Once you hit that depth and feel punch drunk, it's all over unless you snapp out of it. More than likely, you won't. You think it can't happen to you. Just dive with a big ego and throw caution to the wind and see how long you last (to the ones laughing it up).
@flarez He actually has balls for doing that dive. I think he broke down a bit at the end there because he suddenly realized how close to death he really was.
deep air is simply crazy, like to travel at top speed with a small car. u can do it, but is 100 times more risky to run at the same speed with a ferrari(trimix). and there is still people who see a shark in yuri video -.-
yes mydivergirl2450 thats true, but you can get good dive stories and videos on the web too.. try the myscubastory site. type myscubastory into google and its the first one!
You thinking of diving 55/60m on Nitrox??? You would deal with oxygen toxicity and not N2 narcosis. Diving on Air, sure no problem, but I think it's mainly depend on the person and his/her fitness and mental ability to deal with it. The student dude in the movie looks like he should not do that kind of dive (maybe he should ask better questions)...little bit scary
Well said by this diver. He seems impressed by his experience. Anyone can suffer under nitrogen narcosis, even scuba instructors. In addition, when you are drunk at home, you are still in the safety of your own house, you can breathe well, your air supply is not limited and you are in the environment you are used to. It the deep you have limited air-supply, you are in 'unnatural' surroundings for a human (water) and breathing is much more difficult, plus other factors. To be taken serious.
I think that I could dive alone, it's the buddy sytem that got me kicked out of an introductory course. I told the instructor that if my buddy was in trouble then it was safe to bet that I would be in trouble, too, because I just couldn't knowingly leave someone in the water.
Watch Elena's other video about a fellow that died in Dahab's Blue Hole, likely from running out of air trying to correct his buddies problem. That would be me, no sense to save myself by acknowledging that my buddy is beyond help. I couldn't step over someone who has fallen down in a "dead zone" on a mountain, either.
I don't WANT to step in front of a car to throw a kid out of it's path but I would. Selfless acts get as many people killed as stupid acts :)
@thegirl44 Well you get your buddy to the surface. If one or you are running out of air. Mountains and water are different things. Yes thats why you minimize the risks.
Of course you do things to minimize the risks. Plan the dive and dive the plan and all of that.
I just know my nature and what my reactions would be well enough to make the decision that I'm better off skimming over the waves while you brave cats and kittens are under them :).
Been there, done that(max. 50m. on air), no more! Deep air is silly, but many of us did this mistake (including yours truly!) I even bought my own transport trimix tank- there is no TMX in the Mediterrenian! I much prefer GUE-type approach- makes me feel much more confident and relaxed!
anyone can get narc'ed dosnt mater if you have had 1000 dives or used drugs your whole life.
There have been times where I have been sooo happy and times where I can hear my heart pound in my ears and my vision start to tunnel. Those are when you have to keep it together, and there are times when at 150ft I have had nothing at all. It varies. The man in th video says it best, keep your wits about you focus and recognize whats happening then put all your focus into your dive an stay safe
Probably one of the reasons, why I don't wish to do tech diving.... However, If I were divorced, broken and feel bitter in my life, because at that point, I don't give a damn about my life anymore....
@overseasmedia Oh, cool.. So what is the depth that you could operate at? when you are doing the intro? Can you get gear rental for TMX... Somehow in my gut feeling... I don't think that is possible...
In the Keys I dived to 150ft and never felt narc'd. I stayed for about a minute and went back to about 100ft for the rest of the dive. I do have a very high tolerance to drugs -- even at the dentist, I need 3x as many shots as anyone else. This might be the reason.
What some people don't understand is that when some divers get Narc'd, it's more like a bad mushroom trip rather than alcohol intoxication and experience terror and hallucinations instead of the euphoria a lot of people think everyone gets while diving "Air"
I think I cope with narcosis well cos I,m a calmed person even drunk and I so that gives me advantage... people trying to experience depth should ask themselves a question..do I lose control when i'm drunk? do I do stupid things? have I ever been drunk at all... I remmember a student back when i was instructor who got scared when going down to 30m for her deep dive, once on the boat she explained to me that not knowing what was going on on her mind freaked her out because never tried alcohol..
I've only gone through PADI and GUE, so it blows me away reading that that's their practice. No wonder some GUE guys are hardcore about "strokes".
