WIN B- RUSH=FAUCET B-0GAW=MOANING it has absolute connection with with it's letter!that means the letter and the language were made at the same time!
Any half-brained man knows that the Greek alphabet was a borrowing of the Phoenician. Don't even get started with that man. You're making yourself look even more foolish.
you are the most uneducated moron! orpheus was GREEK! 100% MORON! HE GAVE THE CIVILIZATION to all these nations!stupid idiot! are you doing just because you want to say something,or you are a complete ignorant? the phoenicians stupid! took the alphabet from the ancient greeks! read what i am writing stupid!
Do you want me to continue me! the boring psychopath ,...this is how you write the word! the Greek word that is!!!!...OR YOU WANT ME TO STOP HEAR,SMART ASS?....the letters ,the grammata of the greek language,are a greek matter,and not phoenician!
IT MEANS THAT THE PELASGIANS [THE OLDER GREEKS ]HAD FIRST THESE LETTERS,and orpheus gave them to them!and palamidis and the rest,gave them to the rest of the greeks!...DIODOROS SICYLUS HIST.BOOK 3-67,5-74!
the first alphabet is the one that the greeks created !after the greatest civilization the greeks created,it would be IMPOSSIBLE that they took their grammata from an uncivilized nation like the phoenicians! no written evidence of any works of the phoenicians EVER FOUND! IGNACE J.GELD GLWSSOLOGIST
you are so ignorant! I DID NOT MADE UP ETYMOLOGIES ,i am writing the TRUTH! BRABO came out from the word brabeion! since the ancient times!...and i am not defeated, stupid!and i never admit that i was not sure! stupid idiot! i am sure 100% about what i am saying and do! stupid I SAID as i was writing moron!i forgat the E BRABION=BRABEION!
IN GREEK IDIOT WE HAVE MANY ES......ei...oi...i....h.....u...ui....do ypou understand ignorant? and it's not me that underestimate "your civilization"..but him! read the comments carefully now!!!1
nobody can underestimate the great civilization of the greeks! it's untouchable! the greeks greece,and greek civilization will disappear!when the world will disappear!
NO you did not help the Greek in 1453!you left them in the hands of the barbarian Turks! you left them to die! and they all most did!for 400 years we had the most unworthy ,uneducated , beings on our shoulders!you let the most rational people ,to be destroyed by the most ugly race on earth
Speaking of foreign influence...the modern Greek language has many Italian borrowings...for example, the Italian word "porta" is used instead of the Greek word "thyra."
In fact he has invented that our word "bravo" derives from the ancient greek "brabion". Well, you have to know "brabion" doesn't exist in ancient greek, but only in modern greek, and it derives exactly from our italian "bravo"!!! LOL !
Without a doubt you've outclassed him. It's a bit sad that he has to resort to making up etymologies. A bit disappointing. Had he simply bowed out by even admitting that he wasn't sure, he could have preserved dignity without "accepting defeat."
Regardless, I don't understand why he started attacking Roman civilization and Italy in general. Italy and Greece are allies, after all... Has he not heard of the expression "Una faccia, una razza"? Most Greeks have...
Greeks and Italians have been fighting on the same side for thousands of years, my friend...
It is of no surprise that Italians, for instance, formed one of the major parties helping to defend Constantinople in 1453 from the Ottoman Turks. We were meant to be together.
Reazzuro90, of course. We Greeks are fond of you. You are our best neighbors. There is a bond between us and it will never break. Italy is nice, Italian people are almost like us. "We are meant to be together"....such a nice comment!!!
brabeion= athlon en tois agwsi... if you can not read ANCIENT GREEK it's not my problem!
the GREEK civilization does not own anything to anybody! everybody did take from it,and many fought against it! but never were able to reach as hight!
from the the long time of it's existence. God waked and lighten, from the sacred light ,mother of the first human,and the Greek internal spirit! present of the gods!HELLAS! WE ARE ALL WAYS going to PROTECT YOU!from the distorters of your legacy !!!!
im sure greece thanks you for your effort...but in all fairness, the crusaders ultimately paved the way for 500 dark years of brutal occupation and genocide by sacking constantinople
stop arguing..everythong os borrowed from somewhere..if nobody borrowed anything then we would be reinventing the wheel over and over again. greece influenced italy, and italy influenced greece..no surprise really.
fuck off stupid! i forgot the e,you stupid idiot! you find a little think stupid individual to get to me!!![EKSON HMIN KAI TA TWN ALLWN DIKAIA BRABEUEIN] you are in despair! you don't know how to "fight" with me anymore! there in nothing you can do! got you!...tomorrow i will get back to you! kalhnyxta!
the words archaic,lexicon,glossary ,thesaurus ,grammar,orthograph,and thousands more!very basic meanings ,and not just words! as you are writing all along!
I know the great contribution (from the latin CONTRIBUTUM) of ancient greek to the specialistic (from the latin "SPECIALEM") languages (from the latin "LINGUA") and more. But I didn't understimate what the ancient (with the latin root "ANTE") greeks did. You are the one who has understimated ("under" + the latin "AESTIMARE") the Romans.
SO! I HAVE NOTHING IMPORTANT TO SAY!arrogant italian for nothing?,,,I HAVE A LOT TO SAY! I DID NOT EVEN STARTED YET!you thought you had to do with somebody who had no clue! eeeee? i am a historian! and a rechercher ,and most importantly ,a greek! who happened to have the most perfect language on earth! to give me information about everything!
Ancient times, late republican ages of Cicero (not kikeron), when greek was of course much more refined than latin. But it's exactly since Cicero and then, under Augustus, with Vergil, Horatius, ecc, that latin becomes the one we study today. Who has true culture doesn't write quotes without knowing the context of them.
bravo it comes from the greek word BRABION!...WHEN IN ANCIENT times were playing theater! the audiences use to shout ..brabion,brabion= award,award! and the ITALIANS THEY TOOK THE WORD AND THEY ADAPTED IT!... so you found a little "italian" word that thought was italian!...and you started saying nonsense again?
you use the words pain[PONOS],ALLERGIC,[ALERGIKOS],OEDEMA,HEMOGLOBIN,THERMOMETER, WHEN YOU GO SEE YOUR DOCTOR! YOU USE THE WORDS THEATER,CINEMA,CINEMATOGRAPHY,when you go to see a movie! you have to close your math now! i could go on and on for ever!
I've already explained the origins (from the latin "ORIGINEM") of the word Rome (from the name of an Etruscan family ), retard (from the latin "RETARDATUM"). But you are so uneducated (from the latin "IN" + "EDUCTUM")! Now you are really (from the latin "REALIS") breaking my balls: you are the classical (from the latin "CLASSICUM") frustrated (from the latin "FRUSTRATUM") who wants (from the latin "VOLERE") to quarrel (from the latin "QUERI") hidden behind his pc.
