TaiChi 太極推手比賽

[joylaval]

last round the black belt guy's arm was hurt by the red belt and the competition stopped.

very wonderful push hands skill show.

[FarP321]

very impressive

[EBgel]

这才是真正的太极。 典型的太极摔法，跟柔道、散打的摔法很不一样的。

就是没打起来~观赏性不够 不过这本来就是推手

[w4seasons]

For those who don't know about, please refer to another video clip title : " Push Hand 80-kg up " The "smaller" master of that clip and the white shirt team in this clip, both came from the Chen Village.

[ChenjiagouEurope]

真正好的太极拳 比“摔法“ 不怕柔道, 摔跤! 比“打法“ 陈家沟 散打拿金牌的人一堆 „擒拿“更是太极拳的强项 这才是实实在在的好太极拳!

最烂的是只懂的空谈“四两拨千斤, 借力打力“ 实际上别人用蛮力 他就应付不来的那种 „太极高手“ 简直就是阻碍太极拳的发展!

[ChenjiagouEurope]

推手比赛与传统推手不同, 同时禁止 “打击“ 与 “擒拿“ 因此只剩下 “摔法“可用. 因此常常让不懂太极拳的人误解 批评为柔道…. 殊不知柔道, 柔术与合气道发缘於中国太极的部分原理!  如今居然说太极推手为柔道! 真是指鹿为马 把黄金当铜矿, 可悲矣!

[dog523178]

1:12~14那個藍色衣服最好笑,他在做太極的型態

[shaketheworld]

very bautiful stuff you should teach in america

[amdrahcir]

這是摔角大賽吧？

[zus08]

根本是槓桿完理鬥搶重心的摔拿技,遇著柔道或蒙古摔相信要叫娘多­生幾條脊骨了.

[danielkeung]

They proud of their Judo techniques or TaiChi tehniques?

[whiddershins]

Fantastic video. Wish we could have more competitions like this in the states.

[NorthernVictory]

These techniques would be very useful in Thai boxing where the focus is to control the arm, shoulder, and elbow joint.

Thank you for posting very good Taijiquan.

[ForwardIntent]

chinese kung fu is the best

[davidlin0219a]

我以前所學的太極拳比賽，是膝蓋以上著地才算得分。

這個比賽，跟我以前所學的一樣。

至於摔、打、截、拿、抓、閉，有人看不慣，那也只能說，他們沒見­過，被自家的規矩綁死了。（通常不能打，也不能列，否則會死人的­）



[sywaddr1]

體能上比年輕人差

技術上又無法防制

姿勢放高架卻無法鬆沉

當然輸囉!!!!!

最後一場自家遊戲就看出真功夫在那了!!!!!

[AutoTok]

给那些不懂太极推手的人。。

不知道就别装懂。。。



[momomomomo135]

5:21 根本就係摔跤

[jimanHK]

it does not look like pushing hands,more like judo,if all the guys would not have allowed the white t-shirt guy come to close,then a different story

[hellopendejos]

@jimanHK More like Judo is like Taichi. A standing throw in Judo is called tachi-waza.

[david66lenovo]

不知所為, 玩太極玩到鬥氣鬥力, 攬埋一舊咁, 不如玩摔跤.........

什麼用意不用力, 四両撥千斤通通見唔都, 我只係見識到"拉, 扯, 頂, 撐, 死纏, 死推........唉呢啲所為太極推手, 只係後生仔有氣有力先做到, 到你年紀一大.......嘻嘻.....

[shopperman2007]

i liked the lesson in humility in the last round.

[Thailearner]

skytte71, are you in the white team that defeat opponents in this video. You're right, actually, I haven't seen the competition Tuishou before. About your Master is the direct decendant of GM Tung Ying Chieh, right? GM Tung Ying Chieh is very well known in Thailand. Anyway, nice to know you.

[skytte71]

@Thailearner #LOL sorry, i misunderstood you, about "the white". i thought you meant my skin colour, but instead you meant the white t-shirt. No i have nothing to do with this video :-)

Yes, GM Tung Ying Chieh. ;-)

I have done competition tuishou before, and the rules here in Denmark looks very similar to the rules in this video.

I agree with you, that this kind of tuishou in some aspects could look like judo. But if you look closely, you can see taiji techniques and principles being used.

Peace

[ForwardIntent]

GREAT!

[Thailearner]

Yeah, it's my less experience on Tai ji. Where's the white come from? And who is theire master?

[skytte71]

@Thailearner I guess you must refer to me. And if you're being ironic about the less experience. Then let me tell you that you may have experience on practising Taiji and doing friendly tuishou. But my guess is that you have none practical experience with competition tuishou. Because then you would see what i, and others see!

Denmark. My master was Tung Kai Ying, his father was Tung Hu Ling who was a famous tuishou practioner. You have a subscriber who uses the picture of Tung Hu Ling, as avatar

[w4seasons]

@Thailearner

The white shirt team, as far as I know, they have been trained from Chen Jia Gou. In fact, many have not seen such good technics before.

[w4seasons]

@Thailearner :_ The white shirt team came from Chen Jia Gou. In fact many have not seen such good technics before.

