13 soldiers were killed in a suicide attack in Afghanistan today. Why is Michael Moore doing nothing about this war. Because George W Bush isn't president any longer, that's why. I once saw a documentary by a Canadian film maker who proved to me that Michael Moore is the biggest phony America has ever produced.
@prrolg As I read it, you don't believe Michael Moore has anything significant to say because he's some kind of sell out, and particularly beholden to the Democratic party in the US? Is that about right?
@TheStylogicalMap No. I'm not sure how you read all of that into my comment. What I am saying is that Michael Moore is an ideologue who uses lies to get his extremely biased beliefs accepted by as many people as possible. For example, Fahrenheit 911 was a movie made to show that Pres Bush lied us into war and killed thousands of people for oil. But deaths in Afghanistan now are of no consequence because Obama, who he approves of, is commander in chief.
@prrolg That's a good example. So you are saying that in the content of Fahrenheit 911, Moore is so obsessed with convincing his audience of his particular view point that he fails to present an open and balanced view of the events and decisions leading up to the war in Iraq... and according to this line of thought, you reason that each of Moore's public presentations are clouded by similar distortions of the facts. Am I getting it now?
@TheStylogicalMap I think that Moore makes his documentaries by stating what he wants to say and then does anything he must to support his point. Another example, Moore used Charleton Heston in his Bowling for Columbine movie. And he used clever shots and edits to make it look like Heston cared only about gun rights and didn't care a hoot about a little girl who was shot in Detroit just prior to his appearance and the NRA convention. When in fact it is probable that Heston was never aware of it.
@prrolg I hear what you're saying and that analysis may in fact be closer to the truth than we know. So, if we accept that what you say is true, he manipulates media to prove his points, does that actually make his perspective less valid than if he hadn't done that? Though it is ethically reprehensible that Moore distorts the presentation of recent history in order to support his points, does it actually indicate that his points do not have meaning and relevance to our present plight?
@TheStylogicalMap His perspective is immature and misleading. Moore does some of the very same things he condemns. He brings attention to valid issues then distorts the solutions by mischaracterizing the problems
The Congress genuinely doesn't care. Unless people put direct pressure on their Congressmen and Senators, these politicians will continue to do exactly what their corporate sponsors tell them to do.
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let the majority be heard!!! we think you are a fat peice of shit. hear that michael moore? you are less than a dog turd. that is what the majority is saying
myfagan.... you have nothing logical to argue so you criticize his weight!! You know the wonders of the patriot act... Michael Moore is a patriot who acts! Michael Moore is a testament to the first amendment and our founding fathers would be so very proud because he informs our democracy. Our founding fathers realized that without an informed democracy, the democracy would cease to exist! That's why they called it the first amendment! WAKE UP AMERICA AND LETS RESOTRE TRUE DEMOCRACY TO THE PEOPLE
well lets see? his movie sicko was complete shit and false information. im not going to get in a huge argument with someone who believes this guys bullshit. im sure youve heard many people in say they work at a hospital or whatever and yadee etc... I work at two different hospitals and work for the biggest ambulatory companies in my state and watching the movie sicko made me sick.he made the movie so lop sided and is full of shit. do you relize that it is illegal to deny someone health care?
continue.. alot of people dont relize but over half the people who come into the ER have no intentions of paying for thier care and get the same care as people like me who pay for insurance. if you follow up some of the interviews done with troops, the interviewes where heavily edited to make it look like the interviews where agreeing to his points. and as far as LETS RESTORE DEMOCRACY TO THE PEOPLE. and you voted for obama who is taking a fucked up situation and making it much worse.
with the obama plan, he is trying to spend an ungodly amount of money.he has set forth to spend more in 100 days than bush did in 4 years. if his ideas pass it will look good on paper while he is in office, but we are taking away from a budget that is going to screw us later. its like giving someone who is in financial trouble a credit card with no limit to fix thier status. cool. in small print we are going to have an outragous interest rate to pay back. try to find hisstimulus plan and read it
so what if they have no intention of paying ? that is the kind of mentality that is killing the world we live in. the working people pay for the non working,for the poor and the sick,for the mentaly unstable and handicapt. that is what you do. that is what makes a country great ! to care for its weak. it is changing in my country aswel and i hate this selfcentered egoism that is going on now. i do agree with some of what you are saying.....
we should be less selfish as people in the first world country's. we should care for the sick and the weak. that's our responsebility. we are going to go to war if we keep plundering. at some point people will rise up in the third world. we should care for the sick in our country's as much as we can. and we are not poor as a country. it is just a matter of what we want to spend it on. do we need 2 milion nuclear warheads ?? if we make our backyard a good place for all,we will win the day.
it is illegal and a medical facility can get sued big time. not beilng a smart ass but do you really think that people who seek medical attention can be denied? half the people who walk into an er have no insurance and have no intentions of paying for anything, we even treat illegal immigrants, homeless people etc..
if that is true,the why are baby's alowed to die because her mom cant pay ? why does michael have to take a man to a insurance company to get a transplant ?
i live in the netherlands. if i need a transplant i get it. even if i didnt pay my insurance fee (wich is mandatory,not optional). even if im not a citizen. there are to many things wrong with the u.s system of healthcare.
it doesnt. a lot of times the resources may or not be available and ive heard the same complaint from a patients son but i talked to the docter and the patient wouldnt have benifited for treatments. it would have prolonged his painful death and made it really even more misreable for the patient. this happens all the time. and of course the patients care takers may think it is because they arent rich or dont have insurance. it would have been the same outcome if the patient had a million bucks
and wasnt all false information....research most of it, its true. just because you dont like michael, is no excuse to say that the entire movie was shit and false information
continue 3... you think FORCING people to vote on a 1000 page stimulus plan within a few hours is helping democracy? you think placing people in charge of different departments with complete presidental immunity to have audit (so called zsars)is helpful for the people of america or special interest?did you actually try to read part of his stimulus plan? $55million golf course, $500k club house, few million for people in other countries to have abortions, etc.. is going to help american people?
first of all, those are earmarks and are used to pass the act, and second of all what about all the people running healthcare, making billions? and all the people running capitalist america? them stealing money from other people allowing them to buy their own golf course or club house doesn't make it any better
your right our system needs fixing, but what obama and friends are trying to pass is going to cause more waste and isnt going to fix anything. everybody wants to fill thier pockets all the way from the poor to the president. our system isnt bad as its been made out to be but needs alot of work. obama ran on the idea of not accepting ear marks and making a change in washington which he is doing the opposite.
Michael Moore is a courageous and dedicated American. As a Canadian, I pray that his caring and courage will be contagious. I wonder if Americans realize what a great opportunity it is to have Obama in Office. Good luck America. Don't let the 1% rich that owns America, actually run America.
@ManACanadian This. Michael Moore is obviously a very good person, and I hope Obama delivers on his promises. Perhaps the world (including my country, Sweden) will start trusting America one day again - because we really don't at the moment. We don't look up to America, as the mainstream American media wants you to believe. We see you as bullies, and that's what you've been acting like. We can only hope that Obama will be better.
Rosceo85cj... he actually give the majority of his money to charity. He doesn't have any money in stock market etc... because after all would Jesus have a hedge fund or a capitalist IRA, 401k that contributes to the suffering of others? You sir are an uneducated fool. The wonders of the patriot act... Michae Moore is a patriot who acts!
Look; We have come to a cress road. Either we expand into a moral,civilized culture & society. Or, we fall into a miserable, demoralized, enslaved society owned & run by insane dictatorships. It is you & your reality & understanding on how to handle this situation that will determine our future! Do you want FREEDOM or do you want to be a SLAVE? Now, get educated on how to handled the situation. YouTube: LaRouche Warning Oct. 12 is a bankruptcy deadline. The solution is ready Now !
Supercapitalism... isn't it wonderful letting 1% of the world have 80% of the wealth? How/why have "We the People" allowed this to occur? WAKE UP America... we are supposed to have the power... not the mutinational corporations. It's time that we take the power back and begin to create a nation that works for all of us and not the wealthy. The only way we can do this is to replace capitalism with an active democractic citizenry who works every day to creat a nation that is just for everyone!!!
