Bill O'Reilly Exposes Glenn Beck On Communism?

[FuckMeatStew]

Lol communism is for losers, which is why there is no soviet union anymore. But anywho, I don't think either of them like communism. Who does? Nobody actually wants to work for pennies a day, its an insane fantasy to say otherwise.

[BramSLI1]

If this doesn't prove that Faux Snooze is full of crap nothing will!

[whatoneknows]

Nothing will change if Glenn is gone. Glenn is half himself, delusional, a quarter slapstick because he is allowed to be under his foxy orders and another quarter puppet, whose lines are read from prompter and whose emotions are practiced. He is only there because they pay him to be that polarizing. Because he takes heat off of OReilly's rigid, rude bs, and simultaneously entraps minds in their mindless programming.

[fasttyper888]

Is this the best you can come up with???? This guy in the clip is a moronic tool!!!

[fasttyper888]

Is this the best you can come up with???? This guy in the clip is a moronic tool!!!

[noblegaijin]

When you want to step up and actually refute the points Glenn is making, or actually justify communism, then we can all have a discussion.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ReDevilJR I never intended to give Beck a full blasting on the video. Just a point out really. Does Beck really deserve anything more? I wouldn't think so.

[mire005]

@Zachish America doesn't have that great living condition compared to the rest of the western/modern/socialist world. Check out any of those 'most livable cities' lists - mostly Continental Europe, Austalia/NZ and Canada. So if you've got heaps of cash those cities are the nicest. And if you don't have cash socieites that take the best parts from Capitalism and Socialism will obviously have a better quality of life from a utilitarian point of view.

[Fantazmac]

I watched the whole video and am still waiting for the Mr. Beck to stutter. I will make this simple. To 'The Vegan Marxist'... you're an idiot!

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@Fantazmac Right back at ya! ;)

[Fantazmac]

@RedAntLiberationArmy

I was expecting a better comeback then that. You just proved my point so feel free to refer to my previous comment.

[TheZachish]

@Fantazmac what the sad thing is the youth that hail to the Marxist philosophy do not realize they would in fact be nothing more than an ANT, in the eyes of their government. And not a red ant with a powerful bite, but a poor normal worker ant.

and does he think his perfect Marxist utopia would have created let alone even let him use YouTube? I think not. he can’t explain away all the atrocities committed by every Marxist gov. to ever exist, as shown below ignore it and it will go away.

[TheZachish]

Communist are 'free thinkers'? how was that soviet adequate housing, adequate health care, adequate food, adequate work, genocides, forced famines and re education camps... oh those where the days. lol yes communism just did not get a fair shake... I suggest you got Putin to rebuild a mini union and you can go live in the Marxist utopia.

Communism could only cool if you are one of the top dogs... which YOU would not be. YOU would be a nameless worker, who dies with nothing.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish Well, let's see, 90% of Chinese citizens, while under Mao's rule, had free health adequate health care, the economy was up in both China & the USSR at an alarming numbers, there were no food shortages, & when it comes to the famine that took place in China, I "lol" when you claim it was forced. Please, with your almighty wisdom, show me the famine was FORCED!? And yeah, it's nice how you attack camps when every major country at the time had one, including the U.S. Nice try though.

[TheZachish]

@RedAntLiberationArmy have you ever heard of a little place called the Ukraine?

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i will address the great Mao separately

[TheZachish]

@RedAntLiberationArmy  as for your great HERO of the people Mao from Wikipedia

Conversely, Mao's social-political programs, such as the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution, are blamed for costing millions of lives, causing severe famine and damage to the culture, society and economy of China.

Mao's policies and political purges from 1949 to 1976 are widely believed to have caused the deaths of between 50 to 70 million people.

but who cares they had Health care Right?

[TheZachish]

@RedAntLiberationArmy were those famines forced enough for you or were they just evil western propaganda... if you think they did not happen you are as bad as the Holocaust deniers.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish I never stated that the famine didn't exist. Apparently you're just taking my words out of context. I stated that the famine wasn't forced, but rather was an incident that took place due to a failure, in which wasn't intentional to happen. Mao never wanted to hurt his people & never wanted the famine to take place, & to claim that he did is just ignorant. The famine could've been prevented, but it happened anyways. It's just like Katrina to America. Or swine flu in Mexico.

