Oooh I really like this piece! I'm choosing between this, brahms g minor rhapsoday, and Schumann's Aufschwung for a romantic piece that'll pry end up being used for college auditions.... I think I'm going to go with this piece, it's beautiful and has a lot of contrast from what I've heard... not to mention I love a good accending tenor line in a piece of music (Gershwin's spanish prelude has an awesome one)
Oooh I really like this piece! I'm choosing between this, brahms g minor rhapsoday, and Schumann's Aufschwung for a romantic piece that'll pry end up being used for college auditions.... I think I'm going to go with this piece, it's beautiful and has a lot of contrast from what I've heard...
Do u have a right to criticize other people like that?! as long as its not u dont care about how others do! i bet u couldnt do better than that! Ive been playing piano for 10 years and Ive never seen many others so gifted!!! FYI I got a scholorship to julliard! SO THERE!!!!!!! dont criticize other people plzzzz.....
I am a Brahms Chamber Music fanatic. People who are not very in to his music are unaware that Brahms would occasionally write material in his chamber pieces that didn't quite work - That is part of the charm. I am sure Citlalli is playing it as written, although stylistically I prefer her other video.
This is wonderful. I enjoy just watching you caress the keys during the quieter parts. And wonderful passion during the more powerful passages. Bravo !
only thing I don't like is that in the first section of the piece, it just sounds like you are hitting the keys as loud as you can. There needs to be some MAJOR dynamic contrast in the first section to make it interesting at all.
better than a few so-called greats i could mention (ok, I'll mention one - Argerich! This is a performance of comsumate, orthodox musicianship and solid technique which puts Argerich to shame)
Wonderful interpretation. You absolutely possess the richness of Brahms. HOWEVER, as "sweet" as your sound is, the dynamics need to have more contrast. Maybe it's just the recording, but still great overall.
I didn't like the way she played it. I'm learning this right now, the dynamics in her playing don't seem to have much contrast. Rubato's a bit excessive, and it starts a bit rushed. And I don't remember a repeat after the first theme...I did like the level of clarity she played with though, but a bit less pedal would be very nice.
I agree about the excessive rubato. I think the dynamics is fine though. You can tell by the way she contacts the keys that the touches are different(listen to the d minor section) Also, somebody recommended curved fingers, I don't think that is necessary. If your fingers are strong enough, flat fingers are fine, especially for legato sections.
There is a repeat after the first section. A lot of pianists leave it out because of the length of the piece and the fact that the A section repeats exactly after the middle slow section before the coda. You've probably been looking at the Kalmus edition. Check the Henle.
Schirmer Urtext? LOL I think that you have the Gebhard edition published by Schirmer. Check measure 29 (right before the d minor section) in the Henle Urtext. Schirmer doesn't have "urtext". It was publishers like Schirmer that created the need of urtext.
Oops my bad, my piano teacher has me get a lot of Schirmer. Yeah, I have the Henle Urtext, and now that I look at it for the first time in a month or so, there IS a repeat there, although I've never played it. I've only ever played the repeat in the middle section.
First time I play through, I just play it like it is, second time I bring out a few of the chords more, bring out the top note more. On the second repeat, I put in a bit more ritardando towards the end, etc. First time through each is just how it's written, second is much more Romantic.
One of the better renditions on youtube. My one true comment aside from differences of interpretation is your technique. Curving your fingers will improve immensely.
Nice! I'm learning this piece right now, and this video helps me alot with those 32nd note scales (couldn't figure out the timing), thanks for a good performance! xD.
Creo que la gran diferencia entre la interpretacion tuya Citlalli a la de Helene Grimaud es lo pausado el tuyo, en contraste a el ritmo constante de la suya. No tengo la partitura, pues, no se cual interpretacion es mejor pero a mi la tuya era un poco mas interestante por el sentido de pensamiento que hay, las pausas y cambios. Felicitaciones,
I liked it! Brahms is very hard to play in the sence of making the piece sing. Most of the time I hear people playing these pieces and they just play the notes and thats it. Its not musical then, but I liked what you did.
muy bien y muy bonito sobretodo muy bien en el estilo para Brahms, muy bien de caracter, pero no te levantes a mover la silla a media pieza no se ve profesional, ni quites las manos tanseguido del teclado, a veces subes demasiado las muniecas sobre todo la izquierda, en general todo es de muy buen nivel sigue adelante tocas muy bonito.