Listen to me (from the latin "ME"), imbecile (from the latin "IMBECILLEM"),
Ath4ever is a friend of mine, we like to discuss together in a civil way, what you are inable to do. Don't dare to interfere with us, don't dare to use your revolting thoughts and words to judge her. You larva, you are too stupid and your mind is too limited to understand her and her attitude towards the others, you fucking impolite dickhead.
Maybe you think you are a genius: but we are all tired of you who play the one who is unappreciated without a reason. Have you the eyes to see how you are rude when you insult because you have not arguments anymore and how you are arrogant when you try to deny what is history and what is well know?!!
And just to go on. Well, regarding other words i've just used: to discuss (from the latin "DISCUTERE"), civil (from the latin "CIVILEM"), inable (from the latin "IN" + "HABILEM"), to interfere (from the latin "INTER" + "FERIRE"), to use (from the latin "USARE"), revolting (from the latin "REVOLUTANTEM"), to judge (from the latin "IUDICARE"), larva (from the latin "LARVAM"), stupid (from the latin "STUPIDUM"), limited (from the latin "LIMITATUM"),
attitude (from the latin "APTITUDINEM"), impolite (from the latin "IN" + "POLITUM"), unappreciated (from the latin "IN" + "APPRETIATUM"), reason (from the latin "RATIONEM"), rude (from the latin "RUDEM"), to insult (from the latin "INSULTARE"), argument (from the latin "ARGUMENTUM"), arrogant (from the latin "ARROGANTEM").
Don't worry, latin it's just the language of the ones who built Europe, the universal language of the western culture for a millenium and more, the language even the nobles byzantines preferred to the greek, the language that originated the italian, the french, the spanish, the portoguese, the rumenian ones and, as you see, is even very frequent in the germanic languages.
Oh yes, we are, aren't we Pandemonio81? Yes, we can talk so politely. In fact, you have always stood FOR and NOT AGAINST Greece attacking the Slavs that claim my Hellenic Macedonia. I know better your real beliefs this is why i can talk TO and WITH you!!!
the point is he has nothing important to say, he just wants to provoke the ones he envies. Now he even dares to teach you how you have to talk. Everyday a new one, what a loser! Tomorrow he will find an other bullshit to say: he's the new clown of youtube we have met. I'm so sad he's greek: what a disgrace for my beloved Hellas!
I know you love .... Hellas? you said, Hellas? Yes, The original name is Hellas. YOU know it. I am not surprised you do :-). I am so sad things turned this way but don't consider it. You (italians) and We (Greeks) have bonds nobody can break. I am proud for Hellas, you are proud for Italy. And this brings us closer, us, these 2 great civilization of the world.
you are a Psychopath! from the Greek word [PSYHOPATHES],and you are trying to be authentic!from the GREEK WORD [AYTHENTIKOS]you but you are not!you stole the greek architecture [architectonikh ]the greek mathematice[MATHEMATICA],You stole the greek politics from greek[POLITIKA],the greek philosophy [PHILOSOPHIA] AND MANY MORE!
you use the word history,[ISTORIA]to describe what happened to you country! you use greek word ROMH =STREANTH to name your country! you use the word music[MOUSIKH] AND ODH GREEK WORDS! TO EXPRESS YOUR SELF when you talk about music! you use the word anthropology[ANTHROPOLOGIA] when you want to talk about men!
You use the word EROS [ERWS] when you talk about love! you use the word stars [ASTHR] ,and planet[PLANITHS],AND ASTRONOMY [ASTRONOMIA]and [ASTROLOGIA],when you talk about the sky[OURANOS]...
...YOU USE THE WORDS bravo [BRAVION] when you want to congratulate somebody! you use the words bible[BIBLOS] AND GENESIS [GENESIS],AND CATHOLISME[KATHOLISMOS],AND ECCLESIASTIC[EKLHSIASMOS,to talk about your religion! now you should shut up! and do not be smart with me!
NOW Ath4ever!...if you think that answer like,,"but you can't neglect that Greece has a history...Pandemonio81!....we can't level like this such a nation!" is the answer you should give to this moron! i feel really sorry for you! GREECE IS THE HISTORY IT SELF! and you should pout shit in those filthy mouths!for daring saying all this for the cradle of civilization!
nixter888, YOU feel sorry for me? If someone REALLY insulted my beloved Greece, I would fight to the end. But they did not. Listen to me....CALM down first and don't be so offensive...even towards me
to all of you who try to underestimate greece,and the greek nation! nothing or nobody can ever surpass the contribution of greece to this earth! greece never copy anybody ever in history! your lies are based in jealousy ,and envy over the greek civilization!
to you italians! whatever you have today you own it to the greeks and only the greeks! MAGNA GRECIA WAS GREEK AND NOT ITALIAN,AS YOU LIKE TO POUT IT! the romans were not intelectuals,but they were just worriers !they gave nothing to the world! they took the greek civilization and they made it theirs!
do not be proud or something that is not yours! you need to have a lesson,and a greek arrogance ,in order to pout your tale in your behind and go to hell! greece can not be underestimated by you lowlife stupids! or anybody else!and you so-called Empire could never have survive ,with out the greek civilization!
nixter888, don't exaggerate. Why are you so offensive my co-patriot? I don't think our Italian friend underestimate our contribution to Humanity. I am sure they know.YES, We the Greeks are important BUT NOT ONLY US.....The Italians have a history as well. Don't try to humiliate them PLEASE...They are our only good neighbors..
athe4ever ,do not go along with this moron!you are the son of the GREAT GREEKS!do not let an italian arrogant ,,,for nothing! to underestimate you!this is what they thought all along!that were better than the GREEKS!OH HOW I FEEL SORRY for them!trying to underestimate the greatest civilization ever!
i do not care if you say whatever you say!mathematics are a greek matter! whatever the EGYPTIANS KNEW about mathematics was the work of HERMES TRISMEGISTOS! and AKTIS!and if the Egyptians were so advansed in mathematics,why were amazed by THALES OF MILITUS,when he measure the pyramids?
o.k then! do whatever you want! let them humiliate you! in staid! by giving you their attitudes ,and giving you your worth,little by little,drop by drop,in staid of giving you the entire container !
HE DOES NOT humiliate me! I love Greece as much as you do but i also admire the Italian culture. Never has an Italia humiliated me. They are proud of their history, that's all. Besides, another italian friend said a while ago, about the two greatest cultures in Europe. Us ad them. Why don't you see that?
the entire world runs with the greek achievements and concepts ,and nothing else! from the governments,to universities,to NASA,to to the sky and earth! now leave us alone! and let us be!
My main point is, that sadly the roman empire was the initiative for Europe to slaughter each other instead of getting united. The greeks new from the beginning that the only way was 'divided we stand' and not 'united'. Democracy...you know...
