Colin & Jared Alexander pendant

[AyameAmuro]

did they kissed? in the film or in the cut scenes??? or???

anyway ! i love them !!!!!

[jdaa1234]

I think there is something going on between them....

[mardisaurus]

They should have kissed!!!

[janammik]

ssince when alexander the great is a gay?? lol

[Athaleth]

@janammik since always?

[huligaane]

@janammik Oh my god, please go read a history book. Also, he was bisexual.

[liliblue]

they've both played gay roles before so it's not like they were scared to kiss each other... i don't see why it was so big of a deal.

[freakinpink01]

WHY DID THEY LET OLIVER STONE DO THIS FILM. Wae *_* such a waste of.. gay goodness.

[dragonbleu1000]

I know right! So funny with Oliver Stone's paranoia, since Alexander was known to have had not only male lovers but a male romantic partner through out his life.

Leave it to american hollywood to re write history.

[Vascular15]

@dragonbleu1000 One could argue that the homosexual element in the film is actually an attempt at re writing history, since its quite possible that Alexander was heterosexual.

[dragonbleu1000]

@Vascular15 I think "you" are the one attempting to re write history. Argue away sir. If you do the research on that society as well as Alexander you will find your theory disappointing. (lol)

[Vascular15]

@dragonbleu1000 You are an idiot if you think that Alexander being a heterosexual wasnt a distinct possibility.

[dragonbleu1000]

@Vascular15 Why are you so hell bent on defending Alexander's supposed heterosexuality? Is there a shortage of heterosexuality that concerns you? Obviously Alexander was not exclusively involved with males or females. To define his sensual and sexual life with labels id to diminish and trivialize his core person and accomplishments. Vascular , if it floats your boat to entertain your fantasy of Alexander as a modern day proud Christian heterosexual , knock yourself out !

[hopeforfailer]

I can't hear anything, what is goin on?

[notenut]

oh just kiss him already

[kimekomei]

me encantan los 2 gracias x el video

I love jared !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DarrenJones]

Colin and Jared are way too hot to appear in sex scenes *dies* damn, I was waiting for the damn kiss the entire movies as well lol I guess they were fooling with our minds the whole time anyway ;p

[GraceTemptation]

Oh yes, sounds exactly like my own opinion xD

[DarrenJones]

*high five* :D

[jrros1957]

Jared and Colin seem very close .....

[narusasu136]

the entire movie I was waiting for a kiss, unfortunately..... ;(

[twitter0418]

@narusasu136 yeah!!

[pixiedust838]

@narusasu136 there was none?? =[

[narusasu136]

@pixiedust838  none... -_-"

[zeroendless2]

@narusasu136 Oh I know what you mean... I wanted them to be much more affectionate on film.

[anis5230]

yes i'm with you he was gay that's clear you can see it from the movie and read about it in boooooks of history !!

please this is a stupide question can everyone put video like this but a video with 3 or 4 minute i love see how they filmed this great movie and thank you

[kamakioriginale]

fuck their hoolywood bastard mothers, try to "play" the gratest commander of all time.. even 300 thats played in half fiction but with a true story did it better

[MsHyde1]

@kamakioriginale: Shortminded people like you don't seem to get that man/man realtionships were a part of their culture back then, especially amongst soldiers. Actually being to infurated with a woman was seen as a weakness and they believed true love was only possible between men. Ops?

[CuteBumbleBee4]

lol dorks

[YoBeboSangre]

@CuteBumbleBee4

your comment definitely made me lol the most. :DDD

[POTIS1]

MEGAS ALEXANDROS was HOLOSEXUAL!

He f@cked them ALL!

[Aunjel22]

Ok what your looking for is things like the

the Iliad

The persian boy ( or any book by Mary Renault really

and mostly anything with greek history because it was very widely accepted in that time from what i have heard. Hope you find some things to your liking

[MamkoHot]

google them online. texts can be found on the net.

[storebror21]

Although I disagree with mikegrecia's rather vitriolic stance against gay rights, he's right in one thing. Ancient Greeks made a very clear distinction between homosexuality and pederasty. Pederasty took place between an older man and a youth (who was not expected to derive pleasure from it). Even in pederasty, anal sex was an anathema and was felt to be degrading. Any Athenian citizen found guilty of male prostitution would be stripped of many of their rights as a citizen.

