the Bible is clear about the subject. Its wrong! I just think in the bases of nature. Everything created can reproduce it's self. Cells, Plants, Animals, Humans. In this world a male dog cant go to a male dog and reproduce. If it was natural to do so. We would have been born with both genders inside, like plants. If you take 50 gay males or females and put them in a island and leave them. Go back 100 years they would all be extinct. Like JESUS said they know not what they do.
The Bible teaches us that should be of the same mind what type of mind do these preachers have today. These preachers today can't say what Paul said imitate me as I imitate CHRIST. Becaues if we imitate a lot of these preachers today many sould will continue to go to hell.
@mstandme Why? I think it's the best way to reach those who have the same "thorn in their side." Black people need to wake up. You'd be surprise how many gay gospel artists are out there, who's music minister to millions of people. The creator can USE who he pleases, not you my dear. Get out of his business, in addition to the fact, it's none of your business who consenting adult sleeps with. PERIOD.
There is a child molester at the Liberty Baptist Church in Chicago, IL. His name is Robert Darrel Wilson and he lives at 8824 S. Parnell Street in Chicago, 60620. His phone numbers are 773-488-2987 and 773-488-7438.
This monster is a bishop at the Liberty Baptist Church Liberty Baptist Church Of Chicago 4849 S King Dr, Chicago, IL 60615 » Map (773) 268-675. Stop this monster succubus from destroying the lives of young men. He destroyed my brother who took his own life. Put him on blast!
anderson cooper said bishop long DENIED all allegations but he didnt deny anything.. he said he wasnt perfect, he's not the man being portrayed in the news or media or watever and he's been advised not to fight from the pulpit. he didnt flat out call those boys liars but left room for speculation
tHIS INTERVIEW IS SAD. BOTH PREACHERS ARE BOTH NOT ON THE TRUTH. THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR THE CHURCH. I JUST CANT BELIEVE THAT HAGGARD IS PREACHING AGAIN, LORD HELP. R PEOPLE BLIND.
The only problem i have with this whole clip is anderson cooper call them African american....ummm!!!! what are you "european american"... how can they be a country and a contient... jus twondering. I have nothing on the whole foolisness that is going on in these so call churches...IT'S ON YOU ANDERSON COOPER.
Bishop Long has been a vociferous opponent to gay marriage in the past and this is why many of the gay and lesbian groups are foaming at the mouth hoping and wishing the accusations against him are true. We have only heard one side of the story.
Anderson Cooper is a big hyprocrite, I know of a Chruch group who tried to contact him about a Wal-mart truck running into stopped traffic and killing a family of four and injuring greatly 2 other people and Wal-mart had there truck driver to lie. Wal-mart lawyers proceed to attack the Church of the people injured. This country is amazing. News media huh?
jesterjacobs. This whole interview is a Joke! Why would you ask them?
Troy had absolutely 'No Business in the Pulpit' b/c he's gay which is an Abomination to God. Women are allowed to preach. Very bad examples. Women preaching, eating pork, etc are Not an Abominations to God. like Troy is
The Bible also says you should be fruitfull & multiple. And Gay relationships donot have the equipment to do this (they can't have babies together uf their life depended on it).
Why cound't CNN get someone besides Ted Haggard to defend the pro-traditional marriage side? What a rigged interview. I have no doubt Long probably messed up, and should be fired, but it says nothing about the church as a whole based on one person.
@ace8842 Not only should he be fired if he's found guilty, but he should GO TO JAIL and the church should pay millions to the victims! RELIGION = EVIL!
Listen carefully to what "Troy," the guy on the right says. He's a snake. Homosexuality IS NOT A SIN, it is an ABOMINATION, which means a deliberate rebellion against God. Troy uses the 2 wrongs make it right tactic. The bible DOES NOT HAVE THE WORDS "a woman can't preach" NOWHERE. He's looking for an ally by saying "If women preach, then he should be allowed to be gay in the church." TROY YOU CAN BE GAY, THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO THE CHURCH TO CONDONE IT!
