IFPC Spokesman offends elderly, infertile, and childless couples

[hmongak]

all those that say sex is for procreation are hypocrite. do you only fuck once between every menstrual? while your wife or gilfriend is pregnant do you stop fucking? apparently if you can't say yes to this then you are fucking for the love of fucking. she can't get more pregnant it's either she is or she is not.

[hmongak]

anybody beside me wonder why we need a piece of paper to tell us that we have committed the rest of our lives together?  isn't it sad how it does not guarantee anything? thus shouldn't marriage be the agreement of two adults who choose to be there for eachother no matter what. it's silly how much people value a piece of paper and a ring. should've put a ring on it? really? I say bitch if it's not going to work a ring can not solve it.

[Boudiga]

My grandfather married his second wife at the age of 87, she was the same age! No children there! But they love each other and kept each other company!

[TVWriterGuy]

Another question to ask, "What is the church doing that contributes to gay people marrying straight people?"

Church, childbearing, and traditional marriage are the 3 top hiding places for oppressed and suppressed homosexuals forced into hiding.

It seems "liberty and justice for all " is a "we few and not you" notion.

[morguebabe]

@random

There's a federal law called ERISA that protects national insurance companies like Oxford from giving equal ights to those in civil unions. Such insurance companies state that they offer benefits only to those in marriages. State law cannot take precedent over Federal Law..

[morguebabe]

Wow.  Holy shit. "Why are you getting married anyway"

I'm infertile...well crap, I guess I'm next on the list to not be allowed to marry.

[randommagnum]

Gays want marriage for the sake of the word "marriage". Commitment, security and love? You don't need the "M" word on a piece of paper for any of that, and wouldn't provide any of that anyhow. It's all about antagonism.

Why not end state-sanctioned marriage altogether?

[morguebabe]

actually you do because of federal laws like ERISA

[randommagnum]

Explain.

[Tlincali]

These people are HUMAN BEINGS that want the same rights as every other HUMAN BEING in this country is afforded... How hard is that to understand?

[kenballer00]

@Tlincali

gays and lesbians have always been allowed to marry someone of the opposite-sex for the purpose of procreation and rearing of children according to over a centuries worth of federal constitutional law. what your proposing we do is create extra special rights that exist outside the constitution and common sense

[Tlincali]

@kenballer00 Are you married? So it wasn't for love or to spend you life with someone you care about. It is all about popping out babies? You sir are a shallow empty human.

[kenballer00]

@Tlincali

OH PLEASE, nobody's forcing gays to deny their attractions or raiding gay marriages in churches. gays can freely express their feelings of love in a church and get all the benefits that come with marriage through civil unions down the future. however, as soon as you step outside the private realm of RELIGIOUS marriage and enter into the public sphere of CIVIL marriage, you are subject to the law and public opinion or vote because civil marriage is about public policy

[silversatisfaction]

If god wanted you all to get married before having kids, he wouldn't have went and knocked up Mary.

[grfab]

Why do you need to be married in order to procreate?

[aykgotl]

Better question is: Why do you need to procreate in order to get married?

[ireallyloveggs]

i dont know what about the people who cant procreate its are we denying their rights as well akygotl

[NOtoPROP8]

Do you expect anything different from a heterosexual? Heterosexuals want heterosexual-only marriage because they believe heterosexuality is the only right way to live, they want a playing field that always benefits them and they want control over people's relationships. Heterosexuals have a millennia long history of oppression and discrimination against gay people, that is the tradition they are trying to protect not a make believe idea that marriage produces children or visa versa.

[rpezzotta]

As a heterosexual who stands strongly and proudly with my gay friends and family I really wish you wouldn't generalize by lumping all heterosexuals into this. Generalizations are what cause these messes. We label groups and then we assume everyone in that group has the same opinions. It's not right...on either side. Equality Now! Come to Washington DC on 10/11/09 and march!

[Winterfairy777]

why should i go there for gay rights. i am against it

[Winterfairy777]

discrimination is not comming from heteros.

