Yeah, America is falling and their is no safety net to catch them. Obama is running America in the ground. He has spent the tax payers money on stupid things. While America is fighting in Iraq, Afgan and Lybia hes out playing golf and taking vactions... And besides the whole point Obama has spent nearly 2 million dollars in Attorney fees to keep his birth certifact from the American Goverment and the American people. He has only showen a birth right which anyone can get from any country.
These people lambaste "socialism" and runaway government spending but they no doubt benefit from unemployment insurance, food stamps, mortgage interest deductions, etc. Where were these people when Bush was invading other countries on a credit card? Oh, that's defense...can't touch that!
U.S. citizens should fear the growing wealth disparity. It'll be a few haves, and many have nots. They won't need unskilled workers at all soon. It'll be real estate and factory (or other automated system) owners and everyone will have a place to live and something to eat on the owner's whims only. That's the ultimate capitalism...back to serfdom and slavery for the masses. The U.S. has a few defences to it (monopoly busting) that will likely disappear.
feel free to convince me by using actual provable facts like single payer system are more cost effective and get better results in turn reducing future cost in health care by having a healthier pop." dr. Aaron Carol on stand up with Pete Dominick . look up hm as well both very informative in their own right
paul krugaman is a Nobel prize winning economist, i know that is liberal hippie award to some but it does mean he knows his stuff.
he says" to have a workable system without the public option, you need to have effective regulation of the insurers. Given the realities of our money-dominated politics, you really have to worry whether that can be done — which is a reason to have a more or less automatic mechanism for disciplining the industry" so either a public option or more regulations
@Gamera49 Probably wouldn't be a big problem to spend a trillion to heal people if Bush hadn't spent a trillion to kill people and make his family and friends rich.
the system is broken and the people who are working in and are stuck in understand.premiums are going wages are stagnant. the number one reason people go bankrupt is major illness. major illness= loss of job=loss of insurance= never getting coverage again until of course you go on medicaid. but if are health care system works so well that privatizes police, fire and the armed forces
Well, the American system has those problems. Those problems are much worse in Europe where healthcare is rationed and bureaucracies decide your fate for you. Most citizens are forced to become double-insured etc. Europe also doesn't contribute much to medical innovation either comapred with the USA. America needs reform- it needs to strip away the insane restrictions on buying interstate insurance and the policy of tying insurance to your job through tax incentives
you are misinformed there has been little advancement from the u.s. in stem cell research due to laws against use of embryos, foreign medical research and drug makers are making just as many contributions to medicine. and even with supplemental insurance plans people do not know what kind of coverage they truly have until it hits the fan. and even with aflac and the like people are getting screwed.
Okay...so for all of you people that don't agree with the Obama Health Care plan...what's your idea? I think it's interesting when people disagree with the government...but when you ask them what their idea is...they don't have an answer. And to the lady in green...who shouted that the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves...you're right...you are a woman who was allowed to speak your mind...that was never their intention either. So don't think they were angels...grow up.
My idea is to leave it private the government can't run the post office. obama has said on three different occasions he wants a single payer system and he has said on others thats not what he wants well if he can't even decide on that do you want to give him that power? You may be a lib but do you truly believe in the gov you have currently to pass it and not neglect it? Is that not giving a few that kind of power give an inch and they take a mile ever heard that?
premuims are going up unchecked without a public option. people who have federally funded/state funded programs are worried they will lose it. why? because they are good policies. hmo's that take control of medicare/medicaid fucking suck and are a bitch to deal with. i have to deal with them daily. a phone rep who last week was working for Verizon is telling medical professionals that the services are not covered or needed.
it's in the numbers. as it exists the health care system is not sustainable. has no one ever purchased group tix vs single ticket price. has anyone been to a sam's club or bj's for bulk goods. the more people in a group the lower the rate because cost are spread. so 350,000,000 in one group= lowest cost. and a healthier pop. which lowers cost exponentially in years to come. eliminate income tax and tax all the same flat rate for health ins. then no feels they are paying for others ins.like now
dear morons who think a single payer system would bankrupt the budget. John Rowe ceo for atena health $54.5 million compensation 2005 Mcgee ceo united healthcare $124.5 million compensation 2005 . that's a lot of band aides nurses and insulin. they are the "bureaucrats" between you and your md. thats alot of co pays
I am heading to Washington DC on September 11- 14 For us all americans Not for LEFT not for RIGHT For are COUNTRY of FREEDOM..I CARE I CARE FOR US ALL ... NO Left right sheet THE PEOPLE MATTERS TO ME!!! FIGHT FOR US ALL!!
