Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
Great video but I think that Fox is not only a shill but also that Fox has ignrorant front people doing the will of some very intelligent people behind the scenes. People like like Cavuto and Beck would never be taken seriously by the educated but your tea party types gravitate to these type characters and the management at Fox know this. You could explain this video to Fox fans and they would never get it.
Oh and to answer your question LiberalViewer, I can almost guarantee you that there IS an internal memo, to all Fox news employees, to not say what Libby did is a crime. That's how Fox news works.
@Dire327 I am with you on this one. My response would be similar and to direct, "What makes any rationalist, non-fox sheep, even think that they DO NOT have such a memo?" I agree with @ATG13 that there was an electrical storm going off in that girls head from her faulty fox wiring. Must have had her wiring job outsourced to the same dick chenney corp. spin off that did the wiring that electrocuted our troops.
Lib., why do your videos have so many dislikes? Do you vote them down yourself? I bet you have a bunch of secret channels you use solely to vote yourself down because you're such a modest person. *tussles your hair*
@mikosaaol He doesn't have to mention that Libby did not out Valerie Plame Wilson. We know he didn't out her. What Libby did that was wrong was cover it up and then lie to the FBI and perjure himself to the grand jury about the whole thing. It was very clear at the beginning of the video what Libby was investigated for and ultimately convicted of. At no point in this video did he say or even imply that it was Libby that outed Valerie Plame Wilson. However he was involved in the process.
Your logic escapes me. On the one hand you want to chastise and nit-pick FOX for poor word choice and then you turn around and specifically mislead viewers into thinking that Libby's crime was more than a perjury charge. I would bet that you are neither fair nor balanced when it comes to Clinton's perjury charge.
@alefacepay It was more than just a perjury charge. Two counts of perjury, one for obstruction of justice, and one for lying to investigators. All of which are felonies, btw.
@alefacepay How does he specifically mislead viewers? Libby was convicted on four charges, only two of which were perjury charges. The others he was convicted on were one count of obstruction of justice and one count of making false statements to the FBI. So his crime actually was "more than a perjury charge."
holy crap.. thats funny.. Fox News is totally full of it.. Why can't this be put on tv? Im sure alot of people would see Fox News for what they really are?
dont mess with the ZIONIST JEW NEOCON criminals runnin our media/government...fox is owned by murdoch..his mother joy greenes jewish..and the fox news ceo roger ailes is jewish...the jews run our country....'when were done sqeezing America for what we want,it can dry up and blow away....rev 2:9 'those who say they are jews but are not,the synagogue of satan'
@treon123456 ...'when were done sueezing America for what we want,it can dry up and blow away'-bibi netanyahu whie leaving spy for isreal,jonathan pollards jail cell....isreal mossad/neocons=9/11....rahm emanual(obamas chief of staff) and micheal chertoff (head of homeland security)are dual citizen Isrealis!
There was undoubtedly a directive on this one. What's most amazing to me is this. For at least the past few years FOX has been rightfully criticized for its bias, yet nothing changes. Every single time I turn on FOX, I expect to see something that's just a bit more balanced. Doesn't happen, though. It's amazing and should be illegal.
@demmmm1 Over here in the UK we have Sky News, also part of Murdoch's empire but it's nowhere near as bad as Fox because we have laws against biased news corps. Fox is like something out of an Orwellian nightmare.
Obama is half black and half white therefore he isn't fully black the reason he looks black is because the black genes come out more because his fathe ris black if his mother was black and father white he would look more white thats common sense but he is the first mixed president and thats real talk lol and i aint racist when i like and am attracted to black women, try again, fail lol
Republicans and democrats are bought and paid for by the Elites they are puppets for there own gain, maybe people should watch the Obama Deception and see that he isn't gonna change this country around in 4 years, he will be a one and one president, Ron Paul would have been better.
YEA HE WILL BE A ONE TERMER I AGREE, BUT THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND REALISTIC. AND HISTORY SHOWS THAT THOSE WHO MAKE SACRIFICES DONT CATER TO THE STUPID PUBLIC.
DOESNT RON PAUL WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GOLD STANDARD? WHY IS THIS GOOD?
All in order to say that the other party was wrong and racist for not voting in a black man when he isnt fully black, lets get off the black/white issue and lets bring our troops home from both wars that both presidents bush and obama believe is need to fight terrorism when the real terrorist is in our governments.
FIGHT FOR FAIR USE LOL thats funny say obama is the first black president is like saying an illegal immigrant is a legal citizen of US. Ok, Fox, PMSNBC, CNN are all controlled one painst the picture like they are fair and balanced and the other is were for equality, if there for equality then the democratic party would stop sponsoring race-baiting issues, inform there party voters that they started the KKK movment and margaret sanger wanted to kill black babies, genocide. licoln was racist to.
inconsistent recollections of facts during numerous interviews during the investigation of Scooter Libby is what led to any conviction, nothing close to outing a CIA agent...get over it, it was a politically motivated investigation, the special prosecutor knew Richard Armitage was the source of the leak before the investigation was started
@tuberbrain That's an absurd statement as the crime Libby was supposed to be punished for was not the leak itself. JUst like Nixon, what got his head on a block was the obstruction aspect. So when you regurgitate a right wing talking point, it's best to know the actual facts.Second, you like to slam the investigation as a partisan/politically motivated attack, but you don't bother to mention the politically motive to blow Plame's cover and subsequently her associates weeks after Wilson's piece.
U R doing a great job-LIBERAL VIEWER- it takes dedicated people like you to change anything. Keep up the good work and people like urself will make things like FAUx NewS crumble. The truth hurts
every national news media outlet is controlled by a larger entity and cannot be fully trusted to be completely unbiased...although Fox seems to be the worst
The news anchor kept avoiding the word "crimes'' but that's what it really is. So hypocritical. If it had been Al Gore's chief of staff then she won't have a problem using the word "crime"
Most people have trouble seeing and hearing what is there. few people notice what is not there. Thus Sherlock Holmes solved a case by asking, "Why didn't the dog bark?" Keep up the good work.
To parafrase an overquated Book it is easer for a camal to pass threw the eye of an needle than the truth to pass the lips of a Fox NEWS reporter. Why dont they do awaywith the pretence and just rename them selfs BUSH NEWS?
Fox is the tool of Murdock, pure and simple. The memo that was passed to them, how they treated Ron Paul.. their credibility in many places and especially in my opinion is so bankrupt, they deserve to go off the air for being "Unfair and Unbalanced".
Political fellatio is why they don't call what Scooter Libby did a crime! To be honest, it seems obvious why he did it. I think Dick Cheney or George Bush were the one's who gave Valerie Plains Identity to that fucking dinasour, Bob Novak. Dick Armitage took a bullet that was not meant for him.
Yeah, but strangely, they continue to receive plenty of viewers....I am glad you aren't one of them, but a lot of sheep are, and don't care to see anything wrong with it.