[NOtoPROP8]

Yes it is.

[Winterfairy777]

no it is not.

[NOtoPROP8]

Can't hide.  Heterosexuals are oppressing gay people.

[Winterfairy777]

i do not care what people do in private and as long as they do not press the life style on me i am fine. that doesn`t mean that i support something that i believe is not right. i do not want anything to do with that. they leave me alone i leave them alone. its that simple.

[Winterfairy777]

no. not supporting it doesn?t mean wishing them something bad.

[ireallyloveggs]

you have no tolarance if this what you bealive and you should not impose your saying on to us beacuse all we wan is the same rights as you this would not be an issue if you just respected like we respect hetrosexual marriages winterfairy.

[Winterfairy777]

question = why do gays want the same like heteros all the time. why can`t they get a contract done share rights and just call it instead of marrige something else? That would be so easy and noone would be angree or butt hurt. I believe gays should get the right to make contracts just like a hetero does when he/she gets married. But NO GAyS GOT TO PUSH INTO HETEROS LIFE. Make your own things Gays. You can do it without bothering us. and we all could be ok with it.

[ireallyloveggs]

so your saying get out your society basacaly how can we. we ar part of society and if you dont want complaining gives us the same rights what makes you so speacial that i cant have the same rights as you winterfairy. we are peopl to i respect who you are as preson but you cant respect who i am beacouse iam different what kind of society do you want.

[Tlincali]

How are they getting into your life by getting married?? They aren't... but by so many like you saying they can't get married are the ones getting into their lives... So who is the bad guy there?

[PaulLeary]

This guy is blinded by hate - hate most likely of himself.

"One might ask, why are you getting a marriage license anyway?"

[Deltoid71]

I guess my wife and I shouldn't have gotten married then, at age 52 and 53, then because we didn't plan to have children. Could it have been love?

[yellowtail3]

all true; my poast had the same flavor as the ones before it in this thread. Shouldn't have stooped, should I?

Oh, okay, I repent of the rump banditry line... but I stand by the post. I think my list of offended was pretty accurate, don't you?

[BetterABleedingHeart]

And now the true purpose of the "Pro-family" groups has been set forth. If you are not going to marry and provide an army of fresh meat for The Lord you are not worthy, in their eyes, of marriage. They don't just hate gay people, they hate *everyone* who won't comply with their extraordinarily narrow agenda.

Still willing to defend and support them?

[grfab]

I believe the fresh meat is for the priests.

[shopstudios]

STOP THE RELIGIOUS SUPREMACY AGENDA .

[yellowtail3]

the people this guy has offended -are angry atheists, rump-banditry advocates, and and Lesbians. And Democrats.

shame on him!

[icaruspnw]

The ad hominem attack is a staple of the ignorant. What do you think you you've proved by this adolescent name calling? I can call heterosexual men "snatch pirates," but doing so is not an argument.

[TahniMara]

"if some don't qualify [being fertile] I don't think that they should be excluded from getting a marriage license." Why not include gays in that, then?

That's like saying the job you're hiring for genuinely requires a blonde (don't ask me what job that would be) but then counting white brunettes because they belong to a group that has blondes. But you're not a racist, no! You're just judging people on the group they belong to.

BESIDES: I'm gay and my ovaries work. I have creative potential.

[hbfarker]

Mr. Stewart is an idiot if he thinks the ONLY reason that people marry is to have children. Is he actually stupid enough to think that unmarried couples can't get pregnant? His position on marriage is so flawed, it would be laughable if he weren't a threat to civil rights for gay people. I'm not sure if he's just ignorant or evil. I'm leaning towards evil.

[rjpcambridge]

He is pandering to peasants to protect the manor - his and those who he works for. A historic and common evil.

[bummercucumber]

Wow. That guy should not be the representative for any group. He's horrible for their cause.

On second hand, they should definitely keep him, and get a bunch more like him.