Esoteric vs. Sage Francis

[BoxingMagick]

I'm always going to be pro sage, but i think esoteric might of had the win. It seems to me like the crowd was pro sage.

[damaged702401]

did esoteric call him a nigga at 22 seconds?

[nrocinuauqa]

He spits it out sooo quick it is hard to keep track of.. I tried this with some of the boys I know just fun taking turns (not so much attacking one another more bragging about our skill) I lasted 2 small rounds (only like 30 to 50 seconds max) about a group of 5 of us me and 4 boys and then I ran out it was like my brain stopped working.They were jumping in with words for me to keep me in. It was so much fun and they nagged me for like 2 minutes to get back up. It is so much fun to watch. : )

[dnon75]

my favorite battle ever

[Name90857]

I love this video. I hate Grind Time Now.

[TheNeonSquirrel]

i like how sage stopped fucking with him when he realized he was choking

[mastakushin16]

eso's first round was chuuuuuuch

[DroppinKnowledge69]

who won this tourney?

[itchin4scratches]

@DroppinKnowledge69 eso got the boot like italy lol

[demonkiller281]

eso brought out that adrenaline flow at the end

[supperskillz]

Sage kinda looks like eyedea?

[SCAenterprises]

WTF?! Am I really the only one that noticed esoteric spitting the same shit on his second turn? Damn nobody listens close enough, do they?

[TheJerosler]

@SCAenterprises

i like esoteric, but he does go on tangents where everything is 'esoteradactyl-shrapnel-babble­'. plus he uses the word crab too much.

[SCAenterprises]

@TheJerosler cool...but esoteric repeated the exact same line twice



[TheJerosler]

@SCAenterprises

Obviously. That was part of what I was implying (just look at Sage's expression when Eso repeats himself). Those are Eso's fall-back words. It would be nice not to hear them in every track or battle.

[TheAARON669]

i dident even know that was Sage Francis because he was so skinny

[iHaveEyedeas]

@therealsagefrancis haha nah that was another man by the name of Xaul Zan ( ;

[OM3N1R]

Damn I miss the days when sage was a battle queen.

[Israeli3030]

and people think eminem is the first guy to dis himself in a battle to leave his opponent materialess. pshh. that faggot was taking notes watching sage.

[holywoodundead]

@Israeli3030 dude im a big fan of sage but if your going to insult someone do it correctly the earliest sage francis you can find is 1996 you can find eminem's shit years before that.

[Israeli3030]

@holywoodundead Your username discredits any opinion you project in this community.

[holywoodundead]

@holywoodundead bahahah this is from when i was like 12 why the fuck would i waste my time making a new one?

[ZebreI10I]

@Israeli3030 eminem is one of the greats ever and never pretended to be the first who dissed himself

so i don't find any reason to call him a faggot

[Ston3d42O]

@ZebreI10I  I disagree, eminem was overrated. Eyedea had more talent

[EncypherMC]

SO FUNNY! awesome!

[RuinsOfConscience]

"pulled out... legs and who should come out but some RnB singers"

Anyone catch the rest of the quote?

[paydn202]

@RuinsOfConscience pulled out three football rings and used up polish from r&b singers...thats what i got from it haha

[dben93]

you dont wanna chew me up ill cause cancer in your jaw!

[drop225]

Sage Francis is a well educated rapper. Not everyone likes his style, but it is not meant for everyone. If you like it good and if you don't then don't listen to it. Personal Journals -sick album. Much love and Respect to Underground

[TheKillerbeeyo]

Round 1: Eso edges Sage out no question

Round 2: Sage snatches it with the best verse of the night

OT: Sage takes it with a mean opener

Great battle either way.

[ivorysin1988x702]

Sage francis won for sure

[zelda69]

I said CHILL mofucka! LMFAO!

[zelda69]

These guys are both pretty good, but Sage has got Esoteric beat.

[erikachenbach]

I can't believe neither one of these dudes have any mic control... Just put it in your mouth, people might hear you better...

[erikachenbach]

I can't believe either one of these dudes have any mic control... Why don't you just put it completely in your mouth, people might hear you better.Ahh, and they're supposed to be professionals?

[elmaazaw]

LONG LIVE HIPHOP ... MISS THE 90S THUMBS UP...

[trainofaaron]

yo esoteric shrug sage again and u gonna lose that arm

[1000rtodd]

sage francis =nerd rap

[TheDoctorWho17]

@1000rtodd Not in the least.