America is the laughing stock of the world. It amazes me that there are such ignorant people in the US that get this worked up over a program that actually helps it's own citizenry. All because some talking head (paid by the pharmaceutical industry) said that it was "socialism" and would "kill old people". 90% of these screaming wackos couldn't give you the definition of what "socialism" even is. I've never seen a country of people pay so much in taxes and want to see anything in return.
Time to blow out congress. Period. If we the people want change and persons who will represent the people, we need to replace the people that are in there, "we" keep voting the same ruthless idiots in and expect a different result, I mean come on people, we need to wake up and blow those guys out of there and term limits. This is crucial if we are ever going to have a chance for this country to recover from the damage they have done.
There is a good chance Arlen Specter does NOT work for this idiot. Sign in sheets are proving the majority of the people at these meetings are not from the areas that voted the particular lawmakers into office. Another fraud being perpetuated on the American people by corporations with deep pockets.
You think these people were paid to be there by big corporations? Big corporations love the current administration, why would they pay people to heckle them? By the way, it doesn't matter where the people are from, if they are taxpaying US citizens, then the entire House and Senate is under their employ. Maybe you were paid by a corporation to make this post.
Is it smarter to rely on the government? Please wake up. People did rely on one another until the government decided to regulate malpractice and the courts allowed frivolous lawsuits, which in turn drove up doctors insurance premiums, driving up the price, and driving up our insurance premiums. It also forced not for profit hospitals that treated people without insurance to go under. Not for profit = charity... The government destroyed that, not the people.
By the way, I was in the Army for 6 years, and I know how bad government run health care is. I can tell you right now that if that is what we get as a country, no one will be happy and many sick people will not be treated correctly or in a timely manner.
that guy is either off his meds or took too many of them. I despise these uneducated loud mouths, these are the kinds of idiots that give americans a bad name...and Specter is no better.
That woman in the green shirt is a fraud. She says she never got involved in politics but she was reading froma well prepared script. And who the hell takes a video camera to a town hall except a reporter.
Stagzr454, you comment is illogical. A political novice would be very likely to have a prepared script. A person well versed in politics might not need one. You cannot fairly draw your conclusion from your observed detail. You reveal your own bias, and say little about hers. Unless, of course, you are a mind reader, in which case, you know what I think of your ability to think logically.
As a matter of fact DrBrown, I attended a :town hall" meeting with my local Congressman last Fall before anyone even knew what they were. No one brought a camera, and no one brought a pre-written script except our Mayor is is a memeber of the opposing party. Your user name reveals your own bias.
The good old days. I miss turning on the TV and watching the right-wing moonbats froth at the mouth.
Bienville25 2 months ago
Where is a goddamn corn cob with mashed potatoes when you need one? At least give the man some gravy for his hash browns!?
robotpanda77 5 months ago
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thumbs up if you think every single debate on youtube is pathetic.
LordKaisen 8 months ago
Yeah, America is falling and their is no safety net to catch them. Obama is running America in the ground. He has spent the tax payers money on stupid things. While America is fighting in Iraq, Afgan and Lybia hes out playing golf and taking vactions... And besides the whole point Obama has spent nearly 2 million dollars in Attorney fees to keep his birth certifact from the American Goverment and the American people. He has only showen a birth right which anyone can get from any country.
Mr517519 9 months ago
where is this? When did this happen? What happened that made these people so angry?
KripDrip 11 months ago
"the good of the people will take care of that", how naive is she?
5hower5horts 1 year ago
These people lambaste "socialism" and runaway government spending but they no doubt benefit from unemployment insurance, food stamps, mortgage interest deductions, etc. Where were these people when Bush was invading other countries on a credit card? Oh, that's defense...can't touch that!
kevinusma 1 year ago
U.S. citizens should fear the growing wealth disparity. It'll be a few haves, and many have nots. They won't need unskilled workers at all soon. It'll be real estate and factory (or other automated system) owners and everyone will have a place to live and something to eat on the owner's whims only. That's the ultimate capitalism...back to serfdom and slavery for the masses. The U.S. has a few defences to it (monopoly busting) that will likely disappear.
newguy33X 1 year ago
He doesn't work for you anymore, people of Pennsylvania! This evil, lying fool and puppet of murderers WAS DEFEATED!!!
