While I certainly understand why Antichoicers rely heavily upon pictoral references due to the fact that their argument lacks logic, they should at LEAST have the brains to comprehend that their images are offensive to their target audience.
Bottom line: Women have the inherent right to bodily autonomy. No one has the right to use someone's body against their will. Essentially Woman's right to bodily autonomy trumps ANY right the fetus has.
The first interviewee says exactly as most pro-aborts do. They try to justify the crime of abortion with the rape answer. Its the only one they have. But did you know that rape accounts for such a minimal percentage of abortions.
Pictures can have a powerful effect just like the anti-smoking commercials. Why don't people criticise anti-smoking pictures like they do with the truth about abortion?
Just going to say this, I was kind of a abortion because IF my sister never died in my mother I wouldn't of been alive today, I know my perants don't want to mention this muchand I don't bring up the topic
These idiots are no better then PETA protesters. Putting up shock images and yelling at people isn't going to solve anything but it will make you look like a bunch of idiots while you scar innocent people for life. good job fucktards! :D
@gilfOG which one? the one whose going to a clinic or the one who is anti choice and wants to force women to bare disabled or still born babys that have recieved from rape or incest?
How bout no sex before marriage! And the whole rape or child abuse thing you through at me, well you can always give it up for adoption, it has happened before. There are many stories where the woman has either kept or given that baby up for adoption. But, I know you don't like to hear that, you want to kill the babies in way possible it sounds like to me, so I know saying all this stuff doesn't really matter. God Bless!!!
How about you stop trying to force your stupid fucking religion on everybody else. Believe what you want to believe, that's fine. Don't like gay marriage? Don't get gay married. Don't like abortion? Don't have one. As for you saying that a woman should be FORCED to carry a rape or incest baby to term is despicable.
@pbmdh Don't like abortion protesters? Don't be one. Just remember, YOU might become helpless and vulnerable some day and your support for abortion makes it "ethical" to kill persons who are "inconvenient", because they stress people out. Who will speak for you if you were paralyzed or unable to speak,like Terri Schiavo? Not everything is about what we choose,but is often about what is chosen FOR us. Women should not become killers,men should not let them kill. Anti-war?War on 50,000,000 unborn
First of all when I say God Bless, it's not out of spite, I really mean it. And second you said God gave us free will, and that is correct, but you can't use that excuse when murdering innocent babies. Ever heard of the 10 commandments, THOU SHALL NOT KILL. God Bless, and I really mean it!!!
Offensive is not a criteria for banning something. You have the right to free speech, not the right to be protected from offense. "Offensive" is highly subjective and prone to political favoritism.
@Phillycursed Actually abortion is worse. What some 5 million people died in the Holocaust, which is horrible. And to date some 50 million babies have been aborted, so you tell me which is worse, both are horrible, but numbers wise, which is worse. God Bless!!!
@Pelonetillo dude your not even making sense, im saying i dont like it because it killls a human being deliberatly nobodies taling about other bodily functions or surgery, this is a human being am i getting through to you, yeah nobody wants to see a picture of a dump but taking a dump doesnt kill another human being you ignoramous omg.... its plausable to use pictures of unborn slaughtered fetuses to get a point across
lol. people know what abortions entail. showing them ugly photos of something isnt going tomstop abortions. just like seeing nasty footage of another invasive procedure isnt going to discourage people from having them done.
@Pelonetillo The civil rights movement in the 60's didn't have any "traction" until pictures of lynch mobs were shown. Pictures of concentration camps exposed the ugly truth about Nazi genocide project. Today 52% of Black babies die from surgical abortion,which qualifies it as racial holocaust,genocide.Sanger,founder of Planned Parenthood,had NEGRO PROJECT aimed at reducing Black population.SOME WILL change their mind from seeing graphic images, some won't. But history is on the side of TRUTH.
@Pelonetillo Your denial is NOW not my fault nor is it NOW not my problem. Go talk to your Dark Lord, I will pray to the Lord of Light for you, and pray that we both meet in heaven.
@Pelonetillo A good place to get a grasp of reality abut US history is to read legal precedents. Which case has discovered any Pro Life group CONSPIRACY to do ORGANIZED terrorism? Hint: reference Joe Scheidler Supreme Court case.Hint: non-violent civil disobedience is KNOWN tactic of Pro Lifers and it's what 60's Civil Rights Movement did, too. The integrity of our whole legal system is at stake now with legalized murder of both children&adults on the books. "Show trials"like in USSR next step.
@finishstrongdoc thats not the same thing as sayin pix are what really brought about civil rights. lol. what kinda hint is that when it doesnt hint at your original claim being true?? xD
@Pelonetillo Original stmt was Civil Rights for Blacks didn't get "traction' until pics were shown, they were only a part of what brought change in laws, but a necessary part. Those who were once indifferent,uninformed now SAW what indifference ALLOWS,& hearts/minds changed.Q4U: should legal EXECUTION B shown on natl TV?
which is bs. irrelevant question. im not really affected by images of violence, so i dont care. but i have more respect for logic than gimmicks which only appeal to emotion.
@Pelonetillo I hope your indifference to violent images won't prevent your conscience from being engaged for a few seconds so you can imagine how those babies got to be as torn up as they were,or how much pain they endured as they were crushed and sucked out of their mother's womb. Pro Lifers are giving them the voice they were denied.Violent murder isn't a video game or a gimmick. WAKEY wakey!!!
@finishstrongdoc < they,ve got nerve endings they feel pain they respond to external stimuli only deep denial like you're experiencing or complete moral numbness would cause someone to deny fetal pain. When the abortionist goes in to get the helpless victim they squirm around and try to hide, but it's like tryin to hide in a sleeping bag.
tryin to have an argument with yourself now? no, they dont feel pain, not until well after the 20 week mark--abortions usually take place well before that point. not that pain even matters.
@finishstrongdoc And if anyone out there is reading the "signs of the times" I TOLD a sub committee in Wisconsin years ago that we'd soon be experiencing mass evictions from homes in this country as a result and as punishment for ripping children from their first homes , their mother's womb.WAKEY, wakey!!
@Bravhrt79 so basically if someone is a victim of rape or of child abuse at a young age they should keep the reminder of that for atleast 9 months before giving it up for adoption, or if someone actually attempts to use protection but a condom breaks then a person should have to keep a reminder of 1 night with them for 9 months (and yes broken condoms do happen)? otherwise trying to get past a horrible event makes u a nazi?
@Bravhrt79 that is the reason why I gave up on religion, its either ur against the church or your with them despite the fact that the priests and religious leaders of this world are just as corruptable as u or me, and by the way u can take ur insincere blessings and shove em up ur ass cause u pro life whack jobs disregard the belief that God himself gave us the gift of free will and self control over our own decisions
you people who oppose all abortions disgust me the fact you think a women who is raped or raped by a family member should have to keep the baby. you people truely are disgusting and must have a very negative outlook on life. you think preaching to peolpe and condeming them is what jesus or god or w/e would want? if so that seems like a horrible god and i wouldnt want to be in that company
i am 100%pro life but i feel that in order to keep church and state completely separate you can not make some exceptions. no matter how terrible the situation is... and abortion is not humane regardless of whether u believe in God r not..
How can all the pro-life people complain about how horrible and brutal the pictures of aborted fetus are when it is exactly what they are supporting? At least stand up and say "Yep, that right there is what I want to be legal to happen."
The pictures are misleading -- they show late term abortions when the vast majority of abortions occur when the embryo is at a much earlier stage of development.
@mirrormirrorify The Pro Life Movement has been showing those same pics for at least 20 yrs. In the beginning,pro-aborts called them "doctored pics".If only 20% of abortions are late term,and 1.3 million are done each yr,then that makes 260,000 late-term abortions each yr.We don't need your permission to protest,it's a constitutionally protected right.
