Alice Cooper - Under My Wheels (Old Grey Whistle Test)

[leonakita]

ewwww @ that gay outfit featuring pube hair

[Violet2r1]

i kinda didnt jump from the civic center again on my birthday march 1 1972

[666cliffy]

jeeese ..... just enjoy the acb were the best ... agree with spanishcastles56 give us back our dollars but with just a little more lipstick on it ... wish i came from detroit ... cliffy uk x

[GohModley]

Paul Stanley is wearing Alice's jumpsuit on the cover of Destroyer.

[Accordioman]

This is the studio recording MINUS the horns and the vocals. Alice is doing the vocals Karaoke style. The band are miming. The horns actually obscured Glen's solo on the record. We can actually hear Glens amazing solo now!

[DJDeepStrut77]

It was common to have the performers sing live (or sing along) to a music bed track.

[LuneyTune72]

In case anyone wants to know: I've uploaded all of the outtakes from this performance.

[Sinca22]

Yesssss



[stevencrayn]

School's Out on Top Of The Pops has a live vocal but a backing track as when miming was banned on that show and some bands weren't up to scratch the musicians union agreed bands could mine providing they were in the studio and had played on the song

[stevencrayn]

interestingly those 2 fills didn't appear on the album so a slightly different backing track was used with not just the horn section missing but with those fills included which must have been recorded at the original Killer session or played on the day on OGWT but if we assume the whole thing apart from the vocal is mimed for the reason as with School's Out to do with Musician Union rules that backing tracks could only be used if the musicians who played on it were present hence no horn section

[stevencrayn]

YES THERE ARE!

you need to listen again, there are 2 guitar licks just before the solo starting at 1.06 and ending at 1.12 these are not on the recording that appeared on Killer and are a different style and sound to Rick Derringer's solo that Glen mines to on OGWT but those 2 licks before the solo are played by Glen Buxton

[LuneyTune72]

Ooh, those 2 fills, you're right. Reasons for change 1) There are no trumpets in the track (as you mentioned earlier) because there are no trumpeters with the band, so it would be confusing to the people at home 2) The fills are part of the backing track, I know this because I just checked another outtake where the band mimes the whole song, and the fills exist in that video as well. Any questions?

[stevencrayn]

the other take where they stop doesn't explain why on the take that went out on OGWT there are extra guitar fills which are played by Glen Buxton just before Rick Derringer's solo that weren't on the studio version.

[LuneyTune72]

@stevencrayn There are no extra riffs. Name the time that you are talking about. The only difference is that you can hear the guitar solo in this track.

[stevencrayn]

there are extra guitar fills not on the studio version just before the Rick Derringer's solo that were played by Glen so the backing track isn't identical as there is also no horn section

[DARRINCONNOR1]

I knew the vocal's were Live.But at first I thought it was the studio version music.Man they are awesome here.Listen to G.B. holy shit.This is 100% live,correct.I didn't here the horn section, so i'm pretty sure it's all live

[EvoVocalChick]

Neal has pretty hair :D lol

[oLdSkOoLkisS]

OMG...could the jumpsuit get any lower?! He sure was freaky back in his booze days!!

[61SG]

Rick Derringer played the solo on this...

[DARRINCONNOR1]

@61SG I'm still confused, the vocal's are obviously Live.The guitar solo sounded identical to the studio version.So is this 100% live.Is there a backing track behind the live performance.Can't tell if I hear the horn section or not.Sometimes i can hear it sometimes I can't.Don't see any drum cover's over Neal's kit

[LuneyTune72]

@DARRINCONNOR1 It was live but the instruments were possibly overdubbed. I do have all the outtakes of this and they do have to stop playing (Alice sometimes continues singing or improvising.)

[DARRINCONNOR1]

@LuneyTune72 Yeah,I think your right.Thanx

[Oldnewbie50]

@DARRINCONNOR1 Alice is singing but everything else is the studio track. That is how most TV live appearances were done back then due to the limitations of TV studio sound equipment. It's still done today, in fact!