True....lets start with passing a law thats says MAKE IT HERE TO SELL IT HERE...and export this rule to every nation on earth. Then take over the FED, with a true NATIONAL BANK, geared towards development and progress. This and a National Wage System, National Retirement System - would be a start in the right direction. Let the creative, inventive, enterprising make their fortunes on merit still, let all others make a decent Middle Class Income, and never accept slave-wages again.
Capitalism encourages the usurption of resources. The Western world did not become wealthy by treating other nations nicely. We do not engage in fair trade practices. Do I care? Not really. Why? I benefit from this.
4) Capitalism is used to build EMPIRES. In America, We don't like imperialism or imperial classes. We don't bow to queens! What did the evil little Queen of Buckingham palace who gets hauled around in a golden carriage ever produce of real value to others in exchange for all her wealth? Did she really earn that wealth? What about Bernie Madoff ? We must return to the American System of economy! Google: LaRouche on the American Sysytem of economics
3) But, what did he produce of real value to others in exchange for the profit he made? The shareholder does the same thing. The Capitalist is a parasite that feeds of the production of others without having to produce anything of real value himself. He is a drag in the economy & sucks money out of the economy like a tick attaches to a healthy horse. He gets a free lunch. A Capitalist is BAD for any economy. Capitalism is not the American system of economy.
2) Under the real American system of economy, real wealth is measured on ones ability to manufacture & produce something. But, the Capitalist has found a way to obtain money without having to produce or manufacture anything of real value to others. He just makes his money make more money. A privet banker does the same thing. He loans you $1000. You work & produce your ass off & pay him back $1,150. He profits $150 off your ability to produce.
1) Capitalism violates the purpose for money. There are products & services we need & desire & must have in order to survive well as a culture & Nation. We produce a verity of products & use money as the medium of exchange to obtain those different products. THAT IS THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR MONEY! It's just paper! It has no other real value or purpose. If you want more money, you must be able to CREATE & MANUFACTURE something of real value to people.
President Obama mentions the proposal to create a single-payer system during his speechs only to say....He dismisses it as a possible way to reform the healthcare system.
40 milion US uninsured citizens and US bailed out economy really need a National Health Care (Singol Payer) founded by progressive tax (not flat tax) on the capital gains.
Rep,Teapartiers are CEOcommunists...They want you pay your bloody rates to the CEOs gains and private health care bureaucracy!
Theres nothing wrong with wanting or being rich, It's when those that have been successful and made there millions begin to believe that they suddenly know whats best for me. Then the government hand comes out and they begin buying my rights with the wealth and power they have.
400 pound bag of genious.... his bag of genious is much bigger then yours buddy. the fact the you just said that makes you a hypocrite of your username
Poor paethetic liberals. This guy is the liberal equivalent to Alex Jones. He pretends to care about your causes while lining his pockets with your money. Fear,scare tactics. He's laughing all the way to the bank! YOU CRYBABY LIBERALS! 52% for Obama,46% for McCain is not a very large majority. The independents and others that voted for Obama are already seeing through his false promises and campaign rehtoric! Obama is a lame duck already!
" the other side they represent a small percentage" HUH!! Look at the crowds on 9-12-09 then look at the 150 ppl that came to see you.What a complete dope!
The majority was heard on 9-12-09!
All the banks heisted our money on Obama's watch and with his assistance! Didn't Obama push for the bailout prior to the election and afterwards? Didn't Obama load his admin. with wall st types? We know bush did the same but Obama p-p-promised ch-ch-change!
Glad 137 people are really rallied around this freak show. 12 people are clapping really actively. Smoke a joint michael, eat some more off of the capitalism that feeds you. fucking foolish pleb
How dare you insult the white GOP and their token negro Michael Steele! We need to save the Uited States of America by secession and raising that proud Confederate flag. Like that one George Allen(R) displayed on his holy desk. The one Joe Wilson worked to resurrect. That is what we must do to keep the gov't's hands out of our Medicare.
God Bless Cigna and my grandmother they denied chemo too! Let's keep Obama's death panels away from profiteered health care.
Hi moronic democrats your party started all of this. Ever heard of a guy called Barney Frank? Who successfully deregulated the sub-prime market? The impending fall of the bankers (the FED), will give way to an even greater beast called the Amero. This country is fucked one way or the other & with democrats like Barney & Pelosi fucking it up, I question the need for UHC. Moore says the ppl had to force Roosevelt to sign Social Security act? Guess who also signed the Federal Reserve act?
I wished there would be somebody like M. M. in germany!
ok, he took some things out of context to suit his purposes, but he also sensibleized (excuse my english) many, many people, not only in america, for questions of great sozial and political interest.
@lonewatchman: do u know how much it cost to make a movie and put it in the cinemas all over the world? Obviously not. So shut up, idiot.
@darkdragonsoul99: Your Republic´s politicans are (suposedly) to be DEMOCRATICLY ELECTED ...
everyone is building an army. many roads are diverging to 1 point. is everything really this hectic or are more tv and computer screens just covering it.
democracy = majority rule or put it simply mod rule
this country is not run by majority rule the best example of that is our justice system
to convict someone the vote has to be unanimous same can be said to admend our Constitution you know the thing that makes this country a republic the thing our government blatantly ignores because they think we are a democracy
by the way the way our voting system is set up it doesn't matter who the popular vote goes too
No, the vote doesn't have to be "unanimous" to amend the constitution. The jury system nothing to do with whether our political system is a Democracy. And yes, this country is a Democratic Republic, whether you like it or not.
I believe you may be one of the 100 million Michael referred to in this vid.
He's right on corporatocracy but the problem isn't capitalism- capitalism was hijacked decades ago. The problem starts with the debt-fueling Federal Reserve and its system of inflation due to our fiat currency.
He looks at the cause and not the effect. The effect is more and more people on the dole and the elite becoming richer at the expense of the middle class. Socializing/centrally planning our economy will make us all poorer. We'll all be poor if anyone that makes a profit is criminalized.
Rush Limbaugh is a billionaire, do you think he really gives a shit about the little guy trying to feed his family? Greedy corporations have destroyed this country. Our economy has been turned over the banks, insurance companies and lobbyists. They could give a shit what you think and that includes those of you who hate Michael Moore. You are all suckers in their view.
Michael Moore bitching about capitalism while promoting another film that will make him more mega-bucks in his pocket. He's such a shit-bag, and his followers are brainwashed piss-ants
and you glenn beck rush limbaugh ditto head what does that make you. mike uses his money to help many who have not had the opportunity to benefit from the wealth of the top 1 percent. ask the people of traverse city michigan or flint what michael moore means to them. film is just one way to get a point across.
You need to drink some of his koolaid! I guess you are one of those folks who thinks it is perfectly okay to be a taxpaying citizen who got ripped off big time -- remember, that happened on BUSH's watch -- with lots of help, true. So, that's all okay with you?????
You're an idiot. Michael Moore made his money from being a capitalist...yet he pretends to hate a capitalistic society. Keep drinking that koolaid, SUCKER
he's using the system to get his message out. capitalism is the only means available at the moment.
He's a filmmaker. If he doesn't have capital then he can't get his message out. It's the only means available to him at the moment in order to reach the widest audience. I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand.
Um why you asking me if I know what capitalism is. I've read Das Capital and have written dissertations Marx's Communist Manifesto...
Yes. Michael Moore requires "capital" in order to make his films. As much as he can take out of his own pocket to finance his films, he must take out loans and have others invest in his films not to mention dealing with media outlets for coverage and dealing with distribution rights etc.
so then how is he a capitalist? Film makers also have to be on a scheduled permit, arrive 5am on the set and set everything up. check on the staff, pay careful attention to the lighting, focus, zooming at all times. IT'S WORK.
you know what it is?? they watch FOX and they learn how to take one word out of context and make it into a total fiction. Moore is average citizen and always will be because his family worked for a living an so did he. Flint Michigan is not Park Ave NYC. His mom was a secretary and his dad on the assembly line worker i think for GM. Michael always worked hard for his money. The money didnt work for him.