[TheZachish]

@RedAntLiberationArmy  Stalin's Ukraine famine was not forced? So the people of the Ukraine willingly gave ALL their food to Russia? No... now if Stalin who killed 40ish million people did that, why would I think Mao who killed around 60ish million people would not orchestrate a forced famine. I can't claim to know if China's famine was 'intentional' or not, but regardless it was caused by policies of your preferred form of government, so that would almost make it harder to defend.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish The Russian famine is totally different from China's. But also keep in mind that Stalin was an authoritative figure. I don't support everything he did, nor do I attack everything he did. But one has to understand that he was a man, not the ideal of Communism wrapped in one package. He made mistakes, intentional & unintentional. The authoritarian policies brought forth, although were not under Communist ideal, it was used to protect the country. Though, it cost lives. cont..

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish I represent an ideal, not a man. An ideal that helps bring the working class people & peasantry a voice. A voice that dominates itself over profit-seeking. Venezuela right now is bringing forth this voice in great honor, & without the loss of life. We've advanced within our ideal, & we've learned from our mistakes, as we have through our success. Stalin was not the best, but no leader ever really is perfect, nor un-corruptible. But an ideal lives forever & I'll fight for it, not man.

[TheZachish]

@RedAntLiberationArmy therein lies the problem you may not idealize the man but you WILL serve the man regardless of who he is regardless of how ruthless he becomes you will have no choice. What people in the history of the world have ever been more comfortable or had better living conditions then the average American? USSR? NO, China? No, Vietnam No, Cuba No, North Korea HELL NO! Please point me to any communist state that even had a living condition that compared to the US.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish There's your first mistake. You like calling these countries a "Communist State". But if you were to ever do any research on Communism, you would've realized that Communism represents a classless, stateless society. If there is still class differences, if there is still a ruling State, then you don't have Communism. At most, Socialism possibly, if not, then State-Capitalism.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish And what do you mean by living conditions? Under the USSR, if you actually do any research on economical advances & benefits within the USSR, you would've noticed the higher wage benefits to the working class people. In China, the same took place, & even 90% of the population had free healthcare provided for them, in which America has yet to even do that. And when it comes to Cuba, I'll send you a link on them to show you why they're better than America economically.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@TheZachish Btw, North Korea isn't Communist any longer. They go by what they consider "Juche". Which is a revisionist replacement to Socialism, in which calls for individual independence & isolation.

[Rhinostampedes]

@RedAntLiberationArmy If you think Communism is great...then get the hell out and live there and not come back....I'm from China...

[BorislavX]

I was born in Ukraine and grew up in a Socialist regime that espoused Marxism. From personal experience I can tell you that this is an oppressive form of government which tramples on human rights. My grandfather was thrown in jail by Stalin for 10 years.

Wise up child.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@BorislavX I find it humorous that you're attacking Communism through your personal experience within the Soviet Union when you were growing up in the times of reforms & de-stalinization programs being implemented, ranging from Khrushchev to Gorbachev. During those times, yes, it was very oppressive & the Soviet Union was going down hill during those times. And idk your grandfather, & I don't support everything Stalin did since he was not a FULL Marxist, but he could've deserved it, idk.

[BorislavX]

@RedAntLiberationArmy

I find it humorous that a child making these videos in his moms basement is defending a regime that slaughtered millions of people.

[TheZachish]

@BorislavX some people just like to romanticize the past, like people do with the 80's they forget there was no x-box, internet, or cell phones.

People like RedAnt do the same with Communism; they forget or neglect to ever learn the horror stories associated with and atrocities committed by these all powerful regimes absolute power corrupts absolutely so sad they would hand over their freedoms to a Stalin or Mao type of person and trust them to do right by them.

[EuroAmericanReich]

Communist manifesto preaches government takeover of private property, and even dissolving the family to have kids raised from the state in order to "Save children from the exploitation of their parents".

Communists lie just as people who live up north wear warm clothing to survive.

Strip communists of their rights, and deport them to North Korea, China, Cuba, or whatever communist utopia (Craphole tyranny) they see fit.

Hitler is right. Heil Hitler.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@EuroAmericanReich you talk about tyranny, yet then say "Heil Hitler"? yep, enough said lol.

[neue01]

No one man can say what is overpricing for all others. In a market if it's overpricing to you then you will not buy the painting. It is obviously not overpricing to others who are willing to pay. Why would anybody else have say over what others want in their lives or what prices should be? Why is it acceptable to outlaw anything? It becomes very draconian and totalitarian to being implementing coercive laws around peoples personal decisions. People should be free.

[neue01]

Marx established value through what is called labor side theory. The idea that value is derived from labor. If something takes 10 hours to build it has more value then something that took 1 hour. By this theory he could not explain the value of art which sometimes only takes one person one hour to create one painting full of splashes of paint. Conversely, Adam Smith derived value through supply and demand. Smith explains the paintings value in terms of low supply and high demand.