Very impressed by this performance. I thought your interpretation was passionate and evocative. I found your playing to this more tasteful than Rhapsody #2. Either way, very lovely!
great. i play it too, but I wonder if so much liberty can be taken, shouldnt the pulse go just on and on? And what about the staccatos? please help me, i'm 14 years old and i have to play it for a pianoconcours.
you're correct, i beleive it needs much a much more regular tempo. Brahms loved a tight structure, thematic clarity and logic above out and out attack
actually..disregard my last entry! i listened again and i see that you have great technique, musicianship and control of tempi. you are simply putting your individual interpretation onto it with a lot of 'rhapsodic' characterization and imagination. i do think the middle section could be 'sweeter' and more phrased, and the D minor 'pp' theme quieter.
wonderfully engaging performance of both Op. 79's! Rubato is handled especially well: never interfering with the larger pulse and flow. The exquisite coda of the b minor was appropriately gripping, in a very intellectual way (a distinct phenomenon in well-played Brahms), becoming neither too languid and shapeless, nor too perfunctorily marching into the Major. Fantastic musicality in pieces both technically and musically challenging. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes from Canada!
sounds like bach harpsichord concerto in d minor at some point, shows brahms studied bach
Ingot49 7 months ago
Oooh I really like this piece! I'm choosing between this, brahms g minor rhapsoday, and Schumann's Aufschwung for a romantic piece that'll pry end up being used for college auditions.... I think I'm going to go with this piece, it's beautiful and has a lot of contrast from what I've heard... not to mention I love a good accending tenor line in a piece of music (Gershwin's spanish prelude has an awesome one)
MyIgnoranceParty 10 months ago
Oooh I really like this piece! I'm choosing between this, brahms g minor rhapsoday, and Schumann's Aufschwung for a romantic piece that'll pry end up being used for college auditions.... I think I'm going to go with this piece, it's beautiful and has a lot of contrast from what I've heard...
MyIgnoranceParty 10 months ago
I like that !
MartinaFromPoland 1 year ago
@inblahblahland
Do u have a right to criticize other people like that?! as long as its not u dont care about how others do! i bet u couldnt do better than that! Ive been playing piano for 10 years and Ive never seen many others so gifted!!! FYI I got a scholorship to julliard! SO THERE!!!!!!! dont criticize other people plzzzz.....
hrosen18 1 year ago
I <3 the way you express yourself!!
hrosen18 1 year ago
I <3 the way you express yourself!!
hrosen18 1 year ago
I <3 the way you express yourself!!!
hrosen18 1 year ago
I <3 the way you express urself!!!
hrosen18 1 year ago
A fantastic performance that breathes wonderfully.
kevinleerose 1 year ago
It needs some space. Too busy for Brahms... but she is so gifted!
dweeb43 1 year ago
citlali, grandioso.
miltonmagik 1 year ago
are you a professional pianist? there are false, omitted and collapsed notes in almost all of your performances.
and where's the brute force? this is brahms, not schubert. fingers should be dug deep into the keys, not smacked and released.
it's musically very pretty but a lot of the musicality is misplaced.
inblahblahland 1 year ago
Cool!!!
VladaSunlight 1 year ago
rubatos are acceptable but you should reconsider the amount in some places..
great touch.
lovehanduk 1 year ago
brava!
asliuf 1 year ago
you...are very talented...
(i'm still in shock!)
emilyemily7921 2 years ago
I personnaly think therre are too many mistakes to say that's wonderful but...
maternelle01 2 years ago
i'm now really profficient at this piece, and i've heard it countless times.
could you please tell me where these "mistakes" are, since, as you artfully put it, there are "too many...to say that it's wonderful but..."
seriousbag007 2 years ago
Don't laugh at me, I'm just saying what I think! (sorry for my bad english)
PS:I'm talking about musical mistakes, as wrong accents.
maternelle01 2 years ago
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trustiful 2 years ago
Thanks for your kindness ! Anyway if anybody does not enjoy a piece, he's immediatly handled with traitor ! (sorry for my bad english)
maternelle01 2 years ago
I am a Brahms Chamber Music fanatic. People who are not very in to his music are unaware that Brahms would occasionally write material in his chamber pieces that didn't quite work - That is part of the charm. I am sure Citlalli is playing it as written, although stylistically I prefer her other video.
Tim R.
Timgr11 2 years ago
@Timgr11 That's an interesting thought! Which chamber pieces specifically were you referring to?