Curious now if this docu addresses what I just noticed on this video. Does it compare GUE with TDI and other certification agencies? I mean as an audient, when I first heard it the info just whisked by, but now that we are chatting, it It certainly raises the question for me. Of course between you and me the docu answers the question very subtly :)
noantsproductions: #1 I think: "a stroke" is a state of consciousness.People who are open to learn something new, even if they are diving deep air are not strokes.A stroke is one with the closed mind, who think they know everything and have nothing to learn, they are stubborn and agressively stupid.
noantsproductions #2 Unfortunately this doc. doesn't compare TDI, SDI, and other training agencies with DIR-GUE, since in that case I would never be able to broadcast the film, it would be perceived as an agressive "marketing for GUE", and that's not what I meant to achieve. My purpose was to make people (divers) aware of the fact there is an alternative way of training that's much better than what they used to.
What was the profile of their dive, I mean one guy has to go down on air to get narked and experience it while the other is on a better gas? Is this the TDI curriculum for his class?
noantsproductions: The profile was 60 m for 20 min (mod 65m) as far as I remember. The ohter diver is Ben Reymenants (TDI Instructor) and he also had air as his bottom gas. That was an Extended Range dive.
noantsproductions: Sorry, I was supposed to comment it: ER (extended range class) is a part of TDI tech dive training, all tech classes in TDI preceeding Advanced TMX including "advanced nitrox","deco procedures" and "ER" are DEEP AIR DIVES. Extended range is the course which teaches you to dive DEEP AIR, so there is no way they could "dive a better gas", they dive "better bottom mix" when they dive down to 100m.
sorry if I'm lagging behind here... and again no pun intended, I just don't know anything about TDI; just really asking -- they teach you to dive DEEP on AIR? ...what then is their "better(?)" bottom mix on this dive? how about at 100m?
ANd there seems to be a lot of TDI tech classes. There was a part in the video not sure if it was this one), the student asked what instructor recommends the instructor had to pause to think which ONE! (this time pun intended)
noantsproductions: No problems, I am very happy to give you all the naswers you're seeking. Indeed TDI does teach to dive deep air down to 60 m. They teach Adv. TMX after you have accomplished ER course (you can see that on the video) so of course they teach to dive TMX below 60m in theory...
noantsproductions: Unlikely GUE, TDI don't have standard gases. So when you're calculating trimix for a deep dive, - it's up to you to choose your END that you're you're "comfortable with". You choose you deco gases individually too.
noantsproductions: I understand you very well.. the way it feels is awful, and as a TDI diver who did lots of my deep dives on air, I am saying "that's not the best way to dive".
greenteabag7: Yes, exactly, that was James Smith, you can see him in the 'Sacred Truth' documentary, his photo I mean. Hewas blonde, straight hair, PADI instructor, he took part in recovering Yuri Lipski's body and yes, he was British
GOneScUBA: No, no, he didn't do anything wrong in Yuri's case. He recovered the body with the team of his divers (from his dive shop) there were a few complaints about him being involved into other rescue parties organized, that was a long time ago, I'll tell you aout it later, OK?
GOneScUBA: Hey, Mitch! Your dead right about Tarek Omar, he is shrouded in "mystery". That's true. Did you get the documentary? Tarek is talking about Yuri Lispki there...
This is the No1 problem with us white motherfuckers......we love to fuck around with our own lifes just to prove how great we are.
menzerna1234 2 weeks ago
i dont know why but i just want to punch that guy in the face
cubano0306 2 weeks ago
Once you hit that depth and feel punch drunk, it's all over unless you snapp out of it. More than likely, you won't. You think it can't happen to you. Just dive with a big ego and throw caution to the wind and see how long you last (to the ones laughing it up).
tonypiecuzpan 1 month ago
boy.. this andrew guy is such a twat
flarez 2 months ago
@flarez He actually has balls for doing that dive. I think he broke down a bit at the end there because he suddenly realized how close to death he really was.
jebby16 2 weeks ago
wait so he went to a shop for trimix and took the course..then dove without it? was that an oxy or tmx dive?
BannHammer 5 months ago
That guy is crying bitch, he needs more expierence. Drama queen.
ericvid 6 months ago
deep air is simply crazy, like to travel at top speed with a small car. u can do it, but is 100 times more risky to run at the same speed with a ferrari(trimix). and there is still people who see a shark in yuri video -.-
jenacbxx 6 months ago
if i was that guy who died in there , i would have acted rapidly by taking my scuba dive gears off and leave my camera..