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 says the nerd

[TheDoctorWho17]

@1000rtodd Right. Well, you're a fucking moron, and probably 12. I fail to see how me being a nerd makes Sage Francis nerd rap. And I really fail to see how you could call Sage Francis nerd rap, you must be fucking retarded.

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 calm down there, sport.haha.You have skin as thick as a paper bag. I'm not 12, actually im in my early 20's. Ive been listening to hiphop for more than half my life. Been to more hip hop shows than you could count to. ive seen everybody from co-flow to outkast. jedi mind to nonphixion. I love rap. Sage francis is for white suburban backpack rap geeks.how do i know this? becasue Ive seen countless examples of his fan base..I just think he's corny..that's all. it's just my opinion.

[TheDoctorWho17]

@1000rtodd Thank for you listing your life story which I frankly don't give a fuck about, it has nothing to do with our conversation. And again, you're still wrong. You've failed to provide any real evidence to backup your claims. Sage Francis in no way equals nerd rap his style and content prove otherwise, and saying he is just because a few members of his fanbase are then I guess Dre and Tupac are the same. Now run along and listen to your Gucci Mane CD.

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 proof? proof? bhahahahaha. you fucking geek. and what poof have u given for your argument? NADA.. besides. this is abou tmere opinion. also, it would take u a fucking year to read my life story..but heres the deal...you re just a utube nerd hiphopper. youve prolly never been to a real hiphop show..and my own experences alone would school you on anything you think u know aboute and if werent for utbe u wouldnt even know about artists lik gayge francis let alone real hiphop artists

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 I first heard sage in 2001 when he realeased his sobg about september 11th back when u were still breatst feeding (not like youve stopped) and the first thing I thought was,"nerd rap" youre just a fucking rerun to me u homo. hahaha. and btw, not a few people of his fan base are "nerds" they are ALL nerds. I was at warped tour one year, and u should have seen all the fags chanting his lyrics..all I could do was laugh

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 "One green cup of tea and me stuck all by myself once its empty

Then I'm off to bed with plenty of caffiene to keep me up and thinking

The cup I'm drinking from is never cleanI can't remember if it's a dream once I awake and I walk.From my messy bed and anticipate the next late night talk"those are the fucking dorkiest lyrics I have ever heard!! hahahahahaaha.

[1000rtodd]

@TheDoctorWho17 and the very fact u said to go listen to gucci mane after I listed some of the artists I listened to or saw shows what little u know about hip hop and what such a faggot u are.. and btw. I woulf listen to gucci mane over sage any day. thats how bad sae is. u think listening to sage francais makes u in "the know' type crowd but really it make u in the "the nerd" type crowd. so go have fun listening to your wannabe intellectual white suburban kid quassi hiphop.....fucking nerd. lol

[slapthecheeta]

@1000rtodd "in the nerd"? get that from Nickelodeon or something?

[1000rtodd]

@slapthecheeta you fail....no reply needed.

[slapthecheeta]

@1000rtodd uh oh, a 12 year old told me i fail:( and you called sage a nerd? jesus man, the only kid i know who still says gay shit like "you fail" is my 10 year old cousin whose stoked on yugioh and anime.

[1000rtodd]

@slapthecheeta still trying...but still failing. Maybe you are drknow. I have he odd suspicion you are..bahahaha. you fuckiNg faggot! p.s. nickleodean (or however you spell it, u know how, u at least watch it) is for sage fans.... Ill stick to HBO.

[slapthecheeta]

@1000rtodd ha alright man, calm the fuck down. your so god damn annoying il shut up just so you quit commenting on what most of us consider a sick video.

[1000rtodd]

@slapthecheeta oh, i like this video. I dont mind esoteric..hes alright..and btw..the only one who needs to come down is you. by the sound of your last comment i bet you were smashing your nerd room to bits. Did you finally see the light and tear up that gayge francis poster that you drew a heart on? oh well, well at least you still have that life size cut out of the jonas brothers. bahahahaha

[lyricalgod100]

both these guys are fresh, but Sage served Eso on that bonus round at the end

[DrummingLegend123]

im so proud that esotoric used to live a town away from me

[S1W2E3D]

LMAO I FUCKING LOVE THIS aahahahaaaaahhhHHHHHHH

[pureaggression]

his second verse is pretty beast, his presence is just dominance, lmao, poor eso

[stillspeakin]

This is how battles should be. All about the fun. Big ups to both you cats for keeping it light and not taking it so serious. I watch so many battles on youtube that lack creativity and style, they are so caught up in being serious or "hard". Not to mention, most battles aren't entertaining at all. After all, that is the business, isn't it? Entertainment? Well you guys are masters of your craft, both entertainment and hip hop! Respect! I'm a fan of both eso and strange...

