I will love to see all the people from the military and government that were part of this disgusting lie in jail. Oh man, that will be justice. Its a crime against mankind. People from USA, you pay the taxes, you pay the salary of this criminal little liars. DEMAND THE TRUTH AN PUT THIS COWARDS IN JAIL. NOW. NOT NEXT YEAR.
Just ask yourself. Do you really believe that a pilot from the air force do not know what is a weather balloon? Not even the most lazy and retarded pilot in the world dont know what a weather balloon looks like. Something happened in Roswell. After hours of investigation the first statement of the military was: "is a ALIEN SPACECRAFT", the next day they say is a weather balloon. USE YOUR INTELLIGENCE. If it was a weather balloon, those people were the worst military staff in the history of man.
I did a paper in college on the Roswell Incident; the class was called "Critical Thinking". The assignment was to present an argument of why the story was true, after looking at evidence.
Reasons:
1) Number of witnesses of all backgrounds (farmers, police, professionals, children, etc.).
2) The time period; people trusted the military and government.
3) Why would officers risk their careers; to state there was an UFO.
4) Confessions later of high ranking officers, saying it was a cover-up.
@yhenry77 At least you lived to tell the tale, unlike everybody who spoke of Roswell if they witnessed its truth. That includes the U.S. Secretary of Defense who said reinforcements from throughout the universe were coming in to save the planet Earth from its Public Enemy Number One -- Humans. And guess what? Hail, hail, the gang's all here.
before i log off listen.. I find the Alien/UFO subject to be very interesting. I own the X-files on DVD, The TV Show Roswell, A 1997 Roswell documentary, over 6 Alien/UFO movies.
Ive seen all the UFO files episodes on History channel. I saw probably all UFO Hunters episodes. Ive seen all Larry King UFO Debates. Ive seen plenty of UFO specials on TV. Ive seen countless case documentaries. Im not a debunker of anykind & not apposed to the exsistance of ETs. Its all about legit evidence
@muchohumptyhump And thats not half of it. I watched a few disclosure docs, listen to coast to coast am, listen to Airline black box tapes, put my favorite UFO docs on DVD, Out of the blue, seeing is believing, explored many cases like phoenix lights, kecksburg, roswell, bentwaters, shag harbor, battle of LA, Betty & Barney hill, Abductions, crop circles, Nasa & so on.
Its a intersting subject for me. Im just not very guilible & I need proof like most skeptics
Theres no point in going back & fourth because you have your mind made up about the government &the whole conspiracies about cover ups. Facts are theres no proof of a crash just a witness testimony which is not proof at all. After half a century, no wreckage has even come to the light not even a piece.
Take the phoenix lights for example. Hundreds of witness claim to see a massive V shaped craft hovering over the city. Yet no videos of said craft has surfaced in 13 years. only 3 flare videos
First of all, the military would never allow such a press release without independent verification, as I say, no one like to look foolish. It make them look ridiculous in nay case. Moreover, the government LIES, ok,,, And, you are wrong, several pieces of the wrekage has come to light; but for people like you, no proof is sufficient, it just can't be! If you have done your homework, you would know, physical evidence has been brought forward; still the government denies.
@konigtigertank PLEASE SHOW ME A LINK to this wreckage that was found. I havent hear anything of this. None of the documentaries Ive seen ever brought up the wreckage being recovered. I never heard Stanton Friedmen even mention anything. I saw a Sci Fi Roswell digg where they wer actually digging for evidence & they failed to mention there was already some wreckage obtained.
Dr. Lier has a piece that has proveanace and been throughly analyzed and found to have properties that are extra~terrestrial and you will have to dig on youtube for the others(several), it is there, believe this. :) whether or not you can accept the proof given is another matter; but, credible independent analyses have been done.
I must say you seem to be one of the paranoid conspiracy theorist that love saying how much the government is lying. Some stuff like Mogul you cant tell the world about, neither can you open the gates to area 51. Protecting the country comes first before anything.
@crogeek LOL. You think youve been abducted by aliens? And you know their schedules.