@Jamie072 EXCUSE ME BUT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12)" ALSO! If you're going to cherry pick the bible re gays you need to include what happens to disobedient children! Read Deuteronomy 21:18-21. STOP CHERRY PICKING SCRIPTURES TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA!!
@jesusdied1 - So you're another "Troy." In your words if children can be disobedient, then you can be gay. You just proved my point GAY PEOPLE NEED TO CONDEMN OTHERS TO CONDONE BEING GAY. I rest my case.
@Jamie072 First of all not that it matters but I'm a happily married man with two teen sons. Next, I understand that children will be disobedient, BUT apparently the biblical god doesn't as it's with his approval that disobedient children should be stoned to death! Finally, you only proved that you're narrow minded and likely intellectually dishonest re this issue!
@Jamie072 It not a sin you fucking idiot... Don't just READ do so research you black damn idiot... The Vatican Church have removed so many scriptures out of that bible which got so many of you all lost it's a shame. The bible is so incomplete which has so many people lost with translations and meaning... GOD nor Jesus speaks on or about homosexuality if it was a sin I sure both would have spoke about
@Tommy4503 1st of all why did you use my name to discriminate against "black" people? Who told you I was "black?" RACIST PIG!!! Thank goodness, you CAN'T REPRODUCE!!!
@Jamie072 Well I'm sure the Eddie Long Preyed many of day's that GOD would remove his feeling toward other men but it did happen... What GOD intended no man can change no priest nor a bishop no matter how much you hate it!!! Deal with it
@Tommy4503 You FREAK. Adultery and fornication are mentioned in the bible. Unmarried people are not to have sex. Married people can't have sex outside of the marriage. DO YOU KNOW ANY VIRGIN HOMOSEXUALS??? Stop changing the subject and LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE, YOU PEDOPHILE!
@Jamie072 Fuck you, Fuck your mama, fuck everything about your pathetic life... (Hate) do you real think you going to get to heaven..? I mean really and another thing I don't do kid's I only do full grown well developed dick buddy so take dumb ass and go hide under a rock..... Rape Murder and hate thats a straight issue
@Tommy4503 Some people don't want feces and urine in their mouths like you do. Keep your nasty actions to yourselves and leave the children alone. The video is about a homosexual raping children, you moron.
@Jamie072 One thing I don't do is rape children only Pastor's, Priest's & You do that. I sure you will be next to get caught with someone kid penis or ass in your mouth, More and more of you are getting exposed every year. You can't throw a bible script at me buddy. my mother has a Master Degree and my dad has a B.A Degree. I'm very knowledgeable I know that book like the back of my hand so you can go tell those lie's to someone that will believe you because I know better
@Tommy4503 BUT What DO YOU have? . I have those degrees as well plus am a Doctor. STICK TO THE QUESTION YOU IDIOT. Do you know any virgin homosexuals? I don't think so, that's why you won't answer the question.
@Tommy4503 But what do you have? NOTHING. I have those degrees also, plus I am a DOCTOR, you loser. Stick to the question, do you know any VIRGIN HOMOSEXUALS? No, that's why you're trying to change the subject.
@Jamie072 I don't know any VIRGIN GAY MEN I Don't know any VIRGIN Straight Men or Women I do know some 11, 12, 13 & 14 Year old Girl who have got pregnant by grown straight men who can be the fathers and grandfathers. Sir your hate which is a sin is going to take you straight to hell... Seek the truth!!! I'm not going to do this with you OK so leave me the hell alone
@Tommy4503 My point exactly. Drink your feces and urine all day, nobody cares. Remember children aren't born in your mouth, you idiot. Nobody asked you to be straight, so why are you trying to make everyone gay?
@Jamie072 My Last comment to you.... You fucking retarded what is you point that no virgin's excite anymore...? I sure there is I just don't know and nether do you still I don't get you're point and really don't care. I can't make anyone gay that's not already gay just like you can't make anyone straight, no matter what you do or say. You keep reading the European Catholic Bible (DUMMY)
@Tommy4503 DID YOU FLUNK KINDERGARTEN??? There are no "virgin homosexuals" because MANY were raped as children. You can't make someone gay, but you can be a pedophile and confuse the kids. LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE. This video is about a gay man raping children and you are trying to blame the children. STAY AWAY FROM KIDS!