That is the ultimate travesty - that Fox news calls itself conservative. What they, and the neocons have done, is hijack real conservatism for their own agenda. Real conservatives do not favor nation building by force, understand the value of alliances, and believe in limited govt not corrupt govt. The late great William F. Buckley Jr. was a true conservative - he was arguably its modern founder. Fox, Limbaugh, etc are frauds.
yes but every time they do it maybe they will wake one of the sheep up i say god bless the people who make the vids its the work of the darn lord being done here i say fuck thease jew zionist skull and bone mother fuckers surely you cant knock that message : peace
Astute points: you don't pardon someone for a trial or an investigation, you pardon them for a CRIME. That poor newsgirl sounds like she's on heavy meds ... desperately looking for another word to use instead of the obvious one, & then making herself sound idiotic when she finally succeeds.
Now just imagine what it'd take for FOX News to refer to Plame's outing as what it really is - "TREASON" - especially when the traitors are in the Oval Office.
Is it really a revelation that Fox news is ridiculously biased to the right-wing and therefore they're going to issue directives to reporters to distort their words in their favour?
I'm not sure what this is meant to prove, other than what everyone already knows - Fox news represents far right-wing thinking.
Dude you're really good and you deliver this info in a very good way, not too much passion as where people can then call you in it, you just stick to facts and observations and if you can see them clearly u dont need to raise your voice or turn up the passion to make your point. Glad I found u.
This was one of your best videos I've seen yet, very perceptive.
I no longer hold very much doubt that FOX news IS issuing directives to it's employees to control how content and messages are presented to the viewer.
It's all a forum of control you want to see something really funny run a search for the view rosie odonald and fox news watch how they bash her and twist up her words when she speaks the truth...
Absolutely there was a directive given to fox news to not refer to scooter Libby's crimes using the word "crime". I bet you he is connected to an organization (just like a secret society if it isn't one) that has people with high authority that work for Fox news.
Oh here come's the maturity police...nightwalkboy; the supreme judge of all that's mature. I value your opinion greatly.(hard to communicate a sarcastic tone over the internet)
Why am I not surprised? Because it's FOX News that's why...you can catch the fox with the chicken in it's mouth and it will look at you and tell you that i
LV...you are a true American.....The price of freedom is eternal vigilance & if you dont mind me saying you are one vigilant mofo.....Thank you for your patriotism.
Guys do u realize how much of a difference we're making? Mainstream media can no longer hide da facts n control da message as dey have been for da past century! We r putting tremendous pressure on previously Zionistic propaganda machines such as Cnn, ABC, NBC, n CBS 2 provide more balanced, credible, n objective reporting. We r askin da tough questions. Now those stil sellin d hawkish agenda like FOX News, r isolated, out dated, n government manipulated
So I hear five news organizations have agreed to pay Wen Ho Lee $750,000 of a Privacy Act Lawsuit. It seems the news organizations included The Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, ABC News and the Associated Press. And that<b><u>CNN declined</b></u> to participate in the settlement. I wonder if the sources involved were Bush Vs Clinton Admin, would the press be more inclined to give up their sources?
More: To be fair, shouldn't their be an investigation of the Clinton Admin leakers in the Wen Ho Lee case as there was in the Plame case? After all, Lee's life and livlihood really was destroyed...
Is that anything like a hypocrite? Sorry to take you to task on a typo. I happen to agree with your stance. If this is representative gov't and so many don't want this war, why does it persist? What the people wants matters two handfuls of shit to these traitors. Hail David Rockerfeller, your REAL president!
Many still are without relief with no plans from the White House to help. The US military has the WMD's. Just look at what's left of Fallujah! Mexicans are invading the US and killing it's citizens, yet the government stays tight lipped. How DO you like these gas prices?
To kill muslims before they kill us sillY. We should re-insitute the draft and get the gang bangers over there! Gang bangers fighting muslims, now THAT'S a win win.
tizzy741: Well said. VERY Important issue: the US will be BROKE, and SOON, if the Gov't doesn't stop with the wars. If it keeps up, where will the money come from? Who will be asked to dig deep to help "this great nation". The US is not rich, or popular, and owes, owes, owes... Vote Ron Paul.
Why they'll just get the federal reserve to print more, like they have been doing! They aren't the ones paying it back or sending their kids to fight their illegal wars. Maybe if the US was broke, it would stop this insanity, bring home the troops and put them on the Mexican border where they belong!
You'd think they'd learn from watching other (African) countries go down the same way. Print print print. I say, build a fence. Always wondered why there never was one. Between US and Canada, I can see no need. Canadians aren't coming down in busloads looking for money to send back to Canada. All the money that gets sent to Mexico that should be going back into the Am economy. I do feel sorry for them, but there must be some other way...
You gonna spam the same shit over and over? Guess it works if you're clueless. However I must take issue with your figures. 1 blow job? Only 1.8 million underinsured? DUH? Since their care is free why care if they have insurance? R U a closet state farm veep or something?
So name one policy that Clinton initiated(you'll have to look that word up) that led to any of the those other benefits, like balanced budget etc. I'm sure Newt Gingrich would be amused.
When someone in the Bush Administration leaks a covert agent's name and officials high up the command chain lie about the issue, how is that anything but a failure of an administration to even protect the very programs that are vital to national security?
If Clinton did this exact thing, I'm sure you'd be foaming and fitting
Always Clinton. Well who hired Craig Livingstone who oversaw the stealing of 900+ FBI files? WHO HIRED HIM? Can someone just walk into the whitehouse and direct employees to commit multiple felonies? I guess so if you have a fawning press.
Yes I do blame 9-11 on Clinton. His all talk and no backup. His lameness and unwillingness to stand for anything, plus spending all his time and efforts covering for his "blowjob".
This is a comparison over the first 4yrs ONLY. I really don't know how he kept his job? Median household income, change Clinton: +1.7% per year Bush: -1.6% per year Number of Americans in poverty (average change per year) Clinton: -800,000 Bush: +1.5 million Number of Americans without health insurance Clinton: +145,000 Bush: +1,885,000 Federal surplus/deficit (annual average): Clinton: +$5 billion Bush: -$350 billion Clinton: 1 blow job Bush: Choked on Pretzel
demliars your comment lacks one thing--NUMBERS! By the way Clinton should never have been in court because who he has sex with isn't our business. I rather have a president that gets laid than one that ruins our economy.
To answer the question, because Scooter Libby didn't commit a crime. If this is the best a liberal prosecutor can do in this environoment of lies and bullshit, Fitz-nifong should be investigated.
I don't have to show you shit surrender monkey but if only those in Iraq can vote on the matter why does the surrender monkey party suppress their votes every chance they get? That's hypocracy.
"Bring the troops home" Why? Armies are for killing people and breaking things, let them do their job.
Even if all you Bush bashers are right, we don't need a leftist political opportunists working covert, there's enough of them here already. They're called the state department.
No the Bush bashers will. Bush stands up to terrorists, leftists do. Everything your surrender monkey leaders say is BROADCASTED to muslims who hate us. Congratulations.
But, that puts you on the wrong side of AMERICANS so please let us know who you are by displaying white flag, gay flag, or whatever. But be sure and let the Americans know who the cowards are.
Well, thanks for finally clarifying that even "leftists" will sstand up to terrorists.
Six years after 9/11, regular assurances that "Al Qaeda's on the run", although repirts by people in the actual know say different. Did you happen to know all this "al Qaeda in Iraq" business is actually Sunni based?
Saudi arabia is a Sunni Muslim country, and they send over MANY willing paticipants to al Qaeda "in Iraq".
