the whole "in body stabiization" marketing push is flawed.... think about it.
Image stabilization is NOT needed if you're shooting anything wider than 50mm unless you're a coffee addict.
lens stabilization is far better due to the fact that if a NEW IS system is out. you simply upgrade the lens. no need to fork out thousands more on a new body,
that is why the bigger companies have not moved to in body IS.
@ichirootaniguchi I disagree. What if you want do do a handheld half second exposure on, say, a wide angle lens - that would be impossible on a system without stabilisation, but it is possible on a system with stabilisation built into the body. IS is not just for long focal lengths - it's very useful for long exposures at wide focal lengths too.
@cameralabs i do hand held exposures without the need for any stabilization whatso ever........ think about it this way. if IS was THAT important for most shooting sittuations. why don't professional medium format cameras have it? it's the same as to why they don't have live view and all the other bullshit that's introduced in lower level cameras.... i shoot for a living and i find that in body IS is not neccessary..... only regular consumers need this crap
@ichirootaniguchi Your 'if a new system is introduced' argument is flawed - its much cheaper to replace a £2000 body than even say... 3 of Canon's top lenses that could total up to £10000.
@McIntyreJack yes they add up to a few thousand pounds but think about it. those lenses can be mounted on multiple bodies in turn saving you money in the long run. and as my point earlier. if a new IS system is upgraded. and you so desperately need it. then you would simply just sell the old lens (or trade it in) and get the upgrade. simple as that. no need for upgrading the complete body, if professionals truly needed built in IS the major companies would introduce it.
@McIntyreJack also. professionals have different needs to the regular consumer. that is why they are using primarily the Nikon/Canon/Fuji system for small format SLR use simply because they built what professionals actually need. olympus do make great cameras. and i do admit the in camera stabilizer can be handy. but out of my own experience (coming from film) i have never once needed IS at anything lower than 200mm (in low light), alot of other working photogs would say similar things........
@souleateryo regardless of the 2x crop factor unless you are a coffee junkie you don't need IS/VR/OIS for anything shorter than 200mm.. in body IS is ridiculous
@MrJippaLippa uh... well you HAVE to change it on the lens with four thirds cameras right? so you'll have to do the same on a canon. plus you're mounting a non native lens on a canon camera. there will be no way on earth you could change lenses via the body unless you completely overhaul the lens and change the electronics etc.
Would you say that this Pana-Leica is better at large apertures than the Olympus 14-54 II? Also, have you ever heard of a manufacturing issue with grain-like dust in the periphery of the front element (from the inside)? Thank you.
7d eos music video...Ls Centz i lost my baby..continuation of Ls voicemail on youtube...My second video i ever shot using canon 7d eos did it in one day check us out
@pingtran There's no point. They're rebadged Panasonic proiducts which I've already reviewed at cameralabs . com, and the demand for Leica is extremely small.
That was a great camera body. It's untortunate that Panasonic and Leica discontinued it. It was the only relatively affortable way of getting a camera with shutter speed dial as well as the aperture ting on the lens. In addition, the body offered live view, as well as non-electronic viewfinder view, just like the Olympus E-330. The porro prism was the design that really made a lot of sense for digital camera.
Check out the Lens Buyers Guide and Nikkor lens group test at cameralabs . com, then if you have any other Qs, feel free to ask on the cameralabs forums...
Hi, Gordon. Thanks for the review! Your website has been a great tool for me. But you mentioned the 14-150mm lens from Leica. Is this lens out yet, and how much is its retail price?
Thanks, Gordon. There's another lens that I'm interested in: the Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM for Four Thirds (I have a Lumix L1). I was wondering if you had any plans of reviewing that particular lens.
How good is leica compared to canon for example? (the body!) And is there a big range of optics for Leica cams? At the moment i own two canon digital-bodies and certain L-Lenses. Is it worth a try to step to leica or should i stay at canon?
Hi emanemanresuresu, right now there's only one Panasonic DSLR, the Lumix L1 - and Leica has its own rebadged version of it called the Digilux 3. Both can use any Four Thirds lens, including over 20 from Olympus. Sounds like you have a big investment already in Canon though, so I'd stick with it, unless there's something you really don't like. See our other video tours and also the full reviews at Cameralabs . com for more details...
Thank you for replying. Yes the ammount of money invested in canon raised over the years... What i dont like at canon is the deviation of product-quality (focussing-failures such als back- or frontfocus) Some Lenses for example are good and some are really bad (same lens-model!) I think they have a problem with quality-control during Production. I got a 70-200f4 wich was not centered correctly and had the typical backfocus at 70mm.
audio transcribe ftw turn it on and go to 5:38 ''so im gonna do switch that stable aisan of again''
MrPlaystationboy 5 months ago
Is it 4/3 mount instead of M4/3??
fb8568 8 months ago
Please i can see you test a Leica S2
wsnips 1 year ago
the whole "in body stabiization" marketing push is flawed.... think about it.