KEEP ABORTION LEGAL!! The supreme court has ruled Roe v. Wade that the woman has the right to chose, NOT christian terrorists!!! Christian extremists are NO different then Islamic terrorists
@pillowbugg Imagine this: a nice old lady who has always supported a woman's right to choose saying "My body, my choice" is in a nursing home and she needs her adult diaper changed. A nice young lady comes in to help her. Should the old lady say A) "My body, my choice, leave me alone" or B) "Thanks for recognizing my body,I'm a person,I'm helpless". As the young lady helps her,the old lady sees the body of the young lady is like hers was years ago,when she got an abortion,and it made her sterile
@finishstrongdoc Your story has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I have the RIGHT, to decide what I do with MY body. Everyone else has that same RIGHT! Choice........Choice.....Choice.
@pillowbugg So, how would you feel if the nice young lady came in, saw the nice old lady was helpless and vulnerable, and then, because she had the right to do so, got a court order, then called a doctor, and he came and killed the nice old lady? Would you support that nice young lady's right to choose?
despite the differences: old people have rights, fetuses dont. old people arent living inside of anyone else with rights, fetuses are. despite those facts, it is legal for certain individuals to decide whether to take someone off of life support. i completely support that.
@Pelonetillo Life is a journey that begins at conception. At that moment we "receive" our human rights. No state law can "remove" those rights, they can be destroyed only by killing the life you are given. Where that life ends can be determined by others. We all must recognize each others intrinsic right to life, or cultural chaos ensues. Agreed: life is a gift,not to be taken by others. No agreement,no cultural bonding, no culture, just autonomos entities "floating" & killing needlessly.
no one knows when life began; it certainly doesnt begin at conception. abortion has been going on for a while now--the chaos that ensued must notve been too bad.
@Pelonetillo You're making an assumption based on what? Don't all living things have a beginning and ending? We protect the life of turtles by protecting turtle eggs, don't we?
based on historical observation. you do know that the hypothesis of life emerging spontaneously was disproved over a hundred years ago, right? life doesnt just appear out of thin air, it has only ever been seen following life that came first. there is no known beginning for life.
@Pelonetillo Life emerges spontaneously whenever a new person is conceived by human sexual intercourse. Your theory needs a little more insight, like common sense, maybe. And as for the origins of all life, prior to anything, we have to go to philosophy, not just science and history. Before science and history can exist there has to be a "something" that creates matter. The beginning and ending of all knowing is not confined to the material.
no, it doesnt. your common sense is more like proud ignorance. it has nothing to do with contributors, it has to do with societies growing beyond their means.
@Pelonetillo I don't think you can improve any situation dealing with distribution of goods by allowing the killing of the preborn. Does you position think otherwise?
if there arent enough goods to go around, more people will aggravate the situation. a bit different from social security troubles though, since its basically a pyramid scheme.
@Pelonetillo All the world's problems have a spiritual component to them;if we all took the 10 Commandments and Beatitudes to heart,& lived them,most problems of scarcity would end . 7 Deadly Sins cause the problems we have. You can't end poverty by eliminating the poor. Good govt is one which makes it easy 2B good,hard2B bad.Churchmen erred in trying to convert traditional cultures,without censuring modernists "enthusiasm"for sin. Church teachings weren't at fault,teachers,modernists were.
@Pelonetillo I think you're saying God cayuses abortion by causing spontaneous abortion(stillbirth)aren't you? His ways R not R ways. God also causes spontaneous birth.The Bible's living interpreter is the Catholic Church,which cannot err on things concerning faith&morals. Church has yet to find a generation of people willing to follow all she teaches.The Church is not like Islam"kill the infidels",but has done some wicked things in the past,tho not as bad as some claim,not God's fault,but ours
@Pelonetillo The sexual urge is always going to be a challenge for most everyone. Responsible behavour is not always possible:we're human,and we all fail from time to time. Making good come from evil is difficult,not impossible.That's the beautiful thing about us, we can change,choose to do the right thing. The only failure is failing to try,to think good can't be done.
@Pelonetillo Well. i have learned that sex is nit just good, not just great, but it is holy. I try to live by that, and abstain, but ..Not God's fault I'm irresponsible like most everyone else. But I still try. It's good to be free,to have sex(with spouse) or not have it (for sake of freedom) Like I saidB4,the only failure is the failure to try. That's my opinion,but then I'm always trying difficult things,go way too far sometimes, but that's just me.
@Pelonetillo Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but no one has a right to their own facts. Don't you think it's a little tiresome to hear "i'm right because that's my opinion" all the time from the atheist/PC/Pro Abortion opinioneers?You guys have had that hate God/America stuff shoved so far up that you are just sock-puppet reactionaries with no mind of your own. Unable to decide whether to jump or wind your watch when faced with hard evidence, you just say "Oh,well,"opinion".
@finishstrongdoc Here's a good example of what I''m talking about when facts are in the faces of PC crowd. They're looking at a picture of a dead baby. Not half-dead, just DEAD. Looking for a gray area to hide in they can't,so they just attack by saying"Well, I don't think they should show THAT".Why the hell not?Fact:dead baby=BAD!! Fact:live baby=GOOD. No half truth,just truth. Being avoided on a collegecampus, where truth is supposed to be everyone's right to see,hear,smell,KNOW.
@finishstrongdoc Idiot. I'm against abortion and I hate these people when they show up on campus. This is not how you win people to your cause, but then again since when did fundamentalist Christians ever apply logic?
@LonghornPhysicist I'm not sure I can say which Church these belong to, but I support their way of doing this because I think Jesus would do it the same way. He was confrontational, they didn't crucify him for being a conformist to PC of the times,and his crucifixion was a public bloody spectacle&took ridicule,scorn,beating etc,as did all his flwrs for 1st 400 yrs. You can win with good works,but the Gospel must be preached everywhere,not just where"convenient".
@finishstrongdoc Easy for you to say. I walk past these assholes on my way to class and they shout at EVERYONE telling them they are going to Hell. They judge people just because we go to an "elite" school and therefore must be complete immoral sinners. I think Christ said it best when it comes to these people "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" I do not consider these people to be decent in the slightest.
@LonghornPhysicist If they shout that people are going to Hell, then they are expressing an opinion on which they are not qualified to judge. Only God can condemn a person to Hell. If the "going to Hell" comment is made,that would be blasphemy,but I'd still like to knw the context of stmnt.It's not said on tape.We all will be held accountable for what we say&do,no one's saved until they GET TO HEAVEN. Evanglcls think they are once-saved-always-save,but they forget about God's judgment in that
@finishstrongdoc They are only guilty of incorrect understanding of God's Word. In that case they are what's called "invincibly ignorant". I sympathise with you if the"going to Hell" comment was made as banket stmt to all,cause it's just offensive. BUT, the pics themselves would hold up in a court of law as evidence of MURDER if Roe weren't in place protecting CHILD MURDER. THIS is LEGAL ineptitude of highest order,and is COMPLETELY at odds with moral law,natural law (continued)
@finishstrongdoc The showing of graphic pictures IS LEGIT FREE SPEECH, one of the FEW avenues of TRUTH available to laypersons to express outrage, redress of grievances."Elite schools" are MOSt important places for FREE xchng of TRUTH. Broken babies are the WHOLE TRUTH,not half truth, not half-dead,ALL DEAD,ALL TRUTH,all BROKEN. And TRUTH BROKEN in sanctity of life, breaks the sanctity of hallowed learning centers!!! This is Satanic,diabolical and is "END GAME"strategy to KILL all good !!!