That's also the same Saudi Arabia where Bush kisses their rulers.
Meanwhile, the safe haven, the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan, are as safe as ever under Bush's oversight.
You remember them? They're the ones that actually attacked this country, and stil remain as strong as ever.
Please, also remind us how Pakistan,a tenuous dictatorship, is also a nuclear power. Then also remind people how the father of Pakistan's nuclear power remains a national hero!
MUSLIMS attacked this country, and Germany and Britain and Spain and France... MUSLIMS.
So should we invade Pakistan? Should we invade Saudia Arabia? Why this straw man argument when your ilk are just a bunch of pansies who don't want the U.S. to prevail.
Sunni Muslims attacked this country from nations like Saudi Arabia and Dubai. These nations are also providing Sunni recruits to the Sunni run "Al Qaeda in Iraq".
After 9/11, Dubai banks even refused to seize financial assets of known terrorists. Should we invade those countries? No. Yet where is the urging them for cooperation?
The GOP has more straw men than all the cornfields of Iowa, Kansas, and Nebraska combined.
They're foaming at the mouth over a big fence around Mexico, but Bush has failed to secure the borders of Iraq or Afghanistan. To answer your question about attacking the Saudis or Pakistan, no. However, their borders are exceptionally porous.
I misspoke, leftists don't. We are at war with radical muslim. Borders don't matter, and you and your kind don't matter. You'll make up and regurgitate any lie your surrender monkey leaders mouth to you.
Especially considering that Iraq's borders with Saudi Arabia, as well as Iran, are not secured. Same about that pourous border between Pakistan and Afgahnistan.
Six years later, and that remains an afterthought in the Bush Administration.
Former CIA operative Valerie Plame lost a lawsuit on Thursday that DEMANDED MONEY from Bush administration officials that she blamed for leaking her CIA identity. The case against all defendants: Cheney, White House political adviser Karl Rove, former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was dismissed.
Should have been. She should be investigated for denying recommending the "ambassador" under oath to a senate committee. Seems this "agent" thinks she's all that and a bag of chips. She's a democrat political whore with a taxpayer charge card.
Yeah, I can't understand how someone would have the gall to be mad after having the sitting administration ruin their career and then lie to cover it up; definite case of whoring for political gain. NOT! You need to step back and get some perspective!
How did the administration ruin her career? She was so devastated she appeared on magazine covers and she and her husband can peddle thier lies, evidenlty without recourse, for millions. Cry me a river.
Scooter Libby LIED to a grand jury UNDER OATH regarding who compromised a national security leak..
The FACT that Republicans like Libby will lie about matters like a national security program is a reflection of how Bush and the rest of his incompetent lackeys THINK they are above the law iis in FACT a CONTEMPT for the Ameican people they are supposed to SERVE!
"No one including scooter was charged with outing her. "
No, Irving "Scooter" Libby was only involved in lying about who did and obstructing an honest investigation of the matter.
I would think that anybody that high up in the chain would want to know the very real details of nuclear material traffic flow and keep covert agents covert.
As a covert agent, Valerie Plame did not have any diplomatic immunity or protection if she was caught while doing her vital national intelligence work. To repeat, this was work involving the international flow of nuclear material. You know, things like stopping the flow of WMDs into the hands of terrorists.
Intelligence operatives also don't work in a vacuum, perhaps one day we'll find out how many other operatives working for the US were compromised.
When someone in the Bush Administration leaks a covert agent's name and officials high up the command chain lie about the issue, how is that anything but a failure of an administration to even protect the very programs that are vital to national security?
If Clinton did this exact thing, I'm sure you'd be foaming and fitting.
OH MY GOD! Valerie Plame had Non Official Cover or NOC pronounced 'knock', which means she was undercover but not working in a seemingly benign governmental job. She was working for a dummie corporation as a cover. It is a deeper form of cover than Official Cover. She WAS undercover, the administration DID out her. Check your DAMN facts!
That's not arguing the point -- You're covering for the administration by making glib assertions. It's spin when you try to make someone who was the victim seem like a selfish liar when it was the administration that caused the whole affair. Don't blame politics for being politics when it doesn't work for you.
she didn't lose the case, the court found that it did not have jurisdiction to hear the case, though the judge did note that there appeared to be improper activity in the Oval Office.
Yeah, and it's a shame she lost since her entire career was ruined just because the administration had its ego bruised. I'd DEMAND some MONEY too if it was me.
No, he was convicted of intentinally misleading the investigator (obstruction of justice) and lying under oath (perjury). The judge, a Repbulican, stated that the evidence against Scooter was "overwhleming."
I've listened to this a lot, and to the comments made and I've changed my mind. While Fox is clearly the most managed source of inforation on the air, in this case I think that the reporter stumbled when she said "severity." She should have said "serious nature" or some such phrase. It is the serious nature of what was being investigated that makes Libby's obstruction of that investigation warrent his sentence.
I agree with what you are saying. I'm just noting that the reporter may well have intended to refer to the serious nature of the investigation that Mr. Libby obstruted. Of course her slip on the word "trial" is another matter.
Almost certainly, Fox has issued an editorial mandate to avoid the word "crime" in connection to Scooter Libby's conviction.
You know, the airwaves are owned by the public, and a self-described "news" channel should be held accountable to a reasonable standard of serving public interest, not special interests. I think the FCC should be expected to discipline broadcasters using public airwaves who irresponsibly execute their public trust.
"You know, the airwaves are owned by the public, and a self-described "news" channel should be held accountable to a reasonable standard of serving public interest, not special interests. I think the FCC should be expected to discipline broadcasters using public airwaves who irresponsibly execute their public trust."
Urgelt do you think yourself and LV should at some point be held to that same standard with your youtube videos?
Federal law *requires* regulation of publicly owned airwaves to ensure that they serve the public interest. That spectrum is public property. Spectrum users are allowed to make a profit off of it in exchange for meeting public needs.
Why, exactly, would you want the government's regulatory responsibility expanded to cover cable and the internet? No public spectrum is involved, and there's no law in the US granting government such a role.
It is not beyond the reach of government to define internet bandwidth "public" and to pass such legislation. That would be consistent with historic Interstate Commerce Clause interpretations. So, it could be done. My view is that any such control (including goverenmnt content control over broadcaset media) is a bad thing. The consumer must become more sophisticated and alternate voices unsuppressed.
A light regulatory hand is what is usually needed over public spectrum.
But no regulatory hand for broadcasting is not acceptable to me, because CBS and NBC and Fox and ABC do not own the airwaves they are using. I do, and my fellow citizens. It's a public trust, and it comes with strings.
The government *could* poke its nose into the tent and regulate, say, internet content, or telephone conversations, or what we say at a barbecue with friends. I'd prefer not to see that happen.
Your position is consistent with the historic treatment of this topic. I'm taking the more libertarian position that any government interferance with the flow of information is a bad thing. My rationale is "Type I - Type II error analysis" The potential abuses of an unregulated information distribution system are less dangerous than the abuses of a regulated information distribution system. 1984 is still relevant literature.
I'm sympathetic to your view - until it's applied to a broadcaster who squats on airwaves you and I own, and then uses that resource to advantage a particular political party.
