If there is no God - or gods - and nothing supernatural or magical in reality, then the Universe itself and its laws, as revealed by science, becomes the Highest Power, something to regard with awe and wondermen. This is the core of scientific pantheism. Some use the word "God" to refer to the Universe, to highlight the distinction, but this is unnecessary. Scientific pantheism is basically just atheism plus reverence for nature.
Oness and Harmony go ALL...I was born and raised on one of the most beautiful and Nature-All islands on Earth and Alaska is just as Sacred...That's a very Strong clip... Simplicity is powerful. That's how all answers are found, through Nature's simplicity/ Natural Levity.
@airasuwl if men are more intellegent than ants...why can't they build, transport and store marterial, WITHOUT harming the environment like the Ant does. With all due RAS-Pect.
Nice video! With Pantheism the more we can scientifically understand our Universe the more we can understand God. I have always felt there is something greater than myself maybe this is Pantheism. Our Universe must be infinite to create such beauty! Infinity is a funny thing you can halve it and you still have infinity, so there is a kind of oneness!
@100jurman well sorry about the confused but i'd say yes, you are confused. i think a pantheist would say there is no supernatural god separate from the natural universe - one way to put that would be to say the universe is god. i don't think that label is necessary. what's important is to understand that since the universe in general and the earth in particular is in fact your one true lord, creator and savior, you should act accordingy.
Hinduism, simply means non-duality, meaning no separation, oneness at the deepest level, or the ultimate reality they call Brahman. . This a very old spiritual/philosophical idea that we are all One and is catching on in our current science in many ways.
I have watched the first two videos in this series, and I must say I am intrigued. I have always been at a crossroads of belief, somewhere between spirituality and complete atheism. I stumbled upon pantheism and searched on youtube for vids, and I like these videos so far. Well done.
i never said consciousness is outside the universe. aren't you inside the universe? you and your consciousness, here we/they are. inside the universe.
outside the universe? I didn't write those words. I said that the universe itself is NOT God because the universe has no consciousness.
God would need to be a thinking entity. If you say that the universe is God then it must be able to think. If you say it doesn't need to think then you are saying nothing more than "the universe is the universe, but I call it God for no apparent reason other than it makes me feel good".
all that this branch of pantheism claims is that the universe is numinous; the universe itself is the creator. there is no dualism. if you accept that you, and your consciousness, are part of the universe, then the universe indeed does have consciousness. it thinks because you think in it.
The universe thinks because *I* think? An ant thinks, does that mean ants have a collective conscious? Does it mean that my conscious is shared with ants?
Does it mean that my piss shares the same conscious as my turd?
Well I think you proved my point for me. If the universe was some kind of collective consciousness, you'd be able to form proper sentences and spell accurately :-)
I am IN the universe. I am also IN my underpants, but that doesn't mean my underpants can think.
How does the universe have no consciousness if you yourself are?
And to your quotation, the reason to call it God, is only because of its ability to 'create' itself, had it not this power to fabricate existence, then it could not be thought of as God or an entity self-created and maintained.
AIRhead, did you come back here to puke out more comments after you watched the video again? are you trying to understand? or did you return just because your ego i so huge it had to come back and puke your same comment over and over? SP is not deism and it's not Jungian psychology.
There are still many things we don't know. We are so small compared to the entire universe, yet we are self aware. If such consciousness is possible in small creatures such as us, then surely greater consciousness exist beyond what we can see.
Physicists will tell you that all is connected. I think scientific pantheism is a spiritual alternative for those who are too scientific to believe in deities but who want to connect with something greater than themselves. And what is greater than our physical universe?
Is the universe as a whole a self aware being? I don't think that is a question a SCIENTIFIC pantheist would ask since a scientific pantheist is just an atheist who finds spiritual fulfillment by re-connecting with nature/the universe.
pantheism - nature is a giant information-processing engine (smart enough to engineer humans) .. no external creator required, and yes we arrogant humans are indeed small and pathetic compared to the whole.
Smart? It didn't decide to engineer humans, humans ended up here. How many species did the universe smartly engineer and then make extinct along the years? That's not very smart, is it?
Our success of being here is due entirely to the monumental number of failures along the way.
@walter0bz Nature is not "smart", and it possesses no wish to engineer anything. And humans are neither arrogant nor pathetic by nature. These are your personal values -- not universal ones. I do agree with your main point though; that the universe can be perceived as a giant information-processing device (although I wouldn't use that denomination).
nature=random trial&error, sure. By working in parallel for long time it created many things that we can't replicate.
