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  • Everybody watch this: /watch?v=uA-Mt4y2tAQ&feature=r­­­elated

    Watch the face of the Sphinx also.

  • First of all Homer never spoke of black warriors in the Trojan War or anywhere, Herodotus distinguished between Ethiopians and Egyptians. The former being darker. He viewed them as different, Now afro-centrics with the help of racist Fryomians financially backed Bernal's book and debut, It would be nice if they cold read Greek. Black Athena Revisited by Lefkowitz and Clarke pointed out his lack of scholarship. You do realize he is Chinese professor=out of his league of expertise.

  • @amergk it is quite apparent that you have never read anything written by Herodotus. I said nothing about black trojans. He describes the BLACK Egyptians AS THE CONQUERED of the black Ethiopians millennial before his own time and then go read Cheikh Ante Diop African Origins of Civilizations. 18th century "egyptologists" couldnt get away from the blackness of the Ancient Egyptians. Europeans whitewashed African history and they dont want to deal with original sources which prove it all!

  • @TheKushitequeen It's apparent you only have read afro-centric mistaken versions & interpretations of Herodotus. Not Greeks, or ones of Scholarship. naming Driop reveals that. he has been dismissed long ago.. But DNA, nullifies your argument. Herodotus differentiated Egyptians from Ethiopians. Ethiopians were dark or as you would call them black but you have to remember Herodotus came after the Nubian invasion of 700 BC of Egypt and you didn't think of that.

  • @amergk White people are in so much denial its mind boggling. Have you even seen the images in Nubia and Kemet there is no such thing as the Nubian invasion. Narmer was a Nubian himself!!! Your own most early scholars knew by their viewing that the Egyptians were black long before any Asians or Europeans came. If the Egyptians were white then why is it they placed whites on the lowest realm of civilized peoples? How come they never painted theirs gods white? And never themselves white?

  • @TheKushitequeen I told you dear, your wrong you don't understand Greek. Herodotus only spoke about Ethiopians, not Egyptians. I also said Prove the iGENEA Wrong and I will back you. But You can't.....

  • It is completely amazing to me that these so called scholars who disagree, have the highest degrees from the best universities the world has to offer and completely ignore the writings of the so called father of history Herodotus and Homer who acknowledged and verified what Bernal is saying. After all I think those two would be best qualified to make that assessment since they were Greeks and did live during the time in question!

  • One can steal designs, plans and other intellectual property, BUT it's ANOTHER thing entirely to ERASE from the minds of the creators of these advances their OWN knowledge of their creation and it is even less likely that in stealing these advances, the Greeks and Romans had somehow EXTINGUISHED the spark that gave rise to it in the Black African people. Had these advances ORIGINATED with Black Africans, they would have been far in advance of Western Europe, and, in fact, they were and are NOT.

  • @youngoldbones so explain the dark ages in europe,an plz europe was not advance in anything what are you talking about lol....

  • The problem with Bernals hypothesis is that IF Blacks HAD been the bearers of high civilization in the past Why, why, OH WHY, is there NO civilization in Africa that rival those of Europe? IF amongst them had been the spark of civilization, why had that fire DIED in Africa? If Western society has difficulty believing this idea of Mr. Bernal, it is because of the African people themselves and their own lack of sophistication in the areas in which the Greeks and Romans excelled.

  • @youngoldbones

    You don't know Africa. Look in the face of the Sphinx.

  • NO, NO!!! PROFESSOR TOUBOUCTOO, SAYS THAT REALY GREEKS ARE 1000 LAPONES AND ESKIMOS AFTER THEY COME SOME OF ZOULOU, (ABOUT 400), 50.000 NIGERIANS, 3000 ETHIOPIANS AFTER THEM THEY ARRIVED 150.000 PAKESTANS, 20.000 BAGLADEZIANS, 12.000 TURKS-MOGOLIANS, AND AT LAST 300 GIPSIES OF SPARTAN IN ORDER TO SUCCEED THE MIXTURE AND SUCCED AND BECOME A NATION WITH INCLINATION AT THE EDUCATION AND SCIENCE AND AT THE ATHLETICS.

  • @bassbasketball03 INFLUENCE xmm,

    If we the Greeks ... BUT WE HAVE NOT !

    I will agree with you about INFLUENCE but the other way around,

    THEY COPY US .. for examble LOOK ALL The Buildings ALL OVER THE WORLD GREEK STYLE, NOTHING AFRICA.

    LOOK KING ALEXANDER AND HIS EMPIRE...PURE GREEK NO COPY !

    I WILL COPY ALSO @makedonchesto

    AT LEAST YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE FEW WHO DO NOT CLAIM SOMETHING (No one said anything about the Ancient Greeks being black) STUPID LIKE THAT.

    Peace bro,¬))

  • @Khylia2010 let me put it this way, the skin will change color but will be a mix color and if for a chance will be one100% (happens) of one or another color, this never happens with all generations, or in a family of 3, 4, or 5 kids.

    Anyway, i am a person which i see all human as brothers and sisters.-))

    I hope this help. People who spread misinformation and lies know they have little to lose ...OR ... TO GAIN A LOT !

    It's up to you to find out, WHO & WHY !

    .

    BE PROUT OF WHAT YOU ARE !