Just to add... he always refers to himself as a filmmaker and we all know that filmmakers are poor struggling citizens when they have blockbusters (ahem farenheit 9-11) in hollywood.
DUDE BUT HE IS NOT USING CAPITALISM. FILM MAKING IS INDEPENDANT WORK THE DEFINITION: Capitalism . typically refers to an economic and social system in which the means of production (also known as capital) are privately controlled; NOW IF MICHAEL GOT $10,000 FOR ME AND $10K FROM YOU TO FUND A MOVIE, ARE WE CONTROLLING THE PRODUCTION? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO,? TAKE OVER THE FILM PRODUCTION IF THE MOVIE FLOPS?" IN CAPITALISM, THE INVESTORS CONTROL THE OPERATION, IF THE MOVIE FLOPS, EVERYONE LOSES. T
OK I SEE THE CONFUSION. YOU FEEL THAT INVESTORS CONTROL THE ENTIRE PROJECT, COMPANY ETC. THAT WOULD BE CAPITALISM. NO DOUBT IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT IN FILM MAKING THE INVESTORS DO IT FOR A PROFIT. THAT IS CORRECT TOO. BUT IT IS NOT CAPITALISM. LOOK AT WEBSTERS: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision...INVESTORS DO NOT OWN THE MOVIE RIGHTS. IT'S STILL MOORE'S. (CONTINUED)
BUT I DECIDED TO DOUBLE-CHECK AND I SEE THAT MOORE ALLOWED DISNEY TO OWN THE RIGHTS. HE WAS A FOOL. MANY PRODUCERS WORK OUT A FINANCIAL DEAL BUT OWNERSHIP STAYS WITH THE PRODUCER. Bob and Harvey Weinstein, the principals of Walt Disney Co.'s Miramax Films division, have personally acquired the rights to ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' bringing the movie a step closer to American theaters. MOORE WAS DESPERATE TO GET THIS MOVIE OUT THAT HE GOT SUCKERED. HE WAS BETTER OFF GETTING A BANK LOAN.
ALRIGHT I DID A SEARCH ON FARENHEIGHT 9/11--> Bob and Harvey Weinstein, the principals of Walt Disney Co.'s Miramax Films division, have personally acquired the rights to the Michael Moore documentary ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' bringing the movie a step closer to American theaters. Although Miramax had bankrolled the documentary, Disney declined to let its art-house subsidiary distribute it. SO MOORE LET DISNEY OWN THE RIGHTS. IN THIS CASE DISNEY ARE THE CAPITALISTS NOT MOORE. (CONTINUED)
silence tax slaves! we millionaires and billionaires we need more cash. Back to work! stop complaining. Your paycheck belongs to big business and we will use the government to extract the cash from you. Back to work sub humans. your purpose in life is to serve the ultra rich people who have always run this country.
you can't defeat us, we own you. back to work, own supplies of cocaine, caviar, and hookers are running low.
Yes, but capitalism is running amok, and corporate America calls all the shots through campaign donations to both parties. I fear not an enemy that takes up arms against us. I fear the greed that has become pervasive in America. That greed will destroy us from within, with no shot being fired.
to the same kid: capitalism is freedom, not fascism--freedom to get ahead for yourself. The only problem is that some people don't know how to take advantage of it, and remain losers. For such losers, in all countries, of course, socialism is much better, or is it? American workers under capitalism were/are much better off than they were in the "workers paradise" of the Soviet Union, not even to mention old red China.
Go tell your sad story to the thousands of employees of ENRON who lost everything and the millions of Californians who were gouged for billion$ by ENRON in their electrical bills.
to thekidd: you have absolutely no evidence that his country is run by the rich. Back to school, Mr., if you ever attended one. No, schools teach the same stupid socialism that you are a slave to.
Glenn Beck is always careful to show his evidence, did you see all the quotes--in his own words--from Van Jones? Now you will get something similar from Obama bush-man.
There is nothing brilliant about the imagination/fantasy of a mind that follows like a kindergardener/stupid kid the Marxist/Leninist program of taking away our hard earned wealth.
Michael Moore surely has a sorry bunch of "troops," rather bored and boring supporters/non-supporters. You are out of business, Mr. They don't even applaud you decently. Watch the tea party express, they are real activists who want a better country.
No, there is no way that there would have been a complete economic meltdown, that expression is/was sheer scare tactics. Actually the cure for the economic ills is/would have been to let the losing banks and other losers fail. So the successful business people can go ahead and build a better economy. Vote for Peter Schiff.
America is broke so theer is no money for anyform of socialized healthcare in America. Michael Moore can take his fat lazy ass back to Cuba and stand if he wants socilaized healthcare.
BUSH gave millions to the corporations, and he and his party created the conditions that required them to do so lest they face a complete economic meltdown.
Not a fact. Bush/Paulson gave WS $700B unaccounted for taxpayer money. Did you listen to this or just make up your weak mind because you don't like MM?
Glenn Beck certainly has more supporters than this guy, and Glenn works with facts/evidence. The truth will win out in the end, not your socialist lies. "You lie."
This fat ass should fall down on his knees and thank the U.S. democracy/republic for the free trade and free speech laws that allow him to publish sheer propaganda/lies in his movies. Capitalism is freedom. Socialism is bondage.
Idiot. Unregulated capitalism is fascism - Bush's grandaddy supported the fascist war machine until Harry Truman shut down the war profiteers in WWII. Learn some reality before you exhibit your ignorance.
Fascist is government owning companies without a dictator.
Communism is government owning companies with a dictator.
Perhaps YOU are the one that needs educate yourself.
How about Obeyme expanding Bush's shitty tyranical laws? Got anything smartass to brag about on that subject?
Do all of you dick-loving liberals think that those of us who don't swing from Obamas' jock, liked Bush or something? Really? You know 1/3 of the voters hate both right????
Gosh dickless hunter, you mean Hitler wasn't a dictator? Would have been news to millions of Germans from around 1932 to 1945. And it seems the "dick" lovers are Republicans whether it's Dick Cheney or some Senators latest lover. As for Obama, he needs to grow a pair and kick right wing ass to take this country and its Constitution back from the the Copirates.
Both parties are the same. How can you not see this?
look at the comments, people don't even know what form of government we have. It's a Republic. Nothing else. No where does it say that this country is a democracy. We are a nation of laws not mob rule.
The Constitution is the foundation for our rules of government. The foundation gives us democracy. Anything else can be turned into fascism - like what we had with Bush. So long as the Dems don't abuse power like the Reps did; So long as the Republicans stop spreading Obama illegal alien, Obama Muslim spy, Obama socialist, and all the other propaganda their talking heads can vomit, we'll be a much better country than we were when the Republicans ruined our healthcare and financial systems.
I agree. Let's all hope Obama passes all the bills that he needs. I hope he gets everything he wants in orders to fix this country.
I see liberals ruling this nation for decades and I hope that whenever Whites speakout with their evil GOP racist party views, they are demonized and shown that they are a cancer and should be removed.
Obama wants bipartisanship. Impossible with what remains of the GOP. The moderates lost and only the fringe being drunk on Rush and Fox are here for Jindals and Bachmans to kiss up to.
That last paragraph is true hypocrisy coming from someone calling mimself LiberalHuntingSeason. There was respect between parties before Rush and Fox started demoniztng liberals.
Beck and Hannity call themselves commentaters, not journalists. Rush is an "entertainer." This is why teabaggers are ill-informed
They are all racist anyways, perhaps Obama will save us from the hate and throw them all in jail.
He should make it a law to have at least 1 bi-racial baby to prove that you are not racest and finally get rid of White people, make the human race truly one race. That would be awsome.