[neue01]

Marxist labor side economic "theory" has been shown to be a joke. Marx and his definition of value were far off base. Value is not generated from labor but instead by supply and demand. Marx couldn't even explain the value of art through labor side theory. ;)

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@neue01 Instead of claiming it's "failure", how about you show me an example on why is such?

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 Under a Capitalist system value is perceived as such because of the market. But, without labor and further the labor of the proletariat there is no supply and no demand. Therefore value is equivalent to labor.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms Labour has it's own supply and demand. Low demand for labour with high supply will drive price (value) down. Conversely, High demand for labour and low supply will drive prices (value) up. Price is not static but instead fluctuates in relation to it's supply and demand.

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 I know this, but, again without labor there is no supply and demand in any aspect because nothing is happening except the bourgeois's whining and referencing to Atlas Shrugged.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms This is why labour has demand. It is the power of labour in a liberal market and why valuable labour is resourced toward valuable demands on a societal level. Communism on the other hand relies on central planning and puts power into the hands of the few government officials that are needed to dictate supply and demand. Markets put power in the hands of the people and the individual.

Atlas Shrugged Rocks! ;)

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 You really know nothing about Communism do you? Go and read Marx rather than listening to Glenn Beck.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms I most likely know more then you might think... I am not a fan of glenn beck. ;)

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms I most likely know more then you might think... I have read marx capital. It was what I read initially before I became interested in economics. I am not a fan of glenn beck. ;)

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms I was interested in marx and read capital in the beginning. My interest in economics is how I quickly outgrew it. ;)

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms BTW. There is supply and demand without labour. Individuals will always need resources like land, food, air, etc. These things in large do not have labour behind them but yet have supply and demand. ;)

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 Of course there is demand without labor, but without labor there is no supply. Land and food have labor behind them.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms There is no labor behind many resources like land. The fact that labor does exist behind many products though means nothing to your argument. Labour exists and that is wonderful... it is part of the eco-system of supply and demand.

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 Labor is needed to supply most things though. I can hardly tell what you are even trying to argue any more. Am I supposed to go "hmm hair doesn't require labor to be supplied, therefore I am wrong"?

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms Your concept of value based on labour is wrong. Value is based on supply and demand. The fact that labour has demand in creating products does not disprove supply and demand it only supports it.

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 No, do I need to restate my position? You fail to see anything, I not deny that labor has supply and demand but when speaking of such under normal circumstance is concerning product. Without labor product cannot be supplied. There would only be demand. Therefore the value of product is rooted in the labor done to supply it.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms Again, not all things require labor. There are resources like land, water, air, etc that require no labor. Beyond that the fact that labour has demand in making products is pretty obvious. Nobody here is saying that labour has no value. What are you driving at?

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 By themselves those resources require no labor but they have been privatized. All of them. Bottled water, Oxygen Bars, Real Estate, etc.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms And is there some sort of problem with that? If people voluntarily choose to visit an oxygen bar do you take some sort of issue with that?

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@neue01 When did I say it was bad? I am simply saying that labor goes unto those things. Air especially is a commodity, air conditioning man. You simply stated that no labor goes into such resources but much labor goes into the supply of all of them.

[neue01]

@MyCrownOfWorms If value is equivalent to labour. Then explain the value of a Jackson Pollock painting which takes one hour for one man to simply create but is worth millions of dollars or has high value? One Jackson Pollock holds more value then my house which has more hours of labour in it then 100 paintings by pollock. Where is the logic in this according to labour side economics? ;)

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@neue01 That sounds like the overpricing of labor to me. The more beneficial it would be to the community, the more a person's labor values. But to over sell a painting like that, in which would cost a lot less if we did ourselves, then that's exploitation against the consumer & shouldn't be allowed within any market.

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy No one man can say what is overpricing for all others. In a market if it's overpricing to you then you will not buy the painting. It is obviously not overpricing to others who are willing to pay. Why would anybody else have say over what others want in their lives or what prices should be? Why is it acceptable to outlaw anything? It becomes very draconian and totalitarian to being implementing coercive laws around peoples personal decisions. People should be free.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@neue01 I wish you people would actually take the time to understand that in Communism, money would be eliminated & we'd operate our markets based on resources & communal help through the acts of democratic decisions made through the community. There would be no price, but rather the community looking out for each others' needs - a communal family.