  • @Khylia2010 I fear your faith is gravely misplaced. I will explain in a simple way. Genes are like breast cancer always will be there and the ''lusky'' one will get it.

    I am afraid you are wrong, DO search/ask experts, will help. Also this is a bed time story for kids

    .... If their children followed in the same footsteps, the Obama grandchildren or great-grand children....

    It's nice to believe but....there is nothing black about GREEK people !

    LOOK AROUND YOU, dont be a naive person¬))

  • I'm just saying, get your facts right before you try to make a statement on something you CLEARLY know nothing about.

  • Reuters & Discovery Channel.showed that King Tut belonged to a genetic profile group, known as haplogroup R1b1a2, more than 50%t of all men in Western Europe belong, indicating they share a common ancestor.Modern-day Egyptians this haplogroup is below 1%, to iGENEAScientists at Zurich DNA genealogy centre, reconstructed DNA of TUT..Not only are Greeks not Black but the Egyptians they say came from weren't black either. The black afro-centric myth is over, as is this Fyromian site!

  • @amergk copypasta!

  • @newfish09 And it is the TRUTH. not this black Athena bullshiite set up on this site by a slav calling himself a Macedonian, which implies Greeks are inferior because they are (black) a lie. and that they acquire all their knowledge from Egypt which they didn't. Which wasn't black in the first place. Now blacks jumped on it because they wanted to be called Greeks and Egyptians of old. A mistake because they are neither. And your wimpy-assed opinion is?

  • @amergk Whats the point of you repeating the same comment on every afrocentric video?

  • @newfish09 THE TRUTH.

  • @newfish09 I noticed you asked this question site #2. if you had asked it on site #1. Well you get the idea.

  • @amergk plz google queen tiye tut grandmother....plz look at his father.....an his mother which is his father sister...you white people need to get off your high horse an bow down to the truth..you have no damn control over anyone dna or to handle it an you are telling me you believe thos bullshit lies hahaha.....fact.1 king tut was diagnosed with sickle cell anemia an look an black africans are the only one capable with tha disease

  • @B7acKLioN Sorry, No to all your racial statements. Science and DNA has proven you wrong about Tut and his grand-parents. iGENA and Hawass say otherwise. Finally, sickle cell isa disease that humans developed when our bodies over immune us to combat malaria. It afflicts blacks mostly yes but all areas of the world can have it where mosquitoes and malaria reside. Look if the facts said otherwise I wouldn't care. but they don't, nor were Greeks black.

  • @B7acKLioN This site was produced by a bigoted fyromian. However, I see you have some racial issues you should attend too also.

  • @amergk Anta Diop and other people proved that the Ancient Egyptians were black. If they weren't balck what race were they?

  • @GozzyWozzy Diop was never accepted by academy and DNA recently released really extinguishes his words. Read above.

  • All right, if you are sure they were not influenced by others then tell me why would they say contrary?

    Why would the Greeks say they were influenced by Egypt if they were not?

    I'm pretty sure you should have an intelligent explanation for this simple question since you wanted to provoke me.

    (And by the way no one thinks the CLASSICAL greeks were all black. You just misinterpret what people say...)

    :)

  • @bassbasketball03 ...but they were INFLUENCED by blacks ????

    SO WHERE IS YOUR MONIMEND ???

    WHAT YOU HAVE TO SHOW LIKE THE GREEKS ?

    .

    NOTHING !

    ALSO YOU SAID,

    No one said anything about the Ancient Greeks being black. AT LEAST YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE FEW WHO DO NOT CLAIM SOMETHING STUPID LIKE THAT.

    GOOD FOR YOU `))

  • 2:24 the man should teach that? teach that choosing NOT TO TEACH clueless thoughts and hypotheses without evidence about the GREATEST CIVILIZATION in the WORLD HISTORY is a tool of racism and MIND control? The mind can be a dangerous tool and he is using it against students whom have not yet all learned that the teacher might be wrong as well! Good God how can you move on if you see RACISM wherever you look at? in 3:06 he says Mr Bernal is BRINGING FORTH THE TRUTH

    -NO he is bringing his thoughts

  • Civilization is a recent development.

    It didn't happen at the dawn of time when everyone was black.

  • The video on YouTube called THE INCREDIBLE HUMAN JOURNEY europe part 1 of 6, was made by the BBC... and this documentary shows you that the first europeans were black.

  • People some how will believe everything others telling them...

    For GOD sake wake up. They brainwash people all over the world and on everything with one reason. CONTROL . If they break up your religion language and most of all HISTORY, than you are nothing.

    They need slaves, NOT PROUT NATIONS, slaves do not have HISTORY, slaves DO NOT HAVE NAMES.

    "black Athena" it's a lie.

  • @makedonchesto

    The Ancient Greeks themselves said that their knowledge came from Egypt and Asia. The greeks are the number one best fit people to tell their own story. They said that blacks and asians were the ones who brought civilization not themselves. This is what is talked about in Black Athena. Therefore, "Black Athena" is not a lie. No one said anything about the Ancient Greeks being black but they were INFLUENCED by blacks! So you sir are the one who needs to wake up.

  • @FBHOME1 i am sorry to say what you call concrete facts are nonseness, if was true why not 2/3 of them but 1/3 blacks ??

    they are white skin and that's fact. I am not rasist but i can see somehow the blacks feel alot better thinking they may have a conection with THE GREEKS AND THEIR HISTORY.

    i feel sorry for people who believe this sh*

  • The Black Athena it's a lie from someone who hate the GREKS, someone who is looking for making a name of himself and money.