No, no, you liberal scum! Us conservatives should march on Washington with signs calling the President a "Socialist." and "We are not armed... this time." That's right man! We should threaten them with some patriotic treasonous threats. That's what REAL Americans do.
Sounds racist to me. I agree. I want no part of that racist party. They did it to themselves, people are leaving in droves and I can't wait for them to die out because of what they are doing and what they have done.
I saw the same thing you are saying. It's time to draw the line and get rid of these White fucks.
How much more backward can anyone be thinking that student loans make a profit for the banks, they are discounted and government guaranteed. It is the students' own stupidity that they take these loans. There is plenty of education without them. Or do it the old fashioned way--work for your education. That is democracy. That is capitalism.
Why does he want to destroy America? There is no place on Earth where people live better lives. Affrmative action mortgages, afformative action loans, afirmative action jobs, affirmative action housing, free schools for kids, free school busses, Medicare, Medicaid, affirmative action president... So muc support for loosers and not enough?
I don't think he wants to destroy America, he's just pointing out flaws in our country. To me, it seems more like he's trying to make our country even better than it is. Besides, as long as we have freedom of speech, he can say whatever he wants =P
It's true the upper 1% are running this country and the rest of us are feeding the pigs. Everytime you feed the pig with a new credit card debt, or gamble your money on Wall St, you are adding to the problem. There needs to be very strict regulations put in place on Banks and Investment Banks and it needs to happen NOW
13 soldiers were killed in a suicide attack in Afghanistan today. Why is Michael Moore doing nothing about this war. Because George W Bush isn't president any longer, that's why. I once saw a documentary by a Canadian film maker who proved to me that Michael Moore is the biggest phony America has ever produced.
prrolg 3 months ago
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TheStylogicalMap 2 months ago
@TheStylogicalMap You dint unerstand my coment.
prrolg 2 months ago
@prrolg I suppose I dint, but it's all good :)
TheStylogicalMap 2 months ago
@TheStylogicalMap Haha cool answer :)
prrolg 2 months ago
@prrolg As I read it, you don't believe Michael Moore has anything significant to say because he's some kind of sell out, and particularly beholden to the Democratic party in the US? Is that about right?
TheStylogicalMap 2 months ago
@TheStylogicalMap No. I'm not sure how you read all of that into my comment. What I am saying is that Michael Moore is an ideologue who uses lies to get his extremely biased beliefs accepted by as many people as possible. For example, Fahrenheit 911 was a movie made to show that Pres Bush lied us into war and killed thousands of people for oil. But deaths in Afghanistan now are of no consequence because Obama, who he approves of, is commander in chief.
prrolg 2 months ago
@prrolg That's a good example. So you are saying that in the content of Fahrenheit 911, Moore is so obsessed with convincing his audience of his particular view point that he fails to present an open and balanced view of the events and decisions leading up to the war in Iraq... and according to this line of thought, you reason that each of Moore's public presentations are clouded by similar distortions of the facts. Am I getting it now?
TheStylogicalMap 2 months ago
@TheStylogicalMap I think that Moore makes his documentaries by stating what he wants to say and then does anything he must to support his point. Another example, Moore used Charleton Heston in his Bowling for Columbine movie. And he used clever shots and edits to make it look like Heston cared only about gun rights and didn't care a hoot about a little girl who was shot in Detroit just prior to his appearance and the NRA convention. When in fact it is probable that Heston was never aware of it.
prrolg 2 months ago
@prrolg I hear what you're saying and that analysis may in fact be closer to the truth than we know. So, if we accept that what you say is true, he manipulates media to prove his points, does that actually make his perspective less valid than if he hadn't done that? Though it is ethically reprehensible that Moore distorts the presentation of recent history in order to support his points, does it actually indicate that his points do not have meaning and relevance to our present plight?
TheStylogicalMap 2 months ago
@TheStylogicalMap His perspective is immature and misleading. Moore does some of the very same things he condemns. He brings attention to valid issues then distorts the solutions by mischaracterizing the problems
prrolg 2 months ago
18 dislikes? Go back to your daddy to buy you a new mercedes to cheer up... what a bummer!!!! Mike Moore telling the truth... geez *sighs*
innerloop 7 months ago
Most of America agrees with Michael Moore if they willing to admit it or not. Watch his movies, and you'll think differently about him.
TomOzzy123 1 year ago 2
10 year nightmare
MrMrbobblehead 2 years ago
"The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists, written in 1914.
itrainsinoctober 2 years ago
The Congress genuinely doesn't care. Unless people put direct pressure on their Congressmen and Senators, these politicians will continue to do exactly what their corporate sponsors tell them to do.
JonDavidson 2 years ago
why is America spreading democracy to iraq etc when there's no democracy here?
as for michael moore haters.......he's using his films to do something good for the country, you're just using up the oxygen.
kryptoart87 2 years ago
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let the majority be heard!!! we think you are a fat peice of shit. hear that michael moore? you are less than a dog turd. that is what the majority is saying
myfagan 2 years ago
stop barking myfagan
altairzq 2 years ago
nice argument LOL, you ppl have no legitimate argument against Moore so you attack his weight??? Pathetic!
SuperMMfan 2 years ago
myfagan.... you have nothing logical to argue so you criticize his weight!! You know the wonders of the patriot act... Michael Moore is a patriot who acts! Michael Moore is a testament to the first amendment and our founding fathers would be so very proud because he informs our democracy. Our founding fathers realized that without an informed democracy, the democracy would cease to exist! That's why they called it the first amendment! WAKE UP AMERICA AND LETS RESOTRE TRUE DEMOCRACY TO THE PEOPLE
KyndestKid 2 years ago
well lets see? his movie sicko was complete shit and false information. im not going to get in a huge argument with someone who believes this guys bullshit. im sure youve heard many people in say they work at a hospital or whatever and yadee etc... I work at two different hospitals and work for the biggest ambulatory companies in my state and watching the movie sicko made me sick.he made the movie so lop sided and is full of shit. do you relize that it is illegal to deny someone health care?
myfagan 2 years ago
continue.. alot of people dont relize but over half the people who come into the ER have no intentions of paying for thier care and get the same care as people like me who pay for insurance. if you follow up some of the interviews done with troops, the interviewes where heavily edited to make it look like the interviews where agreeing to his points. and as far as LETS RESTORE DEMOCRACY TO THE PEOPLE. and you voted for obama who is taking a fucked up situation and making it much worse.
myfagan 2 years ago
what has obama done that made the situation worse?
wygram 2 years ago
with the obama plan, he is trying to spend an ungodly amount of money.he has set forth to spend more in 100 days than bush did in 4 years. if his ideas pass it will look good on paper while he is in office, but we are taking away from a budget that is going to screw us later. its like giving someone who is in financial trouble a credit card with no limit to fix thier status. cool. in small print we are going to have an outragous interest rate to pay back. try to find hisstimulus plan and read it
myfagan 2 years ago
so what if they have no intention of paying ? that is the kind of mentality that is killing the world we live in. the working people pay for the non working,for the poor and the sick,for the mentaly unstable and handicapt. that is what you do. that is what makes a country great ! to care for its weak. it is changing in my country aswel and i hate this selfcentered egoism that is going on now. i do agree with some of what you are saying.....
lunaticrichard 2 years ago
we should be less selfish as people in the first world country's. we should care for the sick and the weak. that's our responsebility. we are going to go to war if we keep plundering. at some point people will rise up in the third world. we should care for the sick in our country's as much as we can. and we are not poor as a country. it is just a matter of what we want to spend it on. do we need 2 milion nuclear warheads ?? if we make our backyard a good place for all,we will win the day.
lunaticrichard 2 years ago
it's illegal? and that's why it happens all the time?
wygram 2 years ago
it is illegal and a medical facility can get sued big time. not beilng a smart ass but do you really think that people who seek medical attention can be denied? half the people who walk into an er have no insurance and have no intentions of paying for anything, we even treat illegal immigrants, homeless people etc..
myfagan 2 years ago
if that is true,the why are baby's alowed to die because her mom cant pay ? why does michael have to take a man to a insurance company to get a transplant ?