[TheReturnOfStephan]

In a magazine interview, Jared said that he and Colin were totally ready to kiss & be affectionate for the film, but OLIVER STONE COULDNT HANDLE IT, so, they began messing w/ his head on-set, holding hands, kissing hello and goodbye...and OLIVER...JUST WASNT HAVING IT. He's waaay too concerned w/ male homo- & bisexuality.

It seems to be the subtext of each of his films...

[Lonelystar904]

woooow really which magazine was that , it's so interesting

[JazminSafadi]

LMAO.  Yeah, he's a great director and all, but he does seem like a huge homophobe.

[constance0292]

I don't know if I'm right (I'm not sure now that I've read your version) but I've read somewhere that some *hot* scenes beetween Alexander and Hephaistion (Colin and Jared) had been recorded but they hadn't been put in the movie because they were too realistic. (But I repeat it : I'm NOT sure of that)

And sorry for my bad english :)

[emoKid474]

@TheReturnOfStephan

XDD That's so Jared, can you say what magazine was it?

i really want to read that

[notenut]

@TheReturnOfStephan oh you caught that too

[phsycocat]

@TheReturnOfStephan

What. an. ass ¬¬

[llluv2travel]

@TheReturnOfStephan

Lol do you by chance remember the interview in what magazine?

[Athaleth]

@TheReturnOfStephan I think they should redo theis movie and take another director...

[killercat6565]

@Athaleth But wiih Jared and Colin as main chara's again, of course!

On the other hand it's a good movie though, except for kiss we all miss ;)))

And please withoutthe scene with Bagoas!

[eldiran2]

@TheReturnOfStephan Stone was famously asked years ago if he'd had homosexual encounters and to elaborate. His reply: "What--which sailor at which harbor?" It DOES seem to be a subtext to his films, and I doubt that he couldn't handle the Bisexual nature of the 2 men in "Alexander", rather, he knew that homophobic America would have problems accepting it...which they did.

[sahajad]

@eldiran2

No, but there was a kissing scene between Alexander and Bagoas which Oliver Stone had put in the film and was accepted by every one except for Greece of course. They were not happy with Alexander's bi-sexuality being portrayed. But Oliver Stone did not seem to mind portraying a relationship between Alexander and Bagoas.

[MinyaChan]

Jared is damn hot.

[giannis116]

the ancient greeks was so free and advanced..

they had overcome all the problems about sexuality.

[Dhaune]

well, you solve one problem and get a hundred others

[vanyadolly]

I don't think you can say they got to the point of having resolved all problems about sexuality just because things were different. Their system had quite a lot of flaws too.

[elenillor87]

ohh,I loved it*___*

I think that didn't exist such a strong love as that between Alexander&Hephaistion.A total Love.

Some people should STUDY history,and read with an open mind Plato,Curzio Rufo,Aelian,Plutarc,Arriano..

and to mikegrecia:u don't have shame of your ignorance?I feel shame for the history of Greece,seing what a stupid descendent it has..now continue with stupid fascist words u learn from some stupid like urself..u are not able to do anything more(and this is a relief for humanity).

[ng1294]

Homosexuals should be accepted as normal people. They are people just like you and me. Seriously people get over it. Greece and Rome may not have had a perfect civilization compared to today's standards but atleast they could accept people for who they were.

[LovingMarilyn]

Do you think that gaysex was invented yesterday?

[Trampadoo]

Well, Greek mythology portraits Achilles and Patrocles as lovers so tough luck, little closeted homophobe.

And you call Hitler a great fighter/warrior, you fashist? The guy was not even tough enough to kill himself and let his butler do it for him (you Russians found out about that btw.).

You should really stop reading all those propaganda history books. Go visit archives in Europe and read the real texts. There are so many Greek achient heros with male/male love stories, if you only knew. XD

[mikegrecia]

no lovers like gays but love for the soul.

you change all the history.your gay propaganda

is very stupied.

[MsHyde1]

@mikegrecia: Er, he/she was talking about original Greek stories. And those are not all about love of the soul but also about good old sexual desire between men. Get over it.

[mikegrecia]

You obviously haven't read Plato yourself

because it is clear that Socrates and the

other philosophers, when talking about same

sex love, mean the "common love"

(as they call it), which means the love they

have as very close friends: the love they

have that they would die for eachother

(like Achillies and Patroklas), not that

they would have sex with eachother. Please

go ahead and read Plato's "Symposium".