Noone is the enemy you pathetic little maggots. Education and culture are for everyone who is willing to learn and you are 2 fascist retards who eat from each others backs. Enjoy your 'intercourse'. Long live Metaxas and Mussolini! :P:P:P
history is simply a fucking tool. Nothing more nothing else. Not an object of gratification. But you and many others seem to repeat it here, in warzones, in forums...sadly...
Even before the "Lex Duodecim Tabularum" the Romans had the "Twelve shields" of king Numa Pompilius. Regarding the "Law of twelve tables" Livius says the Romans sent an embassy to Athens for studying the Solonian Constitution before they wrote them. The greek influence on them is unkown.
Today the scholars think what Livy said was just a legend and that travel to Athens never happened. Probably the greek influence on them was almost unimportant and that primordial legal text was a transcription of the old roman "mores" and formularies with a little greek influence from the southern italian cities of Magna Graecia.
Anyway Numa Pompilius himself probably never existed. The origins of the Roman Law is simply unkown. But the Romans created just legends about. What is important and certain is the major and main influence of the Roman Law on modern jurisprudence.
Yes? tell me all you know about the Roman Law, now. Because if you know the roman law as well as you know the latin language, we are ready to laugh again.
And stop to shout like a fairy, retard. Many scholars say the origins of the roman law are ETRUSCAN as all the scholars say the origins of the international law is ROMAN.
The Etruscans are the ancestors of the Romans, some scholars allege they even founded Rome, making Rome Etruscan.
Regardless, the origins of Roman law are entirely Roman, period. Not like the Greeks should say anything, the better part of their civilization was entirely Italian (Magna Graecia), and Greece proper was basically a photocopy of Mesopotamia and Egypt.
And as i've already said The Greeks stayed within the bounds of the ROMAN LAW circa 1500 years: first of all because the Greek territories were Roman provinces (Achaia, Macedonia, Asia), second because the Byzantine empire was the oriental continuation of the Roman empire.
But you can't neglect that Greece has a history, pandemonio81.. We can't level like this such a nation. I agree with you in most parts but the role of Greece in humanity can't be underestimated. Generally speaking, I don't say it to you...I just want to make clear my point
eight barbarians were crucified
mlattanzio2010 4 months ago
Really great vid ;) 5/5 Greetings !
KrzychuLDZ 1 year ago 3
"What wert thou Rome unbroken, when thy ruin is greater than the whole world else beside?" - lament of an 11th century monk.
horselips 1 year ago
great job man
saccarb 2 years ago
Can you imagine how much more of a great film Galdiator would have been if they would of used vangelis, EPIC, The score by zimmer was weak in spots, very! What a shame and a waist! He would hae been perfect check out 1492 awesome!
stone985 2 years ago
The Italians of 2000 years ago were far more impressive, memorable, important and successful than the italians of today. I wonder if students studying history in Greece, Italy and Egypt ever look at each other amd say, "Look at us today. Who fucked up?"
horselips 2 years ago 11
thats kind of a dig on Italians. Not fair. IF!!! you are reffering to the arts I WILL agree with you though.
saccarb 2 years ago
You don't know what you're talking about. The Italian Empire was rife with corruption, thrived on slavery and bloodshed and eventually drove itself into the ground. Just like modern American or European society it had its good points and its bad points.
0rangePete 1 year ago
@horselips
Yes,many greeks and Italians do that.
Amongst many other factors,like climate,that was much colder in ancient times(more prosperous lands) the main reason of their decay is christianity,both the greek orthodox church and the catholic church weakened and corrupted completely their civilizations.
Nations are like a human being (their composition) they change their nature over time,and both have their glorious moments and weak moments.
Its how things are,nothing lasts forever.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood Who ever you are, you don't even know what the hell your talking about!!! In the time of Julius Caesar, Rome was so corrupt it wasn't even funny... And that was in the BC time, before Christ! Christianity wasn't even a dream then!!! And the Romans were killing their own senitors, Roman culture was corrupt and very cruel. So you had better check your facts SHITHEAD!!
orionr31 1 year ago
@orionr31
I knew perfectly of what I was talking about,you don´t,you are a shitty troll.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood You don't know shit!!! There wasn't even any churches built in Rome unitl around 350 AD. And before that the Roman empire was divided into east and west... By the time of Constantine, the western empire had fallen to outside forces! Constantine only let christians floorish after the great christian slaughter of 303-305 AD.! He let it grow for a political move!! And the Roman empire was dying long before that from the inside, the senate!! Get your facts straight, dipshit!!
orionr31 1 year ago
@orionr31
Retarded piece of shit I know that, go to a fucking hospital.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@horselips This is what happend when you have a Liberal socialist Government running italy for decades. Hinders creativity. you can also say the Church has hindered italian society. the Pope orders Galileo imprisoned indefinitely under house arrest. If the church was around 2000 years ago in rome you would never have had rome as it was back then goood or bad
mrrice69 1 year ago
@horselips It aint about who fucked up ; I bet you feel tough talkin down to us now. Here's the truth ; We(Romans), Greeks and Egyptians had our time at the top. Now it's your turn and frankly, Id sooner say you're fucking up worse than we ever did. You have us, the Greeks and the Egyptians to use as a back drop and you still manage to make mistakes that reflect you haven't learned shit from us except how to walk around with a chip on your shoulder. Don't worry, we'll impress the world yet again
Praetorian107 3 months ago
@Praetorian107 :I wasn't talking down to you at all. Indeed, nothing lasts forever & the USA will also pass. And in the future, students studying our meteroric history will also ask who fucked up, & the answer will be "we bankrupted ourselves, morally and finacially, with liberalism." I hope you do impress the world again. First you need to knock up your women and recover your birthrate, then deport your Muslim invaders, then recover your faith and fill your churches. Good luck to all of us.
horselips 3 months ago
@horselips Egypt? Sadly the native population doesnt fell like a home...Thanks to muslim arabs who make 80 procent of Egypt population...
gzee9zpvvv 2 months ago
@horselips well. greece certainly fucked up... but Italy is still the 7th largest economy in the world.... while the country is not that big
MidasRK1 2 months ago
Avanti Italia, Avanti Roma. Glory to our brothers and sisters in Greece :)
Pele7945 2 years ago
no one told me they had this for a Boris Vallejo tribute. He is one of the greatest artists in the world when it comes to pencil pen and color, he has no equal.
workingstif1 2 years ago 3
nice!
0shizznes0 2 years ago
Awesome! Thank you Vangelis!
sljouzo12 2 years ago
You're is the best Vangelis "Titans" fan vid up. (The Boris Vallejo trubute was taken down)
dreyer3421 2 years ago 3
Agreed, the Boris Vallejo tribute to this scorwe was.....the best but....since it's gone this takes #1.
saccarb 2 years ago 3
Excellent ... Thanks
More... More!!!!
segestan 2 years ago
I'm trying to learn Latin right now
kenster112 2 years ago 3
very nice citizen
rolficus 2 years ago
Mare Nostrum!