@Pelonetillo Do you know how the Spider does the fly? Spider catches fly in the invisible web, then Spider eats fly,little by little, piece by piece, bite by bite, always being careful not to kill fly, day after day, until one day Spider comes and.......
@Pelonetillo There's a strange coincidence going on here. Babies evicted from mom's womb(babie's first home) 1,300 a day, about the same # of evictions per day in US today. Stock market, money worldwide unstable, health care, Social Security on verge of collapse(too few paying in, people living longer). Don't think any of this chaos is connected to abortion?
@finishstrongdoc This video is in fact a case where chaos is created by the abortion debate. I have been doing Pro Life demonstrations similar to these, and have been physically, verbally attacked, death threats, tearing up signs. Many women report post abortion trauma, though not all do,but all say it was "regrettable,difficult time". Doesn't sound "stable" to me.I don't condone it, but abortionist have been killed. This is like anti-slavery conflict,that preceded Civil War.
@finishstrongdoc Another unfortunate outcome related to abortion is the breakup of relationships following abortion. When relationships fail, households break up, requiring more housing units to be made. Previously unused land,once tillable land or even wilderness lands are then needed to put these units on. Ironically, enviornmental groups don't recognize this connection or refuse to. Earth friendly living arrangements: many using one unit, not fewer using many units.Sierra Club listen
@Pelonetillo And it is instructive to note that the way our society responds to the act of procreation, with all its effects, on both women and men, is vulnerable to the whims of the power structures. The sexual, urge, response,it's causes & outcomes, are best left inviolate by the powerful, not used for political or monetary gain.No porn,Xceptives,abortion,titty bars,etc. Just sayin we'd all be better off w/o those things. At least we can confine them,not glorify them,they cause chaos.
@Pelonetillo This area of discussion on abortion is distasteful to me, because it brings in the idea that some are not capable of being "contributors",and the powerful use this argument to do forced sterilizations, own slaves, racism, all that because of "inferior quality of life" characterization determined by power group, which can demoralize others and in the process demoralize self & their nation, like abortion has done to us.
@finishstrongdoc Having the freedom to choose your own future or demise is each person's right.....Not your right to tell anyone what is best for them. Not only would I support her choice.......I would defend it!!! Now you: An 11 yr old girl pregnant by an uncle raping her? Does she have a right to her body? Her future?
@pillowbugg I will try to answer your question, but first I believe you misunderstood the case I presented to you. In that case, the nice old lady didn't want to die. The question is does one person have the right to kill another person who is not wanting to die, and has committed no crime? Can the state allow this type of killing to occur?
@Pelonetillo You've just made my point for me. We can't have the legal system taking our life,just because it can. The nice old lady doesn't want to die,but in the case I presented,the Dr. was killing by request of the caregiver,and the state allowed it. This is happening in Europe now. Don't you see the pattern, the connection between abortion and euthanasia? Some aborted babies live and are allowed to die. OK with you, or not OK?
not really. yes, we can. i cant speak for europe, but i know what the law says in the us. babies alive, outside of the womb are protected by law, theyre born.
unless the lady is capable of expressing what she wants, if someone else is legally responsible for life support decisions its up to them. fetuses dont want anything; theyre unconscious.
The fact is that Abortion not only ends a human life but it ALSO hurts the woman. Instead of carrying her child for Nine months she ends up carrying an emotional Suitcase with her for the rest of her life. Find a girl that has had an abortion and you will find a girl that has been suicidal, has drug/alcohol abuse problems, sleeping problems, depression and a host of other traumas.
The fact is, your full of shit! Keep your fucking agenda away from other people. Women have the right to chose what they want for their bodies, Not you!! I know a couple of people who have had abortions..They are NOT suicidal, have substance abuse problems, sleeping problems or anything else. You and your stupid fucking lying bullshit fairy tale religion can go fuck your god in the ass while I kick jesus in his fucking head you goddamn ignorant fucktard lying piece of shit.
@SilentSpork Whether God exists or not isn't relative to abortion. Even agnostics can find they wish to speak for the unborn, so that human rights can apply to ALL, not just those who CAN speak for themselves. Science has advanced since ROE, and it shows Roe was badly decided.Facts are facts,opinions not based on facts should be overturned to reflect facts.Our whole system of justice is based on human rights that one OWNS,& which cannot be TAKEN AWAY by CHOICE of ANY Court.
@SilentSpork And it would be even nicer of pro choice extremists didn't refer to Pro Lifers as "fucktards". At least ONCE in a while, just to "clear the air" a little.
The only terrorists at an abortion clinic are the christian extremists that want to kill everyone and anyone who doesn't believe in their mythology!! You christians are the most violent arrogant low life's I know. OUTLAW CHRISTIANITY!!!!
@pillowbugg The few who have gone to extremes and killed abortion doctors are the exceptions that prove the rule. Pro Life movement is peaceful, prayerful,non-violent. Graphic images are giving THOSE children a VOICE they were DENIED because of CHOICE. Protest is legal,protected freedom of speech.Who will speak for YOUR rights if you can't speak for yourself?Human rights can't be taken from some persons without offense of SOMEONE,who may not even BE in the group whose rights are denied .
@pillowbugg Yeah,RIGHT,we're out there "threatening" people with our pictures of Jesus and our Rosaries. If YOUR group's right to life is ever threatened by a bad court decision, we will protest THAT, when they start killing YOUR group, too. We protested murder of Terri Schiavo,cause hers was a test case,as well as the fact that she was a real person who needed someone to speak for her right to life.Your bigoted comments about Christianity should be removed as hate speech.
@SeanDeath Someday YOU might become unable to speak for yourself, and you live in a culture that says it's OK to kill the inconvenient ones. Who will speak for you then? Remember Terri Schiavo? The court ordered she be starved to death because Michael,her husband,wanted to "move on"& marry his live-in lover,plus he wanted to spend $ he'd gotten f/settlement of case of malpractice on Terri.Sometimes others CHOOSE FOR US,and we can't do a thing other than protest.Pro Life speaks FOR the unborn.
@SeanDeath Someday YOU might become unable to speak for yourself; who will speak for you then? Would someone speaking for your human rights sicken you THEN?
How could someone kill there own child. Anyone who agrees with Abortion is a spineless cowardly piece of shit who needs to get there shit together and shut the fuck up. democrats suck!
It took you 3 weeks to come up with THAT? LMFAO!! I didn't presume anything. Why do so many pro-lifers assume abortion is PREFERABLE to pro-choicers? It only hurts your cause. I think it's great when abortion is averted. But I also understand that out of the billions of lives that have lived, are living, and will ever live, none will be alike (for better or worse). A woman certainly has more of a right to make that decision for her body than the government. Talk to ya in 3 weeks. LMAO!
Fucking extreamists. They are the ones going to hell. When we can take care of 7 billion people, then maybe they can start to preach about this shit. GO ABORTIONS!!!
@AnEndlessObsession Your argument that Pro Life groups should fund all unexpected pregnancies that mother's wish to then abort is a bad argument. The anti-slave people didn't buy all the slaves from their masters. Most slaves weren't"for sale".$335,000,000 tax money/yr goes to PLANNED BARRENHOOD:that $ could be spent to fund preg care ctrs.POP CONTROL is a scam,enuf resources to feed the world,but greed,civil wars of hatred of other groups cause famine,despair,failure.
Many women seeking abortions have also faced harassment, interference, and intimidation at abortion clinics.
Since 1977, there have been more than 45, 000 reported cases of picketing, 400 cases of stalking, 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid
And, as we are all too well aware, abortion has been at the heart of a political and cultural storm for over 3 decades it has been legally available in the United States—a particularly deadly, ugly situation.
It has left dead in its wake Dr David Gunn, Dr John Bayard Britton, Dr Bernard Slepian, James Barrett, Shannon Lowney, and Leanne Nichols. At least 6 other people have been shot and seriously wounded.