[JazminSafadi]

I'd love to read some of those Greek male/male love stories. Could you point me in the right direction or mention some couplings (like Achilles and Patrocles)? Because it's not that I feel weird about it, but the librarian might not be able to help me if I just say that I want to read "Greek ancient texts with male/male love stories."

[koejke18]

I know one: it's a Dutch book, I'm pretty sure it's also translated into English. It's called 'De Berg van Licht' (the Mountain Of Light) and the writer is Louis Couperus. Hope it helps :)

[koejke18]

I just rememberd another one: It's called 'The Persian Boy' by Mary Renault

It's about Bagoas life. ^^

[sahajad]

YOu can also read the " Life of Alexander the Great - Mike Rowlands. He has based this book after conducting research from Greek libraries. He mentions a lot of Alexander's and Hapeastion's gay relationship.

So according to this book, Alexander was bi-sexual and it was a common practise in ancient Greece !

[bulletformyrocker]

ohlala, does the book have - you know - sexy scenes?

[bulletformyrocker]

Wouldn't the librarian help you? Really?

Okay, I wouldn't ask it myself because it would sound a little weird.

But just a question. Is being gay still a big deal in the US? (I checked it and saw you live in the US)

because I'm a dutch girl and being gay is totally OK in my country.

I'm sorry if it's a stupid question xD

[Trampadoo]

Well, he must have slep with a woman at least once, if only for political reasons so since he got her pregnant (even though it is a real achievement to have three wives and only get one child) he was probably bisexual. You don't have to label everything "gay". The acient Greek didn't have these difitition anyway.

Any why do you think the greatest warrior could not have been gay. Being gay does not male a man weak. It was seen as manly back then.

[mikegrecia]

your propaganda is funny, you made all ancient

people gays.lol. persians,romans,greeks, etc

all gays.are you serious????

take and real the book "the myth of homophylophilia in ancient greece".

and yes gays are weak and cowards.

alexander had many wifes fool

[Trampadoo]

Erm, it is called knowing your history. I am afraid you don't know much of your own or rather, you deny it because you are a hateful little homophobe with major issues. And yes, your great warriors screwed men. Get over it. You readily admit that Alexander loved a man but having sex with a man suddenly disables you to be a great warrior? Get real. Don't you realise how you are making a joke out of yourself here?

[ppyyoonnii]

You are IGNORANT and CLOSE-MINDED! Accept the fact that DIFFERENT CULTURES HAVE DIFFERENT SOCIAL NORM! There is no doubt that Ancient Greece has completely differnt view of their sexuality as we do today. In fact, in ancient Greece, pederasty is seen as an essential element in their culture~!

AND BOXER MY~ ASS~!!!!You are screaming homophobic craps BEHIND THE COMPUTER for crying out loud! If you really have the guts to fight, you would be screaming homophobic words at some Gay Bar!

[ppyyoonnii]

Pederasty has nothing to do with the political system at the time, it's simply a cultural practices. Stop throwing out unrelated craps to pretend you know shit.

And Dude, seriously, you can't even spell "democra-c-y" and "e-l-ections."

So shut up and open a dictionary.

[mikegrecia]

i write to your language and not in my language,

if you want we can speak to greek. πουτανιτσα

[AmethystCobain]

well ppl has this belief that football players can't be gay just because their profession is for MEN

is just an statement without... evidence i guess, why not?

[StephanAOTTO1]

BTW, Brad Pitt was supposed to play Jared's part...until his former wife, Jennifer, talked him out of it. The same goes for why, in "Troy", Achilles' lover is renamed his "cousin". Brad didn't care one way or the other. Jennifer, on the other hand, apparently, flipped out.

[banana359]

i never did like Jennifer Aniston. and here's one more reason not to. maybe she was afraid that Brad would prefer a guy to her. i would definitely be rooting for the guy. i'm so glad he's with angelina jolie now. they make such an awesome couple!

[StephanAOTTO1]

Also, remember that Angelina plays Colin's mom in "Alexander", so, no matter what, maybe she & Brad were just meant to be together.

[boytoyvyrgyn]

Achilles get lost beacuse of his loved one's death, it was frustating not to see that on the film. Both life stories Achilles's and Alexander's are as romatic as heartbreaking.