@Jamie072 - Bullshit! There's is nothing on this earth that did not issue from the will of the CREATOR. If the blood can cover a murder, adulterer, ect. it can cover a homosexual. You're quoting Hebrew wisdom, not from the CREATOR. Why didn't Jesus mentioned it. I'm sure there were queens running around then, There is no degree of SIN (things that will hurt you or your character) eating Pork is a abomination, but we'll suck on a rib bone in a New York minute and judge other. Bullshit!
haboreh. The burden of proof required in a Civil Suit only requires that these 4 plaintiffs prove that their version of the facts is “More than Likely” to be true than Pimp's Eddie Long version. And that's probably not going to be hard to do. Also, in some cases, where the wrongdoing was intentional or malicious, the court may also order punitive damages. Punitive damages in a civil suit are intended to punish the defendant and deter them and others from committing similar acts in the future.
haboreh. This Standard of Proof in a Civil Lawsuit is significantly easier to satisfy than the “Beyond a Reasonable Doubt” standard of a Criminal Case. Criminal prosecutions require a unanimous decision by all twelve jurors, which can be difficult to achieve. Civil Lawsuits require agreement by only ten of twelve jurors for a decision.
@esquireyes - The difference between the burden of proof in a criminal and civil trial is substantial. In a criminal trial, it is 'beyond a reasonable doubt,' about 98% guilty. In a civil trial, the burden of truth is usually called 'a preponderance of the evidence,' which means more than 50 percent. Another standard used in some civil trials is 'clear and convincing,' which means exactly 50 percent. (civil)money vs (criminal)incarceration.
@haboreh. What's your point? I just said the same thing. Which is that the difference between burden of proof in criminal & Civil Court is substantial....
@esquireyes - The point is that everyone in North America is aware of the differences between civil and criminal court. The point I was trying to make is that the Bishop has already been convicted in by most people without ever having the opportunity to defend himself in court.
@haboreh 100% correct!Teach!..& of those so convinced,if u are not one of them & u simply try to raise rational discourse around it,they, like nytn & esquire come at u like a swarm of angry wasp!
the Bible is clear about the subject. Its wrong! I just think in the bases of nature. Everything created can reproduce it's self. Cells, Plants, Animals, Humans. In this world a male dog cant go to a male dog and reproduce. If it was natural to do so. We would have been born with both genders inside, like plants. If you take 50 gay males or females and put them in a island and leave them. Go back 100 years they would all be extinct. Like JESUS said they know not what they do.
MRGENHERNANDEZ 4 months ago
There is a way that seems right to man, but the end is destruction.
mustangmy 5 months ago
The Bible teaches us that should be of the same mind what type of mind do these preachers have today. These preachers today can't say what Paul said imitate me as I imitate CHRIST. Becaues if we imitate a lot of these preachers today many sould will continue to go to hell.
MrShamaron041979 6 months ago
OMG what a church mess!!!!
preacherfemale 6 months ago
Being gay and a preacher is not walking in truth........
mstandme 10 months ago 2
@mstandme Why? I think it's the best way to reach those who have the same "thorn in their side." Black people need to wake up. You'd be surprise how many gay gospel artists are out there, who's music minister to millions of people. The creator can USE who he pleases, not you my dear. Get out of his business, in addition to the fact, it's none of your business who consenting adult sleeps with. PERIOD.
Zowyla 5 months ago
Wow Pastor Troy hit the hammer on the nail at 10:12....and he had pretty convincing evidence.
tstarnes1000 11 months ago 4
PPl r crazy!!!! Homosexuality without a doubt is a SIN!!!
Jataification 1 year ago
There is a child molester at the Liberty Baptist Church in Chicago, IL. His name is Robert Darrel Wilson and he lives at 8824 S. Parnell Street in Chicago, 60620. His phone numbers are 773-488-2987 and 773-488-7438.