[masterchasekid]

@stillspeakin Yur right cuz when you try to be hard n serious, you end up chokin and messin up

[lewisdefrates]

@codyachter you seriously think Sage is loaded?

[straydoglogic]

Two of my favorite hip hop artists of all time. Love it!

[SpikeyJamez]

@JimBrownski, JimBrownski= The Bully Of Hip Hop.

Get off the sadistic anti-intellectual persona and ideology and let the nerds kick your bully ass bitch.

[JimBrownski]

@SpikeyJamez Shut up geek. Go listen to you Anticon CD and go fuck yourself

[SpikeyJamez]

@JimBrownski, wow that is deeply utterly sad that your last post is from 3 years ago and you haven't mature nor changed a bit. You should try to change yourself a bit, trust me is good for you, go to school, or maybe try to go to the army, business, or any life changing career experience, so that way you might learn something from life.

[SymmetricalSymmetry]

"Your beard is bitch type you better get some more insight, before I put my fuckin elbow in your windpipe!" Damnnn

[Chronicspitta]

You don't wanna chew me up I'll cause cancer in ya jaw.

[Antigoats1993]

Eso is good but Sage is on some other lyrical shit that eso will never understand

[cry12344]

why are dudes hating? its not like they had beef. this battle and the brother ali vs eyedea battle are my favorite battles. esoteric is a beast and so is sage.

[MrWhysoserious88]

how old is this?

[Antigoats1993]

@MrWhysoserious88 37 i think

[niKEnINjA777]

im a HUGE esoteric fan .

nd i love JMT nd AOTP .

but i cant front sage killed eso .

esoteric flows better though .

sage . munbles more then he should though .

ahahah

[toolarge2000]

@all you unintelligents ..Sage took this one and I think ESO would tell you that himself...having said that Esoteric actually has a music career.1212, Go get it and youll see how creative Eso is..ATOP 4 Life

[TheVulture911]

sage killed eso

[lenoe234]

@groalerable YOU GARBAGE BITCHMADE.

you sound ignorant as fuck.

[OM3N1R]

Esoteric said "suck a duck" twice hahah. That should be grounds for removal, like excavation.

[TheRosenberg16]

sage sucks dick, eso ripped him in the first verse

[Antigoats1993]

@TheRosenberg16 i cant believe what im reading...you must be a 14 yr old aotp fanboy who is just getting introduced to underground hip hop sage killed eso. eso said the same shit over and over that just goes to show how creative he is!!!

[zapps221]

sage KILLED him. his intellectual skills destroy people. he is so quick witted. i quesiton how he gained so much weight though lol.

[hungjudas77]

sage etas the mic, not meaning he killed it, but sayin the dude don't know how to hold it, and it brings he points down for me, eso is more straight to the point and clear.

[tesavage91]

first round went to eso, but the next two were sage all the way.

[wakeem93]

even though its kinda clear sage won, but i think eso was off the top

[d0zi7]

Damn their both ill

[aeolismensae]

bananas man, bananas.

[SymmetricalSymmetry]

E$soteric realizes he definetly lost at 7:14

[kmklover]

Esoteric looked like he was about to deck Sage at :21 when he bumped into him lol

[BlackiDaIraqi1]

Sage wrote that shit u can tell lol

[xdxdxdlloll]

maybe sage won but I feel like esoteric wasn't 10% of what he actually is

[Antigoats1993]

and he says his own name like 20 times wtf esotric is a bitch!

[cry12344]

@Antigoats1993 This cat is far from overrated. This dude is a mothafuckin boss, and so is sage.

[Antigoats1993]

i hate esoteric he overrates himself wtf?

[The666kombat]

none of my homies like sage they say he a fruit cup.. i tell em yea hes a werido but watch his rap battles he kills everybody in rap battles

[colliningraham]

SAGE KILLS!!!!!!!!