There isn't very much public spectrum available, you know. Anyone can't just jump in and start broadcasting. By its nature, it has to be regulated - otherwise a multitude of signals would simply jam each other out of existence.
If you limit your arguement to assignment of frequencies and broadcast wattage limits, of course I agree. But if you expand your argument to include content our opinions diverge. There was a time when access to broadcast spectrum equated to market-share of information flow, but now the broadcast spectrum is growing increasingly trivial. Do you get your TV signal from an antenae? Do you know anyone who does?
If Barack Obama had been convicted of this "investigation of which he is being charged with obstructing", FoxNews would not mince words: he'd be called a criminal and his photo would be plastered on the screen everytime they mentioned his crime. Just goes to show that Fox takes care of their own.
filthy reactionary religious right wing illiterate dummies.
perfectbark 1 month ago
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Slowly, people ARE starting to realize what Fox and other media outlets are all about... It's time for the News to be News again. 3 part solution: 1. Every channel must provide a 1 hour News program WITHOUT COMMERCIALS. 2. News programs should not be rated by any Ratings system. 3. All News Channels live by the same rules, but are "Pay TV" for revenues as opposed to advertising.
Bawbster1 7 months ago in playlist Fox News Bias
Shut up, then die!
TheBelldiver 8 months ago
Fox News FTW.
YouHateGasgara 11 months ago
Great video but I think that Fox is not only a shill but also that Fox has ignrorant front people doing the will of some very intelligent people behind the scenes. People like like Cavuto and Beck would never be taken seriously by the educated but your tea party types gravitate to these type characters and the management at Fox know this. You could explain this video to Fox fans and they would never get it.
billoakesattablthree 11 months ago
Wow. It was like she had a chip in her head that prevented her from saying "crime". She was trying, but the programming wouldn't allow it. :P
ATG913 1 year ago 3
Great Videos i Hate Fox NEWS
nspits 1 year ago 4
Oh and to answer your question LiberalViewer, I can almost guarantee you that there IS an internal memo, to all Fox news employees, to not say what Libby did is a crime. That's how Fox news works.
Dire327 1 year ago
@Dire327 I am with you on this one. My response would be similar and to direct, "What makes any rationalist, non-fox sheep, even think that they DO NOT have such a memo?" I agree with @ATG13 that there was an electrical storm going off in that girls head from her faulty fox wiring. Must have had her wiring job outsourced to the same dick chenney corp. spin off that did the wiring that electrocuted our troops.
walkermydawg 11 months ago
I'll tell you why. Because Fox news has a hard time demonizing anyone that isn't a Liberal.
Dire327 1 year ago 2
Lib., why do your videos have so many dislikes? Do you vote them down yourself? I bet you have a bunch of secret channels you use solely to vote yourself down because you're such a modest person. *tussles your hair*
xXFlockofGriffinsXx 1 year ago
Haha. They choke on their words so hard. "dar dar... investigation... dar dar burden... dar dar trial..." It's like they're playing that game Taboo.
jeffdoeskungfu 1 year ago 2
Of course there was a directive not to refer to what he did as a crime! I'd put my bottom dollar on that without breaking sweat.
illuminumnuts 1 year ago
you forgot to mention that scooter libby did not out valarie flame. it was richard armitage and the prosacutor knew that fact . you do also.
mikosaaol 1 year ago
@mikosaaol He doesn't have to mention that Libby did not out Valerie Plame Wilson. We know he didn't out her. What Libby did that was wrong was cover it up and then lie to the FBI and perjure himself to the grand jury about the whole thing. It was very clear at the beginning of the video what Libby was investigated for and ultimately convicted of. At no point in this video did he say or even imply that it was Libby that outed Valerie Plame Wilson. However he was involved in the process.
thegreatdaveo 1 year ago
Your logic escapes me. On the one hand you want to chastise and nit-pick FOX for poor word choice and then you turn around and specifically mislead viewers into thinking that Libby's crime was more than a perjury charge. I would bet that you are neither fair nor balanced when it comes to Clinton's perjury charge.
alefacepay 1 year ago
@alefacepay What is this I don't even
Nuzzlemeister 1 year ago
@alefacepay It was more than just a perjury charge. Two counts of perjury, one for obstruction of justice, and one for lying to investigators. All of which are felonies, btw.
cerpintaxt83 1 year ago
@alefacepay How does he specifically mislead viewers? Libby was convicted on four charges, only two of which were perjury charges. The others he was convicted on were one count of obstruction of justice and one count of making false statements to the FBI. So his crime actually was "more than a perjury charge."
thegreatdaveo 1 year ago 2
holy crap.. thats funny.. Fox News is totally full of it.. Why can't this be put on tv? Im sure alot of people would see Fox News for what they really are?
lamont70 1 year ago
@lamont70 You kidding right? I would hope that at least a third of Americans know Fox News is full of shit!
illuminumnuts 1 year ago 2
dont mess with the ZIONIST JEW NEOCON criminals runnin our media/government...fox is owned by murdoch..his mother joy greenes jewish..and the fox news ceo roger ailes is jewish...the jews run our country....'when were done sqeezing America for what we want,it can dry up and blow away....rev 2:9 'those who say they are jews but are not,the synagogue of satan'
treon123456 1 year ago
@treon123456 ...'when were done sueezing America for what we want,it can dry up and blow away'-bibi netanyahu whie leaving spy for isreal,jonathan pollards jail cell....isreal mossad/neocons=9/11....rahm emanual(obamas chief of staff) and micheal chertoff (head of homeland security)are dual citizen Isrealis!
treon123456 1 year ago
There was undoubtedly a directive on this one. What's most amazing to me is this. For at least the past few years FOX has been rightfully criticized for its bias, yet nothing changes. Every single time I turn on FOX, I expect to see something that's just a bit more balanced. Doesn't happen, though. It's amazing and should be illegal.
demmmm1 1 year ago
@demmmm1 Over here in the UK we have Sky News, also part of Murdoch's empire but it's nowhere near as bad as Fox because we have laws against biased news corps. Fox is like something out of an Orwellian nightmare.
ironlamb 1 year ago
Obama is half black and half white therefore he isn't fully black the reason he looks black is because the black genes come out more because his fathe ris black if his mother was black and father white he would look more white thats common sense but he is the first mixed president and thats real talk lol and i aint racist when i like and am attracted to black women, try again, fail lol
RideWitChrist 1 year ago
@RideWitChrist That's bullshit dude. Doesn't matter which parent is black.
ironlamb 1 year ago
Republicans and democrats are bought and paid for by the Elites they are puppets for there own gain, maybe people should watch the Obama Deception and see that he isn't gonna change this country around in 4 years, he will be a one and one president, Ron Paul would have been better.
RideWitChrist 1 year ago
@RideWitChrist
YEA HE WILL BE A ONE TERMER I AGREE, BUT THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND REALISTIC. AND HISTORY SHOWS THAT THOSE WHO MAKE SACRIFICES DONT CATER TO THE STUPID PUBLIC.
DOESNT RON PAUL WANT TO GO BACK TO THE GOLD STANDARD? WHY IS THIS GOOD?