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy You can not eliminate money because money is simply a placeholder for labour. In any system you will always get an issue of "fairness" in regard to peoples time and efforts (their labour). People always value their own labour higher then what others might. A market is what is needed to find and negotiate the equilibrium between what people perceive their value to be and what society sees their value to be. This is only one of the many strengths money holds as a concept. ;)

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy Further, I have taken the time to study communism and read marx's capital. I was interested in communism at a younger age and it's what actually got me to explore economics. I moved past communism early on as I began to educate myself more and more on these issues. ;)

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy Communism is interesting... it has some very poetic ideas wrapped up in a very flawed and silly conception of economics. There is a lot of bitterness involved and a heavy hand of moral economic and social authoritarianism to boot.

[1992kriss]

@RedAntLiberationArmy No, no, no. Communism is about government taking all away from people and giving them minimum they can. So in communism basicly you work, work and work and what you get is bit of food and some close. And those who dont work get slightly less. Communism doesnt work, unles you meen mass genocides of your own people!

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@1992kriss And may I ask where you learned this? Kindergarten or Fox News?

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy Further, If you value labor so much, how can "overpricing" of labour be such a bad thing? Wouldn't you support this as it places huge value on labor and rewards it so handsomely?

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms No society as a whole choices the worth of everything, long ago actors were seen as lowly and thus payed poor at that time were as today its the opposite. They still provide the same service but we invest in movies, and toys and figures. And yes people in factories may make the action figure but if the actor wasn't making movies there would be no action figure to make, thus no jobs.

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@ASexyChef What does that have to do with anything? Are you telling me the only thing factory workers make is toys? And further that the only action figures in the world are from movies? How does the perception of work prove that Labor =/= Value?

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms its an analogy, maybe you should read what that is cause if you can't grasp that one thing, I really doubt I can have the tolerance to even try to talk to you. That statement is so beyond basic understanding I would of assumed a 5 year old to grasp an analogy. But if you're not wise enough to not take everything literal, than please do not respond!

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@ASexyChef It realize it is an analogy but it is an extremely poor one. If you're going to start throwing out petty insults at least make them good ones.

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms it was not a petty insult from your statement I was positive you clearly don't know what an analogy was. And the analogy is fine I am sorry it doesn't support you view. But its simple, if no one creates a product there is nothing for the laborers to make, so the inventor, the one to create the product whatever it is, toys or whatever, is the one that gives all the labors the Job. Sorry the labors aren't the most important aspect its the person who creates that is.

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms Look threw history, back in the day everyone made stone tools, than later on people invent new ones not made out of the stone tools. The inventors are the ones that have brought us out of and into the stone age, with that those creative peoples, innovators, etc, we would be running around like all the other animals in this world! So your focus on the labor force ignores whom are the people that truly advance society, isn't the workers they are important but not the Key element!

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@ASexyChef If no one labors to produce something then the inventors achievements are useless.

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms And I am not trying to diminish the need or the service of labors, I just think its foolish to hold them up over anyone else in a society. Labors are important but not more important or less important, to the system as a whole. The issue with how you seem to view it, is the labors are the only important aspect or the most important. And you and I can go back and forth but it proves my point you need both! And both are important!

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms If no one invent the product, what would the labors make?

[MyCrownOfWorms]

@ASexyChef One need not invent something to produce it.

[ASexyChef]

@MyCrownOfWorms no but if not one has invented it's not produced. We can keep flipping this around. However, if you only focus on the Labor as the apex you ignore innovation, which is Chinas biggest issue. They are labors but not many inventors, so they can only produce what others have created. And if you want to go with that fine, but you will live in a world that never evolves into anything more.

[ASexyChef]

@neue01 I think you can simplfly value from even supply or demand, value is solely what we believe it to be. Housing did not go up really because of basic supply or demand, yes everyone was buying more, but people believed that housing was going up, they all bought into it. But when homes hit a price that no one could believe they crashed. Demand drives the market but we choice, so its what we feel. Today people believe gold can't crash so that belief has driven the price up.

[neue01]

@ASexyChef I agree and believe the same thing. ;)

[ASexyChef]

@neue01 we are not using more gold, in products, we are demanding it because we think its safe, but if the price goes to high not one will believe its worth that and than we will have no clue what its worth, and it crashes. Until we figure how much value we feel its worth again. Its the old on man garbage is another man's treasure. We assign worth to all things in our life, if labor makes something no one wants its worthless thus they can force it.