It appears as if Satan was not happy to see Christians doing God's work. Abortion is the murder of unborn children, read your Bibles. God hates the shedding of innocent blood. God knew us even before we were formed in the womb. Jesus said to let the little children come to Him. Hitler killed people in the name of "ethnic cleansing," black people were slaves because of "labor" babies are killed for the sake of "choice." ABORTION IS MURDER! God bless.
When the Israelites entered the Promised Land after they fled from Egypt, God instructed them to lay waste the cities and the inhabitants of the region and the slaughter of men, women and children.
Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
Life DOES NOT begin at conception, you ignorant fuck. Stop preaching false shit that your pastor told you to say you blind sheep follower!! Human embryos have NO central nervous system. They are not human. The cow and pig at the slaughterhouse feel more pain then a human embryo. Go protest there you idiot. OR better yet, protest your fake delusional god for making women miscarriage. There you go you stupid illogical delusional ignorant hypocritical christian fucktard!
OK, everyone can have a choice, but the fact that the anti abortion front is enforced but pathetic, weak-minded, arrogant fucking christians and catholics, ruins there credibility. NEWSFLASH: Jesus isnt real, religions are all STORIES. Check out zeitgeist the movie. that ought to set those religous zombies straight
i love the enlightened gentleman's logic who wears the striped shirt. "If a woman is raped, kill the rapists child." Makes sense to me! Yeah right. Its not the baby's fault the mother was raped. Its not the tiny human being's fault that half of his/her DNA was shot up into the egg by a rapist! KILL KILL KILL no, we gotta make it sound better....CHOICE CHOICE CHOICE
"They're pushing religion on us". All anti christians and atheist what is wrong with us sharing what we believe. Atheist push their beliefS on us. We aren't violating any human right by presenting the Gospel to you. you can either accept it or reject it. That's freedom of speech and without a God who Sets a moral code, what can you appeal to to call the actions of christian evangelist WRONG?
THey're angry at the lies of pro-lifers, and their insinuations that these photos are representative of any more than a fraction of one percent of most abortions. :D
theyre pro choice, not pro gross. i dont wanna see photos of your gastric bypass; that doesnt mean i want it to be illegal for you to get one. i dont wanna see photos of the dump you took, doesnt mean i want it to be illegal for you to go number 2.
@Pelonetillo Your comparing gastric bypass to babies lol. Reality sucks and people don't want to see the horrors of what they support, ummmm smacks them in the face. God Bless!!!
if they thought it was such a horror, they wouldnt support it. many people dont like to see blood, some even faint. doesnt mean theyre gonna make surgery illegal.
@dazeycutr Not really, jusgment will be coming for you as you are in a judgemental religion
and the people on earth will judge you as a sick replusive twat
trying to make women carry dead babies
being anti gay anti-choice. probably pro-war, pro-death penalty, anti-universal health care, and against the idea that food, clothing and shelter are basic necessities of life.
and that qoute is so interpretational that it is meaningless
4:00 Dumb girl, did she really thing she looked good going out like that, I mean come on...her face and ass and tits, this is why we go to college fuck sluts. they get abortions. the world turns
if i was the reporter interviewing that annoying girl in purple, i would have to wonder: pictures of dead babies are "not okay," but actual dead babies are cool if they mother chooses.
And revolving an issue around Jesus Christ is "not okay," but revolving an issue around fat stupid sluts who got prematurely pregnant is all cool.
i see why Jesus may want a rapture right about now
While I certainly understand why Antichoicers rely heavily upon pictoral references due to the fact that their argument lacks logic, they should at LEAST have the brains to comprehend that their images are offensive to their target audience.
Bottom line: Women have the inherent right to bodily autonomy. No one has the right to use someone's body against their will. Essentially Woman's right to bodily autonomy trumps ANY right the fetus has.
Cheers!
BethisRad 7 months ago
B^U
EltBerserker 8 months ago
The first interviewee says exactly as most pro-aborts do. They try to justify the crime of abortion with the rape answer. Its the only one they have. But did you know that rape accounts for such a minimal percentage of abortions.
Pictures can have a powerful effect just like the anti-smoking commercials. Why don't people criticise anti-smoking pictures like they do with the truth about abortion?
member250108 8 months ago
@member250108 Does it matter if it's one person who gets raped and pregnant? If it happens at all, we still have to account for it.
GentlemanThunder7 6 months ago
"I's totally up for abortion i's been responsible for at least 5 of dem" - Ali G
lonoguge99 9 months ago
BLAH BLAH BLAH! And I'm talking to all you Pro abortion people!
Bravhrt79 9 months ago
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Bravhrt79 9 months ago
Just going to say this, I was kind of a abortion because IF my sister never died in my mother I wouldn't of been alive today, I know my perants don't want to mention this muchand I don't bring up the topic
DeathMachinima 1 year ago
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Bravhrt79 1 year ago
These idiots are no better then PETA protesters. Putting up shock images and yelling at people isn't going to solve anything but it will make you look like a bunch of idiots while you scar innocent people for life. good job fucktards! :D
SubparPanda 1 year ago
that Christian guy is a tool. If you agree thumbs up me!
gilfOG 1 year ago
@gilfOG which one? the one whose going to a clinic or the one who is anti choice and wants to force women to bare disabled or still born babys that have recieved from rape or incest?
pandasftuw 1 year ago
Religion makes me sick.
p0rkch0ps 1 year ago
Smoke a cigar, the ultiamte sign of defiance.
dan012345 1 year ago
How bout no sex before marriage! And the whole rape or child abuse thing you through at me, well you can always give it up for adoption, it has happened before. There are many stories where the woman has either kept or given that baby up for adoption. But, I know you don't like to hear that, you want to kill the babies in way possible it sounds like to me, so I know saying all this stuff doesn't really matter. God Bless!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
How about you stop trying to force your stupid fucking religion on everybody else. Believe what you want to believe, that's fine. Don't like gay marriage? Don't get gay married. Don't like abortion? Don't have one. As for you saying that a woman should be FORCED to carry a rape or incest baby to term is despicable.
pbmdh 1 year ago
@pbmdh Don't like abortion protesters? Don't be one. Just remember, YOU might become helpless and vulnerable some day and your support for abortion makes it "ethical" to kill persons who are "inconvenient", because they stress people out. Who will speak for you if you were paralyzed or unable to speak,like Terri Schiavo? Not everything is about what we choose,but is often about what is chosen FOR us. Women should not become killers,men should not let them kill. Anti-war?War on 50,000,000 unborn
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
First of all when I say God Bless, it's not out of spite, I really mean it. And second you said God gave us free will, and that is correct, but you can't use that excuse when murdering innocent babies. Ever heard of the 10 commandments, THOU SHALL NOT KILL. God Bless, and I really mean it!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
Blah! Blah! Blah! Yeah I know, your right and everybody else is wrong! God Bless!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
Lol, you just can't bring yourself to say the word babies can you lol! God Bless!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
If it's ok to show pictures of dead dismembered babies.then why can't people walk around nude without being arrested.lol
mrgore97 1 year ago
@mrgore97 dumbass!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
Abolish Abortion-Genocide... Respect a Womb Citizen's God given unalienable right to life... His loss of liberty is my loss of liberty and Ur loss...
RalphMariedeLargo 1 year ago
Abortion saves lives
Howard Stern
HowardSternn 1 year ago
@HowardSternn even before abortion was legal you could still get an abortion if the mothers life was in absolute danger, your argument is dead..
nesquick3415 1 year ago
@nesquick3415 Only way to end Abortion is by changing hearts not more GOV
HowardSternn 1 year ago
Offensive is not a criteria for banning something. You have the right to free speech, not the right to be protected from offense. "Offensive" is highly subjective and prone to political favoritism.
tbsla13 1 year ago
what a huge cigar!
climid 1 year ago
this guy is really comparing the holocaust to abortion???