i live in the netherlands. if i need a transplant i get it. even if i didnt pay my insurance fee (wich is mandatory,not optional). even if im not a citizen. there are to many things wrong with the u.s system of healthcare.
lunaticrichard 2 years ago
it doesnt. a lot of times the resources may or not be available and ive heard the same complaint from a patients son but i talked to the docter and the patient wouldnt have benifited for treatments. it would have prolonged his painful death and made it really even more misreable for the patient. this happens all the time. and of course the patients care takers may think it is because they arent rich or dont have insurance. it would have been the same outcome if the patient had a million bucks
myfagan 2 years ago
and wasnt all false information....research most of it, its true. just because you dont like michael, is no excuse to say that the entire movie was shit and false information
ArielDarkBlade69 2 years ago
continue 3... you think FORCING people to vote on a 1000 page stimulus plan within a few hours is helping democracy? you think placing people in charge of different departments with complete presidental immunity to have audit (so called zsars)is helpful for the people of america or special interest?did you actually try to read part of his stimulus plan? $55million golf course, $500k club house, few million for people in other countries to have abortions, etc.. is going to help american people?
myfagan 2 years ago
first of all, those are earmarks and are used to pass the act, and second of all what about all the people running healthcare, making billions? and all the people running capitalist america? them stealing money from other people allowing them to buy their own golf course or club house doesn't make it any better
wygram 2 years ago
your right our system needs fixing, but what obama and friends are trying to pass is going to cause more waste and isnt going to fix anything. everybody wants to fill thier pockets all the way from the poor to the president. our system isnt bad as its been made out to be but needs alot of work. obama ran on the idea of not accepting ear marks and making a change in washington which he is doing the opposite.
myfagan 2 years ago
HEY! that ended too abruptly! WHAT DOES MICHAEL BELIEVE?!?!?!?!
AntiChristAntiFail 2 years ago
Michael Moore is a courageous and dedicated American. As a Canadian, I pray that his caring and courage will be contagious. I wonder if Americans realize what a great opportunity it is to have Obama in Office. Good luck America. Don't let the 1% rich that owns America, actually run America.
ManACanadian 2 years ago 13
@ManACanadian This. Michael Moore is obviously a very good person, and I hope Obama delivers on his promises. Perhaps the world (including my country, Sweden) will start trusting America one day again - because we really don't at the moment. We don't look up to America, as the mainstream American media wants you to believe. We see you as bullies, and that's what you've been acting like. We can only hope that Obama will be better.
zibbaen 1 year ago
it's refreshing to hear someone who is kind of mainstream actually speak some truth for a change.
girlyCheryl 2 years ago 14
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Wonder where this obese prick keeps his money ... offshore ?
roscoe85cj 2 years ago
Rosceo85cj... he actually give the majority of his money to charity. He doesn't have any money in stock market etc... because after all would Jesus have a hedge fund or a capitalist IRA, 401k that contributes to the suffering of others? You sir are an uneducated fool. The wonders of the patriot act... Michae Moore is a patriot who acts!
KyndestKid 2 years ago 5
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LOL ... no, he's just another poser that works you morons just like Al Gore does
baaaahhhh .. .. baaahhhhh
roscoe85cj 2 years ago
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Look; We have come to a cress road. Either we expand into a moral,civilized culture & society. Or, we fall into a miserable, demoralized, enslaved society owned & run by insane dictatorships. It is you & your reality & understanding on how to handle this situation that will determine our future! Do you want FREEDOM or do you want to be a SLAVE? Now, get educated on how to handled the situation. YouTube: LaRouche Warning Oct. 12 is a bankruptcy deadline. The solution is ready Now !
gkgreger 2 years ago
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gkgreger 2 years ago
"Solidarity" we should learn from that. It would be that easy! We need to make them start negotiating!
datarecoil 2 years ago
Supercapitalism... isn't it wonderful letting 1% of the world have 80% of the wealth? How/why have "We the People" allowed this to occur? WAKE UP America... we are supposed to have the power... not the mutinational corporations. It's time that we take the power back and begin to create a nation that works for all of us and not the wealthy. The only way we can do this is to replace capitalism with an active democractic citizenry who works every day to creat a nation that is just for everyone!!!
KyndestKid 2 years ago
True....lets start with passing a law thats says MAKE IT HERE TO SELL IT HERE...and export this rule to every nation on earth. Then take over the FED, with a true NATIONAL BANK, geared towards development and progress. This and a National Wage System, National Retirement System - would be a start in the right direction. Let the creative, inventive, enterprising make their fortunes on merit still, let all others make a decent Middle Class Income, and never accept slave-wages again.
northmeister 2 years ago 2
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Face/palm
Is it a rule you HAVE to be an economic illiterate to be on the Left!?!?!
Capitalism has created more wealth, brought more people out of poverty than ANY other system ever devised. MM needs to shut his fat mouth.
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
Capitalism does not create wealth, it usurps wealth. Until you understand this, you are useless.
evane1989 2 years ago 3
Care to elaborate on such an outrageous claim, comrade?
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
I'm a capitalist. The commie flag is for fun.
Capitalism encourages the usurption of resources. The Western world did not become wealthy by treating other nations nicely. We do not engage in fair trade practices. Do I care? Not really. Why? I benefit from this.
evane1989 2 years ago
you are the one who has to shut something here.
S8derlund 2 years ago
this discourse was much more civil than the townhall meetings. That juxtaposition should tell us something
dvonh2 2 years ago
Mass action? That's one thing he's capable of doing.
ryanskapa 2 years ago
很棒的影片!
qazw213 2 years ago
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4) Capitalism is used to build EMPIRES. In America, We don't like imperialism or imperial classes. We don't bow to queens! What did the evil little Queen of Buckingham palace who gets hauled around in a golden carriage ever produce of real value to others in exchange for all her wealth? Did she really earn that wealth? What about Bernie Madoff ? We must return to the American System of economy! Google: LaRouche on the American Sysytem of economics
gkgreger 2 years ago
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3) But, what did he produce of real value to others in exchange for the profit he made? The shareholder does the same thing. The Capitalist is a parasite that feeds of the production of others without having to produce anything of real value himself. He is a drag in the economy & sucks money out of the economy like a tick attaches to a healthy horse. He gets a free lunch. A Capitalist is BAD for any economy. Capitalism is not the American system of economy.
gkgreger 2 years ago
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2) Under the real American system of economy, real wealth is measured on ones ability to manufacture & produce something. But, the Capitalist has found a way to obtain money without having to produce or manufacture anything of real value to others. He just makes his money make more money. A privet banker does the same thing. He loans you $1000. You work & produce your ass off & pay him back $1,150. He profits $150 off your ability to produce.
gkgreger 2 years ago
1) Capitalism violates the purpose for money. There are products & services we need & desire & must have in order to survive well as a culture & Nation. We produce a verity of products & use money as the medium of exchange to obtain those different products. THAT IS THE ONLY PURPOSE FOR MONEY! It's just paper! It has no other real value or purpose. If you want more money, you must be able to CREATE & MANUFACTURE something of real value to people.
gkgreger 2 years ago
President Obama mentions the proposal to create a single-payer system during his speechs only to say....He dismisses it as a possible way to reform the healthcare system.
40 milion US uninsured citizens and US bailed out economy really need a National Health Care (Singol Payer) founded by progressive tax (not flat tax) on the capital gains.
Rep,Teapartiers are CEOcommunists...They want you pay your bloody rates to the CEOs gains and private health care bureaucracy!
Singol Payer Now!
oddcoupple 2 years ago
i'm pretty sure he weighs more than all of his followers combined, but then again, there aren't that many of them.
rocknerd68 2 years ago
You mean Rush?
ndvuncle 2 years ago
lol yeah i think he means rush
bardoc13 2 years ago
WOW! I'm suprise he actually got a few dozen people to gather for his B.S.
northofmackinaw 2 years ago
Theres nothing wrong with wanting or being rich, It's when those that have been successful and made there millions begin to believe that they suddenly know whats best for me. Then the government hand comes out and they begin buying my rights with the wealth and power they have.