[StephanAOTTO1]

It's always so funny to see so many homophobic comment on a GAY-THEMED VIDEO CLIP!!! Hello??? Just grow up, become MEN & come out of your friggin' closets, already!!!

Everyone you know already knows about you, so, by posting those comments on a video for which you OBVIOUSLY searched, you think you're hiding your own bi or homosexuality, when, in fact,...you're doing the exact opposite.

You're "outing" yourself, STUPID!!!

[rickT5555]

motherussia; You are just a homophobic piece of shit.

[rickT5555]

motherfucker: you are a tosser

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: Alexander and Hephaistion were gay,per Arrian, Ptolomy etc. Get over it !!!They were still great warriors, but gay ones.!!

[rickT5555]

that's Hephaistion !

[mikegrecia]

no that's ΗΦΑΙΣΤΙΩΝΑΣ.

go die now faggot

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia; you really are a homophobic piece of shit.

[mikegrecia]

today greeks are better warriots of ancient

greeks but they are very few. and of course we are not homophobic.

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: Whose ass do you think you saved in WWII ? Are you delusional as well as homophobic ? You even had fascist generals running Greece longer than of the other European countries. But it's your betrayal of the beautiful sacred love between Alexander and Hephaistion that makles me sick. Just because you have a pathological hatred of gays does not give you the right to betray that sacred bond of love. You are a traitor to them . Shame on you.

[mikegrecia]

Historical justice forces me to admit that among all the enemies who stand against us ,the GREEK soldier above all,fought with the most courage.he surrendered himself only when the continuation ofresistance was not possible any longer,and when he had no reason not to..However,he fought so bravely,that even his enemies can not deny their respect for him..Thus the GREEK prisoners of war were released immeditely, having in mind the heroic stance of these soldiers.ADOLPH HITLER,REICHSTAG,4 MAY 1941

[mikegrecia]

"until now, we knew that greeks were

fighting like heroes. from now on we

shall say that heroes fight like greeks." winston churchhill,prime minister of britain-1940

[Karilith]

Which is funny, because Alexander the Great wasn't Greek by birth, he was Macedonian.

^^ Plus, there were plenty of gay warriors throughout history, greek or not. Your profession doesn't dictate who you love.

That makes as much sense as saying that a tax collector will /always/ fall in love with a brunette, or a doctor with a blonde.

[mikegrecia]

he was macedonian mean that he is not greek???

ok, and i am spartan,that mean i am not greek.

very well.looooooooool.

guys i am spartan (not greek) and my girl

is cretan (not greek).loooooooool

learn history furomian shit

[mikegrecia]

"For I Alexander myself am by ancient descent a Hellenas (Greek),

and I would not willingly see Hellas(Greece) change her freedom

for slavery."(Herod. IX,45,2[Loeb])

[Karilith]

For one, Macidon was never a greek city state, so making that analogy was...retarded.

Plus, about him speaking of his 'ancient descent'...everyone has ancient descent of something in them. He was probably using the statement to make them feel better about his asking them to march halfway around the planet for his own personal dream.

[mikegrecia]

man you need to read history,

you are so funny to tell that

[mikegrecia]

ALEXANDER THE GREAT:

"For As Hellenes (Greeks) we should

not be slaves to barbarians."

Callisthenes of Olynthus 1.15.1-4>

[mikegrecia]

ALEXANDER THE GREAT:

"They will be fighting for pay... we, on the contrary,

shall fight for Greece, and our hearts will be in it."

(Addressing his troops prior to the Battle of Issus,

as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian

Arrian, Book II, 7)

[mikegrecia]

Alexander to Persians:

"Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of

Hellas(Greece) and did us great harm though we had

done them no prior injury;...I have been appointed

the leader of Hellenes(Greeks)"

Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4(Loeb P.A.Brunt)

[mikegrecia]

Alexander addressing the dead southern Greeks after

the battle of Chaeronia:"Holy shadows of the dead,

I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate,but

the accursed rivalry which brought sister nations and

brother people, to fight one another. I do not feel

happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I

would be glad brothers if I had all of you standing

here next to me, since we are united by the SAME

language, the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions."