AntiVenomFangX 1 year ago
All in order to say that the other party was wrong and racist for not voting in a black man when he isnt fully black, lets get off the black/white issue and lets bring our troops home from both wars that both presidents bush and obama believe is need to fight terrorism when the real terrorist is in our governments.
RideWitChrist 1 year ago
FIGHT FOR FAIR USE LOL thats funny say obama is the first black president is like saying an illegal immigrant is a legal citizen of US. Ok, Fox, PMSNBC, CNN are all controlled one painst the picture like they are fair and balanced and the other is were for equality, if there for equality then the democratic party would stop sponsoring race-baiting issues, inform there party voters that they started the KKK movment and margaret sanger wanted to kill black babies, genocide. licoln was racist to.
RideWitChrist 1 year ago
@ RideWitChrist
man you are fucking crazy. hilarious name, too. what barn were you raised in?
marzilyas 1 year ago 2
@RideWitChrist What the hell are you talking about? Get your facts straight.
redskins00025 1 year ago
Uhh ridewitChrist, your condemning others of racism would sound a lot more convincing if you weren't making racist remarks in the same post.
Yes, ride. Obama IS the first Black President of the US. He's a black guy, he's President and as far as we know he's the first one to be both.
booley 1 year ago
"aaahh.....uuuuhhhh....aaaahhh......severity of the investigation"
One of the most obvious Fox News biases exposed!
doriamedina 1 year ago
inconsistent recollections of facts during numerous interviews during the investigation of Scooter Libby is what led to any conviction, nothing close to outing a CIA agent...get over it, it was a politically motivated investigation, the special prosecutor knew Richard Armitage was the source of the leak before the investigation was started
tuberbrain 1 year ago
@tuberbrain That's an absurd statement as the crime Libby was supposed to be punished for was not the leak itself. JUst like Nixon, what got his head on a block was the obstruction aspect. So when you regurgitate a right wing talking point, it's best to know the actual facts.Second, you like to slam the investigation as a partisan/politically motivated attack, but you don't bother to mention the politically motive to blow Plame's cover and subsequently her associates weeks after Wilson's piece.
joecraine69shimself 1 year ago 3
U R doing a great job-LIBERAL VIEWER- it takes dedicated people like you to change anything. Keep up the good work and people like urself will make things like FAUx NewS crumble. The truth hurts
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KristinaBrooker 2 years ago
every national news media outlet is controlled by a larger entity and cannot be fully trusted to be completely unbiased...although Fox seems to be the worst
hotblud82 2 years ago 4
The news anchor kept avoiding the word "crimes'' but that's what it really is. So hypocritical. If it had been Al Gore's chief of staff then she won't have a problem using the word "crime"
kakompo 2 years ago 4
Fox not Facts! Reported by "Fox And Fools"
usdeww 2 years ago
Fox news is not news. It's Murdoch's opinion in a cheap ugly package.
thetoadwarrior 2 years ago 4
FOX NEWS is fucked up.
SonGoku360 2 years ago 8
FOx is scum
Scarfie20 2 years ago 35
people dont understand if your not rich your not truly a republican.
akvalues 2 years ago
Uh...Rupert Murdoch?
akinadownhillace 2 years ago
You're a typical liberal if you really believe that statement. Beliefs, not financial situations, govern what political party you associate with.
TangoCharlie3 2 years ago
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thzorg 2 years ago
Fair and Balanced????? hahaha
BarneyFife82 2 years ago 8
Haha! Why don't you look at the OTHER news stations!
TangoCharlie3 2 years ago
Most people have trouble seeing and hearing what is there. few people notice what is not there. Thus Sherlock Holmes solved a case by asking, "Why didn't the dog bark?" Keep up the good work.
geezzerboy 2 years ago
what is the punishment for outing a cia agent? i call it treason, is there another word for it? and isn't the punishment for treason, death?
tenacity18 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
what the fuck do you care? he is in jail isn't he? then shut the fuck up!
2erict 3 years ago
He isn't in jail, Bush commuted his sentence...And he was most probably covering up for Cheney and/or Bush.
sleepyreader42 3 years ago 8
also, i wanna know why newt greinwich isn't in jail for bouncing 22 checks
come on if me or you bounced ten checks, the fbi would be after us.
i worked at old navy and someone used a stolen credit card. the fbi was there in an hour.
but you know, in america, if you have enough money...u can do whatever you want
fdparis18 3 years ago 8
To parafrase an overquated Book it is easer for a camal to pass threw the eye of an needle than the truth to pass the lips of a Fox NEWS reporter. Why dont they do awaywith the pretence and just rename them selfs BUSH NEWS?
dreamreape 3 years ago 6
ok, i thought the punishment for being a TRAITOR was death.
tenacity18 3 years ago
Fox is the tool of Murdock, pure and simple. The memo that was passed to them, how they treated Ron Paul.. their credibility in many places and especially in my opinion is so bankrupt, they deserve to go off the air for being "Unfair and Unbalanced".
RyuDarragh 3 years ago 2
great video~
TangoBinAlsheed 3 years ago 4
Fox News...
Skewed and Slanted.
chadloflin20 3 years ago 2
Lol good one.
madmercenary 3 years ago
Political fellatio is why they don't call what Scooter Libby did a crime! To be honest, it seems obvious why he did it. I think Dick Cheney or George Bush were the one's who gave Valerie Plains Identity to that fucking dinasour, Bob Novak. Dick Armitage took a bullet that was not meant for him.
SpookeyR 3 years ago
we all love sex and politics!
jupiterisland99 3 years ago
i thought i knew what fox news was capable of... but this just blows me away...
xanderthegreatt 3 years ago 2
Fox is the Devil News Network and Bill O is the main Demon.
mightyblack1 3 years ago 2
Fox employees get good scotch...would endanger your scotch supply? hell no.
anthonyfoxtrott 3 years ago
lol american media is out of control.
RubiconJohn 3 years ago
Orwellian comes to mind.
Nataraja13 3 years ago 2
Yep!
tainoaz 3 years ago
Rich and powerful protect the rich and powerful.......THE WORKING CLASS ARE SUCKERS....I PLEA THE SCOOTER LIBBY IF EVER IN TROUBLE.
CurblineHighway 3 years ago
haha, they must've told the news reporter that whatever she does, she cant say 'crime'
iamth3stig 3 years ago
Guys, everyone knows fox news is conservative. All you're doing here is pointing out the obvious. I'm not too impressed
wilmak3124 3 years ago
Yeah, but strangely, they continue to receive plenty of viewers....I am glad you aren't one of them, but a lot of sheep are, and don't care to see anything wrong with it.
timmyblaze 3 years ago 4
wilmaker
"Guys, everyone knows fox news is conservative"
That is the ultimate travesty - that Fox news calls itself conservative. What they, and the neocons have done, is hijack real conservatism for their own agenda. Real conservatives do not favor nation building by force, understand the value of alliances, and believe in limited govt not corrupt govt. The late great William F. Buckley Jr. was a true conservative - he was arguably its modern founder. Fox, Limbaugh, etc are frauds.
pfg999 3 years ago
yes but every time they do it maybe they will wake one of the sheep up i say god bless the people who make the vids its the work of the darn lord being done here i say fuck thease jew zionist skull and bone mother fuckers surely you cant knock that message : peace
grilfers 3 years ago
ain't it the truth brother..excellent work!