This monster is a bishop at the Liberty Baptist Church Liberty Baptist Church Of Chicago 4849 S King Dr, Chicago, IL 60615 » Map (773) 268-675. Stop this monster succubus from destroying the lives of young men. He destroyed my brother who took his own life. Put him on blast!
eveville1 1 year ago
anderson cooper said bishop long DENIED all allegations but he didnt deny anything.. he said he wasnt perfect, he's not the man being portrayed in the news or media or watever and he's been advised not to fight from the pulpit. he didnt flat out call those boys liars but left room for speculation
honeybun33 1 year ago
tHIS INTERVIEW IS SAD. BOTH PREACHERS ARE BOTH NOT ON THE TRUTH. THIS IS BAD NEWS FOR THE CHURCH. I JUST CANT BELIEVE THAT HAGGARD IS PREACHING AGAIN, LORD HELP. R PEOPLE BLIND.
7Jesucristosetsufree 1 year ago
This is just sad let the bible be true and all men be a liar there were laws in the bible God was upset about our falling state
realbeautyness25 1 year ago
homosexuality is an abomination that must not be tolerated or permitted in church. pastors should hold on to their beautiful wives please
MrRealjaga 1 year ago
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@MrRealjaga "YOU ARE AN ABOMINATION" and you should be arrested and jailed for life for being so full of HATE!
jesusdied1 1 year ago
The only problem i have with this whole clip is anderson cooper call them African american....ummm!!!! what are you "european american"... how can they be a country and a contient... jus twondering. I have nothing on the whole foolisness that is going on in these so call churches...IT'S ON YOU ANDERSON COOPER.
beautifullady71 1 year ago
Bishop Long has been a vociferous opponent to gay marriage in the past and this is why many of the gay and lesbian groups are foaming at the mouth hoping and wishing the accusations against him are true. We have only heard one side of the story.
haboreh 1 year ago
@haboreh I agree!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
Anderson Cooper is a big hyprocrite, I know of a Chruch group who tried to contact him about a Wal-mart truck running into stopped traffic and killing a family of four and injuring greatly 2 other people and Wal-mart had there truck driver to lie. Wal-mart lawyers proceed to attack the Church of the people injured. This country is amazing. News media huh?
PastorDowell 1 year ago
Eddie and Ted should be sausage smokers together.
That would fly the flag for equality.
jesterjacobs 1 year ago
jesterjacobs. This whole interview is a Joke! Why would you ask them?
Troy had absolutely 'No Business in the Pulpit' b/c he's gay which is an Abomination to God. Women are allowed to preach. Very bad examples. Women preaching, eating pork, etc are Not an Abominations to God. like Troy is
The Bible also says you should be fruitfull & multiple. And Gay relationships donot have the equipment to do this (they can't have babies together uf their life depended on it).
esquireyes 1 year ago
These two dudes look like they were already gay before any alleged thing happen and now they want money...smh!
letashae 1 year ago
@letashae lol
yorubablk3 1 year ago
Haggard sounds like Church Lady from SNL.
Brahmsfourth 1 year ago
Why cound't CNN get someone besides Ted Haggard to defend the pro-traditional marriage side? What a rigged interview. I have no doubt Long probably messed up, and should be fired, but it says nothing about the church as a whole based on one person.
ace8842 1 year ago
@ace8842 Not only should he be fired if he's found guilty, but he should GO TO JAIL and the church should pay millions to the victims! RELIGION = EVIL!
jesusdied1 1 year ago
@ace8842 i know . that like a child molester giving a speech in support of child protection.lol
honeybun33 1 year ago
@ace8842 Ted Haggard is the PERFECT representative for the church, a HYPOCRITICAL INSTITUTION that reeks evil where ever one goes!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
Listen carefully to what "Troy," the guy on the right says. He's a snake. Homosexuality IS NOT A SIN, it is an ABOMINATION, which means a deliberate rebellion against God. Troy uses the 2 wrongs make it right tactic. The bible DOES NOT HAVE THE WORDS "a woman can't preach" NOWHERE. He's looking for an ally by saying "If women preach, then he should be allowed to be gay in the church." TROY YOU CAN BE GAY, THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL, BUT YOU DON'T NEED TO THE CHURCH TO CONDONE IT!