    WAKE UP. DON'T NAIVE AND ALLOW THEM USIN COLOR FOR PERSONAL GAINS!

  • @makedonchesto black athena is the truth and there is sound concrete facts to prove and back it up the Ancient greeks said it themselfs.herotous among others.

  • SCIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT BLACK GENE IS DOMINANT (in color only), WHITE GENE IS RECESSIVE if "black athena" was true..more then half of GREEK people should have been BLACK !

    NOT TRUE, they are white. .

    example...OBAMA FAMILY, BLACK FATHER WHITE MOTHER

  • @FYROmonkey1 that is pure ignorance on your part. If you knew anything about science and genes, you would know that the gene for skin color is, in fact, NOT dominant or recessive. It IS, however, Co-Dominant. If President Obama had children with a White woman, their children would have very little melanin. If their children followed in the same footsteps, the Obama grandchildren or great-grand children would look nothing like the descendant of a Black man.

  • @FYROmonkey1 If u truly understood the concept than u would understand that he merely state the the Greeks stole ideas of civilization as far as religion and government is concerned

  • @FYROmonkey1 You ignore the obvious and don't make sense. Why aren't more North Americans "Indians".Because of warfare, disease genocide, interbreeding and most significantly-IMMIGRATION OF MILLIONS OF SO-CALLED EUROPEANS.

  • OK. Part one. No evidence. Part two? Attack opponents. NO evidence for the hypothesis......later!

  • The lie is being exposed! My white history teacher told me it was all a game... I thought to my self it might be your game - it's not mine. I now know the truth and they are now losing ground these white his-story-ians. They are now more interest in truth to the fear of these eurocentric upstarts: the lies are expose! Run back to your caves oh great white liars... White is not pure - it's inherently evil and their history can test to that.

  • @TheKemian - I had a similar experience in college. I debated my philosophy teacher on the greeks and Black Egypt. He tried to put up a vigorous fight. Then after class he came to me and said I know you're right but i have a curriculum to teach... Aint DIS some some bullshit...

  • Information is information!Whether it be considered bias or not!To not,, take into consideration,any knowing is to be blind deliberately!I may not agree with all history but "it is a right" to seek it!

  • @goldielocksplanet - yes. and for some of us an obligation.

  • i feel sorry that white people will try to find every excuse to keep their likes upon other people.

  • ALL I CAN HEAR ARE PERSONAL ATTACK AGAINST BERNAL , BUT WHERE ARE THE SCIENTIFIC PROVES ?

  • THIS VIDEO IS SICKEST LIE AGAINST OF GREEKS

    ALL EUROPIANS TRIES DESTROYS THE GREEK RACE WITH MANY PROPAGANDIST THEORIES THE TRUTH IS HOW THE GREEKS WAS AND ARE WHITES

  • if you want to kno the true look up dr ben on you utube and he will say the say thing but he will brake it down !!!!!!

  • "poor old africans"???

    We don't need to be given a part (LOL), cause we have always been here.

    

  • Why haven't they spoke with Dr. Yosel Ben-Jochannan from Cornell?

  • @mumbleora They do that always. They leave the black research out. Maybe they feel it is more inclined to be bias. But Dr. Ben, Dr. Clark and Dr. Diop bring out the most EVIDENCE dealing with these subjects.

  • @OfSunFlowers dont forget ivan van Sertima and chancelor williams among others

  • @mumbleora HE WOULD TELL THEM THE SAME THAN PROVIDE THEM WITH THE PROOF.....THEY CLAIM THAT KEMET WAS WHITE...BUT KEMET BEFORE GREECE...SO THAT MAKES KEMET THE FIRST WHITE CIVILIZATION...NOT GREECE...THEY CANT HAVE IT BOTH.......THEY WELL DRESS LIES HAVE BEEN UNDRESS BY THE NAKED TRUTH

  • I am an African, my world view SHOULD be African centered. Europeans SHOULD have a Euro-centered world view. I aint mad at yall. Do you!

  • bernal because you are unfamiliar with the story goes to wash dish and let a couple to deal with the history of those who hold the best.

  • I'll bet this fucking CUNT "Professor" Martin Bernal is a fucking JEW , without even doing any research on the trouble making LIAR I will name him a fucking JEW cunt and being a fucking JEW he naturally HATES Europeans and is part of a larger effort to marginalize Europeans and eventually through all their mass murdering ways , to destroy us !

  • @WhereEaglesDareWWII - Damn. could it possibly be that Bernal is only presenting History as IS rather than the manipulated version? Is is possible that blacks are not what history paints.. a bunch of useless earters that sre good for nothing. Could it be possible that he's exposing something here that has been surpressed for generations?

  • @Melanatedone

    The criticisms of Bernal's book aren't that he disagrees with other scholars, it's that his work is not academically sound. The fact that you like his "theories" is not evidence of their being factual.

    If you wanted to make some cash and a name for yourself, could there be a better route than to play off the insecurities of negroes? You sell the books, and if anyone challenges you then you can call him a racist.