SturmUndDrang13 3 years ago
Its Senatus Populusque Romanus and not Romae! "The senate and the people of Rome!"
conromanavolonta 3 years ago 3
@conromanavolonta : The translation of Senatus Populusque Romanus is "the Senate and tne Roman People" and not "the Senate and the people of Rome".
You know less latin than I do.
XISatu 1 year ago
Its exactly the same! Rome has been a republic and since in a republic the senate decides for the good of its citizens it speaks and acts for that purpose. 2nd: this has nothing to do with knowing latin.
conromanavolonta 1 year ago
Senatus Populus Que Romae !
ImperialGuard9001 3 years ago
After learning that the priests had made there decission, Remus stormed of the hilltop in a rage,grasping a large stone he charged at Romulus, the two brothers struggled, Romulus threw down his brother in a rage, taking the stone from Remus's hand and bludgening him to death. Another story is that while planning the sacred boundaries of the city,Remus was not taking this seriously enough, and Romulus killed him on the spot.
italobambino43 3 years ago
Some of this story is somewhat unclear, in the years leading up to his brother Romulus's death, the two brothers quarelled over who should rule, they approached the augeries, the Augeries were the first priests of Rome, the priests found it hard to decide on which brother would be suited for the job, so they instructed both men to take an opposite hilltop, which ever hilltop the greater number of birds gathered to would determine the gods decission. The birds flocked to Romulus's hilltop
italobambino43 3 years ago
Romulus and Remus according to legend,were cast out by there jealous uncle to die after birth,there uncle shamed that his sister a vestal vergin had broke her oath of cellibacy to the gods,they were from the latin city known as Albalonga,left to die they were found and suckled by a she wolf. eventually they were found by a kindly shepherds wife and raised to maturity, and then there destiny was made clear to them by her. They returned and userped there uncle who ruled in there name.
italobambino43 3 years ago
We can say that our nation was founded by intelligent men who wanted to break free of tyrany,while our founding fathers were designing our nation,they had Rome very much in thought,the saga of that ancient republic is truly one of the worlds greatest examples of success and failure! She grew from very humble beginnings,a small settlement of vagrants and drifters,a primative little town fortified with wooden walls and surrounded by land hungry yet formidable tribes not wanting to share land.
italobambino43 3 years ago
There survives a dispatch from the Prefect of the Praetorian Guard (at Spalato) to Emperor Diocletian that states: "My Lord Caesar, we have discovered that half the slaves in the Imperial Household are Christians, and so is your wife. What, Sire, are your orders?" Unfortunately, Diocletian's response is lost.
horselips 3 years ago
He better have slaughtered them all.
SolAurum 3 years ago
Senatus Populus Que Romae !
flokodeNeuve 3 years ago
awesome.
dreyer3421 3 years ago
Ave Caesar!
leseratte11 3 years ago
Being other Romance languages French, Spanish, Portuguese, Romanian...
DionysosEleutherios 3 years ago
Romans were related to Latin's,who as Vince said were a Italic people...unfortunatly,what Vince forgets is the Barbarian[Vestgoth] invasion of Roman territory..so,at best italians are a mix between Romans and Vestgoths
Dalbert342 3 years ago
@Dalbert342
visigoths invaded Italy in 410, but after they left.
Thereafter, ostrogoths and lombards invaded Italy but they were a small part of roman-italic people, 3% or 4% not more.
Lombards and ostrogoths were Germanic peoples, but Italians did not look like a German people!...
The large majority of Italians descended from ancient Romans of the imperial period.
diegriva 1 year ago
I agree, and stop whining about the Americans and stand with us against the one and only true modern enemy...Islamic fascism.
patio87 3 years ago
lol more like american fasism u boming bastards
vladan891 3 years ago
SPQR
horselips 3 years ago 2
Applaauuuuse !!! Rome = Greatness.
flokodeNeuve 3 years ago 3
I still don't think most people will ever appreciate the exten that the Roman Empire has shaped the modern world. Even with countries that weren't discovered in their time. If the Romans hadn't done what they'd done the world would be an entirely different place.
watto86 3 years ago 9
@watto86 A darker world indeed.
cwood4ever 9 months ago
Very good!! The images are brilliant, and Vangelis' song "Titans" is powerfull.
But the quality of the song is a bit poor...
yukieutsumi 3 years ago 2
Let their emerge a new Roman Empire. Let the strong and determined bring order to a world of disorder.
biagiotti2006 3 years ago
When you go and melodramatize the past,
know that the Roman Republic had a totally
different mentality then the Roman Empire.
And all true Ancient Romans saw the Roman Empire
as something vulgar and anti-republican. 4-show.
LeonidasIII300 3 years ago 3
"And all true Ancient Romans saw the Roman Empire
as something vulgar and anti-republican"
Wrong. Try not to use absolutes, you will fail at making your point very quickly.
patio87 3 years ago
its died mostly by civil war of the new religion christianity .
EricDutemple 4 years ago
fuck you,
greece rules
GreekHero16 4 years ago
Could you all just stop discussing such stupidities? The Romans borrowed from the Greeks, the Greeks borrowed from Eastern cultures and so on... So what? That happened thousands of years ago! We're all sharing a great legacy in Europe. Just STOP doing all this nationalistic irrational babble! It's fcking nonsense!
DionysosEleutherios 4 years ago 4
The Greeks too mostly from Nubian and Egyptian culture, but you're right that they took from Eastern cultures as well. And I agree about all this idiotic nationalistic psychobabble.
A86 3 years ago
greeks were mutch better than the romans.
The romans were copying the greeks, that is the truth, they stoled everything from the greeks, soldiers,gods, and the wisdom.
In rome, there were some greek streets
GreekHero16 4 years ago 2
You are too young, you didn't study enough yet for understanding how many things you and rest of the world took from the Romans.
In short, you are still ignorant.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
The European Union is the new Roman Empire
erikfofo 4 years ago
There never will be another Roman Empire.
wilkins6029 4 years ago
You know what...WE NEED ANOTHER ROMAN EMPIRE..Romans were awesome,unlike those who brought the Empire down
Dalbert342 4 years ago
Hey fuck you my ancestors helped bring down the empire! lol
watto86 4 years ago
no your ancestors did not bring down anything.
Kenshiroit 3 years ago
movie is good and don't shout!!!
patrolmostwanted 4 years ago
atomas: We dont know anything about anything.
