Thanks for the great video. Starting to get this one and can kind of do the "good times bad times" lesson you posted. I don't know if I could ever do the high hat in GTBT through out.
Dude! What a gem you have uploaded. Thank you. I am a new drummer and this is right up my alley. I am currently working on separating the right hand from the right foot: whew this is a chore. but all in on my way - thanks to you!
Drummers. Please stop the madness. This is not triplets! Triplets are entirely different 1 and ah 2 and ah etc. This is a very simple shuffle 1 and 2 and etc. This is why the half-time shuffle is a natural groove progression into the bridge. You can't come out of that back into triplets - it does not work!!! Grace or ghost notes on snare are just that - not written but felt!!!
I'm afraid you are wrong my friend. This groove is based on a Jazz shuffle pattern, which although it's often written as a dotted 8th note, followed by a 16th note, that is not how it is actually played or felt. To make a shuffle groove "swing" the notes have to be interpreted as triplets otherwise the groove would sound very straight and would have no swing or bounce. It's also the reason why triplet fill ins blend perfectly into this groove and 16ths don't.
I found a very interesting article on this at Tiger Bill's website, which should help you learn how to interpret Jazz swing or shuffle patterns with a triplet feel. I have added the link to the video description for those who are interested.
@virtualvirus1996 I initially had the same problem...then one day, by "accident", I was able to do it...muscle-memory may have helped, but I think that another part of it was learning to perceive the triplet groove as an expansion of the 4/4 groove (with the 1st stroke of each triplet being what would be the 1/4 note of the 4/4 groove):
Great explanation in this tutorial, I posted a response with my version. I figure it'll take a quite a while before I really get the feel but it gives me something to work on.
Hey man thx for the video it helped me out a lot, I'm just starting to try and learn how to play like john bonham is there any songs or any sites i need to check out to help me learn his style.
@cheekynarnar1970 Assuming what may be Bonham's version, the basic notation for the groove: 1 r2gr(3L) r4gr1 r2gr(3L) r4gr
g = (left hand) ghost note
L = snare downbeat
The kicks come in at 1 and r of the 1st triplet, and r of the 2nd triplet, and then r of the 4th triplet. As the first measure flows into the second measure, the kick at the r of the 4th triplet r flows immediately into the kick at the 1 of the 1st triplet, giving 2 kicks in succession.
Nice vid. Very helpful in slowing down the hi-hat snare grove. I've wanted to learn the Rosanna beat for a long time so this is a perfect seaway. Still a tough beat though; especially when you have to work in a 3 count hi-ht with ghost-notes s to a ‘lenity’ kick pattern (sorry, I’m a grass-roots player—I’ve got my own language). Still, I always thought of triples as some derivative of [bass] [tom] [snapper] in independently-synchronized succession. Am I way off???
@mdstalla Regarding your last point, a drummer can play a triplet using any kit piece (drum/cymbal/etc.)...one common one is (1)tom-(2)tom-(3)kick - which in rapid succession can sound different than the written notation...in the Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle (the basis of the Rosanna and FITR beats), the triplet instead is (1)hihat-(2)snare ghostnote-(3)hihat - which in rapid succession can give a much more fluid feel/sound
hey man , im guitarist , and want to programm some drumtracks so i have to learn something about drumming , my fav drummer is ..bonham , and its real cool how you play man !
Hey Phrase, thanks for this vid, it inspired me to get a new Pearl Vision birch natural set to replace my Roland V set, and the way you've explained it is great for me as a beginner drummer.
Great job. I am just having a little trouble on this. So it's two hits on hh then ghost on snare, then once you play that for the second time you hit the snare instead of a ghost note? Is this correct?
Great job. I am just having a little trouble on this. So it's two hits on hh then ghost on snare, then once you play that for the second time you hit the snare instead of a ghost note? Is this correct?
The pattern I played in the video (starting on the first beat of the bar) is r l r r l r r l r r l r, so it's actually one hit on the hi-hat, then a ghost note on the snare then another hit on Hihat. When you add the accented snare note on beat 3, both hands play together (LR) so the pattern becomes this: r l r r l r (RL) r r l r.
As a few people have pointed, Bonzo only played snare ghost notes on the and of 2 and and of 4, so the pattern he played was more like this:
If you count the triplets like this: 1-&-a-2-&-a-3-&-a-4-&-a, then for Bonham's original pattern, you would get: 1---a-2-&-a-3---a-4-&-a. The right hand plays the 1,2,3 and 4 and all the "a"s, with the left hand only playing a ghost note on the & of 2 and & of 4, plus the accented note on beat 3, where both hands play at the same time.
