The Koran, in many places, supports the authenticity and reliability of the Pentateuch and Gospels. Mohammed obviously believed there were prophecies in the Scriptures referring to him. Moslems frequently take Mohammed's remarks "twist their tongues" to mean the Bible is unfaithfully preserved, yet the Koran text simply means the Jews of Mohammed's time "twisted" the meaning of the OT to suit their Jewish interpretation (rather than Mohammed's!)
The Yemeni koran fragments proove the Koran to be corrupted. It is why noone is allowed to study nor photograph them today. There is also a missing sura that a goat ate. and Uthmann burned all the Korans except one because there were so many different ones.
The Yemeni fragments are muslim authorities as well in german archeologists who as you say photographed them, so if they are different they would make documentaries, and not what...So go and ask them if they are we as muslims would like to know...
That's a pretty good vid man, much better than most muslims I've sen on here and i respect that you looked to find it instead of going to an outdated place or w/e. but i have the answer to most (maybe all) of your questions
In addition, they have said that if we apply the same high standard we apply to the Gospels to every ancient manuscript, we would have to strike out alot if not most of what we know as ancient history.
a) it is inconsistent with the previous revelations and teachings of Jesus and the Torah; and
b) we don't believe it is a true revelation because we don't believe Mohammed was a true prophet, because his unrighteous behaviour.
Lastly, the accuracy and veracity of the Gospel accounts have been declared highly accurate and highly authorative by archeologists who have studied ancient texts. These are not necessarily Christians, BTW.
Lastly, you are proud of the fact that the Quran has been preserved through the ages in Arabic, thereby keeping the accuracy of the original revelation. This is true, however this not what most educated Christians have a problem with. We have a problem with the revelation itself because we don't believe it came from Allah for two reasons:
You correctly point out that the earliest manuscripts do not have the tail accounts of Jesus' interactions, in Mark and John. This is not a big secret to anyone who has opened up a Bible. But you erroneously jump to the conclusion that they were made up or that there was it corrupted. It's just that you lack understanding on how the Bible developed.
Part 2: Some people will recall the main things, some will emphasize some things more than another. And some people will recall other events and contact the people later. Or the police will find other witnesses and add supplementary accounts to the originals.
Regarding your question about the validity of the scripture, you must remember that the written scriptures came from eye witness accounts and oral histories. As these histories began to be written down and collected, it is natural to assume that not all written accounts would contain the same events. But these events would be eventually collated, and check for veracity during that time. Kind of like the police get eye-witnesses accounts to an event.
Jibreek Even "if" the passages never changed in time still were they ever true to begin with?
The greeks and romans already had their golden age. Greek philosophers would dessect chicken eggs to examine embryos. Nothing in the Quran waisnt already said before the 6th century or hypothesis by a Hellenistic mind.
Cosmology quran fits a Ptolemaic view of the universe better then the flipping of wording in order to make conform to modern science.
Some how the Quran is just as infallible,Muslim theology rips from Jewish,catholic and Zoroastrian ideas. Abdullah has the same aura thing on him just like Zarathustra mother in Zoroastrian nativity lore , The council Carthage in the 4th century "decreed" that catholics will spend time in hell to make for wrongs of past life before entering heaven interesting that Islam also so happens to share this idea.
I really don't know where you get your facts from. Anyways, some unbelievers try to deny some of what the Bible says by making up stuff without proof. All I know is that a man who gave up His life so that we can praise God in our hearts through Him, is the greatest thing for Love a human being can do. And I will die believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins as do the billions of christians around the world.
Muslims think God had sex with Mary and Jesus was born and that is really a wrong and dirty minded way to interpret this. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, which is God's spirit therefore a man was not needed nor sexual activity for Mary to conceive a son. Another thing, Science will never uncover what God is really made of, so I don't have to be scientific about anything, God is much more complicated than anything Science could make out.
How could God's Son die? It is impossible for someone to be risen from the dead. That is exactly what I don't get. Is that why many christian are so soft on their religion? Is that what Christians think? Somebody will die for you? No one will die for you sins, everyone will be held accountable for their sins. It doesn't make sense. I'd rather just commit suicide if someone, or God's Son died for my sins.
You have it all wrong. Christ did not died for our actual sins which we should all be held accountable for, He died for the original sin Adam and Eve committed so that we could have repentance through God. Remember the Original Sin was the one that opened our Eyes to Evilness which God prohibited us to not have knowledge of, but we did not obeyed Him. You should then commit suicide if you don't believe in Christ's words and you will know what will await you.
You also have it all wrong. We also don't believe that God had sex with Mary. We believe that she was a virgin mother and she is one of the ladies that are going staight to paradise. Get your facts right.
The Koran, in many places, supports the authenticity and reliability of the Pentateuch and Gospels. Mohammed obviously believed there were prophecies in the Scriptures referring to him. Moslems frequently take Mohammed's remarks "twist their tongues" to mean the Bible is unfaithfully preserved, yet the Koran text simply means the Jews of Mohammed's time "twisted" the meaning of the OT to suit their Jewish interpretation (rather than Mohammed's!)
You shouldn't make up your own facts.
Analyzethis1 3 years ago
The Yemeni koran fragments proove the Koran to be corrupted. It is why noone is allowed to study nor photograph them today. There is also a missing sura that a goat ate. and Uthmann burned all the Korans except one because there were so many different ones.