[alecrubin69]

sage only had a nice ending verse. esoteric should have won

[PrizePirate]

I think they both pre-write

[brnsktingdieskting18]

BEST BATTLE I'VE SEEN IN YEARS!!!

[pronedaddy]

"Your about as Hip Hop as Marlyn Manson, for real your better off battling Hanson" hahahahahahahahahaha funniest line in the vid!!!!

[CodyAchter]

how did sage gain so much weight

[kpmatz]

@CodyAchter Dude, I was wondering the same exact thing.

[TobyLee87]

@CodyAchter Typical Weight comes with Riches syndrome.. He got richer, could afford to buy more food than he needs, puts on lots of weight.

So many rappers are guilty of this. Necro and Ill Bill are good examples... And sage.

[ThatGOONfromLA]

@CodyAchter Most likely the same way most people on the planet do. being a good rapper doesn't make you immune to weight gain.

[Philosophist0]

@CodyAchter right...considering he is a vegan......

[VisheSuznanie]

@CodyAchter

He stopped the crack and meth and started cocaine.

[IronViking99]

@CodyAchter He got old. When you get old you tend to get fat. Sad fact of life :/

[conciousness88]

@CodyAchter 10 + years

[Ohno4NO]

@CodyAchter Bad diet and antidepressants/medication? 

[ZillahManiac]

Don't wanna chew me up, I cause cancer in your jaw.

These are wonderful fucking MC's, but Sage won.

[TheJerosler]

"Just because your body's so big, doesn't mean your brain is/ think about the dinosaurs..."

[ABICUSMC]

i like Eso's joints more but Sage took that

[nropthefriendlycow]

but on the other hand. esoteric as in bliss n esoteric, would drop this guy.

[finowa]

WHEN ESOTERIC'S ON THE MIC I DON'T HAVE TO REHEARSE, THIS KID'S TALKIN ABOUT KITTEN R.. KICKIN RICKEN RAPS.. WRITTEN RAPS.. dope.

[kingdonggyp]

is that esoteric that raps with jedi mind?

[WuKillaRi]

@kingdonggyp thats him

[jaidingo]

GO ESO! ABSOLUTELY SMASHED IT!

Great footage thanks heaps for posting

[gottatry42morrow]

Hands down, Sage wins. There is quite a difference between those who spit out rhymes for the sake of rhyming and "bashing" (in rap battles), and actually providing content of substance. Yes, he might be slightly scrawny and awkward in this particular video, but Sage owns. Sage was not only witty, but had good rhythm (yes, going with the actual bpm is important and accounts for at least 20% of the overall rap score), and SAID SOMETHING that MEANT SOMETHING.

[rice2099]

this was sage early battles so they prob. thought he wrote it

[SICKXPIN742]

eso was spitting mad pre-meds. thats why sage kept getting up on him dancing and doing all that bull shit like MAKING him. freestyle.. but obviously. eso relied on his pre written pre meds. sage came hard. as fuck

[KidZiLLah]

That second round? Sage fucking ass raped this guy. I'm talking about bitch this is my property raped.

[jcfelony13]

@KidZiLLah what ya mean ..THIS GUY..Esoteric a fuckin beast and deserves mad respect in the game..check the dudes catalogue before throwin insults like that.

[KidZiLLah]

@jcfelony13

It was a joke, calm down. I know about Eso, he's sick.

Sage won this, arguably in my eyes.

[jcfelony13]

@jcfelony13 k my bad then just didnt seem like a joke,ye to me eso had the 1st rnd but then sage came hard from the 2nd..

[brettcravener]

Sage's first round was elementary.

[pastanoose978]

both these kids insane +++++++++++1! Great vid too, peace to Swice

[pastanoose978]

@pastanoose978 PS: a shame Sage wasted his career on whatever the hell he is doing with his music. I am so confused who likes this recent stuff....

[jaspertinker]

Sage is fucked Esoteric Won

[lifecoach614]

Sage Francis is a weird wimp...lol

[SpikeyJamez]

Damn this is classic Hip Hop, man I miss those days.

[pronedaddy]

Sage sooo dope on this track. Im an eso fan but this was wicked. An Strange Famous soo skinny and clean no homo! haha

[LEMON8ICE]

Sage's 2nd round was FIYA

[Tyranan]

esoteric pwned him on the first spit.

[flyingpowerlogitech]

I must admit Sage won this battle, but in general Eso is waaaay better.