LOL i can't believe i did a music performance and in the chorus did complete triplets on the bell! That is i did it on 1na 2na 3na 4na. LOL! thanks for clearing things up!
@OlTownDrumClinic Do some research and you would find the Bohnam beat is based on but very much not the same beat. Jeff Porcaro combined the Purdie and the Bohnam shuffle to creat the Rosana beat.
To play this groove requires you to have complete seperation of your footwork and your hand work. You are auctually playing two rythems within one groove. 99% of all songs DO NOT require such technical abilities. There are drummers that never accomplish this ability and are very good drummers. I'm only pointing this out so beginners like Justin are not discouraged when they climb behind their kit and discover they are not able to follow this groove. Thanks for the post, it's excellent Phrase.
@xxmickeyzeroxx I appreciate your point about 2 separate grooves...actually, although I feel that Phrase did an overall good job here, separating out the kick pattern may sometimes make it sound more difficult than necessary...as drummers (including myself) might get more proficient at using the kick, the actual kick "pattern" within a groove might seem less a "polyrhythm" than expected (i.e., spontaneously playing it within the groove may be easier than extracting/discerning the pattern...
Hi Phrase, just want to say thanks for uploading your videos. I've finally gotten round to buying my first kit at the age of 34! i'm a huge fan of Led Zeppelin and hope i can learn from your vids, all the best.
the first ten seconds is awkward lol. also how is that comfortable? your ride could be alot closer. oh and his ghost notes werent that frequent but i think someone already took you up on that issue
@hobes9 Are you that good that you can hear every single ghost note? Then let's see you put up a video of you playing it. BTW if you listen to the drum track only of this which is not only on youtube but I have a cd of it, there are that many ghost notes if you listen closely. Bonham plays a heavy back beat over it. Also when he goes up to the cymbal bell you can still hear the hi-hat going so when I play this song with my band I play my left hand on the hi-hat and my right on the cymbal bell.
@spercoco ya i have listened to the song alot actually. and i have been playing for quiet some time and things get easier to hear as you get better. im not saying im the best, does that mean i cant make any corrections?
@hobes9 I also have been playing for quite some time; 40 years to be exact. Sure you can post your comments and opinions but "corrections"? Your comment was i regard to ghost notes; well ghost notes are meant to be felt and not necessarily heard so everyone is going to play this groove slightly different but to say that one way is correct and another isn't is absurd and I'm sure Bonham himself would agree to that. I have about twenty students by the way. No such thing as "correct way".
very nice drumming my friend, I am impressed with your skill you've demonstrated here. I am at an intermediate level of drumming at the moment and, I was wondering if you could tell me a few songs you have drummed along with before learning a difficult piece such as this one. Or perhaps some drum practises or techniques i could learn to make palying this song easier THANK YOU!!!
One of my favourite Zep tunes and it's awesome seeing it explained like you have. You have a great talent.Plus, you are so calm and it's so ballsy what you do. You nailed it.Bravo
Incredible. You just solved a mystery that has been plaguing me for the last 20 years, as I could NOT figure this song out. Great drumming, man. You really have a solid groove going!
Thanks for the lesson. Besides Purdie and Pocarro, yours is the most helpful tutorial I've found on this beat. I've been practicing it for about a week and almost have it down. Very liberating to break the ghost notes barrier.
you just explained what i felt and went with to make the sound complete. i would have explained bounce your foot on the bass, keep a steady clash on the high hat and throw in the snare as needed. and yes its tricky when you bring the ride into it.
this video can show a beginning drummer how to startit slow and then bring it together. i will tell you this is an easier thing to play the the wanton song or night flight
This particular drum part has befuddled me for quite some time; I, too, eventually figured it out by listening to Jeff Porcaro. I have to say, though, your break-down of the beat is a lot more easy to understand, so I appreciate this youtube video....cheers!
when u go to the bell, u do straight R L R L triplets, could u explain wich gost notes r u playing, cuz i used to do it like than but i would wack the snare drum in 2 and 4 with my right hand, u do it weird with ur left hand n it sould awesome cuz the bell never stops, please help man!! u rock by the way
hey, could u please "Splain" the hand pattern when u go to the ride´s bell?? i cant seem to get it down... kinda confusing, if u can be like Rlrl or whatever. thanx
And pay no nevermind to negative whatever. I'm sick of arguments over small technical s; John Bonham played it *exactly* like John Bonham, we can listen to Zep albums if we want an exact facsimile of Fool in the Rain. I'm pretty sure Bernard Purdie "invented" this beat anyway; you didn't think Bonham did...? He made it his own, like this dude did in this video. Cheers brotha.