I suggest you keep that to yourself for the rest of your life. No good can come of telling people that. And yes the balloon story has been proven to be the truth by the government several times
@konigtigertank People mistake things all the time. At that time Kenneth Arnold was the 1st guy to report a UFO. Then everyone & there mommas were reporting to see UFOs. It was a craze back then & people kusted wanted to believe...even Marcel.
Project mogul was under wraps from the public. So Marcel wasnt aware of it. A storm broke the material apart. Things were scattered & people wanted to make a UFO crash connection.
very glib and silly.... Kenneth Arnold was not the first person to report UFO's, they've been reported since time immemorial, firstly. Secondly, Maj. Jesse Marcel and most of the town was very familiar with "balloon" wreckage, they landed in and around it all the time. It boils down to this, until the lying government decides to "reveal" more evidence, who do you believe. Do you believe in the lying government, who admitted to have lied twice about the issue, or Maj. Marcel?
@konigtigertank No way to prove that UFOs ''reports'' hundreads of years ago were even genuine. They could all be myths like any other tales told generations ago. But Kenneth Arnold was the 1st guy to bring what we know as ''Flying saucers to the forefront. This is what got everyone seeing these ''saucers'' & equating it with alien life visiting earth.
Maj. Marcel was very familiar with all sorts of wreckage; it was part of his job to investigate air crashes. He is a very honorable and honest man from all accounts.
Believe what you choose; I believe Marcel was not lying and the material that came down was not conventional at all. The government has lied about this and many other matters; It has not been evidential that Marcel ever lied about anything, nor would he have any reason too.
@konigtigertank I didnt say Marcel was lying & he doesnt have a reason to really. He just misidentified something he was unware of even exsisting. Add that to the UFO craze at the time & you have a man that is sucked into believing something to be a UFO broken up. Hes not a liar , just mistaken.
At that time, Kenneth Arnold was not the first to report them, he was the first to get major publicity in which the term "flying disc" later "flying saucer" was first coined.
oh, yeah, one more thing. Marcel never said anything publicly at the time about what this was. It was Col. Blanchard who ordered Lt. Haut to make the press release that they had pieces of a "flying disc" in their possession. There was absolutely NO reason to even make such a claim; "just balloon wreckage" why even mention anything about it. It was a faux pas on his part, and General concocted the absurd explanation "it was balloon weckage", that make Marcel look foolish...
@b4gm4n The war ended in 1945, and the US would have know if a V2 was sent from Germany as the US was occupying Germany at the time which they still do today.
Current official word was that the "UFO" that crashed in Roswell in 46 was in fact a top secrete military balloon designed to spy/blow up Russia should it be necessary, had they announced this back then Russia would have gone ape-shit and a new war would have started.
@b4gm4n Great. Now explain why the chief intelligence officer at the most secret nuclear bomber base in the US, in 1947, announced to the world that they had retrieved a flying saucer? If it was a crashed rocket, all they had to do was say NOTHING and no one in the US of A would have known anything had happened at all.
I will love to see all the people from the military and government that were part of this disgusting lie in jail. Oh man, that will be justice. Its a crime against mankind. People from USA, you pay the taxes, you pay the salary of this criminal little liars. DEMAND THE TRUTH AN PUT THIS COWARDS IN JAIL. NOW. NOT NEXT YEAR.
brunogcv 6 months ago
Just ask yourself. Do you really believe that a pilot from the air force do not know what is a weather balloon? Not even the most lazy and retarded pilot in the world dont know what a weather balloon looks like. Something happened in Roswell. After hours of investigation the first statement of the military was: "is a ALIEN SPACECRAFT", the next day they say is a weather balloon. USE YOUR INTELLIGENCE. If it was a weather balloon, those people were the worst military staff in the history of man.
brunogcv 6 months ago
8:38 were those white things the aliens?!? Lol
MrGioComet 8 months ago
@MrGioComet no dont think so just stuff left over from the crash well see the aliens later
freacls 7 months ago
@MrGioComet clouds :P
PaulisWilliam 5 months ago
This is one of the few conspiracy theories that has actually raised my eyebrow.
aarn321 10 months ago
I did a paper in college on the Roswell Incident; the class was called "Critical Thinking". The assignment was to present an argument of why the story was true, after looking at evidence.