Phillycursed 1 year ago
@Phillycursed if the babies were jewish maybe O_O
ughzean 1 year ago
@Phillycursed Actually abortion is worse. What some 5 million people died in the Holocaust, which is horrible. And to date some 50 million babies have been aborted, so you tell me which is worse, both are horrible, but numbers wise, which is worse. God Bless!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
god bless, lol. god doesnt exist. go put out some cookies for santa clause or put a tooth under your pillow.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo dude your not even making sense, im saying i dont like it because it killls a human being deliberatly nobodies taling about other bodily functions or surgery, this is a human being am i getting through to you, yeah nobody wants to see a picture of a dump but taking a dump doesnt kill another human being you ignoramous omg.... its plausable to use pictures of unborn slaughtered fetuses to get a point across
nesquick3415 1 year ago
lol. people know what abortions entail. showing them ugly photos of something isnt going tomstop abortions. just like seeing nasty footage of another invasive procedure isnt going to discourage people from having them done.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo The civil rights movement in the 60's didn't have any "traction" until pictures of lynch mobs were shown. Pictures of concentration camps exposed the ugly truth about Nazi genocide project. Today 52% of Black babies die from surgical abortion,which qualifies it as racial holocaust,genocide.Sanger,founder of Planned Parenthood,had NEGRO PROJECT aimed at reducing Black population.SOME WILL change their mind from seeing graphic images, some won't. But history is on the side of TRUTH.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc hahaha, what a crock. pix are what enabled civil rights. thats adorable.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Your denial is NOW not my fault nor is it NOW not my problem. Go talk to your Dark Lord, I will pray to the Lord of Light for you, and pray that we both meet in heaven.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc my denial that happens to be in line with documented us history. right. lol.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo A good place to get a grasp of reality abut US history is to read legal precedents. Which case has discovered any Pro Life group CONSPIRACY to do ORGANIZED terrorism? Hint: reference Joe Scheidler Supreme Court case.Hint: non-violent civil disobedience is KNOWN tactic of Pro Lifers and it's what 60's Civil Rights Movement did, too. The integrity of our whole legal system is at stake now with legalized murder of both children&adults on the books. "Show trials"like in USSR next step.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc thats not the same thing as sayin pix are what really brought about civil rights. lol. what kinda hint is that when it doesnt hint at your original claim being true?? xD
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Original stmt was Civil Rights for Blacks didn't get "traction' until pics were shown, they were only a part of what brought change in laws, but a necessary part. Those who were once indifferent,uninformed now SAW what indifference ALLOWS,& hearts/minds changed.Q4U: should legal EXECUTION B shown on natl TV?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
which is bs. irrelevant question. im not really affected by images of violence, so i dont care. but i have more respect for logic than gimmicks which only appeal to emotion.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo I hope your indifference to violent images won't prevent your conscience from being engaged for a few seconds so you can imagine how those babies got to be as torn up as they were,or how much pain they endured as they were crushed and sucked out of their mother's womb. Pro Lifers are giving them the voice they were denied.Violent murder isn't a video game or a gimmick. WAKEY wakey!!!
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
its a gimmick. and you dont know what youre talking about. they didnt feel any pain.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc < they,ve got nerve endings they feel pain they respond to external stimuli only deep denial like you're experiencing or complete moral numbness would cause someone to deny fetal pain. When the abortionist goes in to get the helpless victim they squirm around and try to hide, but it's like tryin to hide in a sleeping bag.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
tryin to have an argument with yourself now? no, they dont feel pain, not until well after the 20 week mark--abortions usually take place well before that point. not that pain even matters.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc And if anyone out there is reading the "signs of the times" I TOLD a sub committee in Wisconsin years ago that we'd soon be experiencing mass evictions from homes in this country as a result and as punishment for ripping children from their first homes , their mother's womb.WAKEY, wakey!!
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@Bravhrt79 so basically if someone is a victim of rape or of child abuse at a young age they should keep the reminder of that for atleast 9 months before giving it up for adoption, or if someone actually attempts to use protection but a condom breaks then a person should have to keep a reminder of 1 night with them for 9 months (and yes broken condoms do happen)? otherwise trying to get past a horrible event makes u a nazi?
Phillycursed 1 year ago
@Bravhrt79 that is the reason why I gave up on religion, its either ur against the church or your with them despite the fact that the priests and religious leaders of this world are just as corruptable as u or me, and by the way u can take ur insincere blessings and shove em up ur ass cause u pro life whack jobs disregard the belief that God himself gave us the gift of free will and self control over our own decisions
Phillycursed 1 year ago
you people who oppose all abortions disgust me the fact you think a women who is raped or raped by a family member should have to keep the baby. you people truely are disgusting and must have a very negative outlook on life. you think preaching to peolpe and condeming them is what jesus or god or w/e would want? if so that seems like a horrible god and i wouldnt want to be in that company
hero99a 2 years ago
I'm addicted to having abortions in fact I feel like having one right now.
NiklasKing87 2 years ago
i am 100%pro life but i feel that in order to keep church and state completely separate you can not make some exceptions. no matter how terrible the situation is... and abortion is not humane regardless of whether u believe in God r not..
zupe88 2 years ago
How can all the pro-life people complain about how horrible and brutal the pictures of aborted fetus are when it is exactly what they are supporting? At least stand up and say "Yep, that right there is what I want to be legal to happen."
inseeisyou 2 years ago
The pictures are misleading -- they show late term abortions when the vast majority of abortions occur when the embryo is at a much earlier stage of development.
mirrormirrorify 1 year ago
@mirrormirrorify The Pro Life Movement has been showing those same pics for at least 20 yrs. In the beginning,pro-aborts called them "doctored pics".If only 20% of abortions are late term,and 1.3 million are done each yr,then that makes 260,000 late-term abortions each yr.We don't need your permission to protest,it's a constitutionally protected right.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
KEEP ABORTION LEGAL!! The supreme court has ruled Roe v. Wade that the woman has the right to chose, NOT christian terrorists!!! Christian extremists are NO different then Islamic terrorists
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@pillowbugg What an idiot you are!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
@pillowbugg Imagine this: a nice old lady who has always supported a woman's right to choose saying "My body, my choice" is in a nursing home and she needs her adult diaper changed. A nice young lady comes in to help her. Should the old lady say A) "My body, my choice, leave me alone" or B) "Thanks for recognizing my body,I'm a person,I'm helpless". As the young lady helps her,the old lady sees the body of the young lady is like hers was years ago,when she got an abortion,and it made her sterile
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Your story has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I have the RIGHT, to decide what I do with MY body. Everyone else has that same RIGHT! Choice........Choice.....Choice.