  • @Gulfporter - Seriously is that how it truly works? So this idea belongs to Martin Bernal and Bernal alone. He came to his conclusion without any reference. No other scholar has argued this before countless of times before. Diop, Clarke, G. W. Parker to mention a few. You have nothing more to say that my ear wishes to hear. Hold onto the reality that serves you best - when this farce comes crashing down around you, hang on for dear life. I'll stick to conversing with my equals.

  • @Melanatedone

    One can only imagine your equals. Clarke is thoroughly discredited by Lefkowitz. Clarke's "work" is ridiculous, citing Rogers, Shakespeare, and Ripley's Believe it or Not, selectively and badly. Come on, get serious. When your sources can so easily be undone, is it not evidence of how desperate you are to believe a well meaning lie? That's what's going to come crashing down. You are the one invested in a lie, tying your self esteem to men who lie.

  • @Gulfporter - Lefkowitz, truly, didn't see that coming 300 miles away. Apparently Lefkowitz seems to think she knows better than the historians of a particular period. Even with HLA genomics showing you the chain of Greek origins, doesn't mean much...

    Hold on to your Lefkowitz campaign. It one cornerstone from Egypt was founded by Europeans. Trust me, I understand the effort, nevertheless, this house of cards is unstable and your imagination will be the only place you'll know my equals.

  • @Melanatedone

    See, that's why you're really just an argumentative child. Lefkowitz doesn't maintain that Egypt was founded by Europeans. Virtually no one claims Egypt was founded by Europeans. And again, if you had read the book you would know that. Afrocentrism is the house of cards, because it has black people being told pure bullshit by people whose credentials ought to mean something. So blacks are betrayed by the Afrocentrists who are setting them up to be fools.

  • @Gulfporter - Again, point messed. If I may quote Lefkowitz, "...what is being offered as African history is really European myths". She clearly states that Herodotus (Greek Historian) made the direct correlation between Greece and Egypt, (pause... a historian AT that particular time), yet stumbles all over her foot to claim that, "ah well, he didn't really know what he was speaking about because he didn't understand the full depth of Egyptian culture. SERIOUSLY!! I've read enough from you.

  • @Melanatedone

    It's impossible to respond to your post because it's disjoint in your attempt to paraphrase or deceive. If you will do a google search for " "Was Greek Culture Stolen from Africa?" " then you will see a wellesley. edu site which will give you a working summary of the book. It will however be completely worthless to you if you are no more capable of objective approach than you have demonstrated here.

  • @Gulfporter Yawn! The testimony of all eyewitnesses is enough for me. The Greeks and the Egyptians have both defined their relationship to each other. Let the records speak for itself. I have nothing to prove to you. Calling me Burrhead, lol. At least I don't smell like a dog when I get wet. The only thing the Caucasian added to Greek civilization was homosexuality and pederasty.

  • @afrominer123

    " The testimony of all eyewitnesses is enough for me. The Greeks and the Egyptians have both defined their relationship to each other."

    Now you are really showing your ignorance. Not that anyone is surprised.

  • @Gulfporter If they didn't get it from the Egyptians, where did they get it from. Why did the Ptolomies copy everything Egypt? No superior culture would imitate an inferior one. Why were Greek Philosophers persecuted for teaching foreign ideas in Greece if these ideas originated in Greece, fool. Where did they learn the things they were teaching because there were no schools in Greece that taught those things. Thales(625 BC) This was long past the pyramid age. No way Greece is equal to Kemet

  • @Gulfporter Did I lie? If I sound ignorant its only because I am referencing ignorant ass crakkkas

  • @afrominer123

    The nigger routine really gets old.

  • @Gulfporter The Sun loves my skin. You are a genetic recessive. Crakkkas start getting bold in the fall, but when the sun comes back out, Back to your caves. Did I mention that the European Birth rate is irreversibly low, plus there are shortages in sperm banks all over Europe. Can you think of another branch of the Human family that needs "Sperm Banks," LMAO! I guess nature must think the Crakkka routine is getting old.

  • @afrominer123

    " I guess nature must think the Crakkka routine is getting old."

    You really are an idiot. The birth rate in Europe is deliberate and has nothing to do with sperm banks.

  • @Gulfporter LMAO you are a liar and your words are not worth the skin you are in. If the birth rate was deliberate, why would they need sperm banks, why would they complain about a shortage if there was not a demand. I have here in my hands a book called Death of the West by Pat Buchanan and it documents the incentives European countries offer white people to have babies. You need to read a book fool! Have you never heard of positive Eugenics. You are one dumb ass crakkka! LOL

  • @afrominer123

    Fertility Rate is a statistical term for the number of children produced per female. It has nothing to do with the ability to have children. All female populations have the propensity to bear children. The European women are choosing to have fewer children, which is driving the birth rate down. It has nothing to do with their ability to have children. They don't breed like the rodents in Africa.

    The sperm banks are completely unrelated to the Fertility Rate.

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  • @Gulfporter LMAO! Keep telling yourself that, .Damn Fool! So what you are saying is Europeans are willingly committing Race suicide. Thank You! But, that just makes crakkkas seem more dumb. Maybe its because white men spend more time playing in each others ass. Funny you should mention rodents because I hear white people like to stick gerbils up their asses. So what you are saying is you don't mate LIKE rodents, You only try to mate WITH them, LOL. Nasty bastards.