Reasons:
1) Number of witnesses of all backgrounds (farmers, police, professionals, children, etc.).
2) The time period; people trusted the military and government.
3) Why would officers risk their careers; to state there was an UFO.
4) Confessions later of high ranking officers, saying it was a cover-up.
yhenry77 11 months ago 8
@yhenry77 good thinking. For some this is not enough. Maybe nothing is.. Maybe we only see the tings we want to see???
gogeunger 10 months ago
@yhenry77 At least you lived to tell the tale, unlike everybody who spoke of Roswell if they witnessed its truth. That includes the U.S. Secretary of Defense who said reinforcements from throughout the universe were coming in to save the planet Earth from its Public Enemy Number One -- Humans. And guess what? Hail, hail, the gang's all here.
redfordforpresident 5 months ago
"Are we gonna stay here"?? "Hell no man, that's the barn..." funny :))
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank hey that rancher is dwight yoakum
thoostorm4 7 months ago
@konigtigertank matt brazzle isplayed by dwight YOakum
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violafinishda 1 year ago
before i log off listen.. I find the Alien/UFO subject to be very interesting. I own the X-files on DVD, The TV Show Roswell, A 1997 Roswell documentary, over 6 Alien/UFO movies.
Ive seen all the UFO files episodes on History channel. I saw probably all UFO Hunters episodes. Ive seen all Larry King UFO Debates. Ive seen plenty of UFO specials on TV. Ive seen countless case documentaries. Im not a debunker of anykind & not apposed to the exsistance of ETs. Its all about legit evidence
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump And thats not half of it. I watched a few disclosure docs, listen to coast to coast am, listen to Airline black box tapes, put my favorite UFO docs on DVD, Out of the blue, seeing is believing, explored many cases like phoenix lights, kecksburg, roswell, bentwaters, shag harbor, battle of LA, Betty & Barney hill, Abductions, crop circles, Nasa & so on.
Its a intersting subject for me. Im just not very guilible & I need proof like most skeptics
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump Just accept that it's 5 o'clock somewhere.
etbella3 11 months ago
Theres no point in going back & fourth because you have your mind made up about the government &the whole conspiracies about cover ups. Facts are theres no proof of a crash just a witness testimony which is not proof at all. After half a century, no wreckage has even come to the light not even a piece.
Take the phoenix lights for example. Hundreds of witness claim to see a massive V shaped craft hovering over the city. Yet no videos of said craft has surfaced in 13 years. only 3 flare videos
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
First of all, the military would never allow such a press release without independent verification, as I say, no one like to look foolish. It make them look ridiculous in nay case. Moreover, the government LIES, ok,,, And, you are wrong, several pieces of the wrekage has come to light; but for people like you, no proof is sufficient, it just can't be! If you have done your homework, you would know, physical evidence has been brought forward; still the government denies.
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank PLEASE SHOW ME A LINK to this wreckage that was found. I havent hear anything of this. None of the documentaries Ive seen ever brought up the wreckage being recovered. I never heard Stanton Friedmen even mention anything. I saw a Sci Fi Roswell digg where they wer actually digging for evidence & they failed to mention there was already some wreckage obtained.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
I am not going to do your research for you.
Dr. Lier has a piece that has proveanace and been throughly analyzed and found to have properties that are extra~terrestrial and you will have to dig on youtube for the others(several), it is there, believe this. :) whether or not you can accept the proof given is another matter; but, credible independent analyses have been done.
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank Fox Mulder's poster says "I Want To Believe" because the alternative is to believe that humans are as high and good as it gets.
etbella3 11 months ago
I must say you seem to be one of the paranoid conspiracy theorist that love saying how much the government is lying. Some stuff like Mogul you cant tell the world about, neither can you open the gates to area 51. Protecting the country comes first before anything.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
Then, there was NO reason to mention anything at all about it!