pillowbugg 1 year ago
@pillowbugg So, how would you feel if the nice young lady came in, saw the nice old lady was helpless and vulnerable, and then, because she had the right to do so, got a court order, then called a doctor, and he came and killed the nice old lady? Would you support that nice young lady's right to choose?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
despite the differences: old people have rights, fetuses dont. old people arent living inside of anyone else with rights, fetuses are. despite those facts, it is legal for certain individuals to decide whether to take someone off of life support. i completely support that.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Life is a journey that begins at conception. At that moment we "receive" our human rights. No state law can "remove" those rights, they can be destroyed only by killing the life you are given. Where that life ends can be determined by others. We all must recognize each others intrinsic right to life, or cultural chaos ensues. Agreed: life is a gift,not to be taken by others. No agreement,no cultural bonding, no culture, just autonomos entities "floating" & killing needlessly.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
no one knows when life began; it certainly doesnt begin at conception. abortion has been going on for a while now--the chaos that ensued must notve been too bad.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo You're making an assumption based on what? Don't all living things have a beginning and ending? We protect the life of turtles by protecting turtle eggs, don't we?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
based on historical observation. you do know that the hypothesis of life emerging spontaneously was disproved over a hundred years ago, right? life doesnt just appear out of thin air, it has only ever been seen following life that came first. there is no known beginning for life.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Life emerges spontaneously whenever a new person is conceived by human sexual intercourse. Your theory needs a little more insight, like common sense, maybe. And as for the origins of all life, prior to anything, we have to go to philosophy, not just science and history. Before science and history can exist there has to be a "something" that creates matter. The beginning and ending of all knowing is not confined to the material.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
no, it doesnt. your common sense is more like proud ignorance. it has nothing to do with contributors, it has to do with societies growing beyond their means.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo I don't think you can improve any situation dealing with distribution of goods by allowing the killing of the preborn. Does you position think otherwise?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
if there arent enough goods to go around, more people will aggravate the situation. a bit different from social security troubles though, since its basically a pyramid scheme.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo All the world's problems have a spiritual component to them;if we all took the 10 Commandments and Beatitudes to heart,& lived them,most problems of scarcity would end . 7 Deadly Sins cause the problems we have. You can't end poverty by eliminating the poor. Good govt is one which makes it easy 2B good,hard2B bad.Churchmen erred in trying to convert traditional cultures,without censuring modernists "enthusiasm"for sin. Church teachings weren't at fault,teachers,modernists were.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
the bible condones abortion, among other things you probably think are sinful.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo I think you're saying God cayuses abortion by causing spontaneous abortion(stillbirth)aren't you? His ways R not R ways. God also causes spontaneous birth.The Bible's living interpreter is the Catholic Church,which cannot err on things concerning faith&morals. Church has yet to find a generation of people willing to follow all she teaches.The Church is not like Islam"kill the infidels",but has done some wicked things in the past,tho not as bad as some claim,not God's fault,but ours
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc no, im not. although, thats a good point. humans have sex; thats what leads to births.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo The sexual urge is always going to be a challenge for most everyone. Responsible behavour is not always possible:we're human,and we all fail from time to time. Making good come from evil is difficult,not impossible.That's the beautiful thing about us, we can change,choose to do the right thing. The only failure is failing to try,to think good can't be done.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
for you maybe; others like it and see no reason to fight it. just because you think its wrong doesnt mean it is.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Well. i have learned that sex is nit just good, not just great, but it is holy. I try to live by that, and abstain, but ..Not God's fault I'm irresponsible like most everyone else. But I still try. It's good to be free,to have sex(with spouse) or not have it (for sake of freedom) Like I saidB4,the only failure is the failure to try. That's my opinion,but then I'm always trying difficult things,go way too far sometimes, but that's just me.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
this is what youve been told, im sure. not everyone shares your beliefs though.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but no one has a right to their own facts. Don't you think it's a little tiresome to hear "i'm right because that's my opinion" all the time from the atheist/PC/Pro Abortion opinioneers?You guys have had that hate God/America stuff shoved so far up that you are just sock-puppet reactionaries with no mind of your own. Unable to decide whether to jump or wind your watch when faced with hard evidence, you just say "Oh,well,"opinion".
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Here's a good example of what I''m talking about when facts are in the faces of PC crowd. They're looking at a picture of a dead baby. Not half-dead, just DEAD. Looking for a gray area to hide in they can't,so they just attack by saying"Well, I don't think they should show THAT".Why the hell not?Fact:dead baby=BAD!! Fact:live baby=GOOD. No half truth,just truth. Being avoided on a collegecampus, where truth is supposed to be everyone's right to see,hear,smell,KNOW.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Idiot. I'm against abortion and I hate these people when they show up on campus. This is not how you win people to your cause, but then again since when did fundamentalist Christians ever apply logic?
LonghornPhysicist 1 year ago
@LonghornPhysicist I'm not sure I can say which Church these belong to, but I support their way of doing this because I think Jesus would do it the same way. He was confrontational, they didn't crucify him for being a conformist to PC of the times,and his crucifixion was a public bloody spectacle&took ridicule,scorn,beating etc,as did all his flwrs for 1st 400 yrs. You can win with good works,but the Gospel must be preached everywhere,not just where"convenient".
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Easy for you to say. I walk past these assholes on my way to class and they shout at EVERYONE telling them they are going to Hell. They judge people just because we go to an "elite" school and therefore must be complete immoral sinners. I think Christ said it best when it comes to these people "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" I do not consider these people to be decent in the slightest.
LonghornPhysicist 1 year ago
@LonghornPhysicist If they shout that people are going to Hell, then they are expressing an opinion on which they are not qualified to judge. Only God can condemn a person to Hell. If the "going to Hell" comment is made,that would be blasphemy,but I'd still like to knw the context of stmnt.It's not said on tape.We all will be held accountable for what we say&do,no one's saved until they GET TO HEAVEN. Evanglcls think they are once-saved-always-save,but they forget about God's judgment in that
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
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@finishstrongdoc They are only guilty of incorrect understanding of God's Word. In that case they are what's called "invincibly ignorant". I sympathise with you if the"going to Hell" comment was made as banket stmt to all,cause it's just offensive. BUT, the pics themselves would hold up in a court of law as evidence of MURDER if Roe weren't in place protecting CHILD MURDER. THIS is LEGAL ineptitude of highest order,and is COMPLETELY at odds with moral law,natural law (continued)
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc The showing of graphic pictures IS LEGIT FREE SPEECH, one of the FEW avenues of TRUTH available to laypersons to express outrage, redress of grievances."Elite schools" are MOSt important places for FREE xchng of TRUTH. Broken babies are the WHOLE TRUTH,not half truth, not half-dead,ALL DEAD,ALL TRUTH,all BROKEN. And TRUTH BROKEN in sanctity of life, breaks the sanctity of hallowed learning centers!!! This is Satanic,diabolical and is "END GAME"strategy to KILL all good !!!
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
what facts do you have? arent you going on about god n pics saving black folk? lolol
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Do you know how the Spider does the fly? Spider catches fly in the invisible web, then Spider eats fly,little by little, piece by piece, bite by bite, always being careful not to kill fly, day after day, until one day Spider comes and.......
CHOMP!! SPIDER KILLS FLY!!
The Spider is lies
You're the fly >;<
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
youre dumb.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo >;
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
=^_^=
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo ;
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
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finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo There's a strange coincidence going on here. Babies evicted from mom's womb(babie's first home) 1,300 a day, about the same # of evictions per day in US today. Stock market, money worldwide unstable, health care, Social Security on verge of collapse(too few paying in, people living longer). Don't think any of this chaos is connected to abortion?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc This video is in fact a case where chaos is created by the abortion debate. I have been doing Pro Life demonstrations similar to these, and have been physically, verbally attacked, death threats, tearing up signs. Many women report post abortion trauma, though not all do,but all say it was "regrettable,difficult time". Doesn't sound "stable" to me.I don't condone it, but abortionist have been killed. This is like anti-slavery conflict,that preceded Civil War.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Another unfortunate outcome related to abortion is the breakup of relationships following abortion. When relationships fail, households break up, requiring more housing units to be made. Previously unused land,once tillable land or even wilderness lands are then needed to put these units on. Ironically, enviornmental groups don't recognize this connection or refuse to. Earth friendly living arrangements: many using one unit, not fewer using many units.Sierra Club listen
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
lots of women suffer from depression and other ills after giving birth. i guess we shouldnt let them get pregnant.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo And it is instructive to note that the way our society responds to the act of procreation, with all its effects, on both women and men, is vulnerable to the whims of the power structures. The sexual, urge, response,it's causes & outcomes, are best left inviolate by the powerful, not used for political or monetary gain.No porn,Xceptives,abortion,titty bars,etc. Just sayin we'd all be better off w/o those things. At least we can confine them,not glorify them,they cause chaos.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
no, if anything its connected to too few abortions. too many people running around that cant afford to sustain themselves.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo This area of discussion on abortion is distasteful to me, because it brings in the idea that some are not capable of being "contributors",and the powerful use this argument to do forced sterilizations, own slaves, racism, all that because of "inferior quality of life" characterization determined by power group, which can demoralize others and in the process demoralize self & their nation, like abortion has done to us.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc Having the freedom to choose your own future or demise is each person's right.....Not your right to tell anyone what is best for them. Not only would I support her choice.......I would defend it!!! Now you: An 11 yr old girl pregnant by an uncle raping her? Does she have a right to her body? Her future?