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I'm a guitarist, so as a guy who's only fiddled a bit with drumming, I find this to require a great deal of coordination, which drumming does in general as is uses the hands and feet.
Great job.
Love your accent, especially when you say "quarter."
Very useful, Fronzo! Thanks for this video! When I watched your drum cover, I was like "How does he do that?" And then, I saw you gave a lesson, so I watched it (only about a thousand times) and I started to pick up on it. I still can't play it completely but I'm improving. Thanks for your help. You're a great drummer! Keep playing and rock on Led Zeppelin!
Amazing! That's complicated! Thanks for teaching me! You're my favorite drummer that looks like Bonzo, himself, which there aren't many! You're the only one I know, and if I did know more drummers that looked like Bonzo, you would still be my favorite drummer! Check out madmaxdrums777 and specialanthony. They are good, too!
I'm a guitarist who fucks around on drums, and thanks to you, I'll be able to play this beat. Granted, the meter will be fucked and the drum fills will be fairly shit, but hey, I'll nail that beat..
Those ghost notes don't belong there. theres only 2 ghost notes in the whole phrase. your doing a mix between the purdie shuffle and the foolin the rain groove.
Phrase, First off, great playing. I am very new to drumming lol. I did not even know what the heck a hi hat was at first, but John Bonham inspired me to go out and buy a drumset. Do you have any tips for drummers just starting? Do you know any beats that would help get my groove better?? Thank you man. Keep on playing!
Hi Justin, I would start with something easy, like Highway to Hell by ACDC. Try to learn some Swing beats too, Green Onions is a good tune, maybe something from the 50's and 60's too like Blue Suede Shoes. Just listen to as much music as possible and try to work out what the drummer is playing and see if you can copy it. Once you get better you can try more difficult beats like this one! I am self taught but you will learn a lot faster if you have a good teacher!
@Phrase Thank you very much Phrase. I am pretty stubborn on music lol, and I love teaching myself new things. So I shall try your advice. Thanks again.
A great fun groove to play. Thanks for clearing up a few things for me, great posting. Your kit sounds incredible!! Are those the good old 15" 2002 Sound Edge HH's?
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Well explained, I've been messing around with something similar before I saw this and the Bernard Purdie shuffle, and now have ideas on how to take the beat to the next level..
Thank you, Fronzo, for breaking down the triplet shuffle and bass drum into a sensible follow-along lesson
ColonialDrummerDad 4 days ago
Thanks for the great video. Starting to get this one and can kind of do the "good times bad times" lesson you posted. I don't know if I could ever do the high hat in GTBT through out.
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1scruluse 1 week ago
Dude! What a gem you have uploaded. Thank you. I am a new drummer and this is right up my alley. I am currently working on separating the right hand from the right foot: whew this is a chore. but all in on my way - thanks to you!
Rob
Henderson, nevada
robmanzanares 2 weeks ago
Good job. Also, Bernard Purdie is a dope drummer.
kingmike3000 3 weeks ago
Drummers. Please stop the madness. This is not triplets! Triplets are entirely different 1 and ah 2 and ah etc. This is a very simple shuffle 1 and 2 and etc. This is why the half-time shuffle is a natural groove progression into the bridge. You can't come out of that back into triplets - it does not work!!! Grace or ghost notes on snare are just that - not written but felt!!!
yahatinda2012 1 month ago
@yahatinda2012
I'm afraid you are wrong my friend. This groove is based on a Jazz shuffle pattern, which although it's often written as a dotted 8th note, followed by a 16th note, that is not how it is actually played or felt. To make a shuffle groove "swing" the notes have to be interpreted as triplets otherwise the groove would sound very straight and would have no swing or bounce. It's also the reason why triplet fill ins blend perfectly into this groove and 16ths don't.
Phrase 1 month ago
I found a very interesting article on this at Tiger Bill's website, which should help you learn how to interpret Jazz swing or shuffle patterns with a triplet feel. I have added the link to the video description for those who are interested.
Phrase 1 month ago
paiste 2002s? :)
beatsundreime 1 month ago
Best Vid by a LONG SHOT if someone is trying to learn this beat.
GREAT JOB !
jordanjcm 3 months ago
JESUS CHRIST! what the hell is that under your rack tom!?
herbandsarah 3 months ago
Awesome job. Thanks for your effort. You made it look easy.
bigdrummer67 5 months ago
1:40 K, put the hands in....