MOPWBodyhammer 3 years ago
Fox is a disgrace.
FCUK FOXNEWS
vraghu117 3 years ago
Astute points: you don't pardon someone for a trial or an investigation, you pardon them for a CRIME. That poor newsgirl sounds like she's on heavy meds ... desperately looking for another word to use instead of the obvious one, & then making herself sound idiotic when she finally succeeds.
Now just imagine what it'd take for FOX News to refer to Plame's outing as what it really is - "TREASON" - especially when the traitors are in the Oval Office.
jamesmorgandavies 3 years ago
litigation?
hge00huw 4 years ago
fox news=treason
19770326 4 years ago 2
Is it really a revelation that Fox news is ridiculously biased to the right-wing and therefore they're going to issue directives to reporters to distort their words in their favour?
I'm not sure what this is meant to prove, other than what everyone already knows - Fox news represents far right-wing thinking.
Eldomina22 4 years ago 2
not everyone knows that.
lushelocution 4 years ago 4
you said it all
19770326 4 years ago
Dude you're really good and you deliver this info in a very good way, not too much passion as where people can then call you in it, you just stick to facts and observations and if you can see them clearly u dont need to raise your voice or turn up the passion to make your point. Glad I found u.
AudioVerite 4 years ago 3
This was one of your best videos I've seen yet, very perceptive.
I no longer hold very much doubt that FOX news IS issuing directives to it's employees to control how content and messages are presented to the viewer.
LolAtComments 4 years ago
Fox thinks they are the decider too, the executive branch...executive suck ass!
videocrash 4 years ago
I hate Fox and their movies!
freemeamg 4 years ago 2
Wow you hit it on the nob!!!
It's all a forum of control you want to see something really funny run a search for the view rosie odonald and fox news watch how they bash her and twist up her words when she speaks the truth...
jupiterstarmoonchild 4 years ago
Absolutely there was a directive given to fox news to not refer to scooter Libby's crimes using the word "crime". I bet you he is connected to an organization (just like a secret society if it isn't one) that has people with high authority that work for Fox news.
TheTristMan 4 years ago
THEY ARE EVIL!!! fox pohibits the word crime when applyed to a republican...
well thats what i think... great video man
thealtrocker 4 years ago
The funny thing about this video is that you made a follow-up video with Fox News saying Libby and "criminal" in the same sentence.
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
Make that Libby and "crime" in the same sentence.
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
Attention FairMindedCitizen: please be more accurate in your complaint of Liberalviewer.
Liberalviewer, in the video you refer to, specifically
mentions how Fox changed its "no crime"-with-"Libby" policy only AFTER Liberalviewer's highly viewed video
of the day came out.
PS It's not the next video but two videos later.
Cligancourt 4 years ago
This shit is great, a lot of people in the world need to be hauled down from their high horses, and need to be beaten.
garvess 4 years ago
how....um.. comforting and mature.
Nightwalkboy 4 years ago
Oh here come's the maturity police...nightwalkboy; the supreme judge of all that's mature. I value your opinion greatly.(hard to communicate a sarcastic tone over the internet)
garvess 4 years ago
...tell you that it's only playing with it!
Sorry for the interrupted thought....
nefersetty 4 years ago
Why am I not surprised? Because it's FOX News that's why...you can catch the fox with the chicken in it's mouth and it will look at you and tell you that i
nefersetty 4 years ago
No question about it. They'd rather look dumb than speak the truth.
dyannne 4 years ago
LV...you are a true American.....The price of freedom is eternal vigilance & if you dont mind me saying you are one vigilant mofo.....Thank you for your patriotism.
It is greatly appreciated.
MissAnthropic66 4 years ago
Well to cut it short. Fox is owned by Rupert Murdoch, Murdoch is a Far-Right tick-turd.
thebigbossnahhh 4 years ago
Guys do u realize how much of a difference we're making? Mainstream media can no longer hide da facts n control da message as dey have been for da past century! We r putting tremendous pressure on previously Zionistic propaganda machines such as Cnn, ABC, NBC, n CBS 2 provide more balanced, credible, n objective reporting. We r askin da tough questions. Now those stil sellin d hawkish agenda like FOX News, r isolated, out dated, n government manipulated
SefSufi 4 years ago
So I hear five news organizations have agreed to pay Wen Ho Lee $750,000 of a Privacy Act Lawsuit. It seems the news organizations included The Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, ABC News and the Associated Press. And that<b><u>CNN declined</b></u> to participate in the settlement. I wonder if the sources involved were Bush Vs Clinton Admin, would the press be more inclined to give up their sources?
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
More: To be fair, shouldn't their be an investigation of the Clinton Admin leakers in the Wen Ho Lee case as there was in the Plame case? After all, Lee's life and livlihood really was destroyed...
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
Is that anything like a hypocrite? Sorry to take you to task on a typo. I happen to agree with your stance. If this is representative gov't and so many don't want this war, why does it persist? What the people wants matters two handfuls of shit to these traitors. Hail David Rockerfeller, your REAL president!
Brawk 4 years ago
Many still are without relief with no plans from the White House to help. The US military has the WMD's. Just look at what's left of Fallujah! Mexicans are invading the US and killing it's citizens, yet the government stays tight lipped. How DO you like these gas prices?
Brawk 4 years ago
To kill muslims before they kill us sillY. We should re-insitute the draft and get the gang bangers over there! Gang bangers fighting muslims, now THAT'S a win win.
demliars 4 years ago
tizzy741: Well said. VERY Important issue: the US will be BROKE, and SOON, if the Gov't doesn't stop with the wars. If it keeps up, where will the money come from? Who will be asked to dig deep to help "this great nation". The US is not rich, or popular, and owes, owes, owes... Vote Ron Paul.
gin5354 4 years ago
Why they'll just get the federal reserve to print more, like they have been doing! They aren't the ones paying it back or sending their kids to fight their illegal wars. Maybe if the US was broke, it would stop this insanity, bring home the troops and put them on the Mexican border where they belong!
Brawk 4 years ago
You'd think they'd learn from watching other (African) countries go down the same way. Print print print. I say, build a fence. Always wondered why there never was one. Between US and Canada, I can see no need. Canadians aren't coming down in busloads looking for money to send back to Canada. All the money that gets sent to Mexico that should be going back into the Am economy. I do feel sorry for them, but there must be some other way...
gin5354 4 years ago
just like his dad......
y8sroxx1 4 years ago
You gonna spam the same shit over and over? Guess it works if you're clueless. However I must take issue with your figures. 1 blow job? Only 1.8 million underinsured? DUH? Since their care is free why care if they have insurance? R U a closet state farm veep or something?
So name one policy that Clinton initiated(you'll have to look that word up) that led to any of the those other benefits, like balanced budget etc. I'm sure Newt Gingrich would be amused.
demliars 4 years ago
Bush lied? How? Get above ground, breath some fresh aor and get a clue!
demliars 4 years ago
So now, ask this.
When someone in the Bush Administration leaks a covert agent's name and officials high up the command chain lie about the issue, how is that anything but a failure of an administration to even protect the very programs that are vital to national security?