[iusnokia3350]

柔道比賽應該穿柔道服才對，他們穿的太隨便了

[NagerGoogle]

白衣很明顯犯規～推手規則不能勾腳，這樣他乾脆去打柔道好了

[juin0921]

似乎看不到有太極在裡面

[kk723456789]

摔交嗎?

好無內家功神韻......太極係咁既咩..@_@

[wenyi9999]

太極=柔道跟摔角麼,那麼豬木跟馬場是不是也算太極高手,過肩摔­跟拋摔是不是不應該列入得分標準呢

[judobudo666]

很有摔跤性質

[shenju1990]

是誰在練太極~~風生水起~~

[WangChangAn]

happy new year.!

[Thailearner]

Actually, why the real master don't show the real Tai ji fighting for the world.

[Thailearner]

Just doubt that if the white fight like this when he face with the opponent who more weight than him, how he can beat with small force and leverage other? I didn't see any thing that comply with Tai ji principle! It's just face to face, and why it needs to limit the weight of two fighters?

If it need to have such limitation and fighting like this, it's not the real Taiji!

[skytte71]

@Thailearner I'f you can't see it. Then maybe you don't want to see it, or don't know how to see it. Or aren't ready to see it...

Its obviously that these fights has very good Tai chi elements in it, and yes there are plenty Tai Chi principles being used!

[sylvester134]

real tai chi fight

[race2max]

i dont see any push hands whatsoever where is the internal power, this is nothing but judo,grecko roman wrestling techniques

[anhkhoinguyen]

what a ignorant comment, judo and grco roman techniques? if you do your home work all grappling styles have similar techniques, humans all have two arms n legs all techniques that work are only all going look alike to be effective....every move in judo or western wrestling are all in chinese wrestling shuai chao. taijiquan isnt about a set pattern of techniques, its about using the oppoents force and off balancing them which these guys are doin. push hands in a drill they do in practise.

[skytte71]

@anhkhoinguyen i agree 100%

I have trained Judo, and Tai chi, and while i find that the techniques, for the most part are different. Some/many techniques are also similar.

When you compare the principles, they are much more similar/alike.: keeping a low gravity, and a good balanced center, and reversing the opponents force against themselves.

[WarriorBoy]

What an incredible video! That one guy in the black and white is dominating until the Chen Style dude at the end takes him out, it shows that even the best have somebody who's above them.

Very cool!

[mdub2000]

well they were from the same school.

[WarriorBoy]

If that's the case then I'm sure that school got a batch of new students that day! That's the best way to determine who's really got it, put it to the test!

[leophyter]

1:46 有人大聲話：「不知所謂！」

[nkssam]

on 4:45, someone said "就住" " let water"

[nkssam]

i will suggest for those who wants to comment on the tai chi as ( 做戏？表演？) to go for a training on the 太極推手. It is very useful for yourself also.

[nkssam]

he is a master...very young and talented

[taichimakchikin123m]

擺明你跤比賽

[changhunghsueh]

這才是太極拳真正的 比武

江湖上很多招搖撞騙的 都不敢上場一搏 就是怕輸

[david66lenovo]

@changhunghsueh

on9

[anson1027]

影衰太極..搬貨咩=.=

[secongaplai]

Thanks for posting.

[WangChangAn]

wellcome!

[shopperman2007]

this is why i like chen style you will get knocked down if you cant fight. good skill here, thanks for the video please post more of this quality. a chen Fan.!

[lbrother88]

2nd round the guy wearing white shirt. If u pay attention to him u can see that he totally relax his body to listen to his opponent n attacks right before his opponent tries to attack. thats taichi skill there. thanks for posting

[WangChangAn]

Thank you for your message!

[BraveUlysses01]

Proper push hands. This is excellent. Thanks for uploading this video!

[jfjetjfjet]

You haters don't even understand the broad range of techniques real Tai Chi contains. Traps, holds, throws, strikes, and kicks... Tai Chi has them all. Don't let the usual slow movements you see fool you. This is great stuff.

太极拳包罗万象，擒拿摔打踢样样有。那些以为这是假表演的都是外­行人。那几个无袖白衣的都有真功夫。

[jdub7771]

@jfjetjfjet Agree 100%!!!!!!!!

[jimpk1]

咁都算係太極？

[WangChangAn]

No comment

[wzrdfjts]

Duuuude's , any half decent greco roman wrestler would squeeze and throw em to oblivion.

[pr101430898]

做戏？表演？

[WangChangAn]

No comment

[kairi0621]

太極拳最好可以用力道把人家抱起來

還把人家絆倒?

真的是太悲了!!

[WangChangAn]

No comment

[jinsunnyvale]

This is wrestling & Judo against people who know a little bit of tai chi. No real kung fu foundation for all the players....

[JackRusher]

Beautiful tui shou, thanks for putting this up.

[WangChangAn]

thanks!

[WangChangAn]

No comment

[wingvigor]

That is NOT Push Hand! Give Tai-Chi a break!!!

[domite1]

nice.

[taijiinchina]

Great skill.