[ASexyChef]

@neue01 You can go with it this way, a home in the US is worth even today more than the exact same home in another country. Because we along with the rest of the world though that may change that the US is rich so everything is worth more, if all the rest of the world believes the US economy is strong the dollar goes up if they think its weak it goes down, and yes people factor in inflation, but our trading value doesn't match that exactly, it goes up and down based on feelings.

[MrBadassa]

How about you show us the video THEN comment it

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@MrBadassa Why does it make any difference?

[MrBadassa]

@RedAntLiberationArmy I find it a be a huge advantage to actually know what you are talking about. Its what all others do, and there is a reason why they do it the way they do

[ASexyChef]

Well one thing you should be working on is Unions, and some unions have been around too long such as the Teamsters and honestly they need to be dissolved, but industries such as my own, & retail really need workers fighting for their rights. Walmart has done things that should be illegal, and maybe the laws have been change or they have found ways around those laws to keep their employees from unionizing. But people have to start to demand more, and work together before anything will change.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Definitely. Unions are a huge help. Though, as someone who use to work at Burger King at one point, one word of Union & your ass is canned. So it needs to be taken in the highest of regards & needs to take a solidarity effect between all workers.

[ASexyChef]

None of us will ever agree 100% about anything but its only when we do grasp we are all people whom just want a better country, and that we can find common ground and work for that goal to change things. That is the belief one is evil or whatever that keeps all of us from Real Debate on the issues we face. And its people in power trying to keep this going so they can just go along with business as usually while we are all getting screwed over!

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef I agree with you on this, most definitely. Which is why, whatever system we're fighting for, which of course is Communism for me, it needs to be a world wide effort, because if we merely implemented this in one country, then we'd be overthrown soon after by those higher in power.

[ASexyChef]

@RedAntLiberationArmy well the US has tried to implement its form in other countries and thats were I see your wrong. Countries need to choice for themselves when they are ready to do so. What we need is all the western countries to stop putting in power or helping dictators stay in power because it benefits our economy. If you want to invade a country, it should be one like the Sudan which is already at war, and to create peace and than try to help them create a government that works 4 them.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Again, I agree 100%. The Western imperialists need to stop trying to police the world. It's only leading to more problems for us. They need to try & fix their government, as we need to fix ours.

[ASexyChef]

@RedAntLiberationArmy The thing is countries take time for social change, it took almost 200 years until the US finally allowed real freedom to the vast majority of its people, you can't expect other cultures to just give up things even if we see them as bad right away. If you try to force your views on others they will reject them however if you work with them or demand the country is like better to woman, or we wont trade, those are the things to do.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Oh, most definitely. Nothing should be forced on people. What we're trying to do is gain workers solidarity here. Not a dictation on what to believe. I would never condone myself of such actions.

[ASexyChef]

And I hope you know it was conservative progressives who help free slaves, and like Teddy Roosevelt, whom started the environmental movement. I am a Jefferson Republican, but I reject what the Republican party is. And I know people who are out there trying to stop the corruption no matter if they are socialist or communists or whatever are on the same side I am. That its all the ignorant people on both sides who want to call each other evil, or claim 1 is destorying the US thats the problem.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Oh, most definitely. Those that choose to live a life, calling people either good or evil, are a problem to our ideals & our visions for a better future. And I'm glad you reject the views & representation of the Republican party. They've gone far out of the political spectrum to be taken serious any longer.

[ASexyChef]

Communism as you state forces people to have a job for the betterment of mankind so you want government to dictate I could not have the profession of a chef because as we seem to agree its not for the betterment of society. Its your choice to ignore or to not believe in human nature, but travel, see the world, and you really do see it. I will not want Communism, I will not want to be dictated on the job I can have for the betterment of mankind. So I reject the fundamental core of Communism.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Never said you'll be forced to do a certain job or the job you choose. You have the choice of what to do. What it calls for is for you & the community to work together in building a better life for those in your community. Nothing's being dictated, but rather democratically decided by the those of your community, which includes you.

[neue01]

@RedAntLiberationArmy You are incorrect that democracy is some sort of utopia and that the majority voting on my job is ideal. Democratic decision making is a tyranny of the majority. Pure democracy is two wolves and a hen deciding what's for dinner. I care not to have any majority tell me what to do with my life.