[valerock667]

"tonight the lettah is C, foh Coopah"

[spanishcastles56]

Luney Tune, I saw the Billion Dollar Babies show at Cleveland Music Hall in 1973, which was my last AC concert because I couldnt stand the hype (including the dancing tooth). Then he dumped the band and added his own musicians, at which time I vowed never to see them again. I was aghast when he brought Kip Winger onboard and knew that it was time to turn my back completely on Alice. You are right; the dancing tooth was originally Neal's sister but I thought Cheryl did as well.

[spanishcastles56]

This band was not only kick-ass extraordinary, they were also gorgeous!!! Saw them numerous times in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, and only stopped when Alice dumped his bandmates and took the name for himself...then added Kip Winger and the Dancing TOOTH to his concert repertoire!! KIP WINGER?? PLEASE!! If you want to see the REAL band at their creative best, check out the live version of "Black Juju" on Youtube...EXCELLENT!!! Alice..PUT THE BAND BACK TOGETHER & TOUR WITH THEM ONE MORE TIME!!!

[LuneyTune72]

@spanishcastles56 The dancing tooth was used on the Billion Dollar Babies Tour in 1973 (with the original Alice Cooper Group) not with Kip Winger. Neal Smith's sister/Dennis Dunaway's wife, Cindy Smith, played the dancing tooth.

[frederickus]

@spanishcastles56 You must realize that Alice (Vincent Fornier) is a rught wing xtian rupugnantcan!!! Anything for a buck!!!

[jercoolman]

@spanishcastles56

Alice did not dumped the band , the band got tried of Alice doing theatrics with the songs.

[techslam]

....love me some Alice......

[151badfish]

Wow, it's like some kind of death/glam stuff, circa 1971. I like the total hippy drummer all hunched over his drum set.

[saclrpfrl10]

Telephone is ringin'!!!!!!

[fleetwoodmac1982]

it's a shame to have cut off this video at 2:41 because the controversial performance took place soon after that point!

[sasumekyoto34]

@fleetwoodmac1982 Which was...?

[Darkangelrock92]

This song is way underrated, i think its gotta a groovy twist on it and i like it and i adore Alice Cooper <3

[lawomond]

Damn you Alice Cooper. Your the reason I left school with no qualifications.

[123Scears123]

@lawomond Me too!

[gnostictray]

i remember getting alice Cooper on 8Track back in the 70s...

[5150mick]

makes everything else sound and look dated.and the stones had just released sticky fingers !

[SillyLoveSongBeatles]

hell!! incredibleee!!

[sonicsteev]

i think i know what song means now haha

[MissEgasMoniz]

Okay - not a scam, but still miming to a pre-recorded live track (supposedly).

[MissEgasMoniz]

The band was called 'Alice Cooper' - before Vincent took name for himself. You would think the brains at OGWT beyond such a mistake - but No! Is it live or is it a scam?

[LuneyTune72]

@MissEgasMoniz Well they were actually correct, they said "the piece, or the composer, or the performer" the band being the performer, therefore Alice Cooper is correct (I would prefer Alice Cooper Group). Also, Alice was often called Alice Cooper by the press, radio, news, etc. People didn't know him as Vincent Furnier. Nobody really called him "Vince," except family (mother, father, and sister).

[kurtizzyflush]

@MissEgasMoniz ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ zzzzzzzZZZZ...................­zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[MissEgasMoniz]

@kurtizzyflush If you don't like Alice Cooper thats ok - waddle along spud.

[kurtizzyflush]

@MissEgasMoniz Uh hey dumbass! You're the one putting me to sleep not Alice.

[slamoslut]

@MissEgasMoniz whatnigga's b bitcinabout?

[MissEgasMoniz]

@slamoslut Try again spud.

[Heavymetalpunker92x]

Alice Cooper the king of Shock Rock

Long live the king!!

[sonicavenga]

This was the first ever episode of the OGWT....

[LuneyTune72]

@sonicavenga Really? Awesome fact if that's true.

[sonicavenga]

@LuneyTune72 Yep, definitely true. That clip was at the very start of a BBC about the OGWT a few years back.

[GregTuco]

I'll say it again Alice Cooper had one hell of a musical machine behind his little act.