billyguns2 1 year ago
You are a piece of shi/ you old sob you This is what we have in washington- shit/
kennethrobinson11231 1 year ago
I think Mr Spincter needs to go.......
teemcdeee 1 year ago
God bless that man....
drummerhustla087 2 years ago
feel free to convince me by using actual provable facts like single payer system are more cost effective and get better results in turn reducing future cost in health care by having a healthier pop." dr. Aaron Carol on stand up with Pete Dominick . look up hm as well both very informative in their own right
walkoff93 2 years ago
Harald zur Hausen Françoise Barré-Sinoussi Luc Montagnier
half 1/2 of the prize quarter 1/4 of the prize quarter 1/4 of the prize
Germany France France
German Cancer Research Centre
Heidelberg, Germany Regulation of Retroviral Infections Unit, Virology Department, Institut Pasteur
Paris, France World Foundation for AIDS Research and Prevention
Paris, France
b. 1936 b. 1947 b. 1932
this is who won last year , they're not pulling their wt
walkoff93 2 years ago
paul krugaman is a Nobel prize winning economist, i know that is liberal hippie award to some but it does mean he knows his stuff.
he says" to have a workable system without the public option, you need to have effective regulation of the insurers. Given the realities of our money-dominated politics, you really have to worry whether that can be done — which is a reason to have a more or less automatic mechanism for disciplining the industry" so either a public option or more regulations
walkoff93 2 years ago
I don't think Obama and the Democrates
could manage a burger King, with out going bankrupt, let alone a trillion dollar heath bill!
Gamera49 2 years ago 10
@Gamera49 Probably wouldn't be a big problem to spend a trillion to heal people if Bush hadn't spent a trillion to kill people and make his family and friends rich.
newguy33X 1 year ago
Hey wacko conservatives... isn't there something in the Bible that says something like always help eachother.....?
theslowevo 2 years ago
They want to help the country by not destroying their health system
Invirtuo 2 years ago
the system is broken and the people who are working in and are stuck in understand.premiums are going wages are stagnant. the number one reason people go bankrupt is major illness. major illness= loss of job=loss of insurance= never getting coverage again until of course you go on medicaid. but if are health care system works so well that privatizes police, fire and the armed forces
walkoff93 2 years ago
Well, the American system has those problems. Those problems are much worse in Europe where healthcare is rationed and bureaucracies decide your fate for you. Most citizens are forced to become double-insured etc. Europe also doesn't contribute much to medical innovation either comapred with the USA. America needs reform- it needs to strip away the insane restrictions on buying interstate insurance and the policy of tying insurance to your job through tax incentives
Invirtuo 2 years ago
you are misinformed there has been little advancement from the u.s. in stem cell research due to laws against use of embryos, foreign medical research and drug makers are making just as many contributions to medicine. and even with supplemental insurance plans people do not know what kind of coverage they truly have until it hits the fan. and even with aflac and the like people are getting screwed.
walkoff93 2 years ago
Well did I say I supported those laws? Why don't you try get those laws appealed?
Sure foreigners make contributions, but not on a proportionate scale to the USA
Invirtuo 2 years ago
Okay...so for all of you people that don't agree with the Obama Health Care plan...what's your idea? I think it's interesting when people disagree with the government...but when you ask them what their idea is...they don't have an answer. And to the lady in green...who shouted that the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves...you're right...you are a woman who was allowed to speak your mind...that was never their intention either. So don't think they were angels...grow up.
jcurrysan 2 years ago
My idea is to leave it private the government can't run the post office. obama has said on three different occasions he wants a single payer system and he has said on others thats not what he wants well if he can't even decide on that do you want to give him that power? You may be a lib but do you truly believe in the gov you have currently to pass it and not neglect it? Is that not giving a few that kind of power give an inch and they take a mile ever heard that?
moodybobby 2 years ago
the answer is so simple it doesn't require explanation. Let the free-market work
Invirtuo 2 years ago
premuims are going up unchecked without a public option. people who have federally funded/state funded programs are worried they will lose it. why? because they are good policies. hmo's that take control of medicare/medicaid fucking suck and are a bitch to deal with. i have to deal with them daily. a phone rep who last week was working for Verizon is telling medical professionals that the services are not covered or needed.
walkoff93 2 years ago
Rest assured: Democrats will weild power for an era. Example: this video.
