@jeepstir69 and @TikondaRoga...I'm the guy that owned the Formula in the vid, its gone now but thought I would clear some things up for you 2. Both T/As and Formulas had a few different gearing options and according to the build codes on the car mine had 2.73 gears, not great for getting out the hole but as you can see I did just fine. Also, Formulas were ment to be "stripped" down T/As to cut back weight. Most had manual locks, windows, and solid roofs. Mine had power everything and t-tops.
LEARN TO DRIVE YOUR OWN CAR DUMB ASS.... If your gong to have your daddy buy you a GT500 then learn how to drive/race. Or dont own one at all cuz your probably end up crashing it
You are an idiot. The same gearing options were available for T/A's and Formula's! Formula's are actually much harder to find and much more collectable. "just a formula"...same powerplant, same gear options = do some research. For every 1 Formula out there, 10 Trans Ams were made.
@jeepstir69 Huh weird...You know I did what you said, I did some research and guess what??? Formula 4 and 6 speeds come standard with 3.08 gears, with a 3.42 option. Where the T/A comes standard with 3.42's... Good call out dip shit.
@TiKondaRoga wS6* because of the ram air intake. Trans Ams just have the body kit, so formulas are generally faster than trans ams by a hair. The WS6 is a tad faster though.
that is pretty embarassing for the gt500 n every lil biased ford guy is going 2 say the gt500 knt shift o sumshit ls1 is still badass motor ... i personally luv the gt500 way better but when its in my price range ill gt it jajaja for now ill jus stik w the m6 t/a im getn n jan.
The electronics control the choke, fuel metering cuz it has a mixture control solenoid that controls the air/fuel ratio in the carburetor, a throttle position sensor which tells the car's computer the position of the throttle, etc...
You all got to remember ---- the unrivaled beauty of a big block chevy in an engine conpartment ---- First time I saw one at a tender age of 17 I was spoiled for life. In a 1968 Impala at that .The rumble made me hard for weeks.I've had lot's of others but none bring back the excitement of that first love.The simp[ycity was awe inspiring , the acceleration irrational-- the rumble orgasmic.
vayloc, if you've been long enough to "build" soo many 500hp n/a cars you should know about jon kaase and his n/a engines, or what about BES both recent ENGINE MASTERS CHAMPS both FORD BUILDS, move over smokey yunick here comes vayloc. wheres you Engine masters entry?
Where's your Engine Master's entry!?, cuz if I had not had mentioned magazines like GM High Tech Performance, Muscle Car Review, High Performance Pontiac, or Engine Master's, you wouldn't have known nothin' about it!, and yes, I've heard of John Kaase, I've heard of Steve Morris, Shafiroff, move over everybody, here comes projectslo50 with no entry at all lol, at least I've built something.
Wow, and your name is projectslo lol, you dumb bitch, you clowned yourself on that one lol, and you're asking me about my Engine Master's entry, PROJECTSLO LOL...
Yes, I'm not blind......... I'm just trying to say that the GT500 should have done better against the stock LS1 Formula. I think Ford should design a modern Cleveland style N/A motor to run with LS and Mopar powered cars.
due to the fact that the shelby is maybe 800 LBS heavier and has that SLA rear end and is only puttin out about 8 lbs of boost, and the fact that it was a stick i'd say it done a damn good job if they were to keep goin that shelby wouldve lapped that car
formulas are slow? im running 12.9's on avg stock...lol i smoke modded trans am's (usually exhaust,air lid,and free mods)... you want to talk shit lets run em kid
Especially when I win a race against a car with a power adder. I've beaten some of them all. Supercharged, turbo, nitrous, you name it. Im not really knockin it but I do think it was kinda cheezy by Ford to force power with the SC. They really didnt have too now that they are using the 5.4 setup again. But hey, it is a pretty good car for stock. I cant wait to race one of these. I pull hard on the 03 models so I cant wait till I can find one in the area willing to run.
Yeah I know this to be fact as well. Too many of them out there to deny it. Im a huge T/A fan and this race really went as it should. Stock for stock the mustang SHOULD win. Now, given the price difference between both cars, you could absolutely build an LS1 or LT1 that would beat this car for less than the cost of the stang. You are given the freedom of choice. And btw dont hate on N/A tuning. My formula is totally N/A and it gives me more of an appreciation for my car and myself.
I know for a fact you can get 550+HP out of an N/A LS1 from experience. Ive seen N/A LS1 346 motors producing well over 600HP N/A so a 396 would push well over 700HP if you know what your doing. Its not easy but with the right head cam set up it is possible. I can see both sides of the arguement here and this conversation is like beating a dead horse...lol. Its all a matter of opinion. To each there own.
Not only that, that magazine has a reputation to uphold, it would make them look bad when people can prove them liars, but I understand exactly what you're sayin' though, cuz I'm the type of person that believes in seeing it for myself, show me the money!, but then again, you would love to see those numbers?, go pick up the May 2009 issue of High Performance Pontiac!, & read all about it!, anytime your hp ratings EXCEED your cubic inches, that's true engineering!, it can be done!
I have and know what your talking about. Both Ford and GM have put FI on a cars in the present and the past. But your always going to hit a wall without a power adder. Yes you can get 1000HP out of a N/A BB V8 but where are you going to get the other 1000 HP if you wanted it. The HP numbers your saying are respectable numbers for being N/A but at some point everyone wants more.
Yeah, you're right, you can't stop the next man from building his motor the way he wants, like I mentioned, I accept that, if a guy wants to put a power adder on his motor, hey, go for it, my thing is beating you naturally, but the majority of the time, you're not going to be able to activate your power adder when we meet in traffic or on the freeway, unless we're at the track, what can your motor do BEFORE activation of the power adder?, that's where the real competition lies, but I hear you
First off "Vay" I agree with you to a point. N/A motors are a thing of the past now. Why go through all the trouble and money when you can have a FI. Even Top Fuel uses FI. Now if I was building a 71 Chevelle then yes what your saying makes sense. You just have an old school mentality about motors which is ok but I think its also being narrow minded. Horsepower is horsepower no matter what way you use to get it.
Yeah, you're right on a lot of points, but let's face it, most of us are not racing in the NHRA, we're just street racers who like to build our cars according to your own taste, no problem, my only problem is when guys get on here & trash true engineering, Ford ain't no joke now!, but neither is GM, & it kinda pisses me off how guys brag about a car they paid for, & didn't have a part in the engineering of the product, but hey, I hear you tho...
You say Naturally Aspirated motors are a thing of the past?, you need to go pick up a copy of Chevy High Performance, Engine Masters, Muscle Car Review, GM High Tech Performance, or High Performance Pontiac, cuz Natural Aspiration hasn't gone anywhere man, I've got an article where people put 600hp on a Mopar 408, 620hp on a smallblock 396 LT1, 435hp on a GM 305, 441hp on a GM 350, & all these applications are naturally aspirated!
Oh the Shelby GT500 is the best car in the world it can smoke the ZR1. The Shelby runs 8 sec 1/4 mile times 100 percent stock and has a top speed of 300mph...lol. Also I had a 93 5.0 Mustang and it ran a 10 sec 1/4 mile times with just an air filter....lol. Geez some of the comments left on here are so damn funny. Half of these comments on here are left by 16 yr old kids anyways so they wouldnt know better. Facts are facts and anyone who has actually been to a drag strip knows these facts.
A 93 5.0 would need some serious engine work to run 12's. I had a 93 Cobra with a supercharger and it only ran mid 12's. You were lucky to see low 14's with a 93 5.0 and minor bolt ons. They are very light cars but I just dont believe it. Im not trying to get into a pissing contest im just stating what ive seen and done through experience. Ive owned an 89GT,93 Cobra, 02GT and an 03 Mach 1 in the past so ive I know what certain Mustangs are capable of. The 03 Mach 1 ran low to mid 13's stock.
I still disagree with you but you have a right to your own opinion. A stock Z06 will run in the 11's stock and there is no stock Shelby GT500 that will do that. A Zo6 is an all around better car IMO. All the stock GT500's ive seen in FL run in the high 12's stock with an average driver. All the tracks here are at or below sea level also. But I will say that the Shelby has a ton of potential and the motors are great.
A Z06 would walk a stock Shelby GT500easily in every way..High 12's is not hard to achieve with a minor bolt on LS1. Just because you work for an Auto Dealer dosnt mean you know everything about every type of car.
a stock zo6 will NOT beat a stock GT500, sorry. a stock gt500 runs 12.3 not high 12's as u state. im talking stock for stock, modding any car can easily even the playing field and yes a modded zo6 should beat a gt500. but i will say i do know more about cars than most, since i have gotten to drive hard alot of cars most do not. besides my 93 5.0 ran high 12's easily with minor boltons, 12's are easy.
A modded and stock ZO6 will smoke a GT500 point blank!, without the supercharger, the GT500 does not stand a chance, a stock ZO6 is runnin' high 11's, low 12's at over 120mph!, there's no way a Mustang which was intended to compete against the Camaro, which is a DETUNED Corvette, can beat a super lightweight Corvette, the Mustang is always a heavy car, and the only reason why some Mustangs beat Camaros is cuz some Camaros still come from the factory with a tall, highway gear for the fuel economy
It don't matter, the Cobra needs the forced induction and the taller 6th gear since you spoke on that, WITHOUT THE SUPERCHARGER, THE FORGED BOTTOM END, the Cobra wouldn't stand a chance against a stock Z06 or even an LS1, LS2, LS7, OR AN LT4, which was 330hp, 13 secs at 109mph!,N/A, only thing wrong with the CAMARO'S LS1 IS THE HEADS ARE DETUNED, THE CORVETTE'S LS1 HEADS WERE WORTH 45 MORE HP!, & LIKE I SAID, THEY CAME WITH WEAK REAR ENDS & FACTORY TALL HIGHWAY GEARS...
i dont wanna shit about detuned and all of this other bs fact is the cobra has s/c stock vs stock cobra wins as far as a taller gear that was to get better mpg not speed so try again jack
Why don't you come with a better argument, you can't deny or refute the facts I'm speaking, and no, the Cobra does not always win, cuz I've seen STOCK NATURALLY ASPIRATED CORVETTES LEAVE COBRAS CHOKIN' ON CLEAN EXHAUST FUMES!, SAVE IT!, we all know the the 6th gear is an overdrive gear for fuel economy, I told you that in my 1st reply, & the 6th gear barely adds any speed, why do you think the speedometer barely moves when 6th gear is activated, cuz it's a small gear, bringin' engine RPM down...
i didnt know that the vette came in a ss package because we went from the camaro to the vette yes the vette is a better car be we all cant buy a vette. u said that some camaros come with taller gears that why mustangs outrun them thats what you said try your comments again bubba and then read mine or have somebody read them for you
I never said anything about a Corvette coming in an SS package, the bottom line is your Cobra needs the assistance of the supercharger point blank!, I will build a motor from scratch, a 350, shit, I'll build a 305 and put 350 to 400hp on that 305 and roast you, since the Mustang's 4.6L 280 some cubic inch engine is smaller than the Chevy 305 and show you real hp at it's finest!, like I said, stop bragging about a car you paid for and you didn't do any of the work!
You sound like a young, 15 year old who obviously knows nothin' about high performance, your weakest gears are 6th/overdrive, and reverse, I never said anything about 6th gear adding speed, you bragged that the 6th gear was taller, you IMPLIED that was the reason why the Cobra beats the Camaro, you don't know what you're talkin' about man, you just shitted on yourself and I definitely would shit on you when I'm done with this 84 Monte Carlo and an 86 IROC Z...
I'll put over 400hp on an L98 350 NATURALLY ASPIRATED, with the stock cast iron crank and forged steel rods while your Cobra is strugging to attain those numbers with help of a forged bottom end & S/C!, while I hear your S/C whining as I pass you, and I'm still ridin' on the primaries of the carburetor!, I haven't open the secondaries yet!, that's real high performance, I don't care if the Mustang comes stock with a S/C, that's coo, but not impressive, forced induction adding hp is a no brainer!
people choose how they wanna make hp , just bc you dont like how they do it doesnt make them less of a person your just mad these stangs are busting your ass
I'm not mad nor am I knockin' how people choose to build hp, I just can't stand it when people like you sound like a cheerleader and brag about a car with a supercharger on it, that is not impressive like I said earlier, anybody can put a supercharger, turbocharger, or nitrous on a motor and of course it's going to add hp, NO MUSTANG HAS EVA BUSTED MY ASS, I WAS KILLIN' ALL MUSTANGS I EVER RACED WITH MY STOCK 700R4 TRANSMISSION AND L98 350, ALL I HAD TO DO WAS CHANGE THE GEAR...
Try building that same 400 or 500hp naturally aspirated, FROM SCRATCH!, LIKE I DO, THEN YOU CAN TALK TO ME!, DON'T COME HERE AND BRAG ABOUT A CAR YOU PAID FOR THAT CAME FROM THE FACTORY WITH A SUPERCHARGER AND YOU DID NONE OF THE WORK!, YOU'RE LUCKY FORD DID ALL THE WORK FOR YOU, LIKE I SAID, BUILD THAT HP NATURALLY ASPIRATED, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOMETHIN' TO BRAG TO ME ABOUT!
I don't care how much 03-04 Cobras dyno, the LS2 is dynoing at 400hp at the wheels so what are you sayin'?, & the LS7 is dynoing WAYYY PAST that at the wheels with the 505 rating at the crank!, & yes, adding Forced Induction is a no brainer, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it adds more hp using the principle of forced air, or bolt it on, tune the boost, and go, & it's not hard to bore and stroke an engine block, like I said, the Vette's LS1 heads were worth 45hp by themselves!
I wouldn't do anything that stupid without beefing up the engine with a forged or billet rotating assembly, & bore and stroking the block, if you paid any attention to what I typed, you would see I'm talking about natural aspiration, which is where TRUE horsepower lies!, you sound like the type of person who doesn't know what you're doing, but then again, you've got to be kidding cuz I know you couldn't be that stupid, but I'll be more than happy to laugh when you break rods in the street lol
You're not racing in the NHRA man, Forced Induction is the wave of the future & the present, but don't trash Natural Aspiration, cuz bragging about a force inducted motor is not impressive, anybody can bolt on a S/C, Nitrous, etc, & add power, like I said, that's a no brainer, go put that same 6-700hp on a N/A smallblock 396 LT1 that your forced inducted 4.6 or 5.4 is doing with the supercharger, then holla at me!, better yet, go pick up a copy of Chevy High Performance!, go read that book!
Man, you really are in the dark & you don't know shit about building horsepower!, you're embarrassing yourself to say the only motors you've heard of outputting 600+hp are 600 cubic inch motors?, if a smallblock Nascar 358 is outputting 900hp, and an NHRA 500 some cubic inch big block is outputting 8,000hp, then a 600 cu in big block outputting ONLY 600hp is an embarrassment!, a reputable magazine like the ones I mentioned ARE NOT going to lie, cuz they run the risk of being sued!
I've seen Cobras get smoked by stock Z06's and C5R, C5, & C6 Vettes, if the Vette's LS1 heads were 45hp by themselves, what do you think an intake manifold & cam will do?, & remember, the LS1 is old technology now!, so what do you think aftermarket heads for an LS2, LS3, LS7, or an LSX will do?, all that is BEFORE forced induction!, people can put heads, intake, & cam on old generation 3-4 350 blocks and get damn near AND OVER 400hp NATURALLY ASPIRATED!, so go ahead, U need the S/C for your ford
Don't let me replace the 2:73 with a 3:27, 3:42, no bigger than a 3:54 or even a 3:90 gear, cuz if I did, Cobra would be smellin' my exhaust in combo with the Corvette heads!, like I said, the LT4 Camaro SS was 13 secs at 109mph, the Mustang is barely gettin' past 100mph with the same times!, no Mustang of that time or now is cuttin' those times, & if it was, the supercharger is activated!, & there's no way any Mustang is beating a ZO6 with the LS7, Cobra needs the S/C to achieve those numbers!
You sound like a fuckin' idiot!, there's no way in the world a punk ass 4.6L, 280 some cubic inch engine is going to beat a 7.0L smallblock 427 layin' down over 500hp!, are you kidding me?
real hp? When clevelands come to play, chevy runs away. Ford shoud go back to push rods just to shut all you wining chevy guys up. Shit an old 351w is is much better than an ls1 by far. But modular engines have proved time and time again to be just as good if not better. Example, 1000hp lsx turbo vette would have more power na over a 5.4l, but there are 1500hp turbo ford gt's on the same engine. pushrods have that na option, modular for boost, so stop crying all of the time. 427w 550hp!!!
Don't flatter yourself homeboy!, cuz I've never seen Chevy run from a Ford 351 Cleveland, I've seen Chevy big block 396's, L72, L88, & ZL1 427's, smallblock L79 327's, Chevy 302's, 1970 LT1's blow 351 Cleveland's & Cobra Jet 428's out of the water!, so how are we Chevy guys whining when the LS7 smallblock 427 is outputting over 500 naturally aspirated hp?
Shit I've seen sbf's beat big block chevy's, and chevy 302's? Don't get me started on who built the best 302. so why not flatter myself. You all whine about the 03-04 cobra supercharger beacause it beats the f body, and even the new shitty camaro. 500hp really isn't that great for a 427 really. shit, 347 can do that na.
Chevy built the best 302!, in the 1969 Chevy Camaro Z28, it was rpo coded DZ302 and since you say a 427 isn't that great for outputting only 500hp, the fact that it's a SMALLBLOCK 427 outputting more hp than it's cubic inch engine size shows it surpasses the 1 hp per cubic inch performance rule, & like I said before, a supercharged motor is nothing spectacular, it's a no brainer a force inducted engine produces more hp, and yes, I've built Chevy 350's outputting 500hp+!, naturally aspirated!
First of all, you need to shut the fuck up and stop smokin' all that 420 cuz it's got you delusional, for one thing, you should be agreeing with me cuz I am a Chevy man, but like I said, all that bullshit, dirt, wannabe Kush 420 you're smokin' has got your lil pea brain clouded, I feel sorry for your mother who gave birth to an ignorant ass youtube idiot lol, BITCH lolol
Wow, lol looks like I struck a nerve. Oh, and don't be jealous that I smoke more pot than a Jamaican. You drink? Yeah, that's shit's more dangerous than bud, faggot. And do you own a car, there little buddy? A Honda, perhaps?
You little bitch, you could never smoke more weed than a Jamaican, they're not called Rastah kings for nothin', and you don't have that kind of money to buy and smoke pounds at a time faggot!, and no, I don't drive imports!, I drive an 84 Monte Carlo SS, BUILT FROM SCRATCH, and I'm modifying an 86 IROC too, and I'll dust that lil faggot ass pustang you probably have when I'm done modifying the same L98 350 the car came with, and I'm not talking about no easy ass bolt-ons!, sucker!, bitch, lol
Haha, I own a 1990 Chevrolet Silverado 2WD extended cab with a mean thumpin Goodwrench 350, and a 383 stroker cam with the heads and all. Lol, Mustangs are for children, as are Camaros. I'm a working man with a truck, so beat it little buddy. I actually have a video proving what I own. What videos do you have up proving what you got? Not that hard to find a camera and a couple of minutes, there faggot.
Shut the fuck up you dumbass lol, see, that's what I'm talkin' about, that 420 has got you on stupid!, like a weird ass witch doctor lol, why would you even mention a punk ass Silverado!, yeah, you had to drop in a Goodwrench 350 I ain't mad atcha on that one, but you should have dropped that engine in a Camaro or Firebird or somethin', cuz grown men drive them cars,a truck is not known for any performance, a truck is nowhere near a musclecar, and I'm 34 years old, and I'm a working man bitch!
I didn't assume anything, I told you what you had after you confirmed, and you just lied, you said the truck came with a stock 350 and you installed the 383 stroker cam in it, but earlier, you said you dropped in a Goodwrench 350, which is a crate motor dummy!, & droppin' built Chevy engines in Datsun 240Z's is common out here in L.A. cuz that's what my father, uncle's, and all the street racers did, shit, I would leave you in the dust smellin' my clean flowmaster exhaust fumes...
I would be 2 car lengths ahead of you when I TAP the gas, & I'm still riding on the primaries of the Q-Jet lol, not even 1/4 throttle!, I don't need a Barry Grant Demon, Edelbrock, or Holley Dominator 4150 or whatever carburetor to beat you!, I'll whip your ass with this modified, rebuilt Q-Jet LOL
I don't have to prove shit to you!, right now, my concern is not a video camera, I'm too busy concentrating on building these hot rods, and that's where my money is going, I don't care about no video games, no clothes, shoes, computer's, none of that!, tomorrow, I'm going to pick-a-part to get a steering column, console, & floor shift for the Monte Carlo, then I'm gonna go to my folks house, pull the intake & carburetor off to replace gaskets, go look at my profile pic & see what I've done!
I don't care about your video about your truck!, don't you worry though, cuz when I feel like buyin' a video camera, you will be the 1st to see how I get down!, you youtube clown!, & besides, you're lying anyway, cuz first you said you dropped a Goodwrench 350 & 383 cam in your truck, then you turned around & said the truck came with a stock 350 & you put the 383 cam in that!, whatever, like I said Mr. weird, witch doctor, put the weed down & clear your brains for a minute lol.
I won you punk bitch, cuz you blocked me which shows I shut you down you ignorant, countrybunk cracker lol, fuck your redneck mom too faggot, stop smokin' that dirt and meth with her too lol
Lol, then how are you replying? Huh bitch? And yeah, you don't have a video to prove what you got, so I'm calling bullshit and I'm calling you a liar until you prove what you own. Hands down, simple as that. Anyone can spout off a whole bunch of shit on a YouTube comment box, but 90% of people who do that only wish they had what's spewing forth from their cockholsters. You're gay!
Why did you reply in the first place faggot?, nobody asked you for you opinion, you're full of shit, that's why you're callin' bullshit you bitch ass whore, YOU'RE GAY, cuz you're offended cuz I clowned you and shut yo stupid, meth smokin', countrybunk ass down, BITCH!, like I said, stop sharing the meth bong with your mother lol
Lol, again, WHERE'S YOUR VIDEO PUNK? And meth is what faggot little queers from the city do. We smoke weed and drink beer out here in the coutry, motherfucker. Of course, your drug-induced retardedness needs to be corrected sometimes, and that's why I'm here, lol. I can bet a hundred bucks you'll reply to this post too. A hundred fuckin bucks.
I don't have nothin' to prove to you you countrybunk faggot!, like I told yo bitch ass before, go look at my profile pic see my work, I rebuilt an electronic, computer controlled Q-Jet carburetor & that's not even a 1/4 of my work, & THE CARBURETOR IS MODIFIED!, you correcting me is far from your capabilities you hypocrite ass liar, cuz you lied about installing a 383 cam in a Goodwrench 350 motor & then you turned around & said you put the cam in the stock 350 the truck came with LIAR LOL...
And we blacks don't smoke meth out here in the city, we drink Hennessy, Belvedere & smoke KUSH faggot, your countrybunk ass ain't smokin' no weed, you're smokin' meth you fag, you didn't prove me wrong, all you did was brag to me about your faggot ass Silverado with an engine & cam you don't even have lol, woopty doo, while I've been tellin' everybody here how to build naturally aspirated hp with what you have, faggot, wow, you're the shit cuz you bought a motor & put it in your truck lol, wow!
You fuckin' hillbilly, trailer park, white trash delusional drug addict lol, you have the nerve to TRY to correct somebody but you have a video of a raggedy ass old ten speed bike on your page lol, you fuckin' trailer park hillbilly, yeah, all y'ou counrtybunk hillbillies do is drink beer & drive a bitch, raggedy ass Silverado lol
Haha, raggedy ass ten speed? More like beautiful expensive fixed gear velodrome bike. And my truck has less than a hundred thousand miles on it, so it drives like it's brand new. And trailer park? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I OWN a two-story, cinder brick Victorian home in the beautiful Mount Hood national forest area. So yet again, I win. Oh yeah, I won a hundred bucks too, you commented back, lol. Like your broke ass would ever be able to afford a hundred bucks. You'll comment again.
Stop lying you fuckin' liar!, you're a trailer park hillbilly and you don't own no two story Victorian home, like I told yo bitch ass, leave the 420 and the meth alone, cuz it's makin' you delusional, you look and sound stupid!, that raggedy ass bike on your page does not and is not anything special, it looks like an old ten speed that crackheads like you ride around on lookin' for dope to smoke lol, you aint won no 100 dollars, cuz I didn't pay you lol, you delusional faggot lol, I'm done loser
I've owned & seen GT & Diamond Back Mountain bikes that were more expensive than that piece of shit, you're a sucker point blank!, cuz you responded and commented to me with nothin' but haterism after 4 months!, SUCKER!, BITCH! LOLOLOL
Lol 4 months. Didn't know we'd been arguing that long. Oh, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T. And yeah, my bike pound for pound costs alot more than those two mountain bikes you named off, which aren't really that good to begin with. Norco, Muddy Fox, Deity, these are real bikes. My bike weighs MAYBE 10 pounds with the light and front break on it, and it's worth 1,100 dollars because the frame is a 1984 Trek 660 chromoly butted frame. And point blank? I'll put a machete to your head, point blank... bitch boy.
Shut up bitch!, plain and simple!, I didn't say WE were arguing for 4 months, I said you replied to my comments that were 4 months old!, maybe I should have said that clearly so your countrybunk, hillbilly faggot ass could have understood that, but the point is the same, fuck you, your raggedy ass bike, your Silverado, and your lifestyle you hillbilly honkey!, a machete to my head?, I'll beat the brakes off your bitch ass and have yo bitch ass runnin' down the street out of your shoes,,,
Oh I forgot, you already don't wear shoes you trailerpark hillbilly lol, shut the fuck up you ignorant, meth smokin' hillbilly before you get yo bitch ass beat, robbed, and shot out here on these REAL city streets! faggot!
working at a auto dealer who owns 4 lots, a GM, Dodge, Ford, and Chevy and having driven everything from GTO's, Mustang GT's, Zo6's, Chargers, whatever, the shelby GT500 is by far the superior car. with the right driver a GT500 will not lose to any LS1, hell even with a decent driver the GT500 wouldnt lose. facts are facts only way a LS1 is putting any lengths on a GT500 is if the GT500 is still in limp mode from the factory, and is only putting down like 300 hp. Certain conditions unlock it
LMAO!!! Stock for stock your NOT touching a new ZR1, not touching a C6 ZO6, prolly be real close with a C5 ZO6. With mods it would be different of course.
hate to tell you, but even thoe they are pricey, a GT 500 stock handles better and is faster than an 03-04, and GT 500s have much better potential for power to
Can't be legit. GT500, even with a craptastic launch,will simply walk a stock LS1 car.
testy462 10 months ago
@testy462 Should have yes. There are some BAD drivers out there lol
black93z28camaro 1 month ago
PT 2....Also, in the vid I wanna say I had over 100k miles on the Formula, if not it was damn close.
driftnsc3 1 year ago
@jeepstir69 and @TikondaRoga...I'm the guy that owned the Formula in the vid, its gone now but thought I would clear some things up for you 2. Both T/As and Formulas had a few different gearing options and according to the build codes on the car mine had 2.73 gears, not great for getting out the hole but as you can see I did just fine. Also, Formulas were ment to be "stripped" down T/As to cut back weight. Most had manual locks, windows, and solid roofs. Mine had power everything and t-tops.
driftnsc3 1 year ago
@driftnsc3 power windows weigh the same as manual......
Nater36 8 months ago
LEARN TO DRIVE YOUR OWN CAR DUMB ASS.... If your gong to have your daddy buy you a GT500 then learn how to drive/race. Or dont own one at all cuz your probably end up crashing it
DoggyB22 1 year ago
@DoggyB22
FUCK i want my daddy to buy me onee pleeeaasssee DAD
01manuelcasas 3 months ago
tht was no race. the gt500 wasnt even on it. tht was cruisin
osoevil94 1 year ago
Nice, it's even just a formula. Big gearing difference with a Trans Am.
TiKondaRoga 1 year ago
@TiKondaRoga
You are an idiot. The same gearing options were available for T/A's and Formula's! Formula's are actually much harder to find and much more collectable. "just a formula"...same powerplant, same gear options = do some research. For every 1 Formula out there, 10 Trans Ams were made.
jeepstir69 1 year ago
@jeepstir69 Huh weird...You know I did what you said, I did some research and guess what??? Formula 4 and 6 speeds come standard with 3.08 gears, with a 3.42 option. Where the T/A comes standard with 3.42's... Good call out dip shit.
TiKondaRoga 1 year ago
@jeepstir69 Oh btw the T/A also has 15more hp and 10 more tq than the Formula's...
TiKondaRoga 1 year ago
@TiKondaRoga wS6* because of the ram air intake. Trans Ams just have the body kit, so formulas are generally faster than trans ams by a hair. The WS6 is a tad faster though.
recoil080 11 months ago
that is pretty embarassing for the gt500 n every lil biased ford guy is going 2 say the gt500 knt shift o sumshit ls1 is still badass motor ... i personally luv the gt500 way better but when its in my price range ill gt it jajaja for now ill jus stik w the m6 t/a im getn n jan.
cienporcientoculopri 1 year ago
dats emberrasing 6k vs 50k lol ford suks
TJESUSX 1 year ago
Dude in the gt500 cant drive for shit
ad6speeds 1 year ago
Just an innocent question---I dont want to get between your ongoing dispute.What dp the electronics control in the carb ---- ?
is it some sort of position sensor ? or velocity measurement?
millwrightman99 2 years ago
The electronics control the choke, fuel metering cuz it has a mixture control solenoid that controls the air/fuel ratio in the carburetor, a throttle position sensor which tells the car's computer the position of the throttle, etc...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Very interesting thanks
millwrightman99 2 years ago
10 year old car vs. brand new Mustang. Hmm, not very even. The F Body probably has 100K miles more than the Stang too.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
You all got to remember ---- the unrivaled beauty of a big block chevy in an engine conpartment ---- First time I saw one at a tender age of 17 I was spoiled for life. In a 1968 Impala at that .The rumble made me hard for weeks.I've had lot's of others but none bring back the excitement of that first love.The simp[ycity was awe inspiring , the acceleration irrational-- the rumble orgasmic.
The end //////
millwrightman99 2 years ago
vayloc, if you've been long enough to "build" soo many 500hp n/a cars you should know about jon kaase and his n/a engines, or what about BES both recent ENGINE MASTERS CHAMPS both FORD BUILDS, move over smokey yunick here comes vayloc. wheres you Engine masters entry?
projectslo50 2 years ago
Where's your Engine Master's entry!?, cuz if I had not had mentioned magazines like GM High Tech Performance, Muscle Car Review, High Performance Pontiac, or Engine Master's, you wouldn't have known nothin' about it!, and yes, I've heard of John Kaase, I've heard of Steve Morris, Shafiroff, move over everybody, here comes projectslo50 with no entry at all lol, at least I've built something.
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Wow, and your name is projectslo lol, you dumb bitch, you clowned yourself on that one lol, and you're asking me about my Engine Master's entry, PROJECTSLO LOL...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
damn my respects to that old stock ls1 n/a and auto... that formula could stay with a new supercharged 500+ engine...
GT5Player 2 years ago
This vid shows how slow GT500s are!!!!lol
n20ls1 2 years ago
um u do realize that the gt500 won dont you....?
austind710 2 years ago
Yes, I'm not blind......... I'm just trying to say that the GT500 should have done better against the stock LS1 Formula. I think Ford should design a modern Cleveland style N/A motor to run with LS and Mopar powered cars.
n20ls1 2 years ago
I would fucking hope so
boondocksaint18 2 years ago
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I would fucking hope so .
boondocksaint18 2 years ago
due to the fact that the shelby is maybe 800 LBS heavier and has that SLA rear end and is only puttin out about 8 lbs of boost, and the fact that it was a stick i'd say it done a damn good job if they were to keep goin that shelby wouldve lapped that car
0akcliff 2 years ago
thats a gay formula not even a trans am formulas are slow but gt500 are slow as shit
hoss9177 2 years ago
Do you even know what a Formula is? Its the same thing as a Trans am but weighs less.
driftnsc3 2 years ago
formulas are slow? im running 12.9's on avg stock...lol i smoke modded trans am's (usually exhaust,air lid,and free mods)... you want to talk shit lets run em kid
formulafun00 2 years ago
Especially when I win a race against a car with a power adder. I've beaten some of them all. Supercharged, turbo, nitrous, you name it. Im not really knockin it but I do think it was kinda cheezy by Ford to force power with the SC. They really didnt have too now that they are using the 5.4 setup again. But hey, it is a pretty good car for stock. I cant wait to race one of these. I pull hard on the 03 models so I cant wait till I can find one in the area willing to run.
Gekidorain 2 years ago
Yeah I know this to be fact as well. Too many of them out there to deny it. Im a huge T/A fan and this race really went as it should. Stock for stock the mustang SHOULD win. Now, given the price difference between both cars, you could absolutely build an LS1 or LT1 that would beat this car for less than the cost of the stang. You are given the freedom of choice. And btw dont hate on N/A tuning. My formula is totally N/A and it gives me more of an appreciation for my car and myself.
Gekidorain 2 years ago
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Gekidorain 2 years ago
I know for a fact you can get 550+HP out of an N/A LS1 from experience. Ive seen N/A LS1 346 motors producing well over 600HP N/A so a 396 would push well over 700HP if you know what your doing. Its not easy but with the right head cam set up it is possible. I can see both sides of the arguement here and this conversation is like beating a dead horse...lol. Its all a matter of opinion. To each there own.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
and its alot different from reading in a magazine people "claiming" ya man i made 600 hp outta my 396!
than actually seeing it at the dyno shop.
94OJGT 2 years ago
Not only that, that magazine has a reputation to uphold, it would make them look bad when people can prove them liars, but I understand exactly what you're sayin' though, cuz I'm the type of person that believes in seeing it for myself, show me the money!, but then again, you would love to see those numbers?, go pick up the May 2009 issue of High Performance Pontiac!, & read all about it!, anytime your hp ratings EXCEED your cubic inches, that's true engineering!, it can be done!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I have and know what your talking about. Both Ford and GM have put FI on a cars in the present and the past. But your always going to hit a wall without a power adder. Yes you can get 1000HP out of a N/A BB V8 but where are you going to get the other 1000 HP if you wanted it. The HP numbers your saying are respectable numbers for being N/A but at some point everyone wants more.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
Yeah, you're right, you can't stop the next man from building his motor the way he wants, like I mentioned, I accept that, if a guy wants to put a power adder on his motor, hey, go for it, my thing is beating you naturally, but the majority of the time, you're not going to be able to activate your power adder when we meet in traffic or on the freeway, unless we're at the track, what can your motor do BEFORE activation of the power adder?, that's where the real competition lies, but I hear you
VayLoc310 2 years ago
First off "Vay" I agree with you to a point. N/A motors are a thing of the past now. Why go through all the trouble and money when you can have a FI. Even Top Fuel uses FI. Now if I was building a 71 Chevelle then yes what your saying makes sense. You just have an old school mentality about motors which is ok but I think its also being narrow minded. Horsepower is horsepower no matter what way you use to get it.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
Yeah, you're right on a lot of points, but let's face it, most of us are not racing in the NHRA, we're just street racers who like to build our cars according to your own taste, no problem, my only problem is when guys get on here & trash true engineering, Ford ain't no joke now!, but neither is GM, & it kinda pisses me off how guys brag about a car they paid for, & didn't have a part in the engineering of the product, but hey, I hear you tho...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
You say Naturally Aspirated motors are a thing of the past?, you need to go pick up a copy of Chevy High Performance, Engine Masters, Muscle Car Review, GM High Tech Performance, or High Performance Pontiac, cuz Natural Aspiration hasn't gone anywhere man, I've got an article where people put 600hp on a Mopar 408, 620hp on a smallblock 396 LT1, 435hp on a GM 305, 441hp on a GM 350, & all these applications are naturally aspirated!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Oh the Shelby GT500 is the best car in the world it can smoke the ZR1. The Shelby runs 8 sec 1/4 mile times 100 percent stock and has a top speed of 300mph...lol. Also I had a 93 5.0 Mustang and it ran a 10 sec 1/4 mile times with just an air filter....lol. Geez some of the comments left on here are so damn funny. Half of these comments on here are left by 16 yr old kids anyways so they wouldnt know better. Facts are facts and anyone who has actually been to a drag strip knows these facts.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
A 93 5.0 would need some serious engine work to run 12's. I had a 93 Cobra with a supercharger and it only ran mid 12's. You were lucky to see low 14's with a 93 5.0 and minor bolt ons. They are very light cars but I just dont believe it. Im not trying to get into a pissing contest im just stating what ive seen and done through experience. Ive owned an 89GT,93 Cobra, 02GT and an 03 Mach 1 in the past so ive I know what certain Mustangs are capable of. The 03 Mach 1 ran low to mid 13's stock.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
I still disagree with you but you have a right to your own opinion. A stock Z06 will run in the 11's stock and there is no stock Shelby GT500 that will do that. A Zo6 is an all around better car IMO. All the stock GT500's ive seen in FL run in the high 12's stock with an average driver. All the tracks here are at or below sea level also. But I will say that the Shelby has a ton of potential and the motors are great.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
A Z06 would walk a stock Shelby GT500easily in every way..High 12's is not hard to achieve with a minor bolt on LS1. Just because you work for an Auto Dealer dosnt mean you know everything about every type of car.
Fasttws6 2 years ago
a stock zo6 will NOT beat a stock GT500, sorry. a stock gt500 runs 12.3 not high 12's as u state. im talking stock for stock, modding any car can easily even the playing field and yes a modded zo6 should beat a gt500. but i will say i do know more about cars than most, since i have gotten to drive hard alot of cars most do not. besides my 93 5.0 ran high 12's easily with minor boltons, 12's are easy.
moral of story gt500>zo6 stock
whtbullitt 2 years ago
A modded and stock ZO6 will smoke a GT500 point blank!, without the supercharger, the GT500 does not stand a chance, a stock ZO6 is runnin' high 11's, low 12's at over 120mph!, there's no way a Mustang which was intended to compete against the Camaro, which is a DETUNED Corvette, can beat a super lightweight Corvette, the Mustang is always a heavy car, and the only reason why some Mustangs beat Camaros is cuz some Camaros still come from the factory with a tall, highway gear for the fuel economy
VayLoc310 2 years ago
nice reason why a stock cobra will beat stock camaros but i am calling bullshit the cobra has a taller 6th gear so find another reason why!
braddfordy 2 years ago
It don't matter, the Cobra needs the forced induction and the taller 6th gear since you spoke on that, WITHOUT THE SUPERCHARGER, THE FORGED BOTTOM END, the Cobra wouldn't stand a chance against a stock Z06 or even an LS1, LS2, LS7, OR AN LT4, which was 330hp, 13 secs at 109mph!,N/A, only thing wrong with the CAMARO'S LS1 IS THE HEADS ARE DETUNED, THE CORVETTE'S LS1 HEADS WERE WORTH 45 MORE HP!, & LIKE I SAID, THEY CAME WITH WEAK REAR ENDS & FACTORY TALL HIGHWAY GEARS...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
i dont wanna shit about detuned and all of this other bs fact is the cobra has s/c stock vs stock cobra wins as far as a taller gear that was to get better mpg not speed so try again jack
braddfordy 2 years ago
Why don't you come with a better argument, you can't deny or refute the facts I'm speaking, and no, the Cobra does not always win, cuz I've seen STOCK NATURALLY ASPIRATED CORVETTES LEAVE COBRAS CHOKIN' ON CLEAN EXHAUST FUMES!, SAVE IT!, we all know the the 6th gear is an overdrive gear for fuel economy, I told you that in my 1st reply, & the 6th gear barely adds any speed, why do you think the speedometer barely moves when 6th gear is activated, cuz it's a small gear, bringin' engine RPM down...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
i didnt know that the vette came in a ss package because we went from the camaro to the vette yes the vette is a better car be we all cant buy a vette. u said that some camaros come with taller gears that why mustangs outrun them thats what you said try your comments again bubba and then read mine or have somebody read them for you
braddfordy 2 years ago
I never said anything about a Corvette coming in an SS package, the bottom line is your Cobra needs the assistance of the supercharger point blank!, I will build a motor from scratch, a 350, shit, I'll build a 305 and put 350 to 400hp on that 305 and roast you, since the Mustang's 4.6L 280 some cubic inch engine is smaller than the Chevy 305 and show you real hp at it's finest!, like I said, stop bragging about a car you paid for and you didn't do any of the work!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
You sound like a young, 15 year old who obviously knows nothin' about high performance, your weakest gears are 6th/overdrive, and reverse, I never said anything about 6th gear adding speed, you bragged that the 6th gear was taller, you IMPLIED that was the reason why the Cobra beats the Camaro, you don't know what you're talkin' about man, you just shitted on yourself and I definitely would shit on you when I'm done with this 84 Monte Carlo and an 86 IROC Z...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I'll put over 400hp on an L98 350 NATURALLY ASPIRATED, with the stock cast iron crank and forged steel rods while your Cobra is strugging to attain those numbers with help of a forged bottom end & S/C!, while I hear your S/C whining as I pass you, and I'm still ridin' on the primaries of the carburetor!, I haven't open the secondaries yet!, that's real high performance, I don't care if the Mustang comes stock with a S/C, that's coo, but not impressive, forced induction adding hp is a no brainer!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
people choose how they wanna make hp , just bc you dont like how they do it doesnt make them less of a person your just mad these stangs are busting your ass
braddfordy 2 years ago
I'm not mad nor am I knockin' how people choose to build hp, I just can't stand it when people like you sound like a cheerleader and brag about a car with a supercharger on it, that is not impressive like I said earlier, anybody can put a supercharger, turbocharger, or nitrous on a motor and of course it's going to add hp, NO MUSTANG HAS EVA BUSTED MY ASS, I WAS KILLIN' ALL MUSTANGS I EVER RACED WITH MY STOCK 700R4 TRANSMISSION AND L98 350, ALL I HAD TO DO WAS CHANGE THE GEAR...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Try building that same 400 or 500hp naturally aspirated, FROM SCRATCH!, LIKE I DO, THEN YOU CAN TALK TO ME!, DON'T COME HERE AND BRAG ABOUT A CAR YOU PAID FOR THAT CAME FROM THE FACTORY WITH A SUPERCHARGER AND YOU DID NONE OF THE WORK!, YOU'RE LUCKY FORD DID ALL THE WORK FOR YOU, LIKE I SAID, BUILD THAT HP NATURALLY ASPIRATED, THEN YOU'VE GOT SOMETHIN' TO BRAG TO ME ABOUT!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
LOL struggling? kidding me
stock 03-04 cobras usually dyno newhere from 360-390 to the WHEELS buddy
exhaust/pull/tune = 500rwhp for these cars. and FI is a no brainer? yeah likes real hard to stroke a motor and bolt some heads on a N/A motor lol
94OJGT 2 years ago
I don't care how much 03-04 Cobras dyno, the LS2 is dynoing at 400hp at the wheels so what are you sayin'?, & the LS7 is dynoing WAYYY PAST that at the wheels with the 505 rating at the crank!, & yes, adding Forced Induction is a no brainer, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it adds more hp using the principle of forced air, or bolt it on, tune the boost, and go, & it's not hard to bore and stroke an engine block, like I said, the Vette's LS1 heads were worth 45hp by themselves!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
yeah go ahead bolt on a turbo c what happens when u dont know what ur doing lol..
94OJGT 2 years ago
I wouldn't do anything that stupid without beefing up the engine with a forged or billet rotating assembly, & bore and stroking the block, if you paid any attention to what I typed, you would see I'm talking about natural aspiration, which is where TRUE horsepower lies!, you sound like the type of person who doesn't know what you're doing, but then again, you've got to be kidding cuz I know you couldn't be that stupid, but I'll be more than happy to laugh when you break rods in the street lol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
yeah okay. u stick to ur n/a "true" hp
ill stick to a hellion kit with smaller cubes, love to see you make 900+rwhp with a n/a set up buddy :) please show me LOL
and if you knew what u were doing u WOULD get fi for any serious racer.
nitrous or FI is the ONLY way to get serious power. so PLEASE read a book? for all of us. lol
94OJGT 2 years ago
You're not racing in the NHRA man, Forced Induction is the wave of the future & the present, but don't trash Natural Aspiration, cuz bragging about a force inducted motor is not impressive, anybody can bolt on a S/C, Nitrous, etc, & add power, like I said, that's a no brainer, go put that same 6-700hp on a N/A smallblock 396 LT1 that your forced inducted 4.6 or 5.4 is doing with the supercharger, then holla at me!, better yet, go pick up a copy of Chevy High Performance!, go read that book!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
i would LOVE to see a dyno sheet of a 396 LT1 with 700hp LOL
honestly show me a dyno sheet by the motor or a video clip.
and i will take back everything i said.
only motors i've heard of gettin that hp are 600+ci motors with insane lift cams and crazy tunes.
94OJGT 2 years ago
Man, you really are in the dark & you don't know shit about building horsepower!, you're embarrassing yourself to say the only motors you've heard of outputting 600+hp are 600 cubic inch motors?, if a smallblock Nascar 358 is outputting 900hp, and an NHRA 500 some cubic inch big block is outputting 8,000hp, then a 600 cu in big block outputting ONLY 600hp is an embarrassment!, a reputable magazine like the ones I mentioned ARE NOT going to lie, cuz they run the risk of being sued!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I've seen Cobras get smoked by stock Z06's and C5R, C5, & C6 Vettes, if the Vette's LS1 heads were 45hp by themselves, what do you think an intake manifold & cam will do?, & remember, the LS1 is old technology now!, so what do you think aftermarket heads for an LS2, LS3, LS7, or an LSX will do?, all that is BEFORE forced induction!, people can put heads, intake, & cam on old generation 3-4 350 blocks and get damn near AND OVER 400hp NATURALLY ASPIRATED!, so go ahead, U need the S/C for your ford
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Don't let me replace the 2:73 with a 3:27, 3:42, no bigger than a 3:54 or even a 3:90 gear, cuz if I did, Cobra would be smellin' my exhaust in combo with the Corvette heads!, like I said, the LT4 Camaro SS was 13 secs at 109mph, the Mustang is barely gettin' past 100mph with the same times!, no Mustang of that time or now is cuttin' those times, & if it was, the supercharger is activated!, & there's no way any Mustang is beating a ZO6 with the LS7, Cobra needs the S/C to achieve those numbers!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
sorry bro a stock zo6 will jump all over a stock gt500 and i like mustangs
braddfordy 2 years ago
You sound like a fuckin' idiot!, there's no way in the world a punk ass 4.6L, 280 some cubic inch engine is going to beat a 7.0L smallblock 427 layin' down over 500hp!, are you kidding me?
VayLoc310 2 years ago
real hp? When clevelands come to play, chevy runs away. Ford shoud go back to push rods just to shut all you wining chevy guys up. Shit an old 351w is is much better than an ls1 by far. But modular engines have proved time and time again to be just as good if not better. Example, 1000hp lsx turbo vette would have more power na over a 5.4l, but there are 1500hp turbo ford gt's on the same engine. pushrods have that na option, modular for boost, so stop crying all of the time. 427w 550hp!!!
hugoloves2spooge 2 years ago
Don't flatter yourself homeboy!, cuz I've never seen Chevy run from a Ford 351 Cleveland, I've seen Chevy big block 396's, L72, L88, & ZL1 427's, smallblock L79 327's, Chevy 302's, 1970 LT1's blow 351 Cleveland's & Cobra Jet 428's out of the water!, so how are we Chevy guys whining when the LS7 smallblock 427 is outputting over 500 naturally aspirated hp?
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Shit I've seen sbf's beat big block chevy's, and chevy 302's? Don't get me started on who built the best 302. so why not flatter myself. You all whine about the 03-04 cobra supercharger beacause it beats the f body, and even the new shitty camaro. 500hp really isn't that great for a 427 really. shit, 347 can do that na.
hugoloves2spooge 2 years ago
Chevy built the best 302!, in the 1969 Chevy Camaro Z28, it was rpo coded DZ302 and since you say a 427 isn't that great for outputting only 500hp, the fact that it's a SMALLBLOCK 427 outputting more hp than it's cubic inch engine size shows it surpasses the 1 hp per cubic inch performance rule, & like I said before, a supercharged motor is nothing spectacular, it's a no brainer a force inducted engine produces more hp, and yes, I've built Chevy 350's outputting 500hp+!, naturally aspirated!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Hey Vayloc, 2 things. First, your mom. Second? Chevy is better regardless of which one's faster.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
First of all, you need to shut the fuck up and stop smokin' all that 420 cuz it's got you delusional, for one thing, you should be agreeing with me cuz I am a Chevy man, but like I said, all that bullshit, dirt, wannabe Kush 420 you're smokin' has got your lil pea brain clouded, I feel sorry for your mother who gave birth to an ignorant ass youtube idiot lol, BITCH lolol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Wow, lol looks like I struck a nerve. Oh, and don't be jealous that I smoke more pot than a Jamaican. You drink? Yeah, that's shit's more dangerous than bud, faggot. And do you own a car, there little buddy? A Honda, perhaps?
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
You little bitch, you could never smoke more weed than a Jamaican, they're not called Rastah kings for nothin', and you don't have that kind of money to buy and smoke pounds at a time faggot!, and no, I don't drive imports!, I drive an 84 Monte Carlo SS, BUILT FROM SCRATCH, and I'm modifying an 86 IROC too, and I'll dust that lil faggot ass pustang you probably have when I'm done modifying the same L98 350 the car came with, and I'm not talking about no easy ass bolt-ons!, sucker!, bitch, lol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Haha, I own a 1990 Chevrolet Silverado 2WD extended cab with a mean thumpin Goodwrench 350, and a 383 stroker cam with the heads and all. Lol, Mustangs are for children, as are Camaros. I'm a working man with a truck, so beat it little buddy. I actually have a video proving what I own. What videos do you have up proving what you got? Not that hard to find a camera and a couple of minutes, there faggot.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up you dumbass lol, see, that's what I'm talkin' about, that 420 has got you on stupid!, like a weird ass witch doctor lol, why would you even mention a punk ass Silverado!, yeah, you had to drop in a Goodwrench 350 I ain't mad atcha on that one, but you should have dropped that engine in a Camaro or Firebird or somethin', cuz grown men drive them cars,a truck is not known for any performance, a truck is nowhere near a musclecar, and I'm 34 years old, and I'm a working man bitch!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
You should have dropped in a ZZ454 or ZZ502 in that truck dumbass!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
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420witchdoctor 2 years ago
I didn't assume anything, I told you what you had after you confirmed, and you just lied, you said the truck came with a stock 350 and you installed the 383 stroker cam in it, but earlier, you said you dropped in a Goodwrench 350, which is a crate motor dummy!, & droppin' built Chevy engines in Datsun 240Z's is common out here in L.A. cuz that's what my father, uncle's, and all the street racers did, shit, I would leave you in the dust smellin' my clean flowmaster exhaust fumes...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I would be 2 car lengths ahead of you when I TAP the gas, & I'm still riding on the primaries of the Q-Jet lol, not even 1/4 throttle!, I don't need a Barry Grant Demon, Edelbrock, or Holley Dominator 4150 or whatever carburetor to beat you!, I'll whip your ass with this modified, rebuilt Q-Jet LOL
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Haha, OK so where's your video of it, then? Oh yeah, you don't have a car and are making this up.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
I don't have to prove shit to you!, right now, my concern is not a video camera, I'm too busy concentrating on building these hot rods, and that's where my money is going, I don't care about no video games, no clothes, shoes, computer's, none of that!, tomorrow, I'm going to pick-a-part to get a steering column, console, & floor shift for the Monte Carlo, then I'm gonna go to my folks house, pull the intake & carburetor off to replace gaskets, go look at my profile pic & see what I've done!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I don't care about your video about your truck!, don't you worry though, cuz when I feel like buyin' a video camera, you will be the 1st to see how I get down!, you youtube clown!, & besides, you're lying anyway, cuz first you said you dropped a Goodwrench 350 & 383 cam in your truck, then you turned around & said the truck came with a stock 350 & you put the 383 cam in that!, whatever, like I said Mr. weird, witch doctor, put the weed down & clear your brains for a minute lol.
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I've already won, and now I'm blocking you because your mom stinks.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
I won you punk bitch, cuz you blocked me which shows I shut you down you ignorant, countrybunk cracker lol, fuck your redneck mom too faggot, stop smokin' that dirt and meth with her too lol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Lol, then how are you replying? Huh bitch? And yeah, you don't have a video to prove what you got, so I'm calling bullshit and I'm calling you a liar until you prove what you own. Hands down, simple as that. Anyone can spout off a whole bunch of shit on a YouTube comment box, but 90% of people who do that only wish they had what's spewing forth from their cockholsters. You're gay!
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Why did you reply in the first place faggot?, nobody asked you for you opinion, you're full of shit, that's why you're callin' bullshit you bitch ass whore, YOU'RE GAY, cuz you're offended cuz I clowned you and shut yo stupid, meth smokin', countrybunk ass down, BITCH!, like I said, stop sharing the meth bong with your mother lol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Lol, again, WHERE'S YOUR VIDEO PUNK? And meth is what faggot little queers from the city do. We smoke weed and drink beer out here in the coutry, motherfucker. Of course, your drug-induced retardedness needs to be corrected sometimes, and that's why I'm here, lol. I can bet a hundred bucks you'll reply to this post too. A hundred fuckin bucks.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
I don't have nothin' to prove to you you countrybunk faggot!, like I told yo bitch ass before, go look at my profile pic see my work, I rebuilt an electronic, computer controlled Q-Jet carburetor & that's not even a 1/4 of my work, & THE CARBURETOR IS MODIFIED!, you correcting me is far from your capabilities you hypocrite ass liar, cuz you lied about installing a 383 cam in a Goodwrench 350 motor & then you turned around & said you put the cam in the stock 350 the truck came with LIAR LOL...
VayLoc310 2 years ago
And we blacks don't smoke meth out here in the city, we drink Hennessy, Belvedere & smoke KUSH faggot, your countrybunk ass ain't smokin' no weed, you're smokin' meth you fag, you didn't prove me wrong, all you did was brag to me about your faggot ass Silverado with an engine & cam you don't even have lol, woopty doo, while I've been tellin' everybody here how to build naturally aspirated hp with what you have, faggot, wow, you're the shit cuz you bought a motor & put it in your truck lol, wow!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
You have the nerve to say somebody is drug induced retarded, take a look at your screename faggot! point proven!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
You fuckin' hillbilly, trailer park, white trash delusional drug addict lol, you have the nerve to TRY to correct somebody but you have a video of a raggedy ass old ten speed bike on your page lol, you fuckin' trailer park hillbilly, yeah, all y'ou counrtybunk hillbillies do is drink beer & drive a bitch, raggedy ass Silverado lol
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Haha, raggedy ass ten speed? More like beautiful expensive fixed gear velodrome bike. And my truck has less than a hundred thousand miles on it, so it drives like it's brand new. And trailer park? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I OWN a two-story, cinder brick Victorian home in the beautiful Mount Hood national forest area. So yet again, I win. Oh yeah, I won a hundred bucks too, you commented back, lol. Like your broke ass would ever be able to afford a hundred bucks. You'll comment again.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Stop lying you fuckin' liar!, you're a trailer park hillbilly and you don't own no two story Victorian home, like I told yo bitch ass, leave the 420 and the meth alone, cuz it's makin' you delusional, you look and sound stupid!, that raggedy ass bike on your page does not and is not anything special, it looks like an old ten speed that crackheads like you ride around on lookin' for dope to smoke lol, you aint won no 100 dollars, cuz I didn't pay you lol, you delusional faggot lol, I'm done loser
VayLoc310 2 years ago
I've owned & seen GT & Diamond Back Mountain bikes that were more expensive than that piece of shit, you're a sucker point blank!, cuz you responded and commented to me with nothin' but haterism after 4 months!, SUCKER!, BITCH! LOLOLOL
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Lol 4 months. Didn't know we'd been arguing that long. Oh, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T. And yeah, my bike pound for pound costs alot more than those two mountain bikes you named off, which aren't really that good to begin with. Norco, Muddy Fox, Deity, these are real bikes. My bike weighs MAYBE 10 pounds with the light and front break on it, and it's worth 1,100 dollars because the frame is a 1984 Trek 660 chromoly butted frame. And point blank? I'll put a machete to your head, point blank... bitch boy.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Shut up bitch!, plain and simple!, I didn't say WE were arguing for 4 months, I said you replied to my comments that were 4 months old!, maybe I should have said that clearly so your countrybunk, hillbilly faggot ass could have understood that, but the point is the same, fuck you, your raggedy ass bike, your Silverado, and your lifestyle you hillbilly honkey!, a machete to my head?, I'll beat the brakes off your bitch ass and have yo bitch ass runnin' down the street out of your shoes,,,
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Oh I forgot, you already don't wear shoes you trailerpark hillbilly lol, shut the fuck up you ignorant, meth smokin' hillbilly before you get yo bitch ass beat, robbed, and shot out here on these REAL city streets! faggot!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Lol, shhhh.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Shut up bitch! point blank!
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Shh.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
Shut up bitch!, you have officially been shut down!, I rest my case! next....
VayLoc310 2 years ago
Lol, shhh.
420witchdoctor 2 years ago
working at a auto dealer who owns 4 lots, a GM, Dodge, Ford, and Chevy and having driven everything from GTO's, Mustang GT's, Zo6's, Chargers, whatever, the shelby GT500 is by far the superior car. with the right driver a GT500 will not lose to any LS1, hell even with a decent driver the GT500 wouldnt lose. facts are facts only way a LS1 is putting any lengths on a GT500 is if the GT500 is still in limp mode from the factory, and is only putting down like 300 hp. Certain conditions unlock it
whtbullitt 2 years ago
this race is so much bullshit
kx125dude87 2 years ago
Why is it so much bullshit? He beat me. You should of seen the week proir where I put 4 cars on him from a roll and 5 cars from a dig.
driftnsc3 2 years ago
i got a supercharged ls1, it would murder that gt500
UndergroundJake 3 years ago 2
a stock one. race one with a 2.6 pulley and full bolt ons on. they make over 650 rwhp.
santiagomel00 3 years ago 2
I have an ls1 camaro ss had no problem destroying a GT 500.
melogixxer 3 years ago
yeah right!
mitchellgriffin01 3 years ago
That's funny.
iceguy2003 2 years ago 2
the guy in the gt500 dose not know how to drive cause I have one and i beat the fastest stock corvette
fordgt700hp 3 years ago
LMAO!!! Stock for stock your NOT touching a new ZR1, not touching a C6 ZO6, prolly be real close with a C5 ZO6. With mods it would be different of course.
driftnsc3 3 years ago 4
it wasnt punched lol. i drove it. its a great job btw haha.
therichardslanger 3 years ago
ahha he barely pulled the stock ls1. rofl. and that kid paid for someone to drive his car. wow.......
atekido 3 years ago
You've obviously never raced before. That was a hardcore walking.
CJDUBstang 3 years ago
surely didn't look like it was punched.
tramotorsports 3 years ago
wheres the 18 yo kid work to be able to pay someone to drive his GT500?!
stylezunknown 3 years ago
Formula owner here....he works for his dad.
driftnsc3 3 years ago
time to sell the overpriced pos and buy an 03-04 cobra,
cobra4me 3 years ago
hate to tell you, but even thoe they are pricey, a GT 500 stock handles better and is faster than an 03-04, and GT 500s have much better potential for power to
2007ShelbyCobra 3 years ago
that gt500 is weak...all that money and didnt pull for shat
Eric3096 3 years ago