Utubeeatssht 2 years ago
400 pound bag of shit
MostHumbleManOnEarth 2 years ago
400 pound bag of genious.... his bag of genious is much bigger then yours buddy. the fact the you just said that makes you a hypocrite of your username
Halcones445 2 years ago 2
What's really funny, Mr humble.
His SHIT is worth more than your family.
How does THAT make you feel MR.HUMBLE
Rushtrdamus 2 years ago
Poor paethetic liberals. This guy is the liberal equivalent to Alex Jones. He pretends to care about your causes while lining his pockets with your money. Fear,scare tactics. He's laughing all the way to the bank! YOU CRYBABY LIBERALS! 52% for Obama,46% for McCain is not a very large majority. The independents and others that voted for Obama are already seeing through his false promises and campaign rehtoric! Obama is a lame duck already!
albermarle19 2 years ago
" the other side they represent a small percentage" HUH!! Look at the crowds on 9-12-09 then look at the 150 ppl that came to see you.What a complete dope!
The majority was heard on 9-12-09!
All the banks heisted our money on Obama's watch and with his assistance! Didn't Obama push for the bailout prior to the election and afterwards? Didn't Obama load his admin. with wall st types? We know bush did the same but Obama p-p-promised ch-ch-change!
albermarle19 2 years ago
Glad 137 people are really rallied around this freak show. 12 people are clapping really actively. Smoke a joint michael, eat some more off of the capitalism that feeds you. fucking foolish pleb
Steelman442 2 years ago
How dare you insult the white GOP and their token negro Michael Steele! We need to save the Uited States of America by secession and raising that proud Confederate flag. Like that one George Allen(R) displayed on his holy desk. The one Joe Wilson worked to resurrect. That is what we must do to keep the gov't's hands out of our Medicare.
God Bless Cigna and my grandmother they denied chemo too! Let's keep Obama's death panels away from profiteered health care.
ndvuncle 2 years ago
hehehe
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
our country is ran on the golden rule,
he who has the gold--makes the rules!!!
AND THAT HAS GOT TO STOP!!!!!
tazandgypsie 2 years ago 2
Hi moronic democrats your party started all of this. Ever heard of a guy called Barney Frank? Who successfully deregulated the sub-prime market? The impending fall of the bankers (the FED), will give way to an even greater beast called the Amero. This country is fucked one way or the other & with democrats like Barney & Pelosi fucking it up, I question the need for UHC. Moore says the ppl had to force Roosevelt to sign Social Security act? Guess who also signed the Federal Reserve act?
agonizethis 2 years ago
I wished there would be somebody like M. M. in germany!
ok, he took some things out of context to suit his purposes, but he also sensibleized (excuse my english) many, many people, not only in america, for questions of great sozial and political interest.
@lonewatchman: do u know how much it cost to make a movie and put it in the cinemas all over the world? Obviously not. So shut up, idiot.
@darkdragonsoul99: Your Republic´s politicans are (suposedly) to be DEMOCRATICLY ELECTED ...
LowStackTom 2 years ago
yeah and our government is suppose to uphold the constitution but they don't
the majority of our politicians aren't even elected
darkdragonsoul99 2 years ago
@darkdragonsoul99:
from what i can see from over here, this is sad but true.
not even your last president got elected, really. at least not the 2nd time.
but i wish america (and therefore the whole world) better luck this time !
ps: i´m a hobby-pokerplayer and know:
if you want to leave the table with a bigger stack than when you sat down, you have to WORK for your luck.
that means: sit down, learn the game, study your opponents, learn their tricks and use them against them, think ahead ...
LowStackTom 2 years ago
everyone is building an army. many roads are diverging to 1 point. is everything really this hectic or are more tv and computer screens just covering it.
Maziyar 2 years ago
MM is a fucking moron!.. Keep it up ya fat pig!!!..lol
peejaa 2 years ago
I hope Michael Moore reads this because I'd like to point something out
THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY IT"S A REPUBLIC
darkdragonsoul99 2 years ago
It's a Democratic Republic
TJLiberal 2 years ago 2
still a republic people really need to learn what the difference is because some don't seem to even relies there is a difference
darkdragonsoul99 2 years ago
It's also a Democracy, educate your pitiful self
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago 2
democracy = majority rule or put it simply mod rule
this country is not run by majority rule the best example of that is our justice system
to convict someone the vote has to be unanimous same can be said to admend our Constitution you know the thing that makes this country a republic the thing our government blatantly ignores because they think we are a democracy
by the way the way our voting system is set up it doesn't matter who the popular vote goes too
darkdragonsoul99 2 years ago
No, the vote doesn't have to be "unanimous" to amend the constitution. The jury system nothing to do with whether our political system is a Democracy. And yes, this country is a Democratic Republic, whether you like it or not.
I believe you may be one of the 100 million Michael referred to in this vid.
TheRamenAvenger 2 years ago
Ah yes, the man who made millions in the capitalist system, now wants to change the rules for everyone else. Fat, disgusting hypocrite.
lonewatchman 2 years ago
you maaad
ZeusOwnsYou 2 years ago
He's right on corporatocracy but the problem isn't capitalism- capitalism was hijacked decades ago. The problem starts with the debt-fueling Federal Reserve and its system of inflation due to our fiat currency.
He looks at the cause and not the effect. The effect is more and more people on the dole and the elite becoming richer at the expense of the middle class. Socializing/centrally planning our economy will make us all poorer. We'll all be poor if anyone that makes a profit is criminalized.
jwinter228 2 years ago
I thought he was legit. but then I watched the whole thing and realized that Moore is just another Obama Cheerleader.
biometricsislavery 2 years ago
I live in the East Bay. I'd have taken a ride on BART and joined this crowd if someone had let me know it would be happening!
AnnCKeirns 2 years ago
Rush Limbaugh is a billionaire, do you think he really gives a shit about the little guy trying to feed his family? Greedy corporations have destroyed this country. Our economy has been turned over the banks, insurance companies and lobbyists. They could give a shit what you think and that includes those of you who hate Michael Moore. You are all suckers in their view.
mundovibe 2 years ago 2
"Rush Limbaugh is a billionare"
You are seriously a fucktarded dipshit. Rush is not a billionare...Pull your head out of Michael Moore's anus, you goddamn ignorant asswipe
JimboVids 2 years ago
The truth is scary sometimes, uh.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Michael Moore bitching about capitalism while promoting another film that will make him more mega-bucks in his pocket. He's such a shit-bag, and his followers are brainwashed piss-ants
JimboVids 2 years ago
and you glenn beck rush limbaugh ditto head what does that make you. mike uses his money to help many who have not had the opportunity to benefit from the wealth of the top 1 percent. ask the people of traverse city michigan or flint what michael moore means to them. film is just one way to get a point across.
smarnutzm 2 years ago
He needs money to make more movies... as you can see, "corporations" might be wary to help "fund" his projects....
I'm all for a man who uses his rightly earned wealth to get a message out. It's the mark of a man with integrity.
senseimilla 2 years ago
If he had integrity, he wouldn't pretend that he's average citizen that struggles paycheck to paycheck. You must've drank his koolaid
JimboVids 2 years ago
You need to drink some of his koolaid! I guess you are one of those folks who thinks it is perfectly okay to be a taxpaying citizen who got ripped off big time -- remember, that happened on BUSH's watch -- with lots of help, true. So, that's all okay with you?????
AnnCKeirns 2 years ago
Show me where he "pretends" to be an average citizen struggling from paycheck to paycheck.
No really, find me an instance where Michael Moore states truthfully that he is a middle class worker.
Why do you make things up?
senseimilla 2 years ago
You're an idiot. Michael Moore made his money from being a capitalist...yet he pretends to hate a capitalistic society. Keep drinking that koolaid, SUCKER
JimboVids 2 years ago
he's using the system to get his message out. capitalism is the only means available at the moment.