JtZ375 4 years ago
we have all his works! stupid moron! if it was a myth stupid,their would be no evidence of anything!shut up now!
nixter888 4 years ago
...hmeterh pisunos kitharh,di'erwt'aloxoio hd'oson aiguptw ieron logon ekseloxeusa memphis es hgathehn pelasas polhas apidos....
i wenT to Egypte ,and i gave them knowledge, when i went to memphIs in the cities of Apidos 134=18-46..THE ORPHIC HYMNS
nixter888 4 years ago
fuck off orpheus was the son of APOLLO,AND KALLIOPH,idiot!a greek god! and he was married to euridiki! a greek god,who gave civilization to everybody!
nixter888 4 years ago
dude ...make another vid ....but put more emphasis on their fucking cool army :D
hekma 4 years ago
the orphics new the global shape of the sky as well the two first laws of the apparent motion of the calestial shere. they distinguished the stars into "PYROENTAS" THAT IS fiery AND INTO THE SEVEN PLANETS,WHICH THEY CALLED AFTER THEIR TODAYS NAMES WHICH CONSEQUENTLY are of O rphic origin!
nixter888 4 years ago
they determined the ecliptic,and the term"DROMOS" which Archimedes usesin "psamiths"4,5, for the ecliptic, they developed A strology, and ANGAEUS.."ARGONAUTIKA"210 WAS THE FIRST astrologer,-astronomer. and they did thousands more things!
nixter888 4 years ago
they introduced the ZODIAC AND THE NAMES OF THE CONSTELLATIONS.
nixter888 4 years ago
you can not take the truth! read carefully my comments!!!!so you thought orpheus was not greek?...big mistake!he wrote a great book!IN GREEK! I have it! IN GREEK!and he was a great greek, who travel all over the world giving civilization to every nation!
nixter888 4 years ago
The Phoenicians had not vowels ! if they did not have vowels ...how come THEN they used the letter A =ALPHA? IT'S A TERRIBLE LIE! they never use it! never! it's a lie! no written works of phoenicians was ever found with Greek letters that means they never wrote with those letters!!
nixter888 4 years ago
the orphic hymns give us information on the astronomical knowledge of the greeks the year 11,860 b.c,the greeks in the orphic times had conceived the heliocentric idea,who later continued by Pythagoras,and Aristarchus!
nixter888 4 years ago
THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY?
all this people they took the greek letters,and THEY modified them! that's why they have not actual meaning in their language! like the word Y-PSILON!...IT'S ROOT has an absolute meaning with the use of the the word! Y IS A CAVITY THAT CONTAINS SOMETHING liquid ,...Y-GRON=WET Y-dwr=water...K-Y-MA=TIDE...AND THIS LETTER COULD HAVE NEVER HAVE DERIVE from an other nations language!it was born along with the greek language!
nixter888 4 years ago
the word B-BOH=NOISE B-ORIAS=WIN B- RUSH=FAUCET B-0GAW=MOANING it has absolute connection with with it's letter!that means the letter and the language were made at the same time!
nixter888 4 years ago
READ TO LEARN!
nixter888 4 years ago
Any half-brained man knows that the Greek alphabet was a borrowing of the Phoenician. Don't even get started with that man. You're making yourself look even more foolish.
Reazzurro90 4 years ago
I didn't know that, nor am I half-brained. Choose your words better.
smith22686 4 years ago
you are the most uneducated moron! orpheus was GREEK! 100% MORON! HE GAVE THE CIVILIZATION to all these nations!stupid idiot! are you doing just because you want to say something,or you are a complete ignorant? the phoenicians stupid! took the alphabet from the ancient greeks! read what i am writing stupid!
nixter888 4 years ago
Do you want me to continue me! the boring psychopath ,...this is how you write the word! the Greek word that is!!!!...OR YOU WANT ME TO STOP HEAR,SMART ASS?....the letters ,the grammata of the greek language,are a greek matter,and not phoenician!
nixter888 4 years ago
" palamidis,and epixarmos,and simewnidhs, are the ones that gave the letters to the greeks, "
EYRIPIDHS APO.578 TWN PELASGWN PRWTWN XRHSAMENWN tois metatetheisi harakthprsi pelasgika,prosa goreuthhnai, toutois xrhsasthai pelasgikois grammasi ton ORPHEA!
nixter888 4 years ago
IT MEANS THAT THE PELASGIANS [THE OLDER GREEKS ]HAD FIRST THESE LETTERS,and orpheus gave them to them!and palamidis and the rest,gave them to the rest of the greeks!...DIODOROS SICYLUS HIST.BOOK 3-67,5-74!
nixter888 4 years ago
here!
nixter888 4 years ago
the first alphabet is the one that the greeks created !after the greatest civilization the greeks created,it would be IMPOSSIBLE that they took their grammata from an uncivilized nation like the phoenicians! no written evidence of any works of the phoenicians EVER FOUND! IGNACE J.GELD GLWSSOLOGIST
nixter888 4 years ago
THE GREEK ALPHABET,was much more ancient than any other!...it was a rational invention of the greek minds !,,,FERDINARDOS DE SOSIP!
nixter888 4 years ago
THERE IS THE INTERNAL AND unchanged book of the sky and the stars that their arrangement,their order configurates the GREEK LETTERS!
WHO IS THE ONE THAT LOOKED at the stars,and did not read a greek name! or a history of the past of the land of the gods ,and the gods them selves!
nixter888 4 years ago
A=ALPHA=fws hliou=light of the sun....al=alelios=hlios
B=BHTA=BHMA+TAFOS= ......BOWTHS,BASILIKOS,BWMOS,
G=GAMA =GAIA+MATER=ERTH+mother earth ...galaksias,gnnh
D=DELTA = dias+hlios=zeus+son..... dhmhtra,dioskouroi,didymoi,
nixter888 4 years ago
E=EPSILON=EI =Ellhnes=fwteinoi= greeks lighten
the letter epsilon,the b,person of the verb EIMI,EI=EISAI =YOU ARE
THE EMBLEM OF DELPHOI.....Ewsphoros,ermhs,erws,eurwph,ellhn
Z=ZHTA =ZHN+TAYS=ZEYS THE TRIAD=pathr+ yios agion pneuma=father sun and holy sprit....zeus apollon athena.
nixter888 4 years ago
H=HTA= HRA+TAYS=Hra megalh thea=hra the great goddess, H it represents THE MALE AND FEMALE connect in one .......hlios,hridanos,hfaistos,hraklhs.