  • @Gulfporter Coke kingpin Douglas Spink busted for running bestiality farm in Washington state. Dozens of dogs, horses and pet mice were seized, along with what investigators described as thousands of images of bestiality and apparent child pornography. The mice were euthanized, said Whatcom County Sheriff Bill Elfo.

    Do you think a race of degenerate ass crakkkas could have had anything at all to do with the genesis of civilization. Damn Fool!

  • @Gulfporter The genetic code of Neanderthal Man has revealed that Homo sapiens mated with our closest evolutionary relatives soon after migrating out of Africa, leaving traces that can still be detected in human DNA.

    A comparison of the genomes of the two human species has shown that between 1 and 4 per cent of the DNA of modern non-Africans has a Neanderthal origin, while no Neanderthal genes can be detected in Africans today

    I am Man. You are Mankind or kind of a man. I am Hue-man your not.

  • @afrominer123

    Oh my God! I'm not a nigger! I'm not a member of the most universally worthless race on the planet!

  • @Gulfporter You are Part Neanderthal. Plus the Sun don't like you!

  • @Gulfporter... YOUR ANCESTOR CHARLES DARWIN WAS ON POINT pimpin , WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS A FEDERAL OFFENCE TO SHAVE CHIMPANZEE , BECAUSE THEY ARE WHITE pimp.....LORD ASAR HERU ASAR !!

  • @Gulfporter - paraphrase... an assertion that only suites your goal... if you needed a source to show you it came RIGHT OUT OF HERE MOUTH then all you had to do was ask. I could direct you to the video with her saying EXACTLY what I quoted from her, but none the less, the assertion of me chopping it up and misdirecting only helps your cause. I am almost at my point here. Transparently Amazing! Objective approach - seriously? Even the Greeks gave credit where it was due... You're a joke.

  • @Gulfporter - I am sure that's what you see here... As I've stated before, you're a waste of time. This will become nothing more than a redundant debate between the Lefkowitz and Bernal Camp. Damn Homer, damn Herodotus, damn Iamblichus or Thales of Milete, damn Plato and Pythagoras. What they had to say about Egypt means nothing compared to what Gulfporter is peddling. Know why, he knows better. Hold onto that reality clown. " not academically sound" - which term, Formalistic or conventional?

  • @Melanatedone

    Except that it's not "Damn Homer, Herodotus, etc...." it's not what they wrote but who is selectively and wishfully quoting them. That's what LEfkowitz points out in her book and there simply isn't the space here to give you a blow by blow. She very fairly goes through what Rogers, Diop, Bernal, et all have done.

  • @Gulfporter - Their is Lefkowitz side, Bernal's side and then there is the truth. I'll leave it at that. This discussion has already taken place a million times over. After the return from my trip abroad with new first hand information, I'll then proceed.

  • @Melanatedone

    Here is the primary method difference: an Afrocentrist says, "We don't know who Cleopatra's grandmother was, so because she could have been black, then we'll assume that she was." Lefkowitz doesn't say, "Cleopatra could not have been part black." she says, "It would have been out of character for her culture for grandmother to have been other than Greek, and there is no evidence that she was. Moreover, other exceptions were noted by contemporaries so we would expect the same. "

  • @Gulfporter Lefkowitz Discredited Clarke, LOl. You are truly a fool. Baba Clarke crushed that bitch! She only discredited him in the minds of those who he had no credit with in the first place i.e. Eorocentric academics who are trying to hold on to their racist world view.

  • @Gulfporter Africa does not need Greece to have a cultural heritage, they have a rich cultural heritage. Egypt is just one part of it-Mary Lefkowitz. Now if Egypt predated Greece by thousands of years, And the Greeks themselves credit the Egyptians with introducing them to civilization, you have no basis for an argument, unless you just want to argue. If thats the case nothing I can present as evidence will convince you of how foolish you sound.

  • @afrominer123

    "Africa does not need Greece to have a cultural heritage"

    Who said that it did? Howbeit that a complete history of either can't be told without the other.

    " Now if Egypt predated Greece by thousands of years,"

    It didn't. You're taking a very narrow and selective look at the world and civilization. It doesn't start at point A and stop at point B .

    "And the Greeks themselves credit the Egyptians with introducing them to civilization"

    No, they don't. That would be absurd.

  • @Gulfporter The Greeks did credit not only Egypt but Ethiopia as well with instituting the worship of the Gods, they taught the GTreeks science and mathematics. Sumer was another civilization started by the people of Africa. So if they got it from the Sumerians it still came from Africa by way of the African peoples in Sumer.

  • @afrominer123

    Civilization does not begin with science and mathematics.

  • @Gulfporter Civilization began with Agriculture and settlements. How old are the oldest settlements in Greece.

  • @Gulfporter A trip through the ruins of ancient Greece vs. a trip through the ruins of ancient Egypt is like walking through a kindergarten camp, in comparisons to the world's largest university campus-Ra Un Nefer Amen

  • @Gulfporter You say Egyptian civilization did not start before Greece. Name your source, smart guy. LOL. Where are the writings. Thales never wrote a book, Miletus never wrote a book. If so show it. The first example of Greek literature was the Iliad and Odyssey. Oh and we cant forget Ethiops, where the Gods of Greece went to dine with the Blameless Ethiopians. Never mind the fact that Greeks themselves had to make offerings to the gods just to be heard. You sound foolish

  • @afrominer123

    "You say Egyptian civilization did not start before Greece."