[JacobSmithUK]

is this the same place were they did the other under my weels live

[LuneyTune72]

@JacobSmithUK I think you're talking about the Beat Club (other live version).

[aerowayne1]

I vote for Luney Tune72 He the man and if not , go ask ALICE

[bearman52]

This video is great, but can someone please post the original, with the kick-ass horn section. How about it sqwbussy ?

[bearman52]

This version is fantastic , but can somebody please post the studio version, with the kick-ass horn section. How about it , sqwbussy.

[spudnutsncoffee]

In the studio version there is a horn section, and there is not one here as far as I can see. So, this appears to be a live performance, and a very good one at that.

[colourkim]

It is from the seventies. If they used some xtra footage and mixed it with the original take doesn´t make it less live!

[colourkim]

It is LIVE and it is well performed. If you are not able to see and hear that then you do not have a lot of experience in syncing audio and video.

[LuneyTune72]

@colourkim Sorry man but it's not. I have all of the outtakes, this version is a combination of different clips from outtakes. The audio is not the album track obviously but they used a recording of them from one of the outtakes (an outtake that featured them playing the whole song) and dubbed it over the final footage.

[musicmann1967]

@LuneyTune72 maybe they did like the bbc used to do.. The artist would record a live version prior to the show and lip sync to that. I think had something to do with musicians unions or something..

[musicmann1967]

@LuneyTune72 Oh yeah, and the lead vocals actually would be live..

[spudnutsncoffee]

@colourkim You are totally right. This is live all the way. Damn good to, especially when considering that Alice had such a problem with alcohol at this time, and for many years thereafter.

[NuclearHendrix]

@spudnutsncoffee This ain't live. The main give away is the guitar solo. Glen couldn't play it. Just go watch a real live version for proof.

[123Scears123]

@NuclearHendrix The drumming is no great shakes either!  :-/

[DAVWAVE]

@colourkim Notice how his shirt is totally unzipped, then zipped all the way up, then unzipped. Alice Cooper was great live, don;t worry about it. And many times lead singers would sing over there, lip syncing, so it can be hard to tell.

[Zenutheduck]

@colourkim - yes this is all done to playback except for Alice's vocals. Glen couldn't play a guitar solo like that (in fact it was Rick Derringer who did the solo on the album.)

[colourkim]

@Zenutheduck Thanks for clearing the confusion - love your comment Zenu!

[saguaroboy]

@Zenutheduck In defense of Buxton: Our band opened for his in Phoenix in the early 80's. He had a crappy Jaguar and a practice amp put through the PA. His band played all the Coop songs with the requisite riffs. He smoked all our weed, snorted all our coke, drank like a fish and KILLED! As soon as the notes for 18 popped out, you knew you were listening to the original. RIP

[honestmango]

@colourkim - lol. I'm assuming you've been corrected to your satisfaction, but if you still think this is live, have your hearing checked mate!

[121126]

mr r and r hall of fame this band deserves a long look,to my ears they should be in hands down or a halo flies swarms the masses

[lostaglio6666]

i wonder how many beers he drank that day

[skillzz95]

this song is amazing. its one of my favorite alice cooper songs

[guitarnashelter]

desperado was my fave,jim morrison was god

[Beetlehair]

Only the original Alice Cooper Band for me, before Vincent legally changed his name to Alice Cooper. The band were originally called the Spiders and later the Nazz, but Todd Rundgren had already taken the name for his band, so they again changed their name, this time to Alice Cooper (circa '68/'69).

[SpikeMichaels]

Yeah, not a lot of people know that, it was Alice Cooper with lead singer Vince Furnier...who later changed his name to Alice Cooper

[thegirl44]

@Beetlehair

The original Alice Cooper band was the tightest group of players in the rock genre when they started out.

No way young Mr. Furnier could have got up on stage in THAT unitard if he didn't have those talented men playing like motherfuckers to his left and right.

[tobbelobbe666]

@thegirl44 Amen, brother. the AC Group was the true Alice Cooper.

[AristYdes]

id give everything to have one inch of the drummers hair he

RACKNRAWL!!!