TH=THETA=TH-H=TA= THEOS HLIOS MEGAS=HLIOS +THEON=THE SUN GOD,APOLLON,THE KEYS OF PYTHAGORAS.....THeos, theon,
nixter888 4 years ago
I=IWTA= IW+TA=MEGALH BOH=BIG NOISE THE EMBLEM ,OF OF GOD= IXTHEIS,IPPOLYTH,IKSIWN,IDAION,
K=KAPA =KA+PA=Kathodos patros =the coming of god...KRONOS,KENTAUROS,KYWN,KARKINOS,KYKNOS
L=LABDA= LA+B+DA=LA=LAS=LAAS=LAOS=PEOPLE....LA=DA doric ga gea =laos basileus ghs = lewn,logos,lura,lukos
nixter888 4 years ago
you are so ignorant! I DID NOT MADE UP ETYMOLOGIES ,i am writing the TRUTH! BRABO came out from the word brabeion! since the ancient times!...and i am not defeated, stupid!and i never admit that i was not sure! stupid idiot! i am sure 100% about what i am saying and do! stupid I SAID as i was writing moron!i forgat the E BRABION=BRABEION!
nixter888 4 years ago
IN GREEK IDIOT WE HAVE MANY ES......ei...oi...i....h.....u...ui....do ypou understand ignorant? and it's not me that underestimate "your civilization"..but him! read the comments carefully now!!!1
nixter888 4 years ago
nobody can underestimate the great civilization of the greeks! it's untouchable! the greeks greece,and greek civilization will disappear!when the world will disappear!
nixter888 4 years ago
NO you did not help the Greek in 1453!you left them in the hands of the barbarian Turks! you left them to die! and they all most did!for 400 years we had the most unworthy ,uneducated , beings on our shoulders!you let the most rational people ,to be destroyed by the most ugly race on earth
nixter888 4 years ago
..thanks to the HEROES of 1821, we are still here! and better than ever! finding our selves again! NO thanks to you! the so-call brothers!
nixter888 4 years ago
Speaking of foreign influence...the modern Greek language has many Italian borrowings...for example, the Italian word "porta" is used instead of the Greek word "thyra."
Reazzurro90 4 years ago
Reazzurro90,
In fact he has invented that our word "bravo" derives from the ancient greek "brabion". Well, you have to know "brabion" doesn't exist in ancient greek, but only in modern greek, and it derives exactly from our italian "bravo"!!! LOL !
Can you imagine the level of that person?
pandemonio81 4 years ago
Without a doubt you've outclassed him. It's a bit sad that he has to resort to making up etymologies. A bit disappointing. Had he simply bowed out by even admitting that he wasn't sure, he could have preserved dignity without "accepting defeat."
Regardless, I don't understand why he started attacking Roman civilization and Italy in general. Italy and Greece are allies, after all... Has he not heard of the expression "Una faccia, una razza"? Most Greeks have...
Reazzurro90 4 years ago
i agree with you. Una faccia, una razza....we say that too for you and of course we are allies with you!!!
ath4ever 4 years ago
Greeks and Italians have been fighting on the same side for thousands of years, my friend...
It is of no surprise that Italians, for instance, formed one of the major parties helping to defend Constantinople in 1453 from the Ottoman Turks. We were meant to be together.
Reazzurro90 4 years ago
Reazzuro90, of course. We Greeks are fond of you. You are our best neighbors. There is a bond between us and it will never break. Italy is nice, Italian people are almost like us. "We are meant to be together"....such a nice comment!!!
ath4ever 4 years ago
[ekson hmin kai ta twn allwn dikaia brabeuein]it's ancient greek! and not modern greek! but you have no idea what you are saying!
nixter888 4 years ago
brabeion= athlon en tois agwsi... if you can not read ANCIENT GREEK it's not my problem!
the GREEK civilization does not own anything to anybody! everybody did take from it,and many fought against it! but never were able to reach as hight!
nixter888 4 years ago
God born,God made ,sacred,and Godlike, unchanged
from the the long time of it's existence. God waked and lighten, from the sacred light ,mother of the first human,and the Greek internal spirit! present of the gods!HELLAS! WE ARE ALL WAYS going to PROTECT YOU!from the distorters of your legacy !!!!
nixter888 4 years ago
im sure greece thanks you for your effort...but in all fairness, the crusaders ultimately paved the way for 500 dark years of brutal occupation and genocide by sacking constantinople
Clairemont619 4 years ago
stop arguing..everythong os borrowed from somewhere..if nobody borrowed anything then we would be reinventing the wheel over and over again. greece influenced italy, and italy influenced greece..no surprise really.
Clairemont619 4 years ago
Who is the one who plays the smart here?
You are just able to invent INEXISTENT etimologies...
pandemonio81 4 years ago
fuck off stupid! i forgot the e,you stupid idiot! you find a little think stupid individual to get to me!!![EKSON HMIN KAI TA TWN ALLWN DIKAIA BRABEUEIN] you are in despair! you don't know how to "fight" with me anymore! there in nothing you can do! got you!...tomorrow i will get back to you! kalhnyxta!
nixter888 4 years ago
brabeion!
nixter888 4 years ago
YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD, YOU SAID "BRABION" AND NOT "BRABEION". This is the etymology you have invented, dickhead:
nixter888 (31 minutes ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply) (Spam)
brabion=...greek...=.prabhu..sanscrit,=pravum,latin
LOL
pandemonio81 4 years ago
Or also:
nixter888 (58 minutes ago) Show Hide Marked as spam 0 (Reply) (Spam)
pravum= brabion!
pandemonio81 4 years ago
..and if you are a Greek living in Italy,and you speak Greek! then i do not have to tell you anything else!..i am sure you understand EVERYTHING!
nixter888 4 years ago
YOU ARE A DISGRACE to Greece! BRAVO IS FROM LATIN "PRAVUM" AND YOUR MODERN
"BRABION" DOESN'T EXIST IN ANCIENT GREEK!!!
Linguistic is a science, you can't to invent etymologies.
Have you forgotten your pills? You need a psychiatric help, believe in me.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
YOU ARE A DISGRACE MORON!
BRABEIN,BRABEUW,BRABEUOMAI,EPIBRAUEBEUSIS,BRABEUTHS!.stupid i told you not to be smart with me! ugly person!
nixter888 4 years ago
the words archaic,lexicon,glossary ,thesaurus ,grammar,orthograph,and thousands more!very basic meanings ,and not just words! as you are writing all along!
nixter888 4 years ago
anyway nixter888,
H κοπέλα (ath4ever) ξέρει καλά πώς σκέφτομαι και είναι με το μέρος μου
pandemonio81 4 years ago
brabion=...greek...=.prabhu..sanscrit,=pravum,latin
nixter888 4 years ago
anti =a greek prothesis!
nixter888 4 years ago
is also latin, and of course it arrived in english through the latin. "ANCIENT" is based on the latin "ANTIQUUM".