If Clinton did this exact thing, I'm sure you'd be foaming and fitting
RobotStarDesign 4 years ago
Always Clinton. Well who hired Craig Livingstone who oversaw the stealing of 900+ FBI files? WHO HIRED HIM? Can someone just walk into the whitehouse and direct employees to commit multiple felonies? I guess so if you have a fawning press.
Yes I do blame 9-11 on Clinton. His all talk and no backup. His lameness and unwillingness to stand for anything, plus spending all his time and efforts covering for his "blowjob".
What a sick narcissist that bastard is.
demliars 4 years ago
And according to demliars, 9-11 should be blamed on President Clinton. What a coward.
RobotStarDesign 4 years ago
RobotStarDesign 4 years ago
demliars your comment lacks one thing--NUMBERS! By the way Clinton should never have been in court because who he has sex with isn't our business. I rather have a president that gets laid than one that ruins our economy.
RobotStarDesign 4 years ago
To answer the question, because Scooter Libby didn't commit a crime. If this is the best a liberal prosecutor can do in this environoment of lies and bullshit, Fitz-nifong should be investigated.
demliars 4 years ago
LOL, Clinton?
-First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
-Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
demliars 4 years ago
Hpw dare you bring up that scumbag in mixed company.
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
AND DAMN IT WHO HIRED CRAIG LIVINGSTONE!
demliars 4 years ago
And finally , demliars is no doubt avoiding truth and reality because it has a "liberal bias".
So, for any rabid Right winger ready to call anybody with a different take on Bush's bungling as "defeatists" here's the challenge:
Next time you claim surrender or coward, show us all your Tour of Duty papers for Iraq, complete with future return orders.
Otherwise, Malkin, Hannity, Beck, Kristol, Wolfowitz, Hamm, and the rest of the rabid right are just plain old fashioned cowards and hypocrates.
MKB2814 4 years ago
I don't have to show you shit surrender monkey but if only those in Iraq can vote on the matter why does the surrender monkey party suppress their votes every chance they get? That's hypocracy.
"Bring the troops home" Why? Armies are for killing people and breaking things, let them do their job.
demliars 4 years ago
That's right the Iraqis did get to vote. Mission Accomplished.
Show your convictions, join up. Or re-up to prove it.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Even if all you Bush bashers are right, we don't need a leftist political opportunists working covert, there's enough of them here already. They're called the state department.
demliars 4 years ago
Haw that's funny.
I suppose an argument could be made that bin Laden doesn't have to destroy America. Bush and his handlers will do it for them.
They already know how to weaken a military and destroy intelligence programs.
MKB2814 4 years ago
No the Bush bashers will. Bush stands up to terrorists, leftists do. Everything your surrender monkey leaders say is BROADCASTED to muslims who hate us. Congratulations.
But, that puts you on the wrong side of AMERICANS so please let us know who you are by displaying white flag, gay flag, or whatever. But be sure and let the Americans know who the cowards are.
demliars 4 years ago
"Bush stands up to terrorists, leftists do. "
Well, thanks for finally clarifying that even "leftists" will sstand up to terrorists.
Six years after 9/11, regular assurances that "Al Qaeda's on the run", although repirts by people in the actual know say different. Did you happen to know all this "al Qaeda in Iraq" business is actually Sunni based?
Saudi arabia is a Sunni Muslim country, and they send over MANY willing paticipants to al Qaeda "in Iraq".
MKB2814 4 years ago
That's also the same Saudi Arabia where Bush kisses their rulers.
Meanwhile, the safe haven, the borders of Pakistan and Afghanistan, are as safe as ever under Bush's oversight.
You remember them? They're the ones that actually attacked this country, and stil remain as strong as ever.
Please, also remind us how Pakistan,a tenuous dictatorship, is also a nuclear power. Then also remind people how the father of Pakistan's nuclear power remains a national hero!
MKB2814 4 years ago
MUSLIMS attacked this country, and Germany and Britain and Spain and France... MUSLIMS.
So should we invade Pakistan? Should we invade Saudia Arabia? Why this straw man argument when your ilk are just a bunch of pansies who don't want the U.S. to prevail.
demliars 4 years ago
Sunni Muslims attacked this country from nations like Saudi Arabia and Dubai. These nations are also providing Sunni recruits to the Sunni run "Al Qaeda in Iraq".
After 9/11, Dubai banks even refused to seize financial assets of known terrorists. Should we invade those countries? No. Yet where is the urging them for cooperation?
MKB2814 4 years ago
The GOP has more straw men than all the cornfields of Iowa, Kansas, and Nebraska combined.
They're foaming at the mouth over a big fence around Mexico, but Bush has failed to secure the borders of Iraq or Afghanistan. To answer your question about attacking the Saudis or Pakistan, no. However, their borders are exceptionally porous.
MKB2814 4 years ago
I misspoke, leftists don't. We are at war with radical muslim. Borders don't matter, and you and your kind don't matter. You'll make up and regurgitate any lie your surrender monkey leaders mouth to you.
demliars 4 years ago
To reiterate, Borders do matter.
Especially considering that Iraq's borders with Saudi Arabia, as well as Iran, are not secured. Same about that pourous border between Pakistan and Afgahnistan.
Six years later, and that remains an afterthought in the Bush Administration.
MKB2814 4 years ago
@demliars Truly clueless.
ahachie 6 months ago
you sound like a guy I know. Phil Newsome.
skill13815 4 years ago
the uh... theee.... uh...
realestMC 4 years ago
Yeah dissident and protection of civil liberties is quite treasonous.
PunkRocker177 4 years ago
Former CIA operative Valerie Plame lost a lawsuit on Thursday that DEMANDED MONEY from Bush administration officials that she blamed for leaking her CIA identity. The case against all defendants: Cheney, White House political adviser Karl Rove, former White House aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage was dismissed.
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
Should have been. She should be investigated for denying recommending the "ambassador" under oath to a senate committee. Seems this "agent" thinks she's all that and a bag of chips. She's a democrat political whore with a taxpayer charge card.
demliars 4 years ago
Yeah, I can't understand how someone would have the gall to be mad after having the sitting administration ruin their career and then lie to cover it up; definite case of whoring for political gain. NOT! You need to step back and get some perspective!
zephyrus001 4 years ago
How did the administration ruin her career? She was so devastated she appeared on magazine covers and she and her husband can peddle thier lies, evidenlty without recourse, for millions. Cry me a river.
demliars 4 years ago
That was after someone in the Bush Administration outed her as a covert agent.
After all, she was only a link in a chain of intelligence programs that was involved in tracking the international flow of nuclear materials.
But hey, Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Scooter made her a star and the only thing the Administration had to do was compromise national security.
MKB2814 4 years ago
Hmm, how many times do you need to be told she wasn't covert and hadn't been?
If yuo have super secret knowledge of her super secret position, HOW DO YOU KNOW!
The fact a supposed undercover agent donates thousands
to democrats frankly scares the hell out of me. She was either stupid or a committed socialist.
demliars 4 years ago
Valerie Plame WAS a covert agent.
Scooter Libby LIED to a grand jury UNDER OATH regarding who compromised a national security leak..
The FACT that Republicans like Libby will lie about matters like a national security program is a reflection of how Bush and the rest of his incompetent lackeys THINK they are above the law iis in FACT a CONTEMPT for the Ameican people they are supposed to SERVE!