HAHAHAHAHA Muslims are Idiots.
jy768 4 years ago
The Yemeni fragments are muslim authorities as well in german archeologists who as you say photographed them, so if they are different they would make documentaries, and not what...So go and ask them if they are we as muslims would like to know...
penkalli 3 years ago
and another resource for John 7:53 since it's down on the other site
tektonics(dot)org(slash)af(slash)adulterypericope(dot)html
RealYungMoney 4 years ago
That's a pretty good vid man, much better than most muslims I've sen on here and i respect that you looked to find it instead of going to an outdated place or w/e. but i have the answer to most (maybe all) of your questions
answering(dash)islam(dot)org(slash)BibleCom(slash)index(dot)html
RealYungMoney 4 years ago
Part six:
In addition, they have said that if we apply the same high standard we apply to the Gospels to every ancient manuscript, we would have to strike out alot if not most of what we know as ancient history.
binky777 4 years ago
Part five:
a) it is inconsistent with the previous revelations and teachings of Jesus and the Torah; and
b) we don't believe it is a true revelation because we don't believe Mohammed was a true prophet, because his unrighteous behaviour.
Lastly, the accuracy and veracity of the Gospel accounts have been declared highly accurate and highly authorative by archeologists who have studied ancient texts. These are not necessarily Christians, BTW.
binky777 4 years ago
PART FOUR:
Lastly, you are proud of the fact that the Quran has been preserved through the ages in Arabic, thereby keeping the accuracy of the original revelation. This is true, however this not what most educated Christians have a problem with. We have a problem with the revelation itself because we don't believe it came from Allah for two reasons:
binky777 4 years ago
Part three:
You correctly point out that the earliest manuscripts do not have the tail accounts of Jesus' interactions, in Mark and John. This is not a big secret to anyone who has opened up a Bible. But you erroneously jump to the conclusion that they were made up or that there was it corrupted. It's just that you lack understanding on how the Bible developed.
binky777 4 years ago
Part 2: Some people will recall the main things, some will emphasize some things more than another. And some people will recall other events and contact the people later. Or the police will find other witnesses and add supplementary accounts to the originals.
binky777 4 years ago
GO TO PART THREE.
binky777 4 years ago
Regarding your question about the validity of the scripture, you must remember that the written scriptures came from eye witness accounts and oral histories. As these histories began to be written down and collected, it is natural to assume that not all written accounts would contain the same events. But these events would be eventually collated, and check for veracity during that time. Kind of like the police get eye-witnesses accounts to an event.
GO TO PART 2.
binky777 4 years ago
Jibreek Even "if" the passages never changed in time still were they ever true to begin with?
The greeks and romans already had their golden age. Greek philosophers would dessect chicken eggs to examine embryos. Nothing in the Quran waisnt already said before the 6th century or hypothesis by a Hellenistic mind.
Cosmology quran fits a Ptolemaic view of the universe better then the flipping of wording in order to make conform to modern science.
SultanBorat 4 years ago
Some how the Quran is just as infallible,Muslim theology rips from Jewish,catholic and Zoroastrian ideas. Abdullah has the same aura thing on him just like Zarathustra mother in Zoroastrian nativity lore , The council Carthage in the 4th century "decreed" that catholics will spend time in hell to make for wrongs of past life before entering heaven interesting that Islam also so happens to share this idea.
SultanBorat 4 years ago
thx
uaepost 4 years ago
as salaamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
mashallah nice vid bro
theObscureObject 5 years ago
Salam alaykum..
For everyone and especially for those who want to do da'wah.. here are some good books:
What Did Jesus REALLY Say? By Misha'al ibn Abdullah.
History of Truth: The Truh About God and Religions. By Adel M. Elsaie.
200+ Ways the Quran Corrects the Bible. By Mohamed Ghounem.
AhlusSunnahWalJamaah 5 years ago
good gob brother keep it up
hashu1 5 years ago
Nice job bro!, Allah bless you
defaura5 5 years ago
I really don't know where you get your facts from. Anyways, some unbelievers try to deny some of what the Bible says by making up stuff without proof. All I know is that a man who gave up His life so that we can praise God in our hearts through Him, is the greatest thing for Love a human being can do. And I will die believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins as do the billions of christians around the world.
fevianc 5 years ago
believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins as do the billions of christians around the world.
how come u do sins and then juses talk the blame?
how come god need son like us?why
be logic and scientific
thx
uaepost 4 years ago
Muslims think God had sex with Mary and Jesus was born and that is really a wrong and dirty minded way to interpret this. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, which is God's spirit therefore a man was not needed nor sexual activity for Mary to conceive a son. Another thing, Science will never uncover what God is really made of, so I don't have to be scientific about anything, God is much more complicated than anything Science could make out.
fevianc 4 years ago
How could God's Son die? It is impossible for someone to be risen from the dead. That is exactly what I don't get. Is that why many christian are so soft on their religion? Is that what Christians think? Somebody will die for you? No one will die for you sins, everyone will be held accountable for their sins. It doesn't make sense. I'd rather just commit suicide if someone, or God's Son died for my sins.
nagih12 4 years ago
You have it all wrong. Christ did not died for our actual sins which we should all be held accountable for, He died for the original sin Adam and Eve committed so that we could have repentance through God. Remember the Original Sin was the one that opened our Eyes to Evilness which God prohibited us to not have knowledge of, but we did not obeyed Him. You should then commit suicide if you don't believe in Christ's words and you will know what will await you.
fevianc 4 years ago
You also have it all wrong. We also don't believe that God had sex with Mary. We believe that she was a virgin mother and she is one of the ladies that are going staight to paradise. Get your facts right.
nagih12 4 years ago
thank you
IslamIs1st 5 years ago
yeah its the same with the RSV (Revised Standard Edition)...the footnotes are really educational!
AsifEminem 5 years ago