[mikegrecia]

"GREAT ALEXANDER said the military leaders to the camps:

`We have made enough war in Persia and conquered Dareios

who claimed taxes from us the Hellenes(Greeks), but what

are we accomplishing by marching against the Indians, in

scary lands and doing things improper from Hellas(Greece)?

Callisthenes of Olynthus (3.1.2-4)

[mikegrecia]

you want more?????

stupied furomian gupsy

[Karilith]

You could start by making sense...then, maybe, I might feel offended when you fail to see the point that I'm making:

Every general, no matter his standing, personal background, or birth, tries to make himself seem a part of his 'nation'. Alexander was no different. He was /born/ a Macedonian. Doesn't matter if he called himself a greek ten thousand times, he still wasn't one.

About the gupsy comment...I don't know if you meant Gypsy or something else...*shrug* Can't be offended by gimmerish.

[mikegrecia]

you continue to say that alexander was not greek??? you must be the most stupied and

brainwashed gypsy in earth. macedonians believed in 12 gods,they speaked greeks,they took place in olumpic games,they had as symbol the star of

vergina(a ancient greek sumbol who had all the greeks tribes) and you continue this crap.

unbelieveble........

[Karilith]

Somehow, I'm thinking that being called a gypsy is supposed to offend me - I'm quite proud of /my/ Romani blood. So, you can take that one and shove it.

For further reference - Saying that they have the same deities and language is like saying that the US, Canada, and the UK are the /same/ country.

Plus - if you're going to call people 'stupied', you should at least spell it correctly. Otherwise, you're the one looking retarded. ^^

[iloveanime7]

Personally, I think using 'gypsy' to define the Romani people is an insult to them. The term 'gypsy' came from 'Egypt', and the Romani orginated from India. (I'm not Romani myself, but I think the culture is fascinating. :))

[mikegrecia]

he tell that he and whole macedonians was

greek tribe,he had 3 wifes and you tell

that he was not greek and he was gay????????

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooool.

little child if you don't know about history

better close your fucking mouth

[mikegrecia]

you want more??? go read a book about

history.you must have respect to greece

and alexander was not gay because he was warriot.

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: It is a truth, universally acknowledged, that all Greeks are gay.

[mikegrecia]

all greeks are gay???lol.are you sure???

i am from greece bastard and the gays here

are very very few and of course we beat them

everytime.we have gays only in the summer and

they are from north europe. go die faggot and don't say bullshits if you come to greece and tell that then you are dead.

[Trampadoo]

Dude, you really have issues. The Greek had a whole army of lovers. Remember the Theban Band. It was common for men to have male lovers so I guess it is fair to say that there were more Greek warriors who's had sex with a man than warriors who had not had sex with a man. You are one of these retards who think that gay/bi men are weak and female. You couldn't be wronger. Your as I understand, big hero slep with women (for political reasons) and men. Get over it and accept the past of your culture

[mikegrecia]

of course and had gays in ancient times

because gays are sick people and homosexuality

is a desaese. but they was very few.

but alexander was not gay,he had many wifes

and many childrens.learn history and stop

watching many hollywood movies.

[xxXanthiaxx]

I'm not going to comment on your view towards homosexuals (I mean, I think you're wrong, but it's your view) but I'm afraid Alexander only had one definite child, Alexander VI, by Roxane, and may or may not have had another called Hercules by a woman who was not his wife. He had three wives, only one of which he had a child with. Plutarch reports him to have disliked heterosex because the 'act of generation' reminded him of his mortality.

Just a historical heads-up.

[lorienleaflady]

your horrifying grammar aside...

you have the capacity for homosexuality for your genes too, it's in every animal. it's just for you, the gene didn't activate... and you made the decision to disregard scientific and historical fact.

in ancient times, men would receive young men for their harems as gifts, and this was a good gift to give... more valuable than a woman back then.

if you still think homosexuality is an illness... take your pet to the vet.

[KougasPrincess]

Also, how the hell were gays non existent back then? That makes absolutely no sense. That's like saying straights didn't exist back in the 1700's. Gays, Lesbians and bisexuals were existent for just as long as heteros were. Your sexuality is in your genes, and it's not like the genes randomly popped up out of nowhere.

[damballah01]

What the point in trying to educate this mikegrecia: All he is capable of is hurling meaningless misinformed insults at people he knows he'll never meet face to face. I say stop wasting your logic on this simian and just spam him. Idiot.