There's a theory about geniuses that their brains just work faster and apply trial/error more combinations. (hence related statements about 'perspiration / inspiration'.
This thinking is important r.e. perceptions of Peak Oil:-
I like to separate what % of recent human achievement is down to fossil-energy vs our minds&our'tech' (..energy=more trial & error)
@walter0bz I used tho think that too not long ago, that humans are small and pathetic compared to the whole but really, no matter how small and insignificant something seems, is it still not part of the whole ? like the small micro-organisms that live within our bodies. Are they any lesser than us ? Does size equal superior or inferior importance ? Or is the interconnectedness of everything within the universe one within itself, all equal within one and nothing ?
when I say "God Bless You".I mean it as "May the Universe abundantly provide for you" or "May a fair wind be on your back. Is that pantheisic?If so I whole heartedly agree with all the tenets of pantheism. I do also have a reverential awe of nature.
hello. What an excellent inquiry you are making. I think you are describing panentheism, rather than pantheism. As I understand it, Panentheism says that all is in God, somewhat as if God were the ocean and we were fish - God is all there is, and then some. The universe is God's body, but God's awareness or personality is greater than the sum of all the parts of the universe. Pantheists, conversely, do not add a supernatural god or part of God to The Universe / to the equation.
God is redefined as a Pantheist. Pantheist is basically a sexed up Atheist. I myself am a Pantheist. God to a Pantheist is defined as "nature" or "natural". If you're Christian your god is "supernatural". We do not worship or pray or do anything. All Pantheism is is a redefinition of the word God to the meaning of something in reality, life, and nature.
Actually, Pantheism is EXTREMELY personal. It is so personal that it recognizes that not only is everything, or All-that-is "god", but by inclusion each and every one of us are god/aspects of god. We are divine. We are ALL-Powerful, we are entangled with everything that is. There is nothing that we are not part of. We are god. It is a recognition of our own divinity and power and ability to create and destroy and imagine and live and be conscious. Very Personal
Not sure what that question is supposed to mean "exactly." I you are in some way implying that having a belief in a God, like the Christian god, somehow helped hurricane Katrina or its victims, I'd say you failed tremendously by even asking that question. As is evident, such a God did absolutely NOTHING to stop the Hurricane OR to help the victims. People helped the victims. The Victims helped themselves. No god cept themselves intervened at all.
If there is no God - or gods - and nothing supernatural or magical in reality, then the Universe itself and its laws, as revealed by science, becomes the Highest Power, something to regard with awe and wondermen. This is the core of scientific pantheism. Some use the word "God" to refer to the Universe, to highlight the distinction, but this is unnecessary. Scientific pantheism is basically just atheism plus reverence for nature.
Ashiman12 4 months ago
I like this but commentator sounds like Darth Vadar. Expecting him to invoke The Force any moment.
ladystardust2008 8 months ago
The crisis of the world were caused by economic&national competitions! Did the vaticans lobby oil companies?
DaSkinnyApe 11 months ago
Muslims would do well to remove the 'ah' from Allah, and think about what that means.
SIMKINETICS 11 months ago
Oness and Harmony go ALL...I was born and raised on one of the most beautiful and Nature-All islands on Earth and Alaska is just as Sacred...That's a very Strong clip... Simplicity is powerful. That's how all answers are found, through Nature's simplicity/ Natural Levity.
Lionsherb 1 year ago
@airasuwl if men are more intellegent than ants...why can't they build, transport and store marterial, WITHOUT harming the environment like the Ant does. With all due RAS-Pect.
Lionsherb 1 year ago
I first thoght this guy was from the movie Home Alone 2. With the talk boy Makalister uses.
czechking 1 year ago
Nice video! With Pantheism the more we can scientifically understand our Universe the more we can understand God. I have always felt there is something greater than myself maybe this is Pantheism. Our Universe must be infinite to create such beauty! Infinity is a funny thing you can halve it and you still have infinity, so there is a kind of oneness!
nickharvey7 1 year ago
I am confused. So pantheists don't believe that God is the universe?
100jurman 1 year ago
@100jurman well sorry about the confused but i'd say yes, you are confused. i think a pantheist would say there is no supernatural god separate from the natural universe - one way to put that would be to say the universe is god. i don't think that label is necessary. what's important is to understand that since the universe in general and the earth in particular is in fact your one true lord, creator and savior, you should act accordingy.
windham666 1 year ago
God is the totality of the universe and everything in it. The knowledge of god is complete knowledge about itself.
freethinker923 1 year ago
@freethinker923 but we only have a limited the universe and hence God.
supersmash43 1 year ago
Thanks, but dont get frustrated by people who are ignorant to fact and live in cuck coo land.
theforceofevolution 1 year ago
I think you summed it up perfectly ..