MKB2814 4 years ago
No one including scooter was charged with outing her. Why? Because YOU CAN'T OUT SOMEONE WHO'S NOT UNDERCOVER.
You try remembering details of 3 years old conversations about nothing special while being grilled numerous times.
demliars 4 years ago
"No one including scooter was charged with outing her. "
No, Irving "Scooter" Libby was only involved in lying about who did and obstructing an honest investigation of the matter.
I would think that anybody that high up in the chain would want to know the very real details of nuclear material traffic flow and keep covert agents covert.
MKB2814 4 years ago
As a covert agent, Valerie Plame did not have any diplomatic immunity or protection if she was caught while doing her vital national intelligence work. To repeat, this was work involving the international flow of nuclear material. You know, things like stopping the flow of WMDs into the hands of terrorists.
Intelligence operatives also don't work in a vacuum, perhaps one day we'll find out how many other operatives working for the US were compromised.
MKB2814 4 years ago
So now, ask this.
When someone in the Bush Administration leaks a covert agent's name and officials high up the command chain lie about the issue, how is that anything but a failure of an administration to even protect the very programs that are vital to national security?
If Clinton did this exact thing, I'm sure you'd be foaming and fitting.
MKB2814 4 years ago
OH MY GOD! Valerie Plame had Non Official Cover or NOC pronounced 'knock', which means she was undercover but not working in a seemingly benign governmental job. She was working for a dummie corporation as a cover. It is a deeper form of cover than Official Cover. She WAS undercover, the administration DID out her. Check your DAMN facts!
zephyrus001 4 years ago
Oh, kind of like double secret probation huh? Whatever. She should be investigated for perjury.
Know that the war in Iraq is turning better maybe some repuke will grow a set of nuts and demand the same standards repubs are held to.
demliars 4 years ago
@demliars Give it a rest, you are only further embarrassing yourself.
ahachie 6 months ago
That's not arguing the point -- You're covering for the administration by making glib assertions. It's spin when you try to make someone who was the victim seem like a selfish liar when it was the administration that caused the whole affair. Don't blame politics for being politics when it doesn't work for you.
zephyrus001 4 years ago
she didn't lose the case, the court found that it did not have jurisdiction to hear the case, though the judge did note that there appeared to be improper activity in the Oval Office.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
Yeah, and it's a shame she lost since her entire career was ruined just because the administration had its ego bruised. I'd DEMAND some MONEY too if it was me.
zephyrus001 4 years ago
Yes, someone is definitely telling them not to say crime.
NIN1385 4 years ago
Well done, LV! Wonderful work. Thank you.
barb99999 4 years ago
Libby was convicted of not remembering details about an ersatz three year old conversation with Russert in a court whose jury pool is 8to1 democrat.
sagsarvestani 4 years ago
No, he was convicted of intentinally misleading the investigator (obstruction of justice) and lying under oath (perjury). The judge, a Repbulican, stated that the evidence against Scooter was "overwhleming."
Secularprophet 4 years ago
I've listened to this a lot, and to the comments made and I've changed my mind. While Fox is clearly the most managed source of inforation on the air, in this case I think that the reporter stumbled when she said "severity." She should have said "serious nature" or some such phrase. It is the serious nature of what was being investigated that makes Libby's obstruction of that investigation warrent his sentence.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
It was the serious nature of his crime, that of lying to a grand jury, that warranted his sentence.
Our justice system breaks down if anyone can lie to a grand jury any time they like, and is never punished for it.
Urgelt 4 years ago
I agree with what you are saying. I'm just noting that the reporter may well have intended to refer to the serious nature of the investigation that Mr. Libby obstruted. Of course her slip on the word "trial" is another matter.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
Almost certainly, Fox has issued an editorial mandate to avoid the word "crime" in connection to Scooter Libby's conviction.
You know, the airwaves are owned by the public, and a self-described "news" channel should be held accountable to a reasonable standard of serving public interest, not special interests. I think the FCC should be expected to discipline broadcasters using public airwaves who irresponsibly execute their public trust.
Urgelt 4 years ago
"You know, the airwaves are owned by the public, and a self-described "news" channel should be held accountable to a reasonable standard of serving public interest, not special interests. I think the FCC should be expected to discipline broadcasters using public airwaves who irresponsibly execute their public trust."
Urgelt do you think yourself and LV should at some point be held to that same standard with your youtube videos?
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
No, I don't, because I'm not squatting on publicly-owned radio air spectrum, as broadcasters are.
Cable TV and the internet are entirely conducted over private, not public, wires.
That's not to say that standards on cable and the internet are not admirable. I just don't consider them enforceable by governments.
Urgelt 4 years ago
"I just don't consider them enforceable by governments." How about selectively enforced?
FairMindedCitizen 4 years ago
Federal law *requires* regulation of publicly owned airwaves to ensure that they serve the public interest. That spectrum is public property. Spectrum users are allowed to make a profit off of it in exchange for meeting public needs.
Why, exactly, would you want the government's regulatory responsibility expanded to cover cable and the internet? No public spectrum is involved, and there's no law in the US granting government such a role.
Urgelt 4 years ago
It is not beyond the reach of government to define internet bandwidth "public" and to pass such legislation. That would be consistent with historic Interstate Commerce Clause interpretations. So, it could be done. My view is that any such control (including goverenmnt content control over broadcaset media) is a bad thing. The consumer must become more sophisticated and alternate voices unsuppressed.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
A light regulatory hand is what is usually needed over public spectrum.
But no regulatory hand for broadcasting is not acceptable to me, because CBS and NBC and Fox and ABC do not own the airwaves they are using. I do, and my fellow citizens. It's a public trust, and it comes with strings.
The government *could* poke its nose into the tent and regulate, say, internet content, or telephone conversations, or what we say at a barbecue with friends. I'd prefer not to see that happen.
Urgelt 4 years ago
Your position is consistent with the historic treatment of this topic. I'm taking the more libertarian position that any government interferance with the flow of information is a bad thing. My rationale is "Type I - Type II error analysis" The potential abuses of an unregulated information distribution system are less dangerous than the abuses of a regulated information distribution system. 1984 is still relevant literature.
Secularprophet 4 years ago
I'm sympathetic to your view - until it's applied to a broadcaster who squats on airwaves you and I own, and then uses that resource to advantage a particular political party.
There isn't very much public spectrum available, you know. Anyone can't just jump in and start broadcasting. By its nature, it has to be regulated - otherwise a multitude of signals would simply jam each other out of existence.
Urgelt 4 years ago
If you limit your arguement to assignment of frequencies and broadcast wattage limits, of course I agree. But if you expand your argument to include content our opinions diverge. There was a time when access to broadcast spectrum equated to market-share of information flow, but now the broadcast spectrum is growing increasingly trivial. Do you get your TV signal from an antenae? Do you know anyone who does?
Secularprophet 4 years ago
If Barack Obama had been convicted of this "investigation of which he is being charged with obstructing", FoxNews would not mince words: he'd be called a criminal and his photo would be plastered on the screen everytime they mentioned his crime. Just goes to show that Fox takes care of their own.
sennapods 4 years ago