[mikegrecia]

"love" betwin two mens in ancient greece and ancient italy and whole world isn't love like

gay today. in ancient times "love" betwin mens

is love for the soul and love like brothers not this bullshit like today gays. learn history,

gays don't existance in ancient world. alexander had many wifes.stop propaganda

[ramabude]

um...not true, yu just wanna cover up homosexuality cause yar a homofobe

[mikegrecia]

not true???learn history girl.

gays in ancient world don't existance.

[ramabude]

ya sure dont 'existance'. Depends on how yu wanna see it. If yu even think i'm a girl then what can i say...

[mikegrecia]

fuck you gay

[ramabude]

sure...lol

[ganymedic]

It's true that Alexander would not have been 'gay' in today's mainstream way, but that does not mean he didn't have a romantic/sexual relationship with another man.

[mikegrecia]

all the ancient people have this culture.

love betwin mans like today not excistance.

love is like love like brothers and not gays.

alexander had many wifes,he was gay?????

lol. gays is sick people and isn't natural.

i am from greece and i saw gays only for other countries.here we say for gays that they are sick and they have natural problem.

[Narqalaq]

Oh really? Gays are sick and unnatural? How did you reach this conclusion? Was it through Aristotelian deduction? (You are gay, you are sick = all gays are sick?) Or was it through induction? (You have met all gay guys in the galaxy and you have empirically tested them for sickness?)

Oh by the way... I don't intend to be offensive, but the little petty country that is now called Greece has nothing to do with the great civilization that once existed in a much greater area of Europe.

[mikegrecia]

the little petty country that is now called Greece has nothing to do with the great civilization that once existed??????????

go to hell stupied and don't speak for greece.

look your shitty country who called naderlands

with soooooooooo many gays.

death to gays.

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: you should have the good manners to withdraw your comments on gays and apologize;The Netherlands has been one of the most tolerant countries of the world and has shown the rest of us the way.RickT

[mikegrecia]

i have not problem with gays but in

ancient times gays was few and of course

alexander was not gay.this bullshits made

only in hollywood movies.

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: Alexander was the greasest human that ever lived.Respect ! But he loved Hephaistion withe his body and his soul. He proved this over and over. It increases his greatness,in my opinion.

[mikegrecia]

from where you learn that stupied boy???

from the movies?? i am greek and i know

better of you if he was gay.he had 3 wifes in

his life and hephaistion was only a good

friend of alexander.also do you believe that a great warriot can be gay???this movie is the most stupied of ever made,oliver stoon made all persians gays.lol

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: no I'm not stupid. Alexander and Hephaistion always compared themselves to Achilles and Petrocolus at Troy. All the Greek historians,Plutarch,Athenaeus,­Ptolomy,Arrian have told us so. They know more than you. Get over it ! Being gay is part of his greatness. Why are you so negative ? Accept it.

[mikegrecia]

you call now and achilles gay???lol.

alexander loved hphaistion like brother

and not like gay.also achilles love patroclus

like brother don't make these great warriots

gays because you don't regognize what say

the ancient books. maybe and hercules was gay???he loved iolaus???lol

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia:of course great warriers can be gay, just as great writers, painters, artists,leaders and gays can be anything...they/we are anything and everything and everywhere. Get over your bitter bigotry.

[mikegrecia]

sent me a gay to fight with me.

if he win then i accept that gays are warriots.

lol. gays can't fight is like girls.

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia: you are just another self deluded nationalist fascist of the Balcan persuasion, who have always refused to see reason and rationality when it stares them in the face. No wonder your region is a fuck-up. Alexander and Hephaistion were lovers; you soil their great memory with you small minded bigotry. Alexander and Hephaistion forever- piss off all bigots. !!!!

[rickT5555]

Mikegrecia; that's Balkan !

[mikegrecia]

fuck you bastard faggot and don't speak

about greek warriots.you are all shits.

go learn history and don't watch so many

hollywood movies. you call me fascist??lol

[rickT5555]

mikegrecia; yes, a bigoted fascist, who still thinks he owns the classical Greek tradition. Ha ! you are not worthy to speak the words Alexander and Hephistion; you dishonour their great mempry with you stupidity and prejudice. Begone, sperm of the devil !