"The cosmos is divine and the Earth is sacred." What's not to understand?
JokerMouce 1 year ago
Advaita, a philosophical system in
Hinduism, simply means non-duality, meaning no separation, oneness at the deepest level, or the ultimate reality they call Brahman. . This a very old spiritual/philosophical idea that we are all One and is catching on in our current science in many ways.
MorfeuV 2 years ago
I have watched the first two videos in this series, and I must say I am intrigued. I have always been at a crossroads of belief, somewhere between spirituality and complete atheism. I stumbled upon pantheism and searched on youtube for vids, and I like these videos so far. Well done.
UncleGuts 2 years ago
Nature it's just nature, it isn't God any more than it is Barak Obama - but at least Barak Obama is real.
It has no consciousness, it is just bits of matter.
You've been watching too much Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy! Is it all being controlled by little talking mice?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
i never said consciousness is outside the universe. aren't you inside the universe? you and your consciousness, here we/they are. inside the universe.
windham666 2 years ago
outside the universe? I didn't write those words. I said that the universe itself is NOT God because the universe has no consciousness.
God would need to be a thinking entity. If you say that the universe is God then it must be able to think. If you say it doesn't need to think then you are saying nothing more than "the universe is the universe, but I call it God for no apparent reason other than it makes me feel good".
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
all that this branch of pantheism claims is that the universe is numinous; the universe itself is the creator. there is no dualism. if you accept that you, and your consciousness, are part of the universe, then the universe indeed does have consciousness. it thinks because you think in it.
windham666 2 years ago
The universe thinks because *I* think? An ant thinks, does that mean ants have a collective conscious? Does it mean that my conscious is shared with ants?
Does it mean that my piss shares the same conscious as my turd?
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
(sorry ghandi, but...)
in your case shithead, the answer it yes.
windham666 2 years ago
Well I think you proved my point for me. If the universe was some kind of collective consciousness, you'd be able to form proper sentences and spell accurately :-)
I am IN the universe. I am also IN my underpants, but that doesn't mean my underpants can think.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
How does the universe have no consciousness if you yourself are?
And to your quotation, the reason to call it God, is only because of its ability to 'create' itself, had it not this power to fabricate existence, then it could not be thought of as God or an entity self-created and maintained.
Juefawn 2 years ago
I am not "the universe", I am merely within it. The universe has conscious by proxy no more than my car does when I am within that.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
AIRhead, did you come back here to puke out more comments after you watched the video again? are you trying to understand? or did you return just because your ego i so huge it had to come back and puke your same comment over and over? SP is not deism and it's not Jungian psychology.
windham666 2 years ago
There are still many things we don't know. We are so small compared to the entire universe, yet we are self aware. If such consciousness is possible in small creatures such as us, then surely greater consciousness exist beyond what we can see.
rickmanization 2 years ago
Quote everything you just said and then at the end wrote "Thought the ant"
And indeed there is, humans are far more intelligent than ants, and yet that does not make me God...unfortunately.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
Physicists will tell you that all is connected. I think scientific pantheism is a spiritual alternative for those who are too scientific to believe in deities but who want to connect with something greater than themselves. And what is greater than our physical universe?
harry911tk 2 years ago
Is the universe as a whole a self aware being? I don't think that is a question a SCIENTIFIC pantheist would ask since a scientific pantheist is just an atheist who finds spiritual fulfillment by re-connecting with nature/the universe.
harry911tk 2 years ago
@AlRasuwl go read some quantum physics you asshat. and then come back.
waltzingpeter 1 year ago
pantheism - nature is a giant information-processing engine (smart enough to engineer humans) .. no external creator required, and yes we arrogant humans are indeed small and pathetic compared to the whole.
walter0bz 2 years ago 7
Smart? It didn't decide to engineer humans, humans ended up here. How many species did the universe smartly engineer and then make extinct along the years? That's not very smart, is it?
Our success of being here is due entirely to the monumental number of failures along the way.
AlRasuwl 2 years ago
@walter0bz Nature is not "smart", and it possesses no wish to engineer anything. And humans are neither arrogant nor pathetic by nature. These are your personal values -- not universal ones. I do agree with your main point though; that the universe can be perceived as a giant information-processing device (although I wouldn't use that denomination).
SuperGukke 10 months ago
@SuperGukke -
nature=random trial&error, sure. By working in parallel for long time it created many things that we can't replicate.