Image stabilization is NOT needed if you're shooting anything wider than 50mm unless you're a coffee addict.
lens stabilization is far better due to the fact that if a NEW IS system is out. you simply upgrade the lens. no need to fork out thousands more on a new body,
that is why the bigger companies have not moved to in body IS.
ichirootaniguchi 1 year ago
@ichirootaniguchi I disagree. What if you want do do a handheld half second exposure on, say, a wide angle lens - that would be impossible on a system without stabilisation, but it is possible on a system with stabilisation built into the body. IS is not just for long focal lengths - it's very useful for long exposures at wide focal lengths too.
cameralabs 1 year ago 14
@cameralabs i do hand held exposures without the need for any stabilization whatso ever........ think about it this way. if IS was THAT important for most shooting sittuations. why don't professional medium format cameras have it? it's the same as to why they don't have live view and all the other bullshit that's introduced in lower level cameras.... i shoot for a living and i find that in body IS is not neccessary..... only regular consumers need this crap
ichirootaniguchi 1 year ago
@cameralabs good point my friend..though a half sec exposure would i feel be pushing even an ISS lens!
MrCOLTSR2 4 months ago
@ichirootaniguchi Your 'if a new system is introduced' argument is flawed - its much cheaper to replace a £2000 body than even say... 3 of Canon's top lenses that could total up to £10000.
McIntyreJack 1 year ago
@McIntyreJack yes they add up to a few thousand pounds but think about it. those lenses can be mounted on multiple bodies in turn saving you money in the long run. and as my point earlier. if a new IS system is upgraded. and you so desperately need it. then you would simply just sell the old lens (or trade it in) and get the upgrade. simple as that. no need for upgrading the complete body, if professionals truly needed built in IS the major companies would introduce it.
ichirootaniguchi 1 year ago
@McIntyreJack also. professionals have different needs to the regular consumer. that is why they are using primarily the Nikon/Canon/Fuji system for small format SLR use simply because they built what professionals actually need. olympus do make great cameras. and i do admit the in camera stabilizer can be handy. but out of my own experience (coming from film) i have never once needed IS at anything lower than 200mm (in low light), alot of other working photogs would say similar things........
ichirootaniguchi 1 year ago
@ichirootaniguchi the 50mm has a 100mm equivalent on the camera
souleateryo 9 months ago
@souleateryo regardless of the 2x crop factor unless you are a coffee junkie you don't need IS/VR/OIS for anything shorter than 200mm.. in body IS is ridiculous
ichirootaniguchi 9 months ago
Hi.
If i'm going to mount these lenses on a Canon(with an adapter) could i change the aperture on the lens or do i have to change it on the body?
MrJippaLippa 1 year ago
@MrJippaLippa uh... well you HAVE to change it on the lens with four thirds cameras right? so you'll have to do the same on a canon. plus you're mounting a non native lens on a canon camera. there will be no way on earth you could change lenses via the body unless you completely overhaul the lens and change the electronics etc.
ichirootaniguchi 1 year ago
Would you say that this Pana-Leica is better at large apertures than the Olympus 14-54 II? Also, have you ever heard of a manufacturing issue with grain-like dust in the periphery of the front element (from the inside)? Thank you.
Rwmhos 1 year ago
7d eos music video...Ls Centz i lost my baby..continuation of Ls voicemail on youtube...My second video i ever shot using canon 7d eos did it in one day check us out
thereallsyes 1 year ago
would this lens be good on an e620?
buddylee1983 1 year ago
Why havent you reviewed the Leica D Lux 3 and 4?
pingtran 1 year ago
@pingtran There's no point. They're rebadged Panasonic proiducts which I've already reviewed at cameralabs . com, and the demand for Leica is extremely small.
cameralabs 1 year ago
yea, no ones gonna pay twice the price for a leica when you can just get a panny
redtail5 1 year ago
Hi Camerlabs,
will this lense work on my ep1 olympus?
tiGGrteik 1 year ago
That was a great camera body. It's untortunate that Panasonic and Leica discontinued it. It was the only relatively affortable way of getting a camera with shutter speed dial as well as the aperture ting on the lens. In addition, the body offered live view, as well as non-electronic viewfinder view, just like the Olympus E-330. The porro prism was the design that really made a lot of sense for digital camera.
dvamateur 2 years ago 3
great review, thanks!
mycompasstv 2 years ago 2
Thank you !
xMandalorex 2 years ago
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Can you please tell me, what camera body is that ? looks retro ! thank's !
xMandalorex 2 years ago
18 seconds into the video I tell you! It's a Panasonic L1.
cameralabs 2 years ago 4
Geesh...it says in the video Onslow, no wonder why you got 7 thumbs down.