[rastlr]

Glen Buxton was the BEST

[JacobSmithUK]

yer your right

[infinitidal]

Great band!! the original lineup was by FAR the best ... legends.

[uberpedant]

I remember singing 'Schools Out' as I walked home from school when the summer holidays started (2nd Year Seniors) oh how old do I feel now!

[Heavymetalpunker92x]

telephone is ringing i love that line and the song is awsome:)

[Schrittwieser]

Wow reminds me of my adolesence. Saw him on LI 1971.

[radcam69]

I was having a bad day till is saw this. WHOOHOO!

[andaloudog]

Too bad - live voice, recorded track. I remember seeing them around this time and they could pull it off...

[Spiderwebsider]

Shit man I haven't heard this in over thirty five years. I'd forgotten how good it was.

I bought this when I was 11 back in 71.

Alice & the band sure could rock.

[jimmyp73]

too bad alice didnt keep this band

[smythesewn]

o g w t nov 1971

[ysbaddaden2003]

This should put to rest for ever any idea that David Bowie or Gary Glitter invented Glitter Rock.

[dullsvillain]

It was so good being 10 years old and into Alice!

[LORDHATE76]

He still has it he invented it so he holds the crown.

[MrSteveew]

WOW

[astonsfan]

one of the BEST BANDS ever!!!! i mean they( the band)could play and the ALICE could sing and write some of the best lyrics ever !!

[VanSpeedwagon]

Let's have a vote...Who thinks this is "video overdub" over a studio-recorded audio track?

If you don't know what I mean, please refrain from commenting...

[LuneyTune72]

Well actually this was recorded live. I don't know if the final cut was dubbed but I have the outtakes for this and Alice and the band are actually playing cus they have to stop to do another take every so often. It's proven in one outtake cus they come to an immediate stop after which Alice whispers some song on the mic.

[VanSpeedwagon]

This was overdubbed for sure...You can see the drummer hit the cymbals and you don't hear them, etc...

[LuneyTune72]

You are right it is dubbed because all my outtakes are actually the different camera angles before it was pieced together. So they must have removed the live audio and replaced it with studio.

[VanSpeedwagon]

Right...And, I would hate for people to think that I don't like the song...I do.

I just get a bad taste in my mouth when bands pantomime like this. And it wasn't the band's choice, I'm sure. I blame the superficiality of the music industry.

[ChevKen]

"Agrees"

[28if]

This is video over a live track overdub British union law, have to record live, so they would record earlier in the day and then lip synch to it for the filmed performance. Same with the Beatles Revolution, Find the video where you can hear/see John and George add "Shooby Doo Wop" in the backing vocals. There are only a few you tubes that have the actual performance synch vs. the single overlay

[VanSpeedwagon]

That's what I had thought...Thank you for this info!

[jakestooge34]

This was sort of BBC's answer to "The Midnight Special".

[rrrasmus]

This is the REAL Alice Cooper. A damn great band!

[malondo7]

I'm glad to see this particular performance back on You Tube..its my favorite...and how i remember Alice best in the early glory..just simple glitz..

[CrawlingKingSnakeJM]

my favorite alice song

[Skulldini]

He kinda resembles Mona Lisa in this video.

[supportsouthernrock1]

I just saw him live on thursday night. It was the most amazing show ive ever seen. He died 4 times! (well pretended to) He got his head chopped off in a guillotine (or however you spell that), he got hung, stabbed with a giant seringe while he was singing poison, and got a whole bunch of spikes shoved through him. And it looked so real too, it was amazing! And there was this old geezer sitting right in front of me, and he was just rocking haha it was so funny. Alice is freakin amazing!!

[cripplewoox]

1971 was a sad year for music,as jim morrison of the doors dies on july 3rd,he was a good friend of alice and this album was tributed to him,he would force members of coopers band to drive at insane speeds in the hills above l.a were he would throw himself out that was the type of beast morrison was-rip jimbo

[LuneyTune72]

The album "Killer" wasn't dedicated to Jim, the song "Desperado" on the album was.