There's a theory about geniuses that their brains just work faster and apply trial/error more combinations. (hence related statements about 'perspiration / inspiration'.
This thinking is important r.e. perceptions of Peak Oil:-
I like to separate what % of recent human achievement is down to fossil-energy vs our minds&our'tech' (..energy=more trial & error)
walter0bz 10 months ago
@walter0bz I used tho think that too not long ago, that humans are small and pathetic compared to the whole but really, no matter how small and insignificant something seems, is it still not part of the whole ? like the small micro-organisms that live within our bodies. Are they any lesser than us ? Does size equal superior or inferior importance ? Or is the interconnectedness of everything within the universe one within itself, all equal within one and nothing ?
abyssalanguish 4 months ago
are you afraid of numbers or what homer?
windham666 2 years ago
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ThePeacefulAtheist 2 years ago
troll, did yer momma drop you on your head on purpose or by accident?
windham666 2 years ago
when I say "God Bless You".I mean it as "May the Universe abundantly provide for you" or "May a fair wind be on your back. Is that pantheisic?If so I whole heartedly agree with all the tenets of pantheism. I do also have a reverential awe of nature.
homousios 3 years ago
hello. What an excellent inquiry you are making. I think you are describing panentheism, rather than pantheism. As I understand it, Panentheism says that all is in God, somewhat as if God were the ocean and we were fish - God is all there is, and then some. The universe is God's body, but God's awareness or personality is greater than the sum of all the parts of the universe. Pantheists, conversely, do not add a supernatural god or part of God to The Universe / to the equation.
windham666 3 years ago
What you say about panentheism would accurately describe what I am.
homousios 3 years ago
panta rei!
windham666 3 years ago
my philosophy --- thanks to the Buddha and Heraclitus (may be Lao Tsu)
homousios 3 years ago
wait ,Pantheism is not personal, they don't believe in a personal god who interferes with the human affairs.
How could you say "God Bless u " or " May the Universe abundantly provide for you " ? How does that help hurricane Katrina exactly ?
christe68 2 years ago
a huricane is a hurricane. nature is nature
homousios 2 years ago
that is the most ridiculous response ever, hurricane is part of nature.
christe68 2 years ago 2
Panta Rei ! 5 dont bother with issuesa that plague you so. I comcern mysself with vivaldi, Giovanni Gabrielli and venice and art.
homousios 2 years ago
God is redefined as a Pantheist. Pantheist is basically a sexed up Atheist. I myself am a Pantheist. God to a Pantheist is defined as "nature" or "natural". If you're Christian your god is "supernatural". We do not worship or pray or do anything. All Pantheism is is a redefinition of the word God to the meaning of something in reality, life, and nature.
netsoj 2 years ago 2
"Pantheism is not personal"
Actually, Pantheism is EXTREMELY personal. It is so personal that it recognizes that not only is everything, or All-that-is "god", but by inclusion each and every one of us are god/aspects of god. We are divine. We are ALL-Powerful, we are entangled with everything that is. There is nothing that we are not part of. We are god. It is a recognition of our own divinity and power and ability to create and destroy and imagine and live and be conscious. Very Personal
xephyr1000 2 years ago 6
"How does that help hurricane Katrina exactly?"
Not sure what that question is supposed to mean "exactly." I you are in some way implying that having a belief in a God, like the Christian god, somehow helped hurricane Katrina or its victims, I'd say you failed tremendously by even asking that question. As is evident, such a God did absolutely NOTHING to stop the Hurricane OR to help the victims. People helped the victims. The Victims helped themselves. No god cept themselves intervened at all.
xephyr1000 2 years ago
Pantheism: did a wiki on it, looking forward to watching the vids.
aZeroGodist 3 years ago
Don't know what it is but this was a very interesting well done intro.
RobsStudio 3 years ago
I remember the remarks from my friends who had the opportunity to visit there. They were overwhelmed by the beauty. Thank you for sharing this.
Rhonda9 3 years ago
Hm.
Suddenly, I'm at the beginning.
But, I watched again, anyway...and since I didn't comment on this one yet...well, here it is.
Clobberbob55 3 years ago
The customer says thanks. Yes, this time it is better.
littlebear1963 3 years ago
I need a few days to view them bro, raveling on business this week. I look forward to checking them out though.
mconn2112 3 years ago
well heres a reminder, its good stuff!
cozmikzen 3 years ago
i reloaded this due to customer complaints of low sound quality, hope this is better. the customer is king!
windham666 3 years ago