[ASexyChef]

There is human nature, I think you look into the fields of phycology and you will realize that people do basic things all the time. The stock market crash that was all human nature, we bought into something such as homes can't go down, and we got greedy, and so it keeps going up until it goes to high and we all know they aren't worth that price and than it crashes cause what are they actual worth we no-longer know! Study more my friend, I honestly thought the way you did when I was younger.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef There's not a single published paper that shows evidence to anything being "human nature". Psychologists would actually talk more about human conditionings & what how their past led them to who they are now. This was one of the main things I was taught in psychology. If anything would be natural, it would have to be genetic. Though, we can say this for violent crimes now, since they found the vast majority of violent criminals had damage to the frontal lobe.

[ASexyChef]

Honestly my friend your are just talking about what the founders wanted this country to do. The version of communism is exactly what the founders wanted, however governments get courpted, and the US is right now, and its because we those people who are supposed to be looking into voting the right people in. Have been lazy and have bought into lies, the founders didn't want powerful establishments of any-kind dictating against the will of the people. That is why they had separation of power.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Well then, it wasn't the failure of Communism, but rather the betrayal against Communism. When ever things like what we're talking about start to rise up in society, we've got these big capitalist corporations wanting to get richer & will make sure no equal right will ruin that for them. So they do what they can to destroy it. What this argues really, isn't that Communism would fail, but Communism would fail if it was only implemented in one country. It should be a world wide effort.

[ASexyChef]

@RedAntLiberationArmy the us has had the problem of being to capitalistic, and your right to speak out against big business, they are not always bad however the once whom have gotten in bed to change polices for their bottom line are horrible for the us and its whats destroyed the middle class and both parties have lied, they are both in bed, people need to wake up to that fact. US has done this many times, 1929 and before they did it, in the 1880's they did it. It always cause a huge crash.

[neue01]

@ASexyChef Right on!!! It's good to see others out there that are beginning to talk about classic liberalism again. Government has been in bed with everything and it won't stop until we question the premise of government as a whole. It's set up to have good intention but creates horrible outcomes. ;)

[ASexyChef]

However all the founders wanted was a population of educated voters, and we are not that, to choice people they felt were the best to represent them. So you can have people to work with whatever you would like to change in this country. And that is how the US changed from a country were only male white land owners could vote to anyone citizen 18 or older who registers.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef In which I hope you realize, that it was people like the Socialists & Progressives that marched on the streets demanding for equal rights, ranging from voting rights & so on.

[ASexyChef]

Its not the need of the community for me too cook for a handful, but if I build bridges for the country, that would be, so thus my career I have choicen in your utopia is not logical. So were would people like me be? Its the job I truely have a passion for but I will admit, it not a worth while one, its more worth while to be a plumber, than to be a chef for the betterment of society as a whole, that goes with sports, arts, all of it.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Your initial failure is to call Communism a utopia. That's far from what it really is, but merely a better life for people, not a utopia. Communism represents a "trial-n-error" society, to where we keep engaging ourselves, to where we keep advancing ourselves. Not how our society is today, which is a fixed-society.

[ASexyChef]

Being a chef, actress, artist, etc are all jobs that are from peoples desire for pleasure. Those are pointless for the communist ideals, I could do more for mankind in the fields of science, than I could ever do cooking, so that choice would not be there in a perfect communist utopia, why because what I enjoy really is pointless! I could spend hours carving veggies, and making beautiful food but all that is pointless for the betterment of mankind as a whole! So me as a chef is stupid.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef You wouldn't be limited to what you do. You can be a chef & a doctor if that's what you desire. In a communist society there are no painters, but at most people who engage in painting among other activities. ~Karl Marx

[ASexyChef]

Ok my friend my choicen profession is the Food Industry, and I love to cook I love to make things look and taste good. However pretty food is need because why logically. In communism, my schooling would of had me in Science and Math classes, why because I always scored high. And I did consider engineering in college, however I choice to be a chef. Going with Communism I would have need to stay with Engineering why? Because thats more important than to cook, we can live off tasteless food.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef In Communism, you're not limited on what you learn. So I don't know where you're basing these assertions from through your failed "food" analogy. You wouldn't be limited because there'd be no money for you to have to worry about or be such a hassle on your everyday life. If you choose to be lazy because schooling is free, then that would be of your choice. But that's not to blame a system nor its society, but rather the lack of people willing to learn.

[ASexyChef]

Maybe you should just really study history and grasp that the founders so far had the best plan, and that was restrict all the powers so people can have the individual freedoms to choice, not be mandated by a higher power of what they can and can't do. That the people choice what is right for them and to accept humans can't be perfect, there is also the fear of Mob rule, that the founders created the electoral college to restrict. These are really amazing men, maybe you should study them more!