EPIC
RSG220 5 months ago
thanks bro! i just learned my first led zeppelin song :)
HelloMyNamesBlake 5 months ago
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You should work with a metronome
willsgotrythm42 5 months ago
i can get the triplets and bass Seperately, but its hard to put them together. have any advice?? thanks
virtualvirus1996 5 months ago
@virtualvirus1996 I initially had the same problem...then one day, by "accident", I was able to do it...muscle-memory may have helped, but I think that another part of it was learning to perceive the triplet groove as an expansion of the 4/4 groove (with the 1st stroke of each triplet being what would be the 1/4 note of the 4/4 groove):
1gr2gr(3L)gr4gr1gr2gr(3L)gr4gr
g = (left hand) ghost note
L = snare downbeat
Bonham's version was possibly:
1 r2gr(3L) r4gr1 r2gr(3L) r4gr
davss5 3 weeks ago
Thanks, man. I was completely faking it when my band played this song. Appreciate it.
bedwettinglib 6 months ago
18 people dont have the "bonham" swing!
SLAPINDEBASSnFRIENDS 6 months ago
awesome man
IveeChew 6 months ago
I love you because you're scottish
lostlov30 6 months ago
Great explanation in this tutorial, I posted a response with my version. I figure it'll take a quite a while before I really get the feel but it gives me something to work on.
ericgtr 6 months ago
I wish I could give this video 1,000,000 stars for so many reasons.
brizforshiz 7 months ago
maybe the best drum groove in the world:)
chrizwiz 7 months ago
lots of people can play this riff, but not many can explain how to play it. Top Job!! many thanks
NickSayle 7 months ago
I'm a jazz drummer and have been struggling to get this groove for MONTHS! This has been the best tutorial I've seen. Thanks for this, mate.
AlexMPruteanu 7 months ago
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kevinl03 7 months ago
Perfect!
GuitarsAmSuck 7 months ago
....Excellent! Thank you for this! Bonham would be proud of you too!
drumminghunter 7 months ago
Hey man thx for the video it helped me out a lot, I'm just starting to try and learn how to play like john bonham is there any songs or any sites i need to check out to help me learn his style.
sttfanohio 7 months ago
fake
elhefe4 8 months ago
Very cool, but what about the section in the middle? The latin thing?
dasdrums 8 months ago
hey mate !! finally got it !! thanks for your help !! cheers !! although i think you put in more ghost notes than bonham,i think its half that -
giggie 8 months ago
hey mate !! finally got it !! thanks for your help !! cheers !!
giggie 8 months ago
jeez i still cant play it :/ !!
giggie 8 months ago
Your bonzo drum examples are ALWAYS spot on! Thanks so much for taking time to teach us these grooves!
ALEXXvsZOMBIES 8 months ago
This is a GREAT explanation. Thanks!
greenfruitface 8 months ago
i could seriously listen to you talk all day. thanks for the video. spot on.
BrandonGH5 9 months ago
Thanks for doin that. I will keep tryin but I cant do everything together. UGH!!!
robfolcroft 9 months ago
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH :D
arroz100 9 months ago
Beautifully played, really musical and groovey. Excellent job.
TeddyBerkeley 9 months ago
Fantastic 10 / 10 Simply Fantastic!
drumsonly2002 9 months ago
Great lesson! I'm pumped up just watching it. Can't wait to practice. Cheers!
evergara75 10 months ago
good.... but incorrect nice try though ;D
blowsmymind24 10 months ago
@blowsmymind24 What part was incorrect exactly?
p0llenp0ny 9 months ago
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simensolvang07 10 months ago
love this - struggling with the bass though, counting it in the triplets.....any ideas?
cheekynarnar1970 10 months ago
@cheekynarnar1970 Assuming what may be Bonham's version, the basic notation for the groove: 1 r2gr(3L) r4gr1 r2gr(3L) r4gr
g = (left hand) ghost note
L = snare downbeat
The kicks come in at 1 and r of the 1st triplet, and r of the 2nd triplet, and then r of the 4th triplet. As the first measure flows into the second measure, the kick at the r of the 4th triplet r flows immediately into the kick at the 1 of the 1st triplet, giving 2 kicks in succession.
davss5 3 weeks ago
pls do a tutorial on the crunge
XoRetroHeadphonesXo 10 months ago
Great video!
josephwastaken 10 months ago
You're a beast Phrase! Thanks again man... Everytime I watch, I pick up a little more. Genius lesson.
upnsmoke 10 months ago
Nice vid. Very helpful in slowing down the hi-hat snare grove. I've wanted to learn the Rosanna beat for a long time so this is a perfect seaway. Still a tough beat though; especially when you have to work in a 3 count hi-ht with ghost-notes s to a ‘lenity’ kick pattern (sorry, I’m a grass-roots player—I’ve got my own language). Still, I always thought of triples as some derivative of [bass] [tom] [snapper] in independently-synchronized succession. Am I way off???