Jamie072 1 year ago 7
You just preached, @Jamie072...
NotYourTypicalNegro 1 year ago
@Jamie072 EXCUSE ME BUT THE GOOD BOOK SAYS: "A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12)" ALSO! If you're going to cherry pick the bible re gays you need to include what happens to disobedient children! Read Deuteronomy 21:18-21. STOP CHERRY PICKING SCRIPTURES TO PUSH YOUR AGENDA!!
jesusdied1 1 year ago
@jesusdied1 - So you're another "Troy." In your words if children can be disobedient, then you can be gay. You just proved my point GAY PEOPLE NEED TO CONDEMN OTHERS TO CONDONE BEING GAY. I rest my case.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 First of all not that it matters but I'm a happily married man with two teen sons. Next, I understand that children will be disobedient, BUT apparently the biblical god doesn't as it's with his approval that disobedient children should be stoned to death! Finally, you only proved that you're narrow minded and likely intellectually dishonest re this issue!
jesusdied1 1 year ago
@Jamie072 Jury found your case to weak thus you're guilty! 10 years de-conversion
mythicalhell 1 year ago
@mythicalhell Let's hope no one rapes your children, then says it was consensual.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 have you started de-converting yet? I hope so but know you haven't as religion has you hog tied!
mythicalhell 1 year ago
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Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Jamie072 It not a sin you fucking idiot... Don't just READ do so research you black damn idiot... The Vatican Church have removed so many scriptures out of that bible which got so many of you all lost it's a shame. The bible is so incomplete which has so many people lost with translations and meaning... GOD nor Jesus speaks on or about homosexuality if it was a sin I sure both would have spoke about
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 1st of all why did you use my name to discriminate against "black" people? Who told you I was "black?" RACIST PIG!!! Thank goodness, you CAN'T REPRODUCE!!!
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 ur rite ! the Bible doesnt say women cant preach . if anything scripture implies God being able to use who he sees fit, male or female
honeybun33 1 year ago
@Jamie072 IDIOT
mythicalhell 1 year ago
@mythicalhell But you believe Hell is mythical. You're right. So if I say "Go to Hell," you won't be offended.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 sigh
mythicalhell 1 year ago
@Jamie072 You're a Sin GOD nor Jesus spoke about homosexuality.... You devil keep spreading the hate
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Jamie072 Well I'm sure the Eddie Long Preyed many of day's that GOD would remove his feeling toward other men but it did happen... What GOD intended no man can change no priest nor a bishop no matter how much you hate it!!! Deal with it
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 You FREAK. Adultery and fornication are mentioned in the bible. Unmarried people are not to have sex. Married people can't have sex outside of the marriage. DO YOU KNOW ANY VIRGIN HOMOSEXUALS??? Stop changing the subject and LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE, YOU PEDOPHILE!
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 Fuck you, Fuck your mama, fuck everything about your pathetic life... (Hate) do you real think you going to get to heaven..? I mean really and another thing I don't do kid's I only do full grown well developed dick buddy so take dumb ass and go hide under a rock..... Rape Murder and hate thats a straight issue
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 Some people don't want feces and urine in their mouths like you do. Keep your nasty actions to yourselves and leave the children alone. The video is about a homosexual raping children, you moron.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 One thing I don't do is rape children only Pastor's, Priest's & You do that. I sure you will be next to get caught with someone kid penis or ass in your mouth, More and more of you are getting exposed every year. You can't throw a bible script at me buddy. my mother has a Master Degree and my dad has a B.A Degree. I'm very knowledgeable I know that book like the back of my hand so you can go tell those lie's to someone that will believe you because I know better
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 BUT What DO YOU have? . I have those degrees as well plus am a Doctor. STICK TO THE QUESTION YOU IDIOT. Do you know any virgin homosexuals? I don't think so, that's why you won't answer the question.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 But what do you have? NOTHING. I have those degrees also, plus I am a DOCTOR, you loser. Stick to the question, do you know any VIRGIN HOMOSEXUALS? No, that's why you're trying to change the subject.
