Advanced Wing Tsun Techniques : Wing Tsun Tan Sau & Pak Sau Drills

[YiLuXiangBang]

the description says 'his' wing chun requires speed n reflexes but i tot wing chun was design by ng moi a buddist non and she design dis art mainly for women/people who r small n do nt hav all the physical advantages .. so i guess his wingchun is modified wifout the CHI sau :)

[EnglandJCB]

Come on guys show some respect. Great video

[superpayaseria]

I totally agree.

[thssfull]

Quero me tornar um especialista em Wing Chun

E videos como esse me mostram que existem "n" formas de usar as defesas que eu sei!

Ainda não sei o nome desse sifu mas os videos dele são muito bons : )

[slimshaddy33]

absolute shitt

[barretpaige14]

where is this guy located? How much does it cost for lessons?

[BASTARDUS1MAXIMUS]

These are the Kung Fu instructors in Lopez Tonight. Where's George Lopez?

[MrJoefl]

احلا تمارين يا ريت اعرف اساوي هيك

[naygath]

pretty good... but i think theres nothing "advanced" in these moves...

[HermesDo]

@naygath true.

[rekcufeht]

this video is ridiculous. its like a guy who learned wing chun from a dvd and trying to reenact it

[allen916chen]

Lol this guys is goin into too much complexity. Expert Village is a failure

[erwinsoo2]

whats with all the crap about what is right or wrong. When u are in a real fight, you dont really use so many different moves.

A very fast tan da or pak da at the throat is good enough. Too much theories is not necessarily a good thing

[FinalKenny2]

Martial ART is 90-95% theoretical practice alone, 4-9% practice together to check what you learned and 1-2% realistic combat when it has to come out of your body without thinking, which is the aim of theoretical training.

I have seen multiple tutors or semi-MA that did it in a different way and had a majority of combat. The form ALWAYS slacked off big time, which is crucial when it gets serious.

To you and your opponent. Also or maybe even especially in WT.

[shurednichso]

This is "advanced"? I am sorry,but i trained with my Jet Kune Do master ,which is also a Sifu and he told me that in the first 15 minutes. I agree with the poster below. Not good.

[Fizacks]

PLEASE you uare making the art looks bad... TERRIBLE WTF

[itstam619]

@Fizacks good kung fu does not look good. this is not the movies. gtfo

[preayas]

@Fizacks what???wing chun is not terrible you undersdand!!!

[Jarek1182]

Why are you turning, if her fist is not touching you? IEven your chi dan sau is different :). I was watching your videos and may opinion is only one. IT'S NOT WING TSUN!

I'm learning Wing Tsun (LEUNG TING) and this movements which you're showing, there are unacceptable in my school in Poland, Hungary and Hong Kong! In WT center line is hide if you know what I'm meaning? Keep practice and change name Wing Tsun on something different. Sorry about my english. Regards.

[Shindai]

I'm a newb at wing chun still so just want to check to see if I know anything yet - is his bong sau collapsed from the start, and does his pak sau just push, rather than sharply slap, and passed his centerline that would make it easy to trap his arm? May just be the angle, not trying to be negative, it may just be differences in training. Thanks for replies

[hightower6969]

I don't like his hand placement behