Domestic Debate - Education: Does poor performance in sch...

[pancakefactoryxl]

The main fault with the school systems is that they buckle under pressure from parents too much who are in denial that their children are not special. Other countries' school systems are very strict and demand discipline. That's why all this money we dump into the school systems doesn't do enough. That's like trying to cut open a coconut with gold plated spoon.

[pancakefactoryxl]

@Giriknco There are definitely some stupid people out there with who have graduate degrees. Although those people might lack common sense (even just normal intelligence, sometimes) they usually compensate for their faults by working their tail off in life. I'm just saying that education is a three way street for teachers, students and parents. Not all of the blame should fall on the schools. I guarantee you teachers are tired of being being blamed for the terrible grades of lazy children.

[pancakefactoryxl]

Schools have kids in class for 7 hours a day, they assign these kids homework, they send kids to ISS when they're bad. What else can they do? It's up to the parents to make their kids study and do homework and stop playing xbox and joining gangs. Remedial classes should be reserved for retarded kids considering academic classes are so easy as it is. DO HOMEWORK AND PRACTICE PROBLEMS AND YOU'LL DO WELL IN SCHOOL! DON'T ALWAYS BLAME THE TEACHERS!

[Giriknco]

@pancakefactoryxl its not just about doing hw. its about actually educating the child. i know of ppl who graduate from the top universities and are idiots outside of their feild. children need to learn to critically think and do more than repeat a problem.

[xfvkemosx]

i love being a history major and having to take a math class or science class what kind of bullshit

[bar730]

What your government wants,your government gets.....Doesn't anyone wonder why in 13 years of public schooling we are never given one class on the fundamental basics on how our monetary system works?Where does the value come from?Who controls the money supply?It would only take one class for even the worst students to understand.

[EnigmaClips]

You must of skipped economics :\

[bar730]

I didn't skip economics,yet was never taught the federal reserve was a private bank owned by international bankers.I was never taught the fundamental basics of fractional reserve banking.They taught us how to balance a check book and about interest rates.I think the previous information would have been much more helpful.

[goldensleeves]

Well, bar730, here's what I suggest... Now that you've learned more about what seems to be important, you have a choice...

You can spread the knowledge. If you have children, be sure that you tell them THE WHOLE TRUTH of what you've learned.

If you don't have children, you can tell others about it too. We con't assume anyone knows what we know (we can't assume they don't either). All I'm saying is, whether someone has a Ph.D or a H.S. diploma, there's something they weren't taught...

[josejloayza]

I have received many mail congratulating me to mention INTERNATIONAL LAW it prohibits to paid more than 25 to 40 percent of their salaries in hypothecary loans. Thanks to this information thousands of people they won't lose their houses. Many Banks try to renegotiate changing the mortgage for CONTRACT OF DEBT that is another thing, care. Help me to diffuse this information.

Google: LEY MAXIMA CUOTA A PAGAR EN INTERES HIPOTECARIO

Don't renegotiate, alone they apply the law.

[xfvkemosx]

i had history economics in highschool studied laissez fair & progressive capitalism and the sub schools of each

yeah laissez fair sucks btw gilded age=the fail

[whoo689]

Plus, our public school curricula in middle and HS is way out of date. It was created to help us win the Cold War, esp. the Space Race. Those two events have been over for quite some time. Isn't it time to reform our system of credits and class requirements for the 21st-Century?

[cmylaw]

well, what is your take on the whole address to student loans and student aide for higher education?

[whoo689]

What's the point of teaching a bunch of students probably only 20% of them in the class will go on to use in the future regularly?? Only a fraction of kids go on to be engineers, for example. Yet the teachers might tell you BS about how all this advanced math helps you learn to think critically or some other explanation. That may be true, but do you REALLY need to have us sit in class hours on end learning a bunch of stuff we won't even use to do that? Seems very wasteful to me.

[whoo689]

Crap like art classes for those who aren't artistic nor give 2 shits. Or 4 years of English for those who already good enough at writing essays, esp. since English class in public U.S. schools is really more of a Lit. class. How often do high schools and middle schools really talk about grammar in English? Not often, if my schools were any indication. Hell, I only learned about the technical grammar terms like "genitive" after I started taking Latin.

[whoo689]

Students need curricula and classes tailored to their specific individual needs and interests and goals for the future. If you're political as a student, why not take classes that will prepare you early on for politics and a poli-sci degree, like I'm getting right now? If you're into reporting, why not offer some kind of high school-level journalism classes?

Of course we need stuff like Chemistry, grammar, etc., but let's not obsess about electives.  And advanced math, most people don't use

[whoo689]

All the big issues like health care and education should be decentralized and given back to the states. The federal gov't doesn't know its head from its ass. Why should we trust that they'll do a good job on big issues like this? They've failed for more than 30 years in getting major reforms passed. The Dept. of Education is a failure. Abolish it and let states' rights rule. States and localities are closer to the people and know what the people want and need, not the feds.

[whoo689]

We also need to depoliticize public schools and curricula. We need to let teachers have more freedom in determining good curricula, not the higher-ups. Parents and students need more of a say, too. After all, why is it that everyone BUT the students gets to make all the important education decisions? Seems a little unfair, if you ask me.

Europe, for example, is much more specialized in hs and college for students. They don't have to take a bunch of useless classes just to graduate.

[whoo689]

Both candidates just don't get it: The problem is not "We're spending too little" on education or that we're not getting high-quality teachers; the problem is the public school SYSTEM itself! It's far too regulated and beholden to teachers' unions. Look at our colleges, even public ones. Those are top worldwide schools. Yet our K-12 sucks balls. Why?? Is it really b/c we're not "spending enough" or somehow we're not getting good teachers? No! It's that the federal gov't has taken control.

[whoo689]

We've seen through numerous studies that the amount of money invested in education has little real effect since we throw more and more money at the problem, but kids' grades and test scores are still low in many areas. It's pathetic. We need to decentralize education and give control back to states and localities, first. There can be no "one-size-fits-all" policy. It just doesn't work. Each local area and state is different. They have diff. ways they can experiment and get results.

[XxxS4F4RIGRLxxX]

Wow John McCain, I didn't know your support group were the KKK!!! LMAO XD

[James666146]

fuck obama.the little stupid nigger wont even get in office.roflroflroflroflrofl..t­here that piss you youtube fucks off? cause all i see is the same little fucking kids talking about McCain like hes shit.so fuck you.and fuck obama.

[fosterpup]

Obama is a Communist

[hellowjp]

Obama is the man.

[rose18228]

McCain/Palin

[Doobz519]

obama for the win!