    I didn't say that, you have a reading comprehension problem which is more than a little annoying.

    Your claim was "" Now if Egypt predated Greece by thousands of years,"

    And my response was, "It didn't." which means "It didn't predate by thousands of years."

    You have a very two dimensional understanding of things.

  • @Gulfporter . When do you think Greek civilization began? Cite your source. Don't just print it. Who was the first ruler of Greece fool!(smile)

  • @Gulfporter Even the language shows who was the master and the student. The Greek derived their script from the Hebrew/Phoenician and the Phoenicians developed their script from the Egyptian Heratic.

  • @Gulfporter BBC NEWS-The earliest writing ever seen may have been discovered in southern Egypt.

    The find challenges the widely-held belief that the first people to write were the Sumerians of Mesopotamia (modern-day Iraq) sometime before 3000 BC.

    The exact date of Sumerian writing remains in doubt but the new Egyptian discoveries have been confidently dated to between 3300 BC and 3200 BC using carbon isotopes.

    You are out of your league son. Afraka is the best, lol.

  • @afrominer123

    LOL- You should have kept on Googling, you would have found that a year later the same source was announcing that the first writing had been found in Pakistan.

    Of course, you, in your charming Afrostupid way, are leaving out the qualifiers, "may" and "might" as well as the academic consideration that in these types of discoveries and such a tight timeframe, we're looking at simultaneous development. Of course, I have little doubt that you will claim Indus to be Negro too. Fool.

  • @Gulfporter "It was thought that Sumerians were earlier in writing than Egypt," said Gunter Dreyer, director of the German Archaeological Institute in Egypt. Call it Afro stupid all you want but I am citing a cave dwelling Crackkka as a source. What brainchild authored the idea that the oldest writings are in Pakistan. Your bluff has been called you don't know shit stupid The BBC was actually CREDITABLE archaeologist as a source. Ha Ha You are showing your stupidity. Argue with him bitch!

  • @afrominer123

    "And the Greeks themselves credit the Egyptians with introducing them to civilization"

    This is not even accurate as a generalization. You appear to be completely ignoring Sumeria and other cultures. Secondly, no academic would use the definition of civilization which you apparently have in your mind. For example, the Indians encountered at Jamestown by the English were in essence Stone Aged people, but they were civilized. Stone Age does not mean without civilization.

  • @Gulfporter No academic would ever say that Egyptian civilization did not predate Greece.

  • the Black Madonna is typically the woman who represents the god-mother, goddess, and queen mother of the earth and of salvation. Theories about the mother’s dark complexion continue to circulate; some claim time or other damaging forces have turned her skin Black. Others affirm she descended from pre-Christian ancient African traditions(Auset and Heru). Kemet was a Matriarchal. Crakkkaz are Patriarchs and have NEVER developed a totemic or Matriarchal society. Sorry dude.

  • @afrominer123 haha blacks never invented there own writing they got it from the Arabs savage monkey boy hehehe so why did you become slaves so why is there no technology like cars or computers made in Africa so why are most blacks so poor so why are you so many starving to death so why did even the Arabs make you slaves so why do blacks have the lowest IQ of all racis so why are some blacks still living in the stone age even now so why are there no great citys like Rome or Paris in Africa

  • @lar5220 Actually alot of whites never had a writing system that was what Julius Caesar stated in his journals when he battled the Celtics and Britons.

  • Art Experts believe the Black Madonna was painted between the 6th and 8th centuries and say the style is reminiscent of Early Egyptians Christians. Many art historians believe that the Madonna is one of the rare black Madonnas still extant. Most of the Madonnas painted IN THE EARLIEST CENTURIES OF CHRISTIANDOM WAS BLACK, according to historians and it wasn't until the renaissance that it became popular to give the mother of Christ the features of a Florentine maiden.

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  • Egyptian dna is mostly Eurasian not black Invader's like Arabs Persians Greeks Nubians Did not influence there DNA that much in the last 5000 years they found less then 10% difference from these people in DNA of modern egypt and old Egypt not enough to make them turn from black to north African cucasion what they are today Who ever told you that does not no what they are talking 

  • @lar5220 yawn!

    

  • @lar5220 European and Eurasian R1b=R-M269/R/M-73/R-L23/U106 is not even found in modern Egyptians. R1b originated in Afraka. You are fat and stupid! To stupid to understand DNA so why even go there. That just makes you a parrot repeating every thing you read off of Eurocentric websites. You said DNA don't lie Liar 5220, but you do. You are a big fat ass phoney. On Youtube giving out your measurements, I don't swing that way you fat faggot bastard

  • @afrominer123 why I'm I still talking to u dumb savage how don't no understand DNA hahaha go back to smoking you crack pipe nigger DNA looks nothing like Egyptian DNA asshole

  • @afrominer123 Dud stop making up shit it say the modern Egyptian and the ancient mummies are related and show only 10% difference in DNA in 5000 years so that means the old Egyptian look Just like the modern ones that means there not black asshole hahaha all the art and statues look just like modern day Egyptian asshole do you see any statue of fucken Afro Brillo head mother fucker over there no only the Nubians are show like that idiot there to different racis 