[rickT5555]

Narqalaq: I agree the isolated small mindedness of the Greece of today has nothing to do with classical Greece, which one can admire......but not this Balkanised lot of Neanderthals !

[mikegrecia]

greece of today has nothing to do with classical greece???are you stupied??? we save your ass

in ww2 and you said that??if we don't fight

hitler for 2 months then germany will conguered all the world and you call us fashists.

that's how stupied you are

[Trampadoo]

Mikegrecia, your ancestor's culture even expected of them to have sexual relationships with men. They did have buttsecks and the older men who educated teenage boys did rub their youknowwhat between the thighs of the boy. Learn you own history instead of desperactely trying to deny it. You are just making a fool out of yourself. So your contemporary culture is homophobic. Your ancestors would have not liked that kind of thinking, that is for sure. They were men enough to sleep with men.

[KougasPrincess]

mikegrecia - Actually, you ignorant little jerk; in Ancient times, things were a lot more simple. People didn't judge if you dated the same sex. It was all the same back then. Man to Man or Woman to woman, it didn't matter, all that mattered back then was if they loved eachother. All people really pay attention to now is if a gay couple is having gay sex or not.

[rickT5555]

KougasPrincess: I think you make a great point....Back then the priority of love seems to have been more important than pinning labels on people; love was love, unqualified. I love this film and the relationship between Alexander and Haphaistion; where did we go wrong in the west?

[xxXanthiaxx]

Thing is, you are actually kind of right, but at the same time... not. Ancient Greek homoeroticism was definitely seen by philosopers (Sokrates, early Plato) as the best sort of love of the soul (especially Sokrates, but Plato was such a fanboy for him, so...). In theory, it was the union of two perfect souls, therefore perfect love, along with a whole thing about the concept of 'charis' and selflessness, but in practice, there was very much the kind of lust we see in most sexual relationships.

[xxXanthiaxx]

(cont.) For example, the love is symbolised through the anecdote of the soul in a chariot drawn by horses, who become excited when they see a beautiful youth, and want to charge towards him. This obviously suggests a longing passion --'pothos', if you want to use Alexandrian lexis-- which is the initial 'eros', which is sexual and physical, and a love of the body, before the achievement of 'philia', which is the love of the person's soul, a phenomenen which is returned. Eros is sexual.

[atchuu]

Fact 1: Alexander was a raging homosexual

Fact 2: Jared Leto would be a better fit, seeing as he likes guys and all.

[Alexander0fMacedonia]

why the fuck you're connecting Alexander to the gay greeks aka gayreeks???

he was pure Macedonian. the rest is greek propaganda just cos they wanna change our name and that's why they're scared that we'll take our land back.

and i loooooooove this movie. i never got the chance to see the whole movie becouse it's too long.but imma watch it.... :P i always promise that to myself...lol

[amuneronaio]

fuck u u fuck of furom!!!

[nadjalee2000]

Beautiful. Should have been in the movie. :)

[zlatickoxt]

I agree. I'd love to watch scenes like this. :)

[Welvia]

Jared looks like he'd love to kiss Colin in one moment.

(Love it!)

[kralicanamakedonija]

noooooo noooo stop it..maybe Alexander was gay...but jared isn't...

[sweetlolamara]

All greeks were bisexual you ignorant brat.

GET OUT of your closets boys and gals.

Lola.

[kellykuk]

yes the ancient greeks were more or less bisexual....anything goes, basically!!

[typicalxlyf]

haha! they look gooooddd!! very cute!

[HephaestionJared]

this is so cute haha, i love Jared. They look so good together ;)

[pinkAnarchie]

*lauqh* how cuteee :D

[blackcherrywoman]

i love jared but i gotta admit that they look very good together!!!

[pikis20]

no sound but still this is verry SEXY!! :P

[Kaalimaa]

no it wasn't?? this is the first time when i saw that. great clip, it would be better with sound.

[whatthefuckbenj]

was this in the movie??

[Welvia]

I guess that this is not from shooting...I mean that I think this is private chat between Colin and Jared not Alexander and Hephaistion. Actually I hope. (smile)

[aljoud1988]

lol yep the real lovers is colin and jared *wink*

[MsBerrylove]

Me too :D

[LittleMoony]

so sweet! they so cute together. ^^

[Bzibzianka]

Merlin, I'm such a slash fan. *sigh*

[annalea08]

no sound...?