mdstalla 10 months ago
@mdstalla Regarding your last point, a drummer can play a triplet using any kit piece (drum/cymbal/etc.)...one common one is (1)tom-(2)tom-(3)kick - which in rapid succession can sound different than the written notation...in the Bernard Purdie Half-Time Shuffle (the basis of the Rosanna and FITR beats), the triplet instead is (1)hihat-(2)snare ghostnote-(3)hihat - which in rapid succession can give a much more fluid feel/sound
davss5 3 weeks ago
Awesome
rtstrude 10 months ago
Jesus you make it look easy!
annikee59 10 months ago
@annikee59
Actually it is. It just takes repetition in order to get it under your hands. Then you'll be playing it like its nothing too.
MrUSChopper06 10 months ago
hey man , im guitarist , and want to programm some drumtracks so i have to learn something about drumming , my fav drummer is ..bonham , and its real cool how you play man !
thanx for the lesson
ThrashRoC 11 months ago
Fuckin great job, man. Old John Henry's still the best all-round 'musical' drummer ever, and anyone who can't see that has no soul.
SARGEisRED 11 months ago
In the words of the great man FARRKIN HELL!
searchlight17 11 months ago
fucking great...
bongohutter 1 year ago
Hey Phrase, thanks for this vid, it inspired me to get a new Pearl Vision birch natural set to replace my Roland V set, and the way you've explained it is great for me as a beginner drummer.
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Great job. I am just having a little trouble on this. So it's two hits on hh then ghost on snare, then once you play that for the second time you hit the snare instead of a ghost note? Is this correct?
dostoyevesky12 1 year ago
Great job. I am just having a little trouble on this. So it's two hits on hh then ghost on snare, then once you play that for the second time you hit the snare instead of a ghost note? Is this correct?
dostoyevesky12 1 year ago
@dostoyevesky12
The pattern I played in the video (starting on the first beat of the bar) is r l r r l r r l r r l r, so it's actually one hit on the hi-hat, then a ghost note on the snare then another hit on Hihat. When you add the accented snare note on beat 3, both hands play together (LR) so the pattern becomes this: r l r r l r (RL) r r l r.
As a few people have pointed, Bonzo only played snare ghost notes on the and of 2 and and of 4, so the pattern he played was more like this:
Phrase 10 months ago
r - r r l r (RL) - r r l r.
If you count the triplets like this: 1-&-a-2-&-a-3-&-a-4-&-a, then for Bonham's original pattern, you would get: 1---a-2-&-a-3---a-4-&-a. The right hand plays the 1,2,3 and 4 and all the "a"s, with the left hand only playing a ghost note on the & of 2 and & of 4, plus the accented note on beat 3, where both hands play at the same time.
Hope this helps
Phrase 10 months ago 2
@Phrase this helped a lot
MattCingari3 10 months ago
Nice work. Good explaination. Thanks for sharing. Regards from Holland. Rob Elbers.
elber449 1 year ago
*Awkward silence....* HAHA love it :)
HipCovers 1 year ago
LOL i can't believe i did a music performance and in the chorus did complete triplets on the bell! That is i did it on 1na 2na 3na 4na. LOL! thanks for clearing things up!
ChoppiProductions 1 year ago
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OlTownDrumClinic 1 year ago
@OlTownDrumClinic Do some research and you would find the Bohnam beat is based on but very much not the same beat. Jeff Porcaro combined the Purdie and the Bohnam shuffle to creat the Rosana beat.
marcusdolby1 1 year ago
To play this groove requires you to have complete seperation of your footwork and your hand work. You are auctually playing two rythems within one groove. 99% of all songs DO NOT require such technical abilities. There are drummers that never accomplish this ability and are very good drummers. I'm only pointing this out so beginners like Justin are not discouraged when they climb behind their kit and discover they are not able to follow this groove. Thanks for the post, it's excellent Phrase.
xxmickeyzeroxx 1 year ago
@xxmickeyzeroxx I appreciate your point about 2 separate grooves...actually, although I feel that Phrase did an overall good job here, separating out the kick pattern may sometimes make it sound more difficult than necessary...as drummers (including myself) might get more proficient at using the kick, the actual kick "pattern" within a groove might seem less a "polyrhythm" than expected (i.e., spontaneously playing it within the groove may be easier than extracting/discerning the pattern...
davss5 3 weeks ago
Que grande sos!..
TheSagnac 1 year ago
Cheers mate, very helpful
jpritch69 1 year ago
the british accent did it man!
jamirosmajicrocks 1 year ago
thanx for breaking it down man! i've played for a while now, and couldn't figure it out!! having it broke down helps alot, thanx!