OLarney87 1 year ago
I also have the impression that the piece isnt't breathing enough.
dalaedoril 2 years ago 5
amazing RUNS!
m4n4b0y 2 years ago
at point 1:53 playing a little slower and softer would make it sound sooo beautiful.. anyway you did a great job. 10/10
blueberr1 2 years ago
This is wonderful. I enjoy just watching you caress the keys during the quieter parts. And wonderful passion during the more powerful passages. Bravo !
dmcII 2 years ago
i love seeing latin players, there so dramatic and graceful i love this piece
dentonbrowne 2 years ago 2
it's great, very brahms, but sentences not clear enough,
socratesken 2 years ago 5
Good tempo. You play the piece in a very dignified manner that suits brahms.
Arvenohx 2 years ago
your interpretation is slightly different from mine.. but still your technique is great. rofl. its a great piece, love it.
sotongJun 2 years ago
i'm just learning this piece, and it is so awesome. i've always liked it anyway
i listened to this to get a good feeling as to how the piece could be executed, and this is just what i was looking for!!
i love her interpretation of this piece, and her hand movements. very graceful.
:)
seriousbag007 3 years ago
only thing I don't like is that in the first section of the piece, it just sounds like you are hitting the keys as loud as you can. There needs to be some MAJOR dynamic contrast in the first section to make it interesting at all.
supercow3250 3 years ago
better than a few so-called greats i could mention (ok, I'll mention one - Argerich! This is a performance of comsumate, orthodox musicianship and solid technique which puts Argerich to shame)
jegspillerpiano 3 years ago
Wonderful interpretation. You absolutely possess the richness of Brahms. HOWEVER, as "sweet" as your sound is, the dynamics need to have more contrast. Maybe it's just the recording, but still great overall.
vamperera 3 years ago
nice!
xastrax1991 3 years ago
Bravo!!!
yachilee 3 years ago
This is a particularly wonderful interpretation
7514115 3 years ago
A lot of emotions.
bobon47 3 years ago
Clear the pedal a bit
sapatoraso 3 years ago
agree
a83692128 2 years ago
Great performance, very enjoyable.
nadavnaz2 3 years ago
I'm preparing this piece for a recital right now and listened in for some insight.
I LOVE the way you fling the arpeggios near the end of the B section. I've always found that difficult to do tastefully, but you do it nicely.
moditters 3 years ago
sounds wonderful!! this piece is great.
beckerpwnsyou 3 years ago
This is pretty good.
rikiboum 3 years ago
Nice. I just realised that this piece can be made in to a never ending loop.
And i realise that she uploaded her own video. wow. she's cool. :D
superlame64 3 years ago
impresionante bravo chapo no hay palabras exactas para definir como toca porque lo hace genial
oscaradamuz 3 years ago
dear xenobli,if you are learning this ,may i suggest to find a recording by "Radu LUPU"!
i like his brahms best.regards.
hfdmozart 3 years ago
I didn't like the way she played it. I'm learning this right now, the dynamics in her playing don't seem to have much contrast. Rubato's a bit excessive, and it starts a bit rushed. And I don't remember a repeat after the first theme...I did like the level of clarity she played with though, but a bit less pedal would be very nice.
Xenobli 4 years ago 2
I agree about the excessive rubato. I think the dynamics is fine though. You can tell by the way she contacts the keys that the touches are different(listen to the d minor section) Also, somebody recommended curved fingers, I don't think that is necessary. If your fingers are strong enough, flat fingers are fine, especially for legato sections.
The duet section feels a little fast.
phoenixj24 4 years ago
Yeah, I don't curve my fingers when I play this all that much...maybe in some of the slower parts...
Xenobli 4 years ago
There is a repeat after the first section. A lot of pianists leave it out because of the length of the piece and the fact that the A section repeats exactly after the middle slow section before the coda. You've probably been looking at the Kalmus edition. Check the Henle.
khoreno 4 years ago
I actually have the Schirmer Urtext, in which the repeat is completely left out.
Xenobli 4 years ago
Schirmer Urtext? LOL I think that you have the Gebhard edition published by Schirmer. Check measure 29 (right before the d minor section) in the Henle Urtext. Schirmer doesn't have "urtext". It was publishers like Schirmer that created the need of urtext.
khoreno 4 years ago
Oops my bad, my piano teacher has me get a lot of Schirmer. Yeah, I have the Henle Urtext, and now that I look at it for the first time in a month or so, there IS a repeat there, although I've never played it. I've only ever played the repeat in the middle section.