[tenjouahs]

They're both good but jesus, neither one has any flow, they just fucking ramble lines straight without paying attention to the beat at all.

[crudomundo]

@tenjouahs you're right about one thing battles are just punch line.

[thalis19]

sage rips

[blazeitify]

best fucking battle both of them rape the fucking mic................

[AgoSanti93]

this is the line where sage francis won "didnt anyone ever tell you sage francis was raw? you dont want to chew me up ill cause cancer in your jaw" damn he sodomized that mic lol

[toursmoke35]

holy shit sage is insane

[lemaitrethemonk]

Give these guys instruments and really have a battle. I'm just saying... All i hear is roar, raw, raw. What happened to real music? And as for Esoteric, there is nothing hidden about him or his name...

[SpikeyJamez]

@lemaitrethemonk, What kind of bullshit statement is that?

They been okay on the mic, but it wasn't terrible at all, If you put Lil Wayne V.S. Soulja Boy then you would automatically reconsider.

Am just saying they are pretty okay MC's compare to most rapper we hear on the radio station.

Either way, its not a big deal just enjoy the good music.

[tommyogtigern]

sage

[matics19]

Sage is fuckin hilarious when the other dude's rapping. And then esoteric tries to play it off like Sage was and just looks stupid.

[stonedkilla000]

sage francis for the winnn hahaha

[Prikaatinkenraali]

Sage did rape Eso now, but in general I think Esoteric is way better rapper, his AOTP shit is indeed friggin' insane, his vocabulary is huge.

[kvnnn11]

@Prikaatinkenraali you should listen best of times

[Chainsaw0abortion666]

on an unrelated note: does anyone else agree that sage's material after personal journals kind of sucks. I mean don't get me wrong his mix tapes are sick and he's def one of my favorite artist but it just seems that after he started releasing studio albums he just kind of fell off. non prophets is still sick though

[Chainsaw0abortion666]

"what you didn't know sage Francis was raw?you don't chew me up I'll cause cancer in your jaw!!" best battle on YouTube. sage kills!!

[potatoelauncher69]

sage owns the stage

[RizeUpAgainstIt]

both those dudes r hilarious

[mutedmakequiet]

saaage kills!

i mean srsly? too many classic [punch]lines.

"think about the dinosaurs!"

"this is your last chance for, escape out of this technologically advanced war!"

"what, you didnt know sage francis was raw? you dont wanna chew me up, i cause cancer in your jaw!"

=rape!

[kpchawaii]

Sage won it in the 3rd round. With that "technologically advanced warfare" line. ha..

[n3va]

esoteric loves saying mental dominance i counted 3 times.

[Cypha1250]

Close call but I gotta give it to Sage. Yo check out UnderGroundAnthem. It's a mixture of flows.

[nativebrother]

How many times eso gotta say he's on the mic, lol.

[ShimIsRad]

Sage needs to not cup the mic.

[narcissists]

haha sage smoked his ass. everyone who battles sage acts so hard and he just smashes LOL peace

[yukmouth23jayrich23]

my favourite battle of all time

[cry12344]

go es

[Sagefrakrobatik]

Although im a fan of Sage its hard for me to hear his lines. I think Esoteric does a better job enuciating his words

[invectrum]

@Sagefrakrobatik yeah hes harder to hear, but if you listen closely to sage alot of his lines are sick with wordplay, overall more creative and more flow

[Aerodynamic1991]

These are real MC's, they don't get pissed off when one of em comes too close to the other or anything, they just laugh about it. As for who won I can't decide, cause both Sage and Eso are some of my favourite rappers. They both killed it.

[cwade12c]

Es was written and used the same rhyme / scheme throughout his bars.

How many times did he use the dominance and terridactle shrapnel line?

[123thefamily]

esoteric has way bettr rythm. sage is like, just word,at the end sage was aight but es is just better. like if u listen to his army of the pharaoh shit, he is insane

[invectrum]

@123thefamily yeah AOTP is dope but that has nothing to do with this battle, Eso's verses were relatively simplistic....straight forward. Sage is all over the place with crazy flow, and intensity.

[bnjmn07]

hahahhahah sage's last part was IIIINNNNSSSAANNE.

[RAWRimatigermeow]

sage tore him apart

[T0RK]

i thought they weren't aloud to touch eachother

[devilselbow]

Sage won this in the first 2