MyPablodiablo 1 year ago
whoever invented the high hat did more for humanity than J. Salk. Thats pure bliss ladies and gents! well done, mate.
hakksaw 1 year ago
mate you have made this seemingly impossible groove so much easier to me. thank you man.
RuariMcGlone 1 year ago
100,000 views at last LOL! Pity it took 3 years, but what the hell...
Phrase 1 year ago 13
@Phrase lol, most people dont take classic music too serious now-a-days lol. they dont give it a chance, so they dont know how awesome it really is.
virtualvirus1996 5 months ago
nice vid!
zirstoren 1 year ago
nice!
formattester6 1 year ago
Hi Phrase, just want to say thanks for uploading your videos. I've finally gotten round to buying my first kit at the age of 34! i'm a huge fan of Led Zeppelin and hope i can learn from your vids, all the best.
AWOLMAG 1 year ago
Sounds great! Also, your accent is awesome!
Ataborman 1 year ago
Very helpful. Thanks.
HuskerRedTradition 1 year ago
very well done sir
beasst94 1 year ago
thanks!
Pauschable 1 year ago
Why does his video keep buffering? Is it my computer/connection?
dmarkj22 1 year ago
Very well done
kittymongous 1 year ago
drums are fucking hard
Cidantis 1 year ago
@Cidantis keep prackying
shaftsbury94 1 year ago
the first ten seconds is awkward lol. also how is that comfortable? your ride could be alot closer. oh and his ghost notes werent that frequent but i think someone already took you up on that issue
hobes9 1 year ago
@hobes9 Are you that good that you can hear every single ghost note? Then let's see you put up a video of you playing it. BTW if you listen to the drum track only of this which is not only on youtube but I have a cd of it, there are that many ghost notes if you listen closely. Bonham plays a heavy back beat over it. Also when he goes up to the cymbal bell you can still hear the hi-hat going so when I play this song with my band I play my left hand on the hi-hat and my right on the cymbal bell.
spercoco 1 year ago
@spercoco ya i have listened to the song alot actually. and i have been playing for quiet some time and things get easier to hear as you get better. im not saying im the best, does that mean i cant make any corrections?
hobes9 1 year ago
@hobes9 I also have been playing for quite some time; 40 years to be exact. Sure you can post your comments and opinions but "corrections"? Your comment was i regard to ghost notes; well ghost notes are meant to be felt and not necessarily heard so everyone is going to play this groove slightly different but to say that one way is correct and another isn't is absurd and I'm sure Bonham himself would agree to that. I have about twenty students by the way. No such thing as "correct way".
spercoco 1 year ago
the first ten seconds is awkward lol
hobes9 1 year ago
0.00 - 0.10 Just taking a moment to remember the fallen. We miss you Bonzo.
thejazzz 1 year ago
Moment of silence?
12092DannyH 1 year ago
This lesson cleared up sooooo many things for me!! thanks so much!
Floatsforlife 1 year ago
very nice drumming my friend, I am impressed with your skill you've demonstrated here. I am at an intermediate level of drumming at the moment and, I was wondering if you could tell me a few songs you have drummed along with before learning a difficult piece such as this one. Or perhaps some drum practises or techniques i could learn to make palying this song easier THANK YOU!!!
MrYeldoom 1 year ago
Hey man what kind of snare do you use?
surtursfire 1 year ago
Well done, Scotsman!
Excellent lesson. You break it down so simply. I can pretty much play the entire song just from checking out this video.
Much appreciated,
IAP
galius1 1 year ago
Thats the Purdie Shuffle, 2 & 4 on the snare not constent ghosting for John's beat. But still good!
brobade 1 year ago
this is probably the best breakdown of this beat on all of youtube
wildhorse4262 1 year ago
Man your awesome!Great hands,can you show how to play the crunge?
frumgota 1 year ago
nice one man!!! i like the way you teach hahaha,I need to buy a kit again hehehe
cleipotz 1 year ago
One of my favourite Zep tunes and it's awesome seeing it explained like you have. You have a great talent.Plus, you are so calm and it's so ballsy what you do. You nailed it.Bravo
logixish 1 year ago
Incredible. You just solved a mystery that has been plaguing me for the last 20 years, as I could NOT figure this song out. Great drumming, man. You really have a solid groove going!
Jaydub204 1 year ago
Really nice man...! Thanks a lot
americcianisti 1 year ago
Nothing sqeaks like a Speed King, but when you've got groove like this, who cares.
alianyla3 1 year ago
Nice, that was real nice. As a drummer I can say I learned a few things from watching this. Thanks man.
codec98 1 year ago
is there a place where i can get the written music for this?
hobes9 1 year ago
Thanks for the lesson. Besides Purdie and Pocarro, yours is the most helpful tutorial I've found on this beat. I've been practicing it for about a week and almost have it down. Very liberating to break the ghost notes barrier.