pillowbugg 1 year ago
@pillowbugg I will try to answer your question, but first I believe you misunderstood the case I presented to you. In that case, the nice old lady didn't want to die. The question is does one person have the right to kill another person who is not wanting to die, and has committed no crime? Can the state allow this type of killing to occur?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
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Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo You've just made my point for me. We can't have the legal system taking our life,just because it can. The nice old lady doesn't want to die,but in the case I presented,the Dr. was killing by request of the caregiver,and the state allowed it. This is happening in Europe now. Don't you see the pattern, the connection between abortion and euthanasia? Some aborted babies live and are allowed to die. OK with you, or not OK?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
not really. yes, we can. i cant speak for europe, but i know what the law says in the us. babies alive, outside of the womb are protected by law, theyre born.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
unless the lady is capable of expressing what she wants, if someone else is legally responsible for life support decisions its up to them. fetuses dont want anything; theyre unconscious.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
The fact is that Abortion not only ends a human life but it ALSO hurts the woman. Instead of carrying her child for Nine months she ends up carrying an emotional Suitcase with her for the rest of her life. Find a girl that has had an abortion and you will find a girl that has been suicidal, has drug/alcohol abuse problems, sleeping problems, depression and a host of other traumas.
bobbybrady8 2 years ago
The fact is, your full of shit! Keep your fucking agenda away from other people. Women have the right to chose what they want for their bodies, Not you!! I know a couple of people who have had abortions..They are NOT suicidal, have substance abuse problems, sleeping problems or anything else. You and your stupid fucking lying bullshit fairy tale religion can go fuck your god in the ass while I kick jesus in his fucking head you goddamn ignorant fucktard lying piece of shit.
pillowbugg 2 years ago
It would be nice if ONCE an abortion protestor wouldn't mention their God.
SilentSpork 2 years ago 3
@SilentSpork Whether God exists or not isn't relative to abortion. Even agnostics can find they wish to speak for the unborn, so that human rights can apply to ALL, not just those who CAN speak for themselves. Science has advanced since ROE, and it shows Roe was badly decided.Facts are facts,opinions not based on facts should be overturned to reflect facts.Our whole system of justice is based on human rights that one OWNS,& which cannot be TAKEN AWAY by CHOICE of ANY Court.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@SilentSpork And it would be even nicer of pro choice extremists didn't refer to Pro Lifers as "fucktards". At least ONCE in a while, just to "clear the air" a little.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
People who call themselves "Pro-Life" sicken me.
You're nothing but anti-choice.
SeanDeath 2 years ago
The only terrorists at an abortion clinic are the abortionists and the homicidal mothers.
JohnDavidHarrisJr 2 years ago
The only terrorists at an abortion clinic are the christian extremists that want to kill everyone and anyone who doesn't believe in their mythology!! You christians are the most violent arrogant low life's I know. OUTLAW CHRISTIANITY!!!!
pillowbugg 2 years ago
@pillowbugg The few who have gone to extremes and killed abortion doctors are the exceptions that prove the rule. Pro Life movement is peaceful, prayerful,non-violent. Graphic images are giving THOSE children a VOICE they were DENIED because of CHOICE. Protest is legal,protected freedom of speech.Who will speak for YOUR rights if you can't speak for yourself?Human rights can't be taken from some persons without offense of SOMEONE,who may not even BE in the group whose rights are denied .
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@finishstrongdoc If you don't want an abortion, then don't have one. Furthermore, keep your fairytale religion to yourself as well.
pillowbugg 1 year ago
@pillowbugg If you don't like pro lifers don't be one....wait....sorry....you're already NOT pro life.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@pillowbugg Yeah,RIGHT,we're out there "threatening" people with our pictures of Jesus and our Rosaries. If YOUR group's right to life is ever threatened by a bad court decision, we will protest THAT, when they start killing YOUR group, too. We protested murder of Terri Schiavo,cause hers was a test case,as well as the fact that she was a real person who needed someone to speak for her right to life.Your bigoted comments about Christianity should be removed as hate speech.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@SeanDeath Someday YOU might become unable to speak for yourself, and you live in a culture that says it's OK to kill the inconvenient ones. Who will speak for you then? Remember Terri Schiavo? The court ordered she be starved to death because Michael,her husband,wanted to "move on"& marry his live-in lover,plus he wanted to spend $ he'd gotten f/settlement of case of malpractice on Terri.Sometimes others CHOOSE FOR US,and we can't do a thing other than protest.Pro Life speaks FOR the unborn.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
@SeanDeath Someday YOU might become unable to speak for yourself; who will speak for you then? Would someone speaking for your human rights sicken you THEN?
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
Please in all you do... do it in Love! For this is God Greatest Law!
worthyoflove2live4 2 years ago
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How could someone kill there own child. Anyone who agrees with Abortion is a spineless cowardly piece of shit who needs to get there shit together and shut the fuck up. democrats suck!
xcvcxbvzxbxvcbvcbc 2 years ago
Abortion is murder.
Murder is wrong.
A civilized nation would protect innocent pre-born babies from the women who want to kill those innocent pre-born babies by abortion.
OmniNorth 2 years ago
What are you doing to take care of the MILLIONS sufferers actually on the planet?
ragenut2112 2 years ago
More than you.
That noted, there is no justifiable rationale to presume that a baby not wanted by the mother could not be very happily raised by someone else.
Like the father of the baby.
OmniNorth 2 years ago 2
It took you 3 weeks to come up with THAT? LMFAO!! I didn't presume anything. Why do so many pro-lifers assume abortion is PREFERABLE to pro-choicers? It only hurts your cause. I think it's great when abortion is averted. But I also understand that out of the billions of lives that have lived, are living, and will ever live, none will be alike (for better or worse). A woman certainly has more of a right to make that decision for her body than the government. Talk to ya in 3 weeks. LMAO!
ragenut2112 2 years ago
put this in your pipe and smoke it. "Psalm 137:9; 137:9 Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones"
i may be an atheist, but that sounds pretty pro baby killing to me. and as you christians say, "The Lord's word is infallible."
Trevie3 2 years ago
Verses like that are a big part of why I don't believe in the old testament 'god'.
I am for the Right to Life.
OmniNorth 2 years ago
are you saying you pick and choose?
Trevie3 2 years ago 2
Fucking extreamists. They are the ones going to hell. When we can take care of 7 billion people, then maybe they can start to preach about this shit. GO ABORTIONS!!!
AnEndlessObsession 2 years ago
Any pre-born baby is way cooler than you.