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef I couldn't agree with you more that man should have their individual freedoms & shouldn't be mandated by a higher power. But where in Communism does this happen? Remember, Communism is a stateless & classless society. And before we can even gain socialism, we must first gain democracy, because without democracy we can't have socialism, because it's the call for equal powers & equal judgement. In capitalism, we have big oil, big pharma, or big industries telling us what to do.

[ASexyChef]

Seperate the powers so not one is truly in control, and place these people in power by the will of the people. So the people can choice how they want to live at that time, and it would than alter such as later allowing everyone to take part in voting, the system adjusts to the world because the people allow it to change to fit, the morals, and what is right and wrong to its people. But that system is fully courpt in the US right now, so instead of preaching for an unattainable utopia.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef I hope you know what you're asking for in society IS Communism. Like I've said plenty of times. Communism represents a stateless, classless, egalitarian society (NOT a utopia) & allows the people, of its entirety, to make communal-democratic decisions. No State, no business owners, no land owners, not one person in a higher position will tell you what to do. It's a majority's choice.

[ASexyChef]

@RedAntLiberationArmy I hope you grasp we already had this system I am talking about years ago in the US, however corporations have been able to bribe our government and so its no here right now. And I hope you grasp you can have what you want with the American government. If we as a people just start to look at people we elect. And we don't reelect them if they are doing things only for whatever corporations is paying for their campaign. Society can't be perfect we are too selfish for it.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef I agree with you 100%, but what does this have anything to do with Communism? You're talking about big corporations & the lack of freedoms to people because of said corporations, which is the very essence of Capitalism, today.

[ASexyChef]

Maybe you want a communist, anarchy, lol, I do not know your def of what it truly is just what historians call it. But people do have greed, lust, etc. And its in the division of powers to allow personal freedoms, which had allowed the US to be a nice country. But there is not division of power in the US so you have the same issues as you did with communism, corporate interests not the betterment of the people are paramount. & the founding fathers grasp that, separation of power is the key!

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Well, first I'll agree that big corporations shouldn't be the decision makers. This is why, in Communism, all decisions are made within a communal-democratic process. Small businesses would flourish in this system, not big corporations. You're getting everything mixed & matched here, it's not even funny.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef I'll also point out your failure on making people out to be "naturally" greedy. I'm sorry, but I'm surprised that people still use this excuse when there's absolutely no evidence towards the idea of there being "human nature". There is no "human nature", but rather "human conditioning". People are not naturally greedy, but they are made out to become one become their environment (the system) has put them in a position to where it seems right in your eyes, as wrong to others.

[ASexyChef]

Communism china, is the only country that has been able to keep it alive and thriving. Yet when you really look at the system, ok China, controls everything and they put their faith into capitalism, were as the US corporations threw campaign contributions have bribed, our government. So china the government controls the market, and in the US the Market and those high players control the government. Is there that much of a difference? And are you naive to think either one is really good?

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Are you naive enough to believe that China is really Communist? Sure they keep the colors & flag, but when it comes down to how the economy operates, you see that they're not communist whatsoever, but rather free-market capitalists. And actually, the government of China has played as a dictatorship of keeping certain elements in power. But big business remains as the law of the lands when it comes to the ownership of the means of production. China is FAR from being Communist.

[ASexyChef]

@RedAntLiberationArmy communism is a broad term but at its heart is the state controling all aspects. So China clearly has that system of goverment. If you choice to reject that book def, that is your choice. But by def of what Communism is, or what it became. If you want a wonderful marxist utopia, well sorry what you get is the state control which ends in bad things. Why cause Marxism ignores human nature, it wants mankind to be as ants, everyone working in their place for society.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@ASexyChef Again, no such thing as human nature. No evidence towards this idea & it's shocking to see people still use that excuse. And I still can't believe that people still think that in Communism the State will take over, when in fact, if you every followed Marxist ideology, Communism is a STATELESS society - meaning no State!

[CorrosionX3]

So, in your perfect world, let's say I don't give a crap about your ideology and I decide I am still a free man and wish freely trade with my fellow man? Would you put me in jail or work camps? I just want to grasp what "modern communists" want to do to people like me who think your ideology is full of crap?