rmsolympic1 2 years ago
exactly power is all its about not healthcare
moodybobby 2 years ago
it's in the numbers. as it exists the health care system is not sustainable. has no one ever purchased group tix vs single ticket price. has anyone been to a sam's club or bj's for bulk goods. the more people in a group the lower the rate because cost are spread. so 350,000,000 in one group= lowest cost. and a healthier pop. which lowers cost exponentially in years to come. eliminate income tax and tax all the same flat rate for health ins. then no feels they are paying for others ins.like now
walkoff93 2 years ago
Costs will inflate under government direction
Invirtuo 2 years ago
correction: William W McGuire, united health
walkoff93 2 years ago
dear morons who think a single payer system would bankrupt the budget. John Rowe ceo for atena health $54.5 million compensation 2005 Mcgee ceo united healthcare $124.5 million compensation 2005 . that's a lot of band aides nurses and insulin. they are the "bureaucrats" between you and your md. thats alot of co pays
walkoff93 2 years ago
I am heading to Washington DC on September 11- 14 For us all americans Not for LEFT not for RIGHT For are COUNTRY of FREEDOM..I CARE I CARE FOR US ALL ... NO Left right sheet THE PEOPLE MATTERS TO ME!!! FIGHT FOR US ALL!!
Xxoax 2 years ago
America is the laughing stock of the world. It amazes me that there are such ignorant people in the US that get this worked up over a program that actually helps it's own citizenry. All because some talking head (paid by the pharmaceutical industry) said that it was "socialism" and would "kill old people". 90% of these screaming wackos couldn't give you the definition of what "socialism" even is. I've never seen a country of people pay so much in taxes and want to see anything in return.
jacknuts22 2 years ago
Time to blow out congress. Period. If we the people want change and persons who will represent the people, we need to replace the people that are in there, "we" keep voting the same ruthless idiots in and expect a different result, I mean come on people, we need to wake up and blow those guys out of there and term limits. This is crucial if we are ever going to have a chance for this country to recover from the damage they have done.
elbarama 2 years ago
There is a good chance Arlen Specter does NOT work for this idiot. Sign in sheets are proving the majority of the people at these meetings are not from the areas that voted the particular lawmakers into office. Another fraud being perpetuated on the American people by corporations with deep pockets.
kingachybraky 2 years ago
You think these people were paid to be there by big corporations? Big corporations love the current administration, why would they pay people to heckle them? By the way, it doesn't matter where the people are from, if they are taxpaying US citizens, then the entire House and Senate is under their employ. Maybe you were paid by a corporation to make this post.
seanone23 2 years ago
ummm...on that lady's last comment. As heartless as it is, its completely foolish to rely on the people's "charity"
xdragoonx 2 years ago
Is it smarter to rely on the government? Please wake up. People did rely on one another until the government decided to regulate malpractice and the courts allowed frivolous lawsuits, which in turn drove up doctors insurance premiums, driving up the price, and driving up our insurance premiums. It also forced not for profit hospitals that treated people without insurance to go under. Not for profit = charity... The government destroyed that, not the people.
seanone23 2 years ago
By the way, I was in the Army for 6 years, and I know how bad government run health care is. I can tell you right now that if that is what we get as a country, no one will be happy and many sick people will not be treated correctly or in a timely manner.
seanone23 2 years ago
amen to mr. brown
bhenry13 2 years ago
that guy is either off his meds or took too many of them. I despise these uneducated loud mouths, these are the kinds of idiots that give americans a bad name...and Specter is no better.
smartincreative 2 years ago
Funny, until you mentioned Specter at the end, I thought you were talking about Specter...
seanone23 2 years ago
That woman in the green shirt is a fraud. She says she never got involved in politics but she was reading froma well prepared script. And who the hell takes a video camera to a town hall except a reporter.
Stagzr454 2 years ago
Stagzr454, you comment is illogical. A political novice would be very likely to have a prepared script. A person well versed in politics might not need one. You cannot fairly draw your conclusion from your observed detail. You reveal your own bias, and say little about hers. Unless, of course, you are a mind reader, in which case, you know what I think of your ability to think logically.
DrEthanBrown 2 years ago
As a matter of fact DrBrown, I attended a :town hall" meeting with my local Congressman last Fall before anyone even knew what they were. No one brought a camera, and no one brought a pre-written script except our Mayor is is a memeber of the opposing party. Your user name reveals your own bias.
Stagzr454 2 years ago
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1stGenRefugee 2 years ago
AMEN to the first gentleman!!!
383mazda 2 years ago 8