  • @lar5220 I dare you to Googl Queen Tiye and tell me she was an Arab, then google her husband Amenhotep III which was King Tuts grand mother and father. Scroll down and look at the paintings on the wall and tell me they are not Nubian people. Then Google Mentuhotep and Ahmose Nefertari. Not all afrakans are coal black stupid the closer you get to the equater the darker you become stupid. When your done Google Glogers law. Your Eurocentric DNA crap is week , you better get up on some real science

  • @lar5220 I didn't make up anything. Go investigate what I sent. Google it bitch. The Afrakan RB1 is older than the Euro. it only make sense, you are our defected offspring. and dont forget to Google Queen Tiye and check out her Black Power fro. You don't know anything about Kemet. your only interest is in trying to prove that the Kemetu were not Afrakans. Kemet is culturally and linguistically linked to Afraka. There is nothing White or Arab about it.. You keep repeating that same weak line

  • @afrominer123 Ok black Nazi what ever you say fucken dumb ass Greeks are black s but the old Greeks the say were all faggats so you most be one to so Now we no why u want to be Greek so bad hahaha faggat

  • @lar5220 The Macedonians were the faggots

  • @afrominer123 You fucken retard DNA that all Europeans have from Africa got there in prehistory 80000 way before any civilation moron We evolved from u which makes you more primitive hahaha you said it not me lol

  • @lar5220 There was no white people 80000 years ago. The marker for white skin appeared no earlier than 12000 years ago but probably as recent as 6000 years. By that time civilization had already been established

  • @lar5220 You should do more homework. I know that you will never admit your inferior status, and you shouldn't. So my discourse with you ends here. I have better things to do with my time than to read your dumb ass come backs. Now I see you are starting to recycle the same old shit .

    People lie, numbers don't. If you are the step up in evolution, why are you not thriving as a species(0 population growth) and why do your people fuck dogs, horses, etc. White supremacy is a lie

  • @afrominer123 You just a dumb savage with a big mouth hahaha where are you great cathedrals and castle In Africa hahaha there are none Lol you would have nothing but you dick and spear in your hands if it was not for the whites hahahaha you have invented all most nothing not even the wheel hehehe 

  • @lar5220 Ask your self why didn't civilization evolve amongst the the iciest icemen in Europe like The Scandinavians, or the Germans, or the British even. Why in the parts of Europe that were in close proximity to Afraka, by people who were nothing but by products of interbreeding. "HLA genomics shows that: 1) Greeks share an important part of their genetic pool with sub-Saharan Africans (Ethiopians and West Africans) also supported by Chr 7 Markers.

  • @afrominer123 No never hard of stoneheng asshole

  • @lar5220 The first Europeans were Afrakan stupid. There are no white Megalithic builders. St. Patrick was said to have been sainted for chasing the snakes out of Ireland, but really it was the snake people because they wore the same Egyptian style Uraeus, just like the priest in ancient Mexico. There were never any snakes in Ireland, because of the ice age. The Romans took the written word(Latin) to the rest of white Europe and it evolved into French, Italian, English, etc. Stupid

  • @afrominer123 If the first European were black African then why don't you have neadrathal DNA like all cucasion north Africans Europeans and Asians have hahaha you so full of shit Niggers never left the jungles of souther Africa hahaha

  • @afrominer123 Why are u blacks so backwards if you are related to Greeks and Egyptians hahaha because your not that's why hahahaha

  • @lar5220 The Alphabet comes from the Greek alpha/beta/gamma, which came from the Hebrew aleph/beth/gimmel. The Hebrew copied the Black Phoenician/Canaanite alphabet, who copied the 22 characters for their alphabet from the Kemetic Hieratic. White people never developed their own writing and they were never megalithic builders. There is not one example of Totem practice amongst crakkkas or Arabs, So how could they be Egyptian, dummy.

  • @lar5220 Greeks clearly related to Africans on some DNA markers according to 3 recent DNA studies.

    "A more likely explanation is that some time during Egyptian pharaonic times a Black dynasty with their followers were expelled and went towards Greece . Indeed, ancient Greeks believed that their religion and culture came from Egypt (37, 38). Also, Herodotus (37)states that the daughters of Danaus (who were black) came from Egypt in great numbers to establish a presence in Greece

  • @afrominer123 are you going to stop bullshitty here let's clear this up for you niggers stupid Greeks smart end of story and Greeks basical have same DNA as any other white more or less there is 0 new DNA from African in them asshole And Greek gods are white and have nothing to do with blacks

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    Oh great, another mouthy burrhead on You Tube.

  • With the white mans birth rate at irreversible lows, It seems he should be more concerned about his future instead of the past. The lesson you should learn from the past is rampant homosexuality among the Greek and the Romans led to a decline in birth rates that eventually destroyed their civilizations. You cant make babies fucking in the ass! What are cars and guns without drivers and shooters. This is simple math especially for the superior white man. LOL

  • Left writers have been reporting for years that U.S. allies Rwanda and Uganda bear primary responsibility for the deaths of as many as six million Congolese. Now a leaked United Nations report has confirmed that Rwanda’s crimes in Congo may rise to the level of genocide, since President Paul Kagame’s forces killed Hutu elderly, children and women without regard to nationality. Rwandan President Paul Kagame’s “mentors and funders in the U.S. government…must be held equally accountable.”