XxPinoyBroxX 7 months ago
He is preparing his deepest dive of his life, but that question about narcosis and trimix was a joke I hope.
somethingirreversib 7 months ago
yes mydivergirl2450 thats true, but you can get good dive stories and videos on the web too.. try the myscubastory site. type myscubastory into google and its the first one!
seasnake321 10 months ago
Nitrogen narcosis is easily overcome, just dive with the proper gases like Nitrox and trimix and you'll be fine!
leelabooo 11 months ago
yea scuba2shark, you can also get more stories on the web, try the myscubastory site. Type myscubastory into google and its the first one, good luck!
marinefish321 11 months ago
the surface is fine enough for me
isfunnycuzistrue 1 year ago
I've dived there and went down the massive crack it was awesome!
atalayapark 1 year ago
You thinking of diving 55/60m on Nitrox??? You would deal with oxygen toxicity and not N2 narcosis. Diving on Air, sure no problem, but I think it's mainly depend on the person and his/her fitness and mental ability to deal with it. The student dude in the movie looks like he should not do that kind of dive (maybe he should ask better questions)...little bit scary
skriptkidjc 1 year ago
60 meters is four bottles of vodka lol
yezidi11 1 year ago
I worked NS 79-82 KEEP TO 30 METERS when sports diving and you will live longer.
michaelwright999 1 year ago
0:40 What a jaw :-O
SLagerZahne 1 year ago
Well said by this diver. He seems impressed by his experience. Anyone can suffer under nitrogen narcosis, even scuba instructors. In addition, when you are drunk at home, you are still in the safety of your own house, you can breathe well, your air supply is not limited and you are in the environment you are used to. It the deep you have limited air-supply, you are in 'unnatural' surroundings for a human (water) and breathing is much more difficult, plus other factors. To be taken serious.
ObserverInWorld11 1 year ago
@ObserverInWorld11
I think that I could dive alone, it's the buddy sytem that got me kicked out of an introductory course. I told the instructor that if my buddy was in trouble then it was safe to bet that I would be in trouble, too, because I just couldn't knowingly leave someone in the water.
The instructor told me to go back to surfing.
I did.
thegirl44 7 months ago
@thegirl44 yeah go back to surfing No thats where you wrong you have to see okay whats the problem and then correct the problem
Hallamfoebell 4 months ago
@Hallamfoebell
Watch Elena's other video about a fellow that died in Dahab's Blue Hole, likely from running out of air trying to correct his buddies problem. That would be me, no sense to save myself by acknowledging that my buddy is beyond help. I couldn't step over someone who has fallen down in a "dead zone" on a mountain, either.
I don't WANT to step in front of a car to throw a kid out of it's path but I would. Selfless acts get as many people killed as stupid acts :)
thegirl44 1 month ago
@thegirl44 Well you get your buddy to the surface. If one or you are running out of air. Mountains and water are different things. Yes thats why you minimize the risks.
jamiebellwolf 1 month ago
@jamiebellwolf
Of course you do things to minimize the risks. Plan the dive and dive the plan and all of that.
I just know my nature and what my reactions would be well enough to make the decision that I'm better off skimming over the waves while you brave cats and kittens are under them :).
thegirl44 1 month ago
@thegirl44 its not so much bravery or of what you do so everybody comes back alive
jamiebellwolf 1 month ago
Start to feel it syptoms at only 40m, only 40m like it's not deep!!
unclepeter99 1 year ago
See, deep air can make you cry.
cphinney 1 year ago
HAHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA.... He had a little sad moment :) Props to Ben, he was in good hands!
amidyville 1 year ago
Been there, done that(max. 50m. on air), no more! Deep air is silly, but many of us did this mistake (including yours truly!) I even bought my own transport trimix tank- there is no TMX in the Mediterrenian! I much prefer GUE-type approach- makes me feel much more confident and relaxed!
GregoryPribush 1 year ago
anyone can get narc'ed dosnt mater if you have had 1000 dives or used drugs your whole life.
There have been times where I have been sooo happy and times where I can hear my heart pound in my ears and my vision start to tunnel. Those are when you have to keep it together, and there are times when at 150ft I have had nothing at all. It varies. The man in th video says it best, keep your wits about you focus and recognize whats happening then put all your focus into your dive an stay safe
thewills12 1 year ago 2
@thewills12 There is a very good "medicine" to overcome this problem. Dive recreational triox or technical trimix!
overseasmedia 1 year ago 5
@thewills12 I thought you could only go down 130ft in rectiational diving?
openarms332 2 months ago
@thewills12 whats sad is i got narc'd at 25m hate to think about what would happen if i did this 100m dive. shit id be fucked
kwfsuperstar 1 month ago
Probably one of the reasons, why I don't wish to do tech diving.... However, If I were divorced, broken and feel bitter in my life, because at that point, I don't give a damn about my life anymore....
tanidn 1 year ago
@tanidn Now you can do a TMX intro without any "deep air dives" involved.