pandemonio81 4 years ago
nixter888,
I know the great contribution (from the latin CONTRIBUTUM) of ancient greek to the specialistic (from the latin "SPECIALEM") languages (from the latin "LINGUA") and more. But I didn't understimate what the ancient (with the latin root "ANTE") greeks did. You are the one who has understimated ("under" + the latin "AESTIMARE") the Romans.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
[brà-vo]
da pra¯vu(m) 'pravo, malvagio', usato talora anche con sign. positivo
SOURCE: GARZANTI LINGUISTICA.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
As you see, the ITALIAN vocabulary (from the latin "VOCABULARIUM") says "bravo" is from "PRAVUM", latin.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
pravum= brabion!
nixter888 4 years ago
ATH4EVER!..To filas akoma ton kolo?
nixter888 4 years ago
SO! I HAVE NOTHING IMPORTANT TO SAY!arrogant italian for nothing?,,,I HAVE A LOT TO SAY! I DID NOT EVEN STARTED YET!you thought you had to do with somebody who had no clue! eeeee? i am a historian! and a rechercher ,and most importantly ,a greek! who happened to have the most perfect language on earth! to give me information about everything!
nixter888 4 years ago
.. If the GODS,were talking with each other,then they used the GREEK LANGUAGE!....."KIKERON"
nixter888 4 years ago
Ancient times, late republican ages of Cicero (not kikeron), when greek was of course much more refined than latin. But it's exactly since Cicero and then, under Augustus, with Vergil, Horatius, ecc, that latin becomes the one we study today. Who has true culture doesn't write quotes without knowing the context of them.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
and the italian word bravo is from latin PRAVUM. Learn, then write.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
bravo it comes from the greek word BRABION!...WHEN IN ANCIENT times were playing theater! the audiences use to shout ..brabion,brabion= award,award! and the ITALIANS THEY TOOK THE WORD AND THEY ADAPTED IT!... so you found a little "italian" word that thought was italian!...and you started saying nonsense again?
nixter888 4 years ago
Take an italian vocabulary, and you will see that it derive from PRAVUM
BRAVO < LATIN, PRAVUM.
You have just invented the last bullshit.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
you use the words pain[PONOS],ALLERGIC,[ALERGIKOS],OEDEMA,HEMOGLOBIN,THERMOMETER, WHEN YOU GO SEE YOUR DOCTOR! YOU USE THE WORDS THEATER,CINEMA,CINEMATOGRAPHY,when you go to see a movie! you have to close your math now! i could go on and on for ever!
nixter888 4 years ago
1)
I've already explained the origins (from the latin "ORIGINEM") of the word Rome (from the name of an Etruscan family ), retard (from the latin "RETARDATUM"). But you are so uneducated (from the latin "IN" + "EDUCTUM")! Now you are really (from the latin "REALIS") breaking my balls: you are the classical (from the latin "CLASSICUM") frustrated (from the latin "FRUSTRATUM") who wants (from the latin "VOLERE") to quarrel (from the latin "QUERI") hidden behind his pc.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
2)
Listen to me (from the latin "ME"), imbecile (from the latin "IMBECILLEM"),
Ath4ever is a friend of mine, we like to discuss together in a civil way, what you are inable to do. Don't dare to interfere with us, don't dare to use your revolting thoughts and words to judge her. You larva, you are too stupid and your mind is too limited to understand her and her attitude towards the others, you fucking impolite dickhead.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
3)
Maybe you think you are a genius: but we are all tired of you who play the one who is unappreciated without a reason. Have you the eyes to see how you are rude when you insult because you have not arguments anymore and how you are arrogant when you try to deny what is history and what is well know?!!
pandemonio81 4 years ago
4)
And just to go on. Well, regarding other words i've just used: to discuss (from the latin "DISCUTERE"), civil (from the latin "CIVILEM"), inable (from the latin "IN" + "HABILEM"), to interfere (from the latin "INTER" + "FERIRE"), to use (from the latin "USARE"), revolting (from the latin "REVOLUTANTEM"), to judge (from the latin "IUDICARE"), larva (from the latin "LARVAM"), stupid (from the latin "STUPIDUM"), limited (from the latin "LIMITATUM"),
pandemonio81 4 years ago
5)
attitude (from the latin "APTITUDINEM"), impolite (from the latin "IN" + "POLITUM"), unappreciated (from the latin "IN" + "APPRETIATUM"), reason (from the latin "RATIONEM"), rude (from the latin "RUDEM"), to insult (from the latin "INSULTARE"), argument (from the latin "ARGUMENTUM"), arrogant (from the latin "ARROGANTEM").
pandemonio81 4 years ago
6)
Don't worry, latin it's just the language of the ones who built Europe, the universal language of the western culture for a millenium and more, the language even the nobles byzantines preferred to the greek, the language that originated the italian, the french, the spanish, the portoguese, the rumenian ones and, as you see, is even very frequent in the germanic languages.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
Oh yes, we are, aren't we Pandemonio81? Yes, we can talk so politely. In fact, you have always stood FOR and NOT AGAINST Greece attacking the Slavs that claim my Hellenic Macedonia. I know better your real beliefs this is why i can talk TO and WITH you!!!
ath4ever 4 years ago
Ath4ever,
the point is he has nothing important to say, he just wants to provoke the ones he envies. Now he even dares to teach you how you have to talk. Everyday a new one, what a loser! Tomorrow he will find an other bullshit to say: he's the new clown of youtube we have met. I'm so sad he's greek: what a disgrace for my beloved Hellas!
pandemonio81 4 years ago
Pandemonio81, my friend,
I know you love .... Hellas? you said, Hellas? Yes, The original name is Hellas. YOU know it. I am not surprised you do :-). I am so sad things turned this way but don't consider it. You (italians) and We (Greeks) have bonds nobody can break. I am proud for Hellas, you are proud for Italy. And this brings us closer, us, these 2 great civilization of the world.
ath4ever 4 years ago
you are a Psychopath! from the Greek word [PSYHOPATHES],and you are trying to be authentic!from the GREEK WORD [AYTHENTIKOS]you but you are not!you stole the greek architecture [architectonikh ]the greek mathematice[MATHEMATICA],You stole the greek politics from greek[POLITIKA],the greek philosophy [PHILOSOPHIA] AND MANY MORE!
nixter888 4 years ago
you use the word history,[ISTORIA]to describe what happened to you country! you use greek word ROMH =STREANTH to name your country! you use the word music[MOUSIKH] AND ODH GREEK WORDS! TO EXPRESS YOUR SELF when you talk about music! you use the word anthropology[ANTHROPOLOGIA] when you want to talk about men!
nixter888 4 years ago
You use the word EROS [ERWS] when you talk about love! you use the word stars [ASTHR] ,and planet[PLANITHS],AND ASTRONOMY [ASTRONOMIA]and [ASTROLOGIA],when you talk about the sky[OURANOS]...
nixter888 4 years ago
...YOU USE THE WORDS bravo [BRAVION] when you want to congratulate somebody! you use the words bible[BIBLOS] AND GENESIS [GENESIS],AND CATHOLISME[KATHOLISMOS],AND ECCLESIASTIC[EKLHSIASMOS,to talk about your religion! now you should shut up! and do not be smart with me!
nixter888 4 years ago
I really can't to believe in what I see! where did you learn Italian?!