He's a filmmaker. If he doesn't have capital then he can't get his message out. It's the only means available to him at the moment in order to reach the widest audience. I don't see why that's so hard for you to understand.
senseimilla 2 years ago
It's like getting mad at a soldier for using a rocket launcher for peace, when a rocket launcher is obviously not a "peaceful" means...
A necessary evil for the greater good.
senseimilla 2 years ago
do u even know what capitalism is? If you did, u would know he's not a capitalist.
innovations116 2 years ago
Um why you asking me if I know what capitalism is. I've read Das Capital and have written dissertations Marx's Communist Manifesto...
Yes. Michael Moore requires "capital" in order to make his films. As much as he can take out of his own pocket to finance his films, he must take out loans and have others invest in his films not to mention dealing with media outlets for coverage and dealing with distribution rights etc.
senseimilla 2 years ago
so then how is he a capitalist? Film makers also have to be on a scheduled permit, arrive 5am on the set and set everything up. check on the staff, pay careful attention to the lighting, focus, zooming at all times. IT'S WORK.
innovations116 2 years ago 3
I forgot to mention,
I never drank that Iraq War koolaid like you probably did...
Michael Moore totally pwned you with Farenheit 9-11... lul
senseimilla 2 years ago
you know what it is?? they watch FOX and they learn how to take one word out of context and make it into a total fiction. Moore is average citizen and always will be because his family worked for a living an so did he. Flint Michigan is not Park Ave NYC. His mom was a secretary and his dad on the assembly line worker i think for GM. Michael always worked hard for his money. The money didnt work for him.
innovations116 2 years ago 2
Just to add... he always refers to himself as a filmmaker and we all know that filmmakers are poor struggling citizens when they have blockbusters (ahem farenheit 9-11) in hollywood.
Do you take people for idiots?
Who really is drinking teh koolaid?
senseimilla 2 years ago
what? filmmakers work on budgets that are 90% of the time funds from private donors. it cost thousands a day to rent movie equipment.
innovations116 2 years ago
Exactly. He might not be a capitalist but he uses capitalism to make his films. This is undeniable.
I dunno why you're so up at arms... as if that makes him a hypocrite (it doesn't...)
senseimilla 2 years ago 2
DUDE BUT HE IS NOT USING CAPITALISM. FILM MAKING IS INDEPENDANT WORK THE DEFINITION: Capitalism . typically refers to an economic and social system in which the means of production (also known as capital) are privately controlled; NOW IF MICHAEL GOT $10,000 FOR ME AND $10K FROM YOU TO FUND A MOVIE, ARE WE CONTROLLING THE PRODUCTION? WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO,? TAKE OVER THE FILM PRODUCTION IF THE MOVIE FLOPS?" IN CAPITALISM, THE INVESTORS CONTROL THE OPERATION, IF THE MOVIE FLOPS, EVERYONE LOSES. T
innovations116 2 years ago
DUDE BUT YES HE USES CAPITALISM JEEZUS.
You said so yourself, 90% of the funds come from INVESTORS...
These investors are expecting what back, fruitcake?
No dummy... PROFITS... duH!
Jeez, I love MM too but you are like, way too defensive and come off as insanely biased.
senseimilla 2 years ago
OK I SEE THE CONFUSION. YOU FEEL THAT INVESTORS CONTROL THE ENTIRE PROJECT, COMPANY ETC. THAT WOULD BE CAPITALISM. NO DOUBT IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES. BUT IN FILM MAKING THE INVESTORS DO IT FOR A PROFIT. THAT IS CORRECT TOO. BUT IT IS NOT CAPITALISM. LOOK AT WEBSTERS: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision...INVESTORS DO NOT OWN THE MOVIE RIGHTS. IT'S STILL MOORE'S. (CONTINUED)
innovations116 2 years ago
BUT I DECIDED TO DOUBLE-CHECK AND I SEE THAT MOORE ALLOWED DISNEY TO OWN THE RIGHTS. HE WAS A FOOL. MANY PRODUCERS WORK OUT A FINANCIAL DEAL BUT OWNERSHIP STAYS WITH THE PRODUCER. Bob and Harvey Weinstein, the principals of Walt Disney Co.'s Miramax Films division, have personally acquired the rights to ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' bringing the movie a step closer to American theaters. MOORE WAS DESPERATE TO GET THIS MOVIE OUT THAT HE GOT SUCKERED. HE WAS BETTER OFF GETTING A BANK LOAN.
innovations116 2 years ago
They're not "private donors"...
Usually they are INVESTORS...
Like the kind from wall street?
senseimilla 2 years ago
ALRIGHT I DID A SEARCH ON FARENHEIGHT 9/11--> Bob and Harvey Weinstein, the principals of Walt Disney Co.'s Miramax Films division, have personally acquired the rights to the Michael Moore documentary ''Fahrenheit 9/11,'' bringing the movie a step closer to American theaters. Although Miramax had bankrolled the documentary, Disney declined to let its art-house subsidiary distribute it. SO MOORE LET DISNEY OWN THE RIGHTS. IN THIS CASE DISNEY ARE THE CAPITALISTS NOT MOORE. (CONTINUED)
innovations116 2 years ago
"he wouldn't pretend that he's average citizen"
That's what your millionaire heroes at Fox do. They lie.
MM has PUBLICLY joked about the fact that he is now one of the richest 2% in America - the very people he's going after.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
when did this happen? i'm sad i missed it i live in san francisco and would have gone :(
TheoVanDerDeer 2 years ago
But this fat guy, who is just promoting his latest movie, is worth around $100 million.
He's made millions from his dis-info films.
His movie distributer is a rampant Zionist.
Who is this Michael Moore? Why is he being promoted?
swinderby 2 years ago
They cut out his last sentence, GET INTO MY BELLY I"M GOING TO EAT YOU!!!!
leftwingwacko 2 years ago
Wow. Great speech. I'm anxious to find out the 'challenge' in the new film.
PattyMMelt 2 years ago
What do those picket signs say? o_O
Felorah 2 years ago
silence tax slaves! we millionaires and billionaires we need more cash. Back to work! stop complaining. Your paycheck belongs to big business and we will use the government to extract the cash from you. Back to work sub humans. your purpose in life is to serve the ultra rich people who have always run this country.
you can't defeat us, we own you. back to work, own supplies of cocaine, caviar, and hookers are running low.
Yours in oppression,
The Rich
copcorona 2 years ago 2
My resonse was to: imtang0708 below! sorry
rjsmith44 2 years ago
Yes, but capitalism is running amok, and corporate America calls all the shots through campaign donations to both parties. I fear not an enemy that takes up arms against us. I fear the greed that has become pervasive in America. That greed will destroy us from within, with no shot being fired.
sep0507 2 years ago
to the same kid: capitalism is freedom, not fascism--freedom to get ahead for yourself. The only problem is that some people don't know how to take advantage of it, and remain losers. For such losers, in all countries, of course, socialism is much better, or is it? American workers under capitalism were/are much better off than they were in the "workers paradise" of the Soviet Union, not even to mention old red China.
focus21x 2 years ago
focus21x..."capitalism is freedom"...
Go tell your sad story to the thousands of employees of ENRON who lost everything and the millions of Californians who were gouged for billion$ by ENRON in their electrical bills.