  • @afrominer123 That's all bullshit but let's face It the USA would do a better job then those black Africans do of running there own countries there a bunch of savages over there for most part lol

  • @lar5220 I was in your shoes, everything I had to say would be bullshit. You haven't said anything to surprise me yet. Of course you are going to say that Afrakans are savages. I expect nothing less from you. Projection is a psychological term that describes how people who feel a particular way about themselves project it on to other people they envy i.e. black skin is inferior or black people are savages. White skin is a genetic recessive trait called albinism. So white skin is inferior.

  • @afrominer123 Bla bla bla not all blacks are savages just the ones that come on here trying to change and steal other peoples history fuck off your history Is in west Africa savage the Congo you no that place were you go around killing raping and eating each other those are your people other tribes in Africa are not related to you cut the bullshit

  • @lar5220 Name the tribes that existed in Afraka before the Arab or the white man, and then tell me which one I belong to. You can't because tribes did not exist. Read a book. I can debate facts, not rhetoric. Give me some places and dates. I don't care how you feel, You are a crakkka you are supposed to hate me, I don't blame you for that. What I do blame you for is being information poor. You are stupid because you choose to be. If you were so superior to me so should your information

  • @afrominer123 Blacks made up 41 percent of the nation’s 2 million prison and jail inmates in 2006 this show more proof your savage behavior is genetic

  • @lar5220 This is only proof of the savage treatment of the Black man by white men. Most are in Jail because of drug related offenses. Oliver North(a white man) bought drugs in to Amerikkka and put them in black neighborhoods on purpose. Black people don't own boats, how do drugs get into Amerikkka. You are sounding more and more stupid as this goes no, save yourself the embarrassment. Or maybe your superior intelligence is just to far above my little black brain, LMAO

  • @lar5220 Sad thing is Black Athena was written by a WHITE MAN, yet you accuse me of trying to steal the history of others. Martin Bernal seems to be giving it to us. Just like Herodotus, Diodorus Sicilus, Aristotle, Volney, Champolion, Petrie, etc all acknowledge the blackness of the skin and the woolly hair of the Egyptian. Your rhetoric is meaningless and it only serves to prove the falsehood of the white superiority myth. Go fuck your dog!

  • @afrominer123 black athena some asshole trying to sell a book to dumb blacks hahahahahah

  • @lar5220 In ancient Greece the God of love was a baby boy named cupid(pederasty) that same baby boy became the little baby angels in Roman Catholic art. Europeans institutionalized fucking little boys. Show me where this was practiced for thousands of years by Afrakans. You can't! You are a low life mutation of the original. Albinism is a genetic skin defect. There is no difference, microscopically , between the skin of a crakkka and the skin of an albino

  • @afrominer123 notice the baby was white like all greeks and there gods to asshole

  • @lar5220 liten to you! true to European form, If I mention little white baby boys the first thing that comes to your mind is ASSHOLE, faggot

  • @afrominer123 you fucks eat and fuck babys and monkeys LOL in africa for there jewjew LOL

  • @lar5220 Why did Afrikans view the European as a child of God, but the Europeans viewed the Afrikan as a soulless savage? Because of "melatonin," described as a mentally and morally stimulating hormone produced by the pineal gland. According to scientific research, most whites are unable produce much of this hormone because their pineal glands are often calcified and non-functioning The pineal calcification rates with Afrikans is 5-15%; Asians 15-25%; Europeans 60-80%!

  • @afrominer123 even the arabs or much more advanced then you blacks they were inslaving you blacks way before whites were hahaha

  • @lar5220 "When we talk about cultural differences, some black scholars have raised the question that the European approach, that of the logical, erect, rigid, anti-feeling posture, reflects a left brain orientation and reflects that they lack the chemical key [melatonin] to turn on their unconscious and therefore cannot get into feelings..."- Dr. Richard King. Carol Barnes writes "Melanin is responsible for the existence of civilization, philosophy, religion, truth, justice, and righteousness

  • @lar5220 Individuals (whites) containing low levels of Melanin will behave in a barbaric manner." Melanin gives humans the ability to FEEL because it is the absorber of all frequencies of energy. Since whites have the least amount of Melanin, this is why they are perceived by People of Color as generally being rigid, unfeeling (heartless), cold, calculating, mental, and "unspiritual." Their historical behavior towards nonwhites often confirms this.

  • @afrominer123 No stupid whites have been here for over 35000 years the no this from DNA and bones that they have found in Europe

  • @afrominer123 There are 2 billion Asian there white to and they don't want you around them ether hehehehe poor blacky hehehe

  • @lar5220 You are trying to claim everybody but at the end of the day, Crakkkas don't like Asians either. Asians are not white. Its called white supremacy for a reason. Today you claim to like Asians, tomorrow you will call them chinks and gooks. White supremacy means crakkkaz think they are better than all non crakkkas. The Chinese people and the Indians both produce Melanin, they are not white. Afrakans called Dravidians were the first Indians and Afrakans were the first Chinese

  • @lar5220 The Asians produce melanin because of their Afrakan ancestors. Based on anthropological evidence many specialists believe that the modern Negrito(Twa)represent the first modern human group to arrive in the Southeast Asia. In Cambodia you find Ankhor Wat. which means the God Horus lives in ancient Egyptian. Buddha(Buto) was a black man and Krishna means black. We colonized this planet, even the Americas before a crakkka had shoes. Columbus mentions Afrakans in Amerikkka in his diary