Xenobli 4 years ago
When you do the repeats in the B Major section, how do you diversify your sound? Do you revoice?
khoreno 4 years ago
First time I play through, I just play it like it is, second time I bring out a few of the chords more, bring out the top note more. On the second repeat, I put in a bit more ritardando towards the end, etc. First time through each is just how it's written, second is much more Romantic.
Xenobli 3 years ago
i agree, too much rubato, but i do admire the way she is being bold enough to make a very individual interpetation, and technique is first rate
englishplayer40 3 years ago
Really fantastic!
Ssusato 4 years ago
fanastic, definately not lift music.
justmeanu 4 years ago
One of the better renditions on youtube. My one true comment aside from differences of interpretation is your technique. Curving your fingers will improve immensely.
Otherwise, bravo, and well done.
IWillWalkOn 4 years ago
bravo!!! very good expression and technique, i'm so glad you didn't butcher it like the others on youtube with excessive rubato and harsh dynamics
domxxx999 4 years ago
Tienes estilo propio....No matter..sigue adelante......I love you....Te lleva el sentir de Brahms ...I feel it...
leosglpleoz 4 years ago
Downloaded it!
Nice! I'm learning this piece right now, and this video helps me alot with those 32nd note scales (couldn't figure out the timing), thanks for a good performance! xD.
Tidusauron12 4 years ago
Creo que la gran diferencia entre la interpretacion tuya Citlalli a la de Helene Grimaud es lo pausado el tuyo, en contraste a el ritmo constante de la suya. No tengo la partitura, pues, no se cual interpretacion es mejor pero a mi la tuya era un poco mas interestante por el sentido de pensamiento que hay, las pausas y cambios. Felicitaciones,
GeorgeMaxwellDuPre 4 years ago
I liked it! Brahms is very hard to play in the sence of making the piece sing. Most of the time I hear people playing these pieces and they just play the notes and thats it. Its not musical then, but I liked what you did.
jtone20 4 years ago
Magnifico!! Un orgullo tener tan buenos pianistas mexicanos!!!! Felicidades!!!
Lhumbertocc 5 years ago
muy bien y muy bonito sobretodo muy bien en el estilo para Brahms, muy bien de caracter, pero no te levantes a mover la silla a media pieza no se ve profesional, ni quites las manos tanseguido del teclado, a veces subes demasiado las muniecas sobre todo la izquierda, en general todo es de muy buen nivel sigue adelante tocas muy bonito.
efraingonzalez 5 years ago
Very impressed by this performance. I thought your interpretation was passionate and evocative. I found your playing to this more tasteful than Rhapsody #2. Either way, very lovely!
joshchopin 5 years ago
great. i play it too, but I wonder if so much liberty can be taken, shouldnt the pulse go just on and on? And what about the staccatos? please help me, i'm 14 years old and i have to play it for a pianoconcours.
mistermusic07 5 years ago
you're correct, i beleive it needs much a much more regular tempo. Brahms loved a tight structure, thematic clarity and logic above out and out attack
englishphil38 5 years ago
actually..disregard my last entry! i listened again and i see that you have great technique, musicianship and control of tempi. you are simply putting your individual interpretation onto it with a lot of 'rhapsodic' characterization and imagination. i do think the middle section could be 'sweeter' and more phrased, and the D minor 'pp' theme quieter.
englishphil38 4 years ago
wonderfully engaging performance of both Op. 79's! Rubato is handled especially well: never interfering with the larger pulse and flow. The exquisite coda of the b minor was appropriately gripping, in a very intellectual way (a distinct phenomenon in well-played Brahms), becoming neither too languid and shapeless, nor too perfunctorily marching into the Major. Fantastic musicality in pieces both technically and musically challenging. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes from Canada!
forcommongood 5 years ago
fine techniques! interpretation has depth! good job!
timitalia 5 years ago
Better than Helene Grimaud, good tempo (no rush), clear and musically beautiful. Thanks for your performance.
rejanemaga 5 years ago
Dearest Citlalli, I'm so impressed, it's really excellent playing. Performance is full of passion and temperament. Congratulations.
huhas1 5 years ago
ohhhh great piece, I can't play it cose so difficult for me, great interpretation.
lisztiano 5 years ago
Qué entrada fracasante en Youtube, impecable tu interpretacion. Que seas la bienvenida.
LittleCire 5 years ago