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@CorrosionX3 well first of all, let me clearly state this to you, we are not searching for a perfect world, but rather a better world where the workers in control of the means of production, not big business. Second of all, when communism is implemented, there will be no money. We'll be operating ourselves through the use of resources. So, I would say to you, good luck on trying to convince the majority that they should pay for your items when the community can distribute it to them freely.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy wow, so you've actually figured a way to circumvent the laws of the economy? I believe everytime it was tried it resulted in the absolute destruction of the societies that tried it. The only way for everyone to prosper (albeit not equally but a rising tide raises all ships) is through the free market and individual rights.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@CorrosionX3 Actually, Communism has never been implemented. So it's kind of hard to say things like it failed when it's yet to be tried. I would argue that the furthest we've made so far is State-Capitalism with socialist leanings. But Communism? No. One of the main reasons why the Soviet Union fell was because of why any system would fall - lack of trading. The U.S. made sure no trading took place to them. Yet, Capitalism has been implemented & has shown us just how flawed of a system it is.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy You're spewing ideology at me. It's been tried, it failed. The free market works in the real world, every day, it lifted more people out of poverty than anything EVER, but when the violent monopoly called the state gets involved and wants its cut, and they starts to print money and steal the value of our labor for their grand central planning schemes, you might call it capitalism and say it doesn't work, I call it statism and say it doesn't work. I

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@CorrosionX3 I would love for you to point out where Capitalism has helped bring the majority of people out of poverty. Just one, if possible. And before you make a counter argument against communism by stating that "Communism never helped people get out of poverty", again, Communism hasn't been implemented yet, so you can't say it's failed or prospered yet. If you did, then you'd be basing your assertions through faith.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy I didn't say capitalism, I said FREE MARKETS, which is the ability for one person to trade freely with one another and to keep or sell what he earns or produces. THAT creates wealth which benefits everyone. I will not argue "capitalism" as you know it with you, its a loaded word too often used by communists to forment class warfare. Free people w/freedom of expression and trade have lifted themselves out of poverty, socialist ideologues destroyed all societies they touched

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@CorrosionX3 Too bad you implement a free market with capitalism all the time. Why is that? And we've never had socialism yet, either. The most we've ever had was State-Capitalism with socialist leanings. And the only reasons areas like the CCCP fell was because of how any system would've fallen, whether they're socialist, communist, capitalist, fascist, etc. - lack of trading.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy You can't ignore the failings of your ideology by saying "they didn't do it right". They did. You don't understand what it really is. In a libertarian, free market society, you have the right to live in a commune and make communal decisions. Communists can't let people choose to trade freely and make profits because that's what they want to do naturally. But you believe you have to change that. That's where your ideology fails, it tries to change man.

[neue01]

@CorrosionX3 Totally agree! It's great to see more and more classic liberal thinkers out there once again. Free Markets and Free Minds. :)

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy If I have to ask the state permission to run a business then there's no free market, therefore there's no creation of wealth. I'd suggest you open your mind and try to argue to other side for a change. Look at libertarianism, it's a lot more fulfilling than your failed and hate-filled, divisive ideology.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@CorrosionX3 Well here's where you fail at your point. Communism is a stateless society. So there wouldn't be a state to tell you what to do, because you'd be making communal decisions, like a family. Taking care of one another, not a state. And, to top that, the workers would own the means of production, which of course would deal strictly with resources, not money.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy look at youtube user stefbot , I'm sure you will find him a lot more persuasive and logical than any communist propaganda leaflet with a raised fist and outdated slogans.

[CorrosionX3]

@RedAntLiberationArmy Lack of trade? Maybe you don't remember the Ukraine famine where they deliberately let 8 million people die of starvation in one year?  They traded alright, but only to sustain their crappy system, at the expense of their people... or as Marx called the Ukrainians, "racial trash". Maybe you should read less about the flowery promises of communism and read more about what pursuing this imbecile goal has cost humanity, and how many bloodthirsty dictators it empowered.

[RedAntLiberationArmy]

@policestory Sorry if you don't see your comment up. I accidentally pressed "Remove". But, to respond to your comment that you don't think the Huffington Post is leftist. I'll agree to an extent, though Arianna Huffington is a leftist, herself. So I think it's safe to say that they have a lot of leftist tendencies, but I see what you mean as well.

[witchwild]

Excellent vid! Thanks for posting! Very satisfying viewing.

[beltanebabe55]

@witchwild Thanks for the share ww I enjoyed that, it's fun seeing Beck squirm lol.

[witchwild]

@beltanebabe55: It is wonderful watching beck squirm, especially under the hand of one of his 'own' at fox! I've seen O'Reilly revealing inborn principles a few times in the past ...but fox doesn't require/like people of principles, so he has to suppress his better angels & invoke the fox demons to gratify their dark lord, roger ailes.

[beltanebabe55]

@witchwild LOL, trouble is that for some American people watching this stuff has become an addiction just as bad as crack and doing just as much damage to their brains.....so sad.