"BRAVO" is FROM LATIN "PRAVUM"
try again, moron!
LOL!
pandemonio81 4 years ago
Ask him please to see your account and what is written about the two cradles of civilization, about the greatest cultures of History
ath4ever 4 years ago
even the title of this video is GREEK
ODH STH RWMH !
nixter888 4 years ago
NOW Ath4ever!...if you think that answer like,,"but you can't neglect that Greece has a history...Pandemonio81!....we can't level like this such a nation!" is the answer you should give to this moron! i feel really sorry for you! GREECE IS THE HISTORY IT SELF! and you should pout shit in those filthy mouths!for daring saying all this for the cradle of civilization!
nixter888 4 years ago
nixter888, YOU feel sorry for me? If someone REALLY insulted my beloved Greece, I would fight to the end. But they did not. Listen to me....CALM down first and don't be so offensive...even towards me
ath4ever 4 years ago
to all of you who try to underestimate greece,and the greek nation! nothing or nobody can ever surpass the contribution of greece to this earth! greece never copy anybody ever in history! your lies are based in jealousy ,and envy over the greek civilization!
nixter888 4 years ago
to you italians! whatever you have today you own it to the greeks and only the greeks! MAGNA GRECIA WAS GREEK AND NOT ITALIAN,AS YOU LIKE TO POUT IT! the romans were not intelectuals,but they were just worriers !they gave nothing to the world! they took the greek civilization and they made it theirs!
nixter888 4 years ago
do not be proud or something that is not yours! you need to have a lesson,and a greek arrogance ,in order to pout your tale in your behind and go to hell! greece can not be underestimated by you lowlife stupids! or anybody else!and you so-called Empire could never have survive ,with out the greek civilization!
nixter888 4 years ago
nixter888, don't exaggerate. Why are you so offensive my co-patriot? I don't think our Italian friend underestimate our contribution to Humanity. I am sure they know.YES, We the Greeks are important BUT NOT ONLY US.....The Italians have a history as well. Don't try to humiliate them PLEASE...They are our only good neighbors..
ath4ever 4 years ago
athe4ever ,do not go along with this moron!you are the son of the GREAT GREEKS!do not let an italian arrogant ,,,for nothing! to underestimate you!this is what they thought all along!that were better than the GREEKS!OH HOW I FEEL SORRY for them!trying to underestimate the greatest civilization ever!
nixter888 4 years ago
Actually, nixter888 i am the DAUGHTER of Greeks :-))
Anyway, never has an Italian underestimated me. On the contrary, they respect our civilization.
Maybe if you tried to be more calm and start to talk on another basis...
ath4ever 4 years ago
i do not care if you say whatever you say!mathematics are a greek matter! whatever the EGYPTIANS KNEW about mathematics was the work of HERMES TRISMEGISTOS! and AKTIS!and if the Egyptians were so advansed in mathematics,why were amazed by THALES OF MILITUS,when he measure the pyramids?
nixter888 4 years ago
o.k then! do whatever you want! let them humiliate you! in staid! by giving you their attitudes ,and giving you your worth,little by little,drop by drop,in staid of giving you the entire container !
nixter888 4 years ago
HE DOES NOT humiliate me! I love Greece as much as you do but i also admire the Italian culture. Never has an Italia humiliated me. They are proud of their history, that's all. Besides, another italian friend said a while ago, about the two greatest cultures in Europe. Us ad them. Why don't you see that?
ath4ever 4 years ago
the entire world runs with the greek achievements and concepts ,and nothing else! from the governments,to universities,to NASA,to to the sky and earth! now leave us alone! and let us be!
nixter888 4 years ago
The roman laws have their base in "Arios Pagos",Athens Greece!and in the laws of Lycurgos of Sparta! and that's a fact!
nixter888 4 years ago
My main point is, that sadly the roman empire was the initiative for Europe to slaughter each other instead of getting united. The greeks new from the beginning that the only way was 'divided we stand' and not 'united'. Democracy...you know...
DeGkremistas 4 years ago
Noone is the enemy you pathetic little maggots. Education and culture are for everyone who is willing to learn and you are 2 fascist retards who eat from each others backs. Enjoy your 'intercourse'. Long live Metaxas and Mussolini! :P:P:P
DeGkremistas 4 years ago
history is simply a fucking tool. Nothing more nothing else. Not an object of gratification. But you and many others seem to repeat it here, in warzones, in forums...sadly...
DeGkremistas 4 years ago
1)
Even before the "Lex Duodecim Tabularum" the Romans had the "Twelve shields" of king Numa Pompilius. Regarding the "Law of twelve tables" Livius says the Romans sent an embassy to Athens for studying the Solonian Constitution before they wrote them. The greek influence on them is unkown.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
2)
Today the scholars think what Livy said was just a legend and that travel to Athens never happened. Probably the greek influence on them was almost unimportant and that primordial legal text was a transcription of the old roman "mores" and formularies with a little greek influence from the southern italian cities of Magna Graecia.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
3)
Anyway Numa Pompilius himself probably never existed. The origins of the Roman Law is simply unkown. But the Romans created just legends about. What is important and certain is the major and main influence of the Roman Law on modern jurisprudence.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
are you afraid to say,..yes the "Roman dikaion"was based in "Athenian dikaion"AND WE MADE IT EVEN BETTER!AND GREATER!
nixter888 4 years ago
Yes? tell me all you know about the Roman Law, now. Because if you know the roman law as well as you know the latin language, we are ready to laugh again.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
And stop to shout like a fairy, retard. Many scholars say the origins of the roman law are ETRUSCAN as all the scholars say the origins of the international law is ROMAN.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
The Etruscans are the ancestors of the Romans, some scholars allege they even founded Rome, making Rome Etruscan.
Regardless, the origins of Roman law are entirely Roman, period. Not like the Greeks should say anything, the better part of their civilization was entirely Italian (Magna Graecia), and Greece proper was basically a photocopy of Mesopotamia and Egypt.
Reazzurro90 4 years ago
And as i've already said The Greeks stayed within the bounds of the ROMAN LAW circa 1500 years: first of all because the Greek territories were Roman provinces (Achaia, Macedonia, Asia), second because the Byzantine empire was the oriental continuation of the Roman empire.
pandemonio81 4 years ago
But you can't neglect that Greece has a history, pandemonio81.. We can't level like this such a nation. I agree with you in most parts but the role of Greece in humanity can't be underestimated. Generally speaking, I don't say it to you...I just want to make clear my point
ath4ever 4 years ago