[Victor1970s]

Awesome song from Alice Cooper! Ah, yes, another reason why the 1970s was the best decade for rock! 1971 was a great year for music and for AC.

[77REVOLTFORAFRIKA77]

80´s than 70´s those decade are the best 90´s okay 00´s the worstest on alll!!!

[macsmetal]

00's practically have it's rating in the title...

[scumthrasher]

I was just bullshitting with Neil at Monster Mania 6-13-09. Down to earth and he gave me a new CD of his 2nd solo record SEXUAL SAVIOR and it rocks so find it and buy it!!!!! Knee down to your masters!!!!!!

[thecoop1234]

hey luneytune,,av u got the strange case of alice cooper

[LuneyTune72]

Yes but someone has already uploaded it to youtube. Also last time I tried to upload it it got deleted. The clip that I did upload from the show is from Prime Cuts (a DVD compliling many rare Alice clips and great facts). I suggest getting it to anyone who is an Alice fan.

[weenie228]

50s

[hgldfd]

he is an awesome singer and he is my litle cousin it is not a joke hehe :P

[LuneyTune72]

How old are you?

[lmtsonic]

He's one of the best ever!

[weenie228]

Do you really? That's the first concert that my husband and I saw together. We were only friends back then but got together 28 years later. It was the Elected concert.

[LuneyTune72]

Ya, I have many many many concerts of Alice's that where never released.

[weenie228]

I saw Alice Cooper at the Circus Krone in Munich in 1972. They kicked ass.

[LuneyTune72]

I have that concert bootleg hahaha.

[repelghosts]

Gemma, I attended the 1973 Billion Dollar Babys' Concert tour ,live in beautiful Toronto,Canada...A very Rock City...this is where the chicken incident occured...Luv on ya!

Lets talk soon babe!

Jeff

[LuneyTune72]

I have the concert that you went to in 1973 Toronto (if it was in Toronto).

[NothingSacred27]

I like Alice's later solo stuff as well but nothing compares to the original Alice Cooper Band.

[timturk]

Well I gotta fucking tell you, Marilyn Manson sucks Alice Cooper's fucking cock. Manson is nothing but a used fucking douche bag. Manson is a fucking fairy

[numyer]

Great stuff, the ORIGINAL Alice Cooper Band!

[alanmorri]

Indeed...the real deal. After Muscle of Love Cooper sucks.

[pernicketty]

It took a lot of years and total dedication to grow your hair that long. Straights putting you down and shit like that. Then punk rock came along and suddenly you were an old fart. Hair is just hair. I can't grow it any more anyway...

[AdmiralVaughn]

Marilyn Manson is just a nice guy, putting on a scary show, for a targeted crowd, to make some cash..no need to put him down for it..or compare him to a True Rock-N-Roll GOD Like ALICE.

[28if]

And.. the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a farce until this band is in. They have inducted all the real rock and rollers like James Taylor and the Lovin' Spoonful but not the Alice Cooper Band?

[coopersgirl52]

WOW! I saw this when originally shown on OGWT, parents going berserk and everything! No one comes close to the brilliance of Alice and his original band. M Manson is just a nasty piece of what's wrong with the world today and is on a different planet to the talent, versatility, sexiness and showmanship of Alice. love to all ACfans XX

[MikeG62]

I've seen Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson both live. Marilyn's show isn't bad but he just comes across as a darker version of Alice Cooper. I'd pay to go see Alice again anyday. At least he has a sense of humor and his show is a hell of a lot more entertaining.

[greganwortman]

wait until marilyn manson gets here

[juspertti]

who's marilyn manson?

[fluffythecat2]

@juspertti

no one really.

[LuneyTune72]

What to steal everything?

[saltwaterebel]

youre a douche! manson is a complete fuckinf wanna be. check into the real shit dumbass. you might expand a little.

[essvee10]

Wow. Here I was thinking the NY Dolls were true originals and here's Alice beating them to the punch by a few years. In particular the guitar sound is Thunder-esque to the nth degree. Oh well, I should have known they were ripping _somebody_ off.

Great number. Huge guitar solo. As he's called in Wormtown, Coopah rocks!