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@overseasmedia Oh, cool.. So what is the depth that you could operate at? when you are doing the intro? Can you get gear rental for TMX... Somehow in my gut feeling... I don't think that is possible...
tanidn 1 year ago
@tanidn On air?
overseasmedia 1 year ago
@overseasmedia No.. Just doing the TMX introductory dive. What is the depth that introductory TMX would be performed at?
tanidn 1 year ago
i can breathe underwater and damn you if you think i cant you bastards.
RAVINRETARD 2 years ago
RAVINRETARD, good for you....
scubazmei 2 years ago
Oh man, that's Monica Farrell, she used to teach me at the American University in Cairo, makes sense she's doing this she sucked as a teacher.
baldrick78 2 years ago
ok so how do u go deeper without air
skittlepower95 2 years ago
In the Keys I dived to 150ft and never felt narc'd. I stayed for about a minute and went back to about 100ft for the rest of the dive. I do have a very high tolerance to drugs -- even at the dentist, I need 3x as many shots as anyone else. This might be the reason.
CarMoves 2 years ago
Assuming how nitrogen affects you derived from how alcohol affected you is a mistake. These are two different things.
Nitrogen narcosis may start already 18, not only 40 as the film says.
I was deepest 43,7m on air in a cave (Hévíz in Hungary). I was severly hit by nitrogen.
56m is the deepest CMAS allows on air.
Going 60m on air is simply stupid. Going 70m or deeper on air is a one way ticket.
PeterVerhas 2 years ago
What some people don't understand is that when some divers get Narc'd, it's more like a bad mushroom trip rather than alcohol intoxication and experience terror and hallucinations instead of the euphoria a lot of people think everyone gets while diving "Air"
CanadianWorkDivers 2 years ago
I think I cope with narcosis well cos I,m a calmed person even drunk and I so that gives me advantage... people trying to experience depth should ask themselves a question..do I lose control when i'm drunk? do I do stupid things? have I ever been drunk at all... I remmember a student back when i was instructor who got scared when going down to 30m for her deep dive, once on the boat she explained to me that not knowing what was going on on her mind freaked her out because never tried alcohol..
dsysk 2 years ago
dive nitrox to dive the arch I don't think so dude
MPG350 2 years ago
The firs picture is the canyon :D
paronfisk 2 years ago
This video is a bit obsolete- we now no longer dive deep air! Proper gas and GUE-style diving is much more fun !
GregoryPribush 2 years ago 2
That's a very GUE thing to say :)
amidyville 2 years ago
i never been past 42 meters on air
atnipjoe 2 years ago
never past -60mt without doubles(or more) and mix!
thats a fact!
adrianopizarro 2 years ago
adrianopizarro : Agree!
overseasmedia 2 years ago
A deep air dive before trimix? WTF TDI
metfanlisa 2 years ago 2
metfanlisa: sure, that's what they normally do (did) and I am sure still do "air warm up dives)
overseasmedia 2 years ago
Nice....thanks for the vid
skiboyscuba 2 years ago
get an Atmospheric Diving System suit, no more narcosis poblems..
battlemaster116 2 years ago
i guess you don't dive
atnipjoe 2 years ago
it was just for fun, you don't know what a ADS suit is?
battlemaster116 2 years ago
atnipjoe: YOu guess "WHO "don't dive"?? Me? Or any character in the video?
overseasmedia 2 years ago
If you have to ask what the impact of trimix would be, you shouldn't be deep diving!
Lehmann108 2 years ago
no limits philosophy doesn't work on deep diving.......
Banduenga 2 years ago
i fing getting narked hilarious just dont keep going down when you feel it thats when i gets on your nevres
ginobrun 3 years ago
ginobrun: Well, you see, the thing is sometimes you don't know when "to stop"! (lol)
overseasmedia 3 years ago
I've only gone through PADI and GUE, so it blows me away reading that that's their practice. No wonder some GUE guys are hardcore about "strokes".