OmniNorth 2 years ago
@AnEndlessObsession Your argument that Pro Life groups should fund all unexpected pregnancies that mother's wish to then abort is a bad argument. The anti-slave people didn't buy all the slaves from their masters. Most slaves weren't"for sale".$335,000,000 tax money/yr goes to PLANNED BARRENHOOD:that $ could be spent to fund preg care ctrs.POP CONTROL is a scam,enuf resources to feed the world,but greed,civil wars of hatred of other groups cause famine,despair,failure.
finishstrongdoc 1 year ago
Fuck abortion, religion, groups, and everyothe invincible bull shit belief ppl have
houston81 3 years ago
i can't believe they compared abortion to the holocaust
20NPgirl12 3 years ago
Believe it. They are scum. That cigar guy owns though.
MillsApparatus 2 years ago
slowly religion is leaving this world. one day my dream of a godless minded world will come true. rejoice.
fender50 3 years ago 2
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Many women seeking abortions have also faced harassment, interference, and intimidation at abortion clinics.
Since 1977, there have been more than 45, 000 reported cases of picketing, 400 cases of stalking, 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid
deltaolemissfan 3 years ago
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And, as we are all too well aware, abortion has been at the heart of a political and cultural storm for over 3 decades it has been legally available in the United States—a particularly deadly, ugly situation.
It has left dead in its wake Dr David Gunn, Dr John Bayard Britton, Dr Bernard Slepian, James Barrett, Shannon Lowney, and Leanne Nichols. At least 6 other people have been shot and seriously wounded.
deltaolemissfan 3 years ago
So much for the sanctity of life.....
deltaolemissfan 3 years ago
It appears as if Satan was not happy to see Christians doing God's work. Abortion is the murder of unborn children, read your Bibles. God hates the shedding of innocent blood. God knew us even before we were formed in the womb. Jesus said to let the little children come to Him. Hitler killed people in the name of "ethnic cleansing," black people were slaves because of "labor" babies are killed for the sake of "choice." ABORTION IS MURDER! God bless.
unashamedevangelist 3 years ago
You have never read the Bible?
When the Israelites entered the Promised Land after they fled from Egypt, God instructed them to lay waste the cities and the inhabitants of the region and the slaughter of men, women and children.
Joshua 6:21:
"And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword."
swansandtyphus 3 years ago
fuck those who think that there beliefs that cant apply their beliefs to the 21st century yet think theyre opinions are worth a damn.FUCK YOU
Phillycursed 3 years ago
WHAT IF THE WOMEN ISN'T CHRISTAN?
Then how in any way does that apply to her?!
IT DOESN'T
Stop making a choice for everyone.
Audi6Audi 3 years ago
Stop killing babies.
Life begins at conception.
That is science.
OmniNorth 2 years ago
No!
Audi6Audi 2 years ago
You are a moron
GonzoTheGreat3000 2 years ago
Life DOES NOT begin at conception, you ignorant fuck. Stop preaching false shit that your pastor told you to say you blind sheep follower!! Human embryos have NO central nervous system. They are not human. The cow and pig at the slaughterhouse feel more pain then a human embryo. Go protest there you idiot. OR better yet, protest your fake delusional god for making women miscarriage. There you go you stupid illogical delusional ignorant hypocritical christian fucktard!
pillowbugg 2 years ago
"Human embryos have NO central nervous system. They are not human"
I see, so HUMAN embryos are not HUMAN. That has to be the smartest thing I have ever read on the internet.
Likwidlyric 2 years ago
@Likwidlyric they were mostly in protest of lateterm abortion i think
ughzean 1 year ago
thats equivocation. the word, human, has more than one meaning. its not just the label for a species.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
OK, everyone can have a choice, but the fact that the anti abortion front is enforced but pathetic, weak-minded, arrogant fucking christians and catholics, ruins there credibility. NEWSFLASH: Jesus isnt real, religions are all STORIES. Check out zeitgeist the movie. that ought to set those religous zombies straight
ljarney 3 years ago
religion does make everything look stupid
but i still believe that abortion is murder and completely wrong
i believe a fetus is human being and has as much as rights as i do
and for it to be killed for the mothers convenience is simply selfish
everyone should have a choice to do whatever they want
but once they endanger someone else's life ,
thats when they ought to be put in jail
xxxBxx 3 years ago
i love the enlightened gentleman's logic who wears the striped shirt. "If a woman is raped, kill the rapists child." Makes sense to me! Yeah right. Its not the baby's fault the mother was raped. Its not the tiny human being's fault that half of his/her DNA was shot up into the egg by a rapist! KILL KILL KILL no, we gotta make it sound better....CHOICE CHOICE CHOICE
kosimpson 3 years ago 2
Stand strong in your faith! Abortion must be routed from this country. There is no difference between a baby born and fetus in the womb!
dabrophyguy 3 years ago
I've had three abortions. Like I want kids to ruin my party life style, no time son.
oldcabbage4846177 3 years ago
"They're pushing religion on us". All anti christians and atheist what is wrong with us sharing what we believe. Atheist push their beliefS on us. We aren't violating any human right by presenting the Gospel to you. you can either accept it or reject it. That's freedom of speech and without a God who Sets a moral code, what can you appeal to to call the actions of christian evangelist WRONG?
loepower 3 years ago 2
"without a God who Sets a moral code?"
Aesop's Fables served me well, thanks. And they aren't nearly as vicious, violent and hypocritical as the fables in the Bible.
ragenut2112 2 years ago
Praise God for people like these who have the courage to show the truth!
cogreenetwinsrule 3 years ago
if abortion isnt legal in a country, that country is fucked up
TharekatSH 3 years ago
they get offended because very rarely children are aborted that old!! fuck those pro lifers
ynadisdany 3 years ago
dude if pro choice people get mad at these photos then their contradiciting themselves
nesquick3415 3 years ago 3
THey're angry at the lies of pro-lifers, and their insinuations that these photos are representative of any more than a fraction of one percent of most abortions. :D
eljagg01 3 years ago 2
theyre pro choice, not pro gross. i dont wanna see photos of your gastric bypass; that doesnt mean i want it to be illegal for you to get one. i dont wanna see photos of the dump you took, doesnt mean i want it to be illegal for you to go number 2.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
@Pelonetillo Your comparing gastric bypass to babies lol. Reality sucks and people don't want to see the horrors of what they support, ummmm smacks them in the face. God Bless!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
if they thought it was such a horror, they wouldnt support it. many people dont like to see blood, some even faint. doesnt mean theyre gonna make surgery illegal.
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
Holy shit, those bastards went to Bloomsburg? I'm glad KU isn't the only one that has had to deal with these fuckers.
Shockweed 3 years ago
"I knew u before the womb", God said.
judgment is coming for all of us
dazeycutr 3 years ago 3
@dazeycutr Amen!!!
Bravhrt79 1 year ago
@dazeycutr Not really, jusgment will be coming for you as you are in a judgemental religion
and the people on earth will judge you as a sick replusive twat
trying to make women carry dead babies
being anti gay anti-choice. probably pro-war, pro-death penalty, anti-universal health care, and against the idea that food, clothing and shelter are basic necessities of life.
and that qoute is so interpretational that it is meaningless
pandasftuw 1 year ago
protip: God isn't real.
pbmdh 1 year ago
GOD HATES PEOPLE TELLING HIM WHAT HE HATES
4:00 Dumb girl, did she really thing she looked good going out like that, I mean come on...her face and ass and tits, this is why we go to college fuck sluts. they get abortions. the world turns
fuckyouahahahaha 3 years ago
if i was the reporter interviewing that annoying girl in purple, i would have to wonder: pictures of dead babies are "not okay," but actual dead babies are cool if they mother chooses.
And revolving an issue around Jesus Christ is "not okay," but revolving an issue around fat stupid sluts who got prematurely pregnant is all cool.
i see why Jesus may want a rapture right about now
Frostzone1 3 years ago
Women choose. That pisses men off.
noonesflower 3 years ago
whores murder
dazeycutr 3 years ago