Don't confuse Capitalism with Greed !!
librophile 2 years ago
to thekidd: you have absolutely no evidence that his country is run by the rich. Back to school, Mr., if you ever attended one. No, schools teach the same stupid socialism that you are a slave to.
focus21x 2 years ago
Glenn Beck is always careful to show his evidence, did you see all the quotes--in his own words--from Van Jones? Now you will get something similar from Obama bush-man.
focus21x 2 years ago
"The Judas of American democracy"--spread the word, let freedom ring.
focus21x 2 years ago
There is nothing brilliant about the imagination/fantasy of a mind that follows like a kindergardener/stupid kid the Marxist/Leninist program of taking away our hard earned wealth.
focus21x 2 years ago
Michael YOU are in that top 1%. You did it through hard work and brilliant imagination. Don't paint them all with the same brush
1960DLB 2 years ago
If Moore moores over to Cuba or Venezuela, I doubt that they will trust him, the Judas of American democracy.
focus21x 2 years ago
Michael Moore surely has a sorry bunch of "troops," rather bored and boring supporters/non-supporters. You are out of business, Mr. They don't even applaud you decently. Watch the tea party express, they are real activists who want a better country.
focus21x 2 years ago
No, there is no way that there would have been a complete economic meltdown, that expression is/was sheer scare tactics. Actually the cure for the economic ills is/would have been to let the losing banks and other losers fail. So the successful business people can go ahead and build a better economy. Vote for Peter Schiff.
focus21x 2 years ago
America is broke so theer is no money for anyform of socialized healthcare in America. Michael Moore can take his fat lazy ass back to Cuba and stand if he wants socilaized healthcare.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 2 years ago
this guy is touting Revolution? What do you think Obama did? He gave billions to the corporations and tyhe public agreed ? Such sheep
Panchee123 2 years ago
BUSH gave millions to the corporations, and he and his party created the conditions that required them to do so lest they face a complete economic meltdown.
Anomnomnomamous 2 years ago 3
Obama has give wall street more thin Bush did and they are doing the same thing!
killergames187 2 years ago
Not a fact. Bush/Paulson gave WS $700B unaccounted for taxpayer money. Did you listen to this or just make up your weak mind because you don't like MM?
thekidde63 2 years ago
Glenn Beck certainly has more supporters than this guy, and Glenn works with facts/evidence. The truth will win out in the end, not your socialist lies. "You lie."
focus21x 2 years ago 2
Glenn Beck is a pathological liar. Where do you get your input - the sewer?
thekidde63 2 years ago
This fat ass should fall down on his knees and thank the U.S. democracy/republic for the free trade and free speech laws that allow him to publish sheer propaganda/lies in his movies. Capitalism is freedom. Socialism is bondage.
focus21x 2 years ago
Idiot. Unregulated capitalism is fascism - Bush's grandaddy supported the fascist war machine until Harry Truman shut down the war profiteers in WWII. Learn some reality before you exhibit your ignorance.
thekidde63 2 years ago 2
Fascist is government owning companies without a dictator.
Communism is government owning companies with a dictator.
Perhaps YOU are the one that needs educate yourself.
How about Obeyme expanding Bush's shitty tyranical laws? Got anything smartass to brag about on that subject?
Do all of you dick-loving liberals think that those of us who don't swing from Obamas' jock, liked Bush or something? Really? You know 1/3 of the voters hate both right????
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
Gosh dickless hunter, you mean Hitler wasn't a dictator? Would have been news to millions of Germans from around 1932 to 1945. And it seems the "dick" lovers are Republicans whether it's Dick Cheney or some Senators latest lover. As for Obama, he needs to grow a pair and kick right wing ass to take this country and its Constitution back from the the Copirates.
thekidde63 2 years ago
Both parties are the same. How can you not see this?
look at the comments, people don't even know what form of government we have. It's a Republic. Nothing else. No where does it say that this country is a democracy. We are a nation of laws not mob rule.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
The Constitution is the foundation for our rules of government. The foundation gives us democracy. Anything else can be turned into fascism - like what we had with Bush. So long as the Dems don't abuse power like the Reps did; So long as the Republicans stop spreading Obama illegal alien, Obama Muslim spy, Obama socialist, and all the other propaganda their talking heads can vomit, we'll be a much better country than we were when the Republicans ruined our healthcare and financial systems.
ndvuncle 2 years ago
Oh ok. Problem solved then I guess.
Thank god for Obama!
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
No. Problem nearly solved. Thank God, Republicans are powerless and Bush is out of office.
ndvuncle 2 years ago
I agree. Let's all hope Obama passes all the bills that he needs. I hope he gets everything he wants in orders to fix this country.
I see liberals ruling this nation for decades and I hope that whenever Whites speakout with their evil GOP racist party views, they are demonized and shown that they are a cancer and should be removed.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
Obama wants bipartisanship. Impossible with what remains of the GOP. The moderates lost and only the fringe being drunk on Rush and Fox are here for Jindals and Bachmans to kiss up to.
That last paragraph is true hypocrisy coming from someone calling mimself LiberalHuntingSeason. There was respect between parties before Rush and Fox started demoniztng liberals.
Beck and Hannity call themselves commentaters, not journalists. Rush is an "entertainer." This is why teabaggers are ill-informed
ndvuncle 2 years ago
The name was for us as in "team liberal".
They are all racist anyways, perhaps Obama will save us from the hate and throw them all in jail.
He should make it a law to have at least 1 bi-racial baby to prove that you are not racest and finally get rid of White people, make the human race truly one race. That would be awsome.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
No, no, you liberal scum! Us conservatives should march on Washington with signs calling the President a "Socialist." and "We are not armed... this time." That's right man! We should threaten them with some patriotic treasonous threats. That's what REAL Americans do.
God help our health insurance companies!
ndvuncle 2 years ago
Sounds racist to me. I agree. I want no part of that racist party. They did it to themselves, people are leaving in droves and I can't wait for them to die out because of what they are doing and what they have done.
I saw the same thing you are saying. It's time to draw the line and get rid of these White fucks.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago
How much more backward can anyone be thinking that student loans make a profit for the banks, they are discounted and government guaranteed. It is the students' own stupidity that they take these loans. There is plenty of education without them. Or do it the old fashioned way--work for your education. That is democracy. That is capitalism.
focus21x 2 years ago
LMFAO @ 16:45
blackberryjuice1 2 years ago
What a Judas, betraying American democracy, which allowed him to get rich, from free enterprise only.
focus21x 2 years ago
Democracy is not what America is. It is a plutocracy run by the very rich - how stupid are you?
thekidde63 2 years ago
you're 100% right "thekidde63"
It is no longer ...
BY THE PEOPLE ... FOR THE PEOPLE.
The USA has become ...
BY THE CORPORATIONS ... FOR THE CORPORATIONS
librophile 2 years ago
Moore is delusional if he thinks government can do anything other than taxes and wage war. They fail at everything, e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
CheekyMonkey888 2 years ago
It may come as a suprise to you, but most rich people are rich because they WORK HARDER!
BlueSkies360 2 years ago
Really? I'd like to see some stats to prove that. Because you wouldn't just write your opinion on here as if it's a fact, would you?
Gamdursol 2 years ago
Why does he want to destroy America? There is no place on Earth where people live better lives. Affrmative action mortgages, afformative action loans, afirmative action jobs, affirmative action housing, free schools for kids, free school busses, Medicare, Medicaid, affirmative action president... So muc support for loosers and not enough?
BlueSkies360 2 years ago
I don't think he wants to destroy America, he's just pointing out flaws in our country. To me, it seems more like he's trying to make our country even better than it is. Besides, as long as we have freedom of speech, he can say whatever he wants =P
TiNGE24 2 years ago 2
50% of workers pay 0 taxes. 1% pay 40%. That's way too much democracy.
BlueSkies360 2 years ago
god - he is fat.
And rich- this guy lives the hi-life like no other.
FreeAgain2 2 years ago
Jealous much?
Haha, you gotta love poor right-wingers.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
It's true the upper 1% are running this country and the rest of us are feeding the pigs. Everytime you feed the pig with a new credit card debt, or gamble your money on Wall St, you are adding to the problem. There needs to be very strict regulations put in place on Banks and Investment Banks and it needs to happen NOW
Boomer1949 2 years ago
Seriously michael should run for president.. !!
samborna1002 2 years ago
Michael Moore, excellent as usual.
5 stars.
MarquisdeBarrabas 2 years ago
Somebody tell this fat fuck that this is a Republic and ask him if he gave away his millions to any poor people?
I like rich people, they create jobs. I'm too proud for handouts.
LiberalHuntingSeason 2 years ago