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
They are firstly interested in protecting themselves!
konigtigertank 1 year ago
this was just a misidentification of a secret project. ..project mogul
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump you're wrong
crogeek 1 year ago
@crogeek how am I wrong? Its been proven that it was a air balloon.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump It is not. As formal abductee I know 6 species which are visiting us almost every day.
crogeek 1 year ago
@crogeek LOL. You think youve been abducted by aliens? And you know their schedules.
I suggest you keep that to yourself for the rest of your life. No good can come of telling people that. And yes the balloon story has been proven to be the truth by the government several times
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump That's you problem if you believe to goverments.
crogeek 1 year ago
@crogeek Sorry but after you said youve been abducted by aliens your opinion means nothing to me any more. SORRY
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump me2 for you, and I don't care for blind people like you. Just I am laughing on they usually.
crogeek 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
how could the bases intelligence officer "mistaken" balloon "Mogul" wreckage??,
there was nothing special about that material, only it's purpose...
Marcel was adamant it was not conventional, whatever it was!
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank People mistake things all the time. At that time Kenneth Arnold was the 1st guy to report a UFO. Then everyone & there mommas were reporting to see UFOs. It was a craze back then & people kusted wanted to believe...even Marcel.
Project mogul was under wraps from the public. So Marcel wasnt aware of it. A storm broke the material apart. Things were scattered & people wanted to make a UFO crash connection.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
very glib and silly.... Kenneth Arnold was not the first person to report UFO's, they've been reported since time immemorial, firstly. Secondly, Maj. Jesse Marcel and most of the town was very familiar with "balloon" wreckage, they landed in and around it all the time. It boils down to this, until the lying government decides to "reveal" more evidence, who do you believe. Do you believe in the lying government, who admitted to have lied twice about the issue, or Maj. Marcel?
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank No way to prove that UFOs ''reports'' hundreads of years ago were even genuine. They could all be myths like any other tales told generations ago. But Kenneth Arnold was the 1st guy to bring what we know as ''Flying saucers to the forefront. This is what got everyone seeing these ''saucers'' & equating it with alien life visiting earth.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@konigtigertank
General Remey would rather have Marcel look foolish than the Army!
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
Maj. Marcel was very familiar with all sorts of wreckage; it was part of his job to investigate air crashes. He is a very honorable and honest man from all accounts.
Believe what you choose; I believe Marcel was not lying and the material that came down was not conventional at all. The government has lied about this and many other matters; It has not been evidential that Marcel ever lied about anything, nor would he have any reason too.
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank I didnt say Marcel was lying & he doesnt have a reason to really. He just misidentified something he was unware of even exsisting. Add that to the UFO craze at the time & you have a man that is sucked into believing something to be a UFO broken up. Hes not a liar , just mistaken.
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
At that time, Kenneth Arnold was not the first to report them, he was the first to get major publicity in which the term "flying disc" later "flying saucer" was first coined.
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank
reverse that order, flying saucer then disc.
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
oh, yeah, one more thing. Marcel never said anything publicly at the time about what this was. It was Col. Blanchard who ordered Lt. Haut to make the press release that they had pieces of a "flying disc" in their possession. There was absolutely NO reason to even make such a claim; "just balloon wreckage" why even mention anything about it. It was a faux pas on his part, and General concocted the absurd explanation "it was balloon weckage", that make Marcel look foolish...
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@konigtigertank marcel claimed they had a ufo & he was taken up on his word. later it came to conlusion it was a balloon
muchohumptyhump 1 year ago
@muchohumptyhump
ok, bro... ;)
konigtigertank 1 year ago
@b4gm4n The war ended in 1945, and the US would have know if a V2 was sent from Germany as the US was occupying Germany at the time which they still do today.
Current official word was that the "UFO" that crashed in Roswell in 46 was in fact a top secrete military balloon designed to spy/blow up Russia should it be necessary, had they announced this back then Russia would have gone ape-shit and a new war would have started.
IamDeadMetal 1 year ago
@b4gm4n Great. Now explain why the chief intelligence officer at the most secret nuclear bomber base in the US, in 1947, announced to the world that they had retrieved a flying saucer? If it was a crashed rocket, all they had to do was say NOTHING and no one in the US of A would have known anything had happened at all.
velveetaslingshot 1 year ago
fukin great man!!!
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