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 I don't know any VIRGIN GAY MEN I Don't know any VIRGIN Straight Men or Women I do know some 11, 12, 13 & 14 Year old Girl who have got pregnant by grown straight men who can be the fathers and grandfathers. Sir your hate which is a sin is going to take you straight to hell... Seek the truth!!! I'm not going to do this with you OK so leave me the hell alone
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 My point exactly. Drink your feces and urine all day, nobody cares. Remember children aren't born in your mouth, you idiot. Nobody asked you to be straight, so why are you trying to make everyone gay?
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 My Last comment to you.... You fucking retarded what is you point that no virgin's excite anymore...? I sure there is I just don't know and nether do you still I don't get you're point and really don't care. I can't make anyone gay that's not already gay just like you can't make anyone straight, no matter what you do or say. You keep reading the European Catholic Bible (DUMMY)
Tommy4503 1 year ago
@Tommy4503 DID YOU FLUNK KINDERGARTEN??? There are no "virgin homosexuals" because MANY were raped as children. You can't make someone gay, but you can be a pedophile and confuse the kids. LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE. This video is about a gay man raping children and you are trying to blame the children. STAY AWAY FROM KIDS!
Jamie072 1 year ago
@Jamie072 It's pure blasphemy what this man is saying. And who ordained him as a Pastor?
bellcreole 1 year ago
@Jamie072 - Bullshit! There's is nothing on this earth that did not issue from the will of the CREATOR. If the blood can cover a murder, adulterer, ect. it can cover a homosexual. You're quoting Hebrew wisdom, not from the CREATOR. Why didn't Jesus mentioned it. I'm sure there were queens running around then, There is no degree of SIN (things that will hurt you or your character) eating Pork is a abomination, but we'll suck on a rib bone in a New York minute and judge other. Bullshit!
Zowyla 5 months ago
Bishop Eddie Long has been accused in a civil lawsuit. In America, he is innocent until proven guilty.
haboreh 1 year ago
@haboreh, that is a presumption that applies ONLY in law. Also, I don't understand what that has to do with anything.
NotYourTypicalNegro 1 year ago
haboreh. The burden of proof required in a Civil Suit only requires that these 4 plaintiffs prove that their version of the facts is “More than Likely” to be true than Pimp's Eddie Long version. And that's probably not going to be hard to do. Also, in some cases, where the wrongdoing was intentional or malicious, the court may also order punitive damages. Punitive damages in a civil suit are intended to punish the defendant and deter them and others from committing similar acts in the future.
esquireyes 1 year ago
haboreh. This Standard of Proof in a Civil Lawsuit is significantly easier to satisfy than the “Beyond a Reasonable Doubt” standard of a Criminal Case. Criminal prosecutions require a unanimous decision by all twelve jurors, which can be difficult to achieve. Civil Lawsuits require agreement by only ten of twelve jurors for a decision.
esquireyes 1 year ago
@esquireyes - The difference between the burden of proof in a criminal and civil trial is substantial. In a criminal trial, it is 'beyond a reasonable doubt,' about 98% guilty. In a civil trial, the burden of truth is usually called 'a preponderance of the evidence,' which means more than 50 percent. Another standard used in some civil trials is 'clear and convincing,' which means exactly 50 percent. (civil)money vs (criminal)incarceration.
haboreh 1 year ago
@haboreh. What's your point? I just said the same thing. Which is that the difference between burden of proof in criminal & Civil Court is substantial....
esquireyes 1 year ago
@esquireyes - The point is that everyone in North America is aware of the differences between civil and criminal court. The point I was trying to make is that the Bishop has already been convicted in by most people without ever having the opportunity to defend himself in court.
haboreh 1 year ago
@haboreh 100% correct!Teach!..& of those so convinced,if u are not one of them & u simply try to raise rational discourse around it,they, like nytn & esquire come at u like a swarm of angry wasp!
yorubablk3 1 year ago
@haboreh He's GUILTY and is damed to HELL FIRE for "ALL" eternity!
mythicalhell 1 year ago