Parkyurkarkas 1 year ago
Nice playing!
Catagator 1 year ago
Ya dude good job but your doing to many ghost notes.
bobbymilner123 1 year ago
thanks man / love this beat and you made it easy to put to my kit
drumsbare 1 year ago
Great job, but your putting too many ghost notes in. You can pick out everything perfectly in the "Fool in the Rain" outtake video.
lildondon29 1 year ago
wow, nice man, and thanks a lot! i feel like if i can get this song down i will have rwached a major milestone in my drumming
WVUrockerBoy 1 year ago
That's excellent!
CheeseBoy86 1 year ago
yo great job man !! i just wish you could have explained how you add in the accent on the snare on count 3
bobbymilner123 1 year ago
Thank you. I've learnt so much from this video.
tamasuperstar002 1 year ago
hey have you seen julian pavone play fool in the rain haha its amazing and he was only five at the time?
menchaca72 1 year ago
you just explained what i felt and went with to make the sound complete. i would have explained bounce your foot on the bass, keep a steady clash on the high hat and throw in the snare as needed. and yes its tricky when you bring the ride into it.
this video can show a beginning drummer how to startit slow and then bring it together. i will tell you this is an easier thing to play the the wanton song or night flight
zepfan74 1 year ago
This particular drum part has befuddled me for quite some time; I, too, eventually figured it out by listening to Jeff Porcaro. I have to say, though, your break-down of the beat is a lot more easy to understand, so I appreciate this youtube video....cheers!
Timcoplawyer 1 year ago
The best so far
TatoArtavia 1 year ago
At first it sounded different. Then you played it, it sounded perfect. Excellent job.
mrfitness123 1 year ago 12
im a drummer as well loved the way u explained it kool video bro
Raincitywarrior 1 year ago
Hey Phrase,
great video man, you've got amazing groove.
blackorwhite16 1 year ago 15
when u go to the bell, u do straight R L R L triplets, could u explain wich gost notes r u playing, cuz i used to do it like than but i would wack the snare drum in 2 and 4 with my right hand, u do it weird with ur left hand n it sould awesome cuz the bell never stops, please help man!! u rock by the way
stainwalk 1 year ago
hey, could u please "Splain" the hand pattern when u go to the ride´s bell?? i cant seem to get it down... kinda confusing, if u can be like Rlrl or whatever. thanx
stainwalk 1 year ago
wow ,brother! this is just amazing feel you've got there!
Thank you!
m4drums 1 year ago
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What a great!
Your feeling is Bonzo. So real!
I love your Drums!!
Very nice Tips.
Thank you so much!
popmail8 1 year ago
What a great!
Your feeling is Bonzo. So real!
I love your Drums!!
Very nice Tips.
Thank you so much!
popmail8 1 year ago
And pay no nevermind to negative whatever. I'm sick of arguments over small technical s; John Bonham played it *exactly* like John Bonham, we can listen to Zep albums if we want an exact facsimile of Fool in the Rain. I'm pretty sure Bernard Purdie "invented" this beat anyway; you didn't think Bonham did...? He made it his own, like this dude did in this video. Cheers brotha.
ascetic43 1 year ago
Very helpful, thanks dude; and tight playing. Cheers.
ascetic43 1 year ago
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lidwish 1 year ago
I'm a guitarist, so as a guy who's only fiddled a bit with drumming, I find this to require a great deal of coordination, which drumming does in general as is uses the hands and feet.
Great job.
Love your accent, especially when you say "quarter."
Cheers from America.
StumptownBoy 1 year ago
Very useful, Fronzo! Thanks for this video! When I watched your drum cover, I was like "How does he do that?" And then, I saw you gave a lesson, so I watched it (only about a thousand times) and I started to pick up on it. I still can't play it completely but I'm improving. Thanks for your help. You're a great drummer! Keep playing and rock on Led Zeppelin!
CMD9889 1 year ago
Amazing! That's complicated! Thanks for teaching me! You're my favorite drummer that looks like Bonzo, himself, which there aren't many! You're the only one I know, and if I did know more drummers that looked like Bonzo, you would still be my favorite drummer! Check out madmaxdrums777 and specialanthony. They are good, too!