GHxx1 2 years ago
really? wow
xMandalorex 2 years ago
4 thirds? what does that mean?
yyyy2999 2 years ago
Liked your review and suggestions very much. THanks.
phmoore123 2 years ago
nice review, thanks
kloppiej 2 years ago
Thanks Gordon. Thanks Cameralabs. Your reviews are better than any others.
sloveheng 2 years ago 2
you so british :D
offtop sry.
550499 3 years ago
He is so British, informative, well spoken and knowledgeable...
ordotrajanus 2 years ago 16
this lens is for a 4/3 mount? so it wont work with the Nikon D40?
st23r 3 years ago
Correct.
cameralabs 3 years ago
Leica don't make lenses for F-mount. They have a partnership with Panasonic, and Panasonic use the 4/3 mount.
iunnox666 3 years ago
Check out the Lens Buyers Guide and Nikkor lens group test at cameralabs . com, then if you have any other Qs, feel free to ask on the cameralabs forums...
cameralabs 3 years ago
Wow IS.Now thats tech......
morphin1 3 years ago
panasonic by Leica ???
alansari101 3 years ago
Its not actually made by Leica.
ajuk1 3 years ago
The lens is manufactured under a licensing agreement with Leica Camera AG in a Panasonic plant based in Japan.
cameralabs 3 years ago
Yeap
ajuk1 3 years ago
sexy camera, but i shot with one and it feels like a Holga, plastic and light like a toy. i didn't really like it...but still an attractive camera
bigkingsha 3 years ago
Hi, Gordon. Thanks for the review! Your website has been a great tool for me. But you mentioned the 14-150mm lens from Leica. Is this lens out yet, and how much is its retail price?
siminona 3 years ago
I'm not sure what's happended to this lens - it was supposed to be out by now, but I can't find it anywhere.
cameralabs 3 years ago
Thanks, Gordon. There's another lens that I'm interested in: the Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC HSM for Four Thirds (I have a Lumix L1). I was wondering if you had any plans of reviewing that particular lens.
siminona 3 years ago
I intend to review it in the future, but in the meantime, there's several owners on the Cameralabs forums who've posted results...
cameralabs 3 years ago
quality equipment however even with the cheapest entry-level nikon DSLRs (D40/D40x) you are getting a significantly larger sensor surface-area..
anarchist4500 4 years ago
so what ?!
muscalu 4 years ago
So the 4/3 sensor will have much more noise at high ISO/ASA values.
hendriksholm 3 years ago
The difference is no more than half of a stop in noise. So on a nikon you can shoot 3200 and on an olympus about iso 2000.
To me all shots made above iso800 are crap so i don't care for the iso hype. All cameras loose detail in high iso even if they look clean.
2009zigi 2 years ago
Great tests, thanks a lot. I am looking forward to get this camera in the near future. Manual style forever !!!
kukodesign 4 years ago
that guys shirt is proper rad! :)
tomski12 4 years ago
nikon d80 ?
panasonic lumix l1 ?
mcklay 4 years ago
panasonic lumix l1 perfect
mcklay 4 years ago 2
How good is leica compared to canon for example? (the body!) And is there a big range of optics for Leica cams? At the moment i own two canon digital-bodies and certain L-Lenses. Is it worth a try to step to leica or should i stay at canon?
emanemanresuresu 4 years ago
Sorry, i mean panasonic, not Leica.
emanemanresuresu 4 years ago
Hi emanemanresuresu, right now there's only one Panasonic DSLR, the Lumix L1 - and Leica has its own rebadged version of it called the Digilux 3. Both can use any Four Thirds lens, including over 20 from Olympus. Sounds like you have a big investment already in Canon though, so I'd stick with it, unless there's something you really don't like. See our other video tours and also the full reviews at Cameralabs . com for more details...
cameralabs 4 years ago
Thank you for replying. Yes the ammount of money invested in canon raised over the years... What i dont like at canon is the deviation of product-quality (focussing-failures such als back- or frontfocus) Some Lenses for example are good and some are really bad (same lens-model!) I think they have a problem with quality-control during Production. I got a 70-200f4 wich was not centered correctly and had the typical backfocus at 70mm.
emanemanresuresu 4 years ago
Excellent review. I've never seen the image stabilizer in action before, but I know have seen it first hand. Thanks.
Alphonzen 4 years ago
Hello everyone! The full review of the Leica lens to go with this video will be on the Cameralabs website in the very near future...
cameralabs 4 years ago