Curious now if this docu addresses what I just noticed on this video. Does it compare GUE with TDI and other certification agencies? I mean as an audient, when I first heard it the info just whisked by, but now that we are chatting, it It certainly raises the question for me. Of course between you and me the docu answers the question very subtly :)
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: #1 I think: "a stroke" is a state of consciousness.People who are open to learn something new, even if they are diving deep air are not strokes.A stroke is one with the closed mind, who think they know everything and have nothing to learn, they are stubborn and agressively stupid.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
noantsproductions #2 Unfortunately this doc. doesn't compare TDI, SDI, and other training agencies with DIR-GUE, since in that case I would never be able to broadcast the film, it would be perceived as an agressive "marketing for GUE", and that's not what I meant to achieve. My purpose was to make people (divers) aware of the fact there is an alternative way of training that's much better than what they used to.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
It's subtle enough :)
Can't wait to see it!
noantsproductions 3 years ago
What was the profile of their dive, I mean one guy has to go down on air to get narked and experience it while the other is on a better gas? Is this the TDI curriculum for his class?
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: The profile was 60 m for 20 min (mod 65m) as far as I remember. The ohter diver is Ben Reymenants (TDI Instructor) and he also had air as his bottom gas. That was an Extended Range dive.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
So they go down on air, on purpose, to get narked on purpose? This is a TDI curriculum?
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: Sorry, I was supposed to comment it: ER (extended range class) is a part of TDI tech dive training, all tech classes in TDI preceeding Advanced TMX including "advanced nitrox","deco procedures" and "ER" are DEEP AIR DIVES. Extended range is the course which teaches you to dive DEEP AIR, so there is no way they could "dive a better gas", they dive "better bottom mix" when they dive down to 100m.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
sorry if I'm lagging behind here... and again no pun intended, I just don't know anything about TDI; just really asking -- they teach you to dive DEEP on AIR? ...what then is their "better(?)" bottom mix on this dive? how about at 100m?
ANd there seems to be a lot of TDI tech classes. There was a part in the video not sure if it was this one), the student asked what instructor recommends the instructor had to pause to think which ONE! (this time pun intended)
Thanks for the responses.
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: No problems, I am very happy to give you all the naswers you're seeking. Indeed TDI does teach to dive deep air down to 60 m. They teach Adv. TMX after you have accomplished ER course (you can see that on the video) so of course they teach to dive TMX below 60m in theory...
overseasmedia 3 years ago
noantsproductions: Unlikely GUE, TDI don't have standard gases. So when you're calculating trimix for a deep dive, - it's up to you to choose your END that you're you're "comfortable with". You choose you deco gases individually too.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
noantsproductions #2 On practice, the divers dive down 80-90 m on air as a result, but that is considered to be a violation of TDI standards.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
I get narked at about 50 meters. It feels really scary, I need to concsiousely get a grip on myself not to panic.
noantsproductions 3 years ago
noantsproductions: I understand you very well.. the way it feels is awful, and as a TDI diver who did lots of my deep dives on air, I am saying "that's not the best way to dive".
overseasmedia 3 years ago
ONE LESS ZIONIST CANT BE A BAD THING!
greenteabag7 3 years ago
So who exactly found Yuri's body?
Ronhend 3 years ago
Ronhend: Tarek Omar.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Regarding Yuri's body recovery, there was another guy involved, his name was James Smith he died in the same Blue Hole in 2003
scubazmei 3 years ago
do you know if "james smith" was english and had strait blonde hair about 20 something years old, PADI instructor?
greenteabag7 3 years ago
greenteabag7: Yes, exactly, that was James Smith, you can see him in the 'Sacred Truth' documentary, his photo I mean. Hewas blonde, straight hair, PADI instructor, he took part in recovering Yuri Lipski's body and yes, he was British
scubazmei 3 years ago
greenteabag7: Exactly that was the guy James, he died in 2003. I have his picture in the documentary.
overseasmedia 3 years ago
GOneScUBA: No, no, he didn't do anything wrong in Yuri's case. He recovered the body with the team of his divers (from his dive shop) there were a few complaints about him being involved into other rescue parties organized, that was a long time ago, I'll tell you aout it later, OK?
overseasmedia 3 years ago
Thanks Elena for sharing this!
Tarek Omar... hmm.. there's something mysterious about him...
GOneScUBa 3 years ago
GOneScUBA: Hey, Mitch! Your dead right about Tarek Omar, he is shrouded in "mystery". That's true. Did you get the documentary? Tarek is talking about Yuri Lispki there...
overseasmedia 3 years ago