CMD9889 1 year ago
nice playing can you do wearing & tearing? now thats hard to play :)
johnfchampagnejr 1 year ago
Nice playing, your drums sound great
shoogabooga80 1 year ago
while on the ride, open and close the hi hat every other time
sevenincher 1 year ago
thanks again bro
1 day later and my shuffle is 100% better.
tommorrow, its under my belt.
all to you bro
thx
derwoody1 1 year ago
do you intentionally have a squeeky pedal?
it sounds perfect
best lesson yet for this song by far
dude
quite clearly
you rock
derwoody1 1 year ago
I'm a guitarist who fucks around on drums, and thanks to you, I'll be able to play this beat. Granted, the meter will be fucked and the drum fills will be fairly shit, but hey, I'll nail that beat..
DougFCKNSteele 1 year ago
Those ghost notes don't belong there. theres only 2 ghost notes in the whole phrase. your doing a mix between the purdie shuffle and the foolin the rain groove.
xdoseonex 1 year ago
John sure looks different.....
Lunarmoonbase2 1 year ago
holy fuck dude, close ur eyes and youd think ol' bonzo himself was playin
bonham0924 1 year ago
Great lesson! Good clear explanation, good sound, and a great help to us stragglers!
Thanks for posting!
All the best, T.
taytohead 1 year ago
goood
lessmann009 1 year ago
Do you have 2002 hats?? It looks like it
iLikeAntiFlag 1 year ago
just superb!
redfordroadie 1 year ago
Bonzo was a Fusion style drummer like Mitch Mitchell ,and Ginger Baker .....I
tymobilenews 1 year ago
Cheers Fronzo,I loved the way you break it down.I love this beat.
Cheers Pip,another Bonzo fan.
pipgoat 1 year ago
Phrase, First off, great playing. I am very new to drumming lol. I did not even know what the heck a hi hat was at first, but John Bonham inspired me to go out and buy a drumset. Do you have any tips for drummers just starting? Do you know any beats that would help get my groove better?? Thank you man. Keep on playing!
JustinPierce1226 1 year ago 3
@JustinPierce1226
Hi Justin, I would start with something easy, like Highway to Hell by ACDC. Try to learn some Swing beats too, Green Onions is a good tune, maybe something from the 50's and 60's too like Blue Suede Shoes. Just listen to as much music as possible and try to work out what the drummer is playing and see if you can copy it. Once you get better you can try more difficult beats like this one! I am self taught but you will learn a lot faster if you have a good teacher!
Phrase 1 year ago 2
@Phrase Thank you very much Phrase. I am pretty stubborn on music lol, and I love teaching myself new things. So I shall try your advice. Thanks again.
JustinPierce1226 1 year ago
@Phrase also a great thing is to practice rudiments....
simbadog932 1 year ago
A great fun groove to play. Thanks for clearing up a few things for me, great posting. Your kit sounds incredible!! Are those the good old 15" 2002 Sound Edge HH's?
madisonlucas 1 year ago
that drum line is nothing less than genius
44eelz 1 year ago
holy cow
kdanielsgrl 1 year ago
holy cow
kdanielsgrl 1 year ago
Well-done. In fact, excellent!
dltodd1966 1 year ago
Very very helpful the Ride part, u r a good drummer, very smooth
m1bug 1 year ago
hahaha 1:57 once you close the high hat, it's pretty much muted man xD
FindingMyF33t 1 year ago
i've watched this video a few times before but never really listened to the directions until just now... Lol
purphanz 1 year ago
nice
ilovehorsecockyeah 1 year ago
thanks dude!! this video helps a lot!
cheers!
fuckerrales 1 year ago
Damn son! You're pretty nasty on the drums.
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Mikespyke 1 year ago
AMAZING!!
MsJoelski 1 year ago
Awesome stuff......oh how i wish i could play that groove
nottudyug 1 year ago
Well explained, I've been messing around with something similar before I saw this and the Bernard Purdie shuffle, and now have ideas on how to take the beat to the next level..
etpetnel 1 year ago
Good Job !!
baccio62 1 year ago
great job man.
MrCuccio2008 1 year ago
Excellento!
I've been hammering on this cool pattern for a time now. You're video has helped explain it quite well. Great job!
Still having problems with the 4-way independence of it. :-(
Oh well! Still plugging at it.
ghostnote35 1 year ago
That's probably the best rendition I've seen on the net. Most people either disregard the ghost-notes or the high-hat flare. really good job
gwilipea 1 year ago
Thank You man. This was really nice. I can see that bonzo is your favorite as mine ;) .
drazj 1 year ago
holy shit dude, thank you so much. I can't even tell you how much better you've made me.
loudbrownstump 1 year ago
Probably one of the best "Bonham" drummers on the net. Does a great job on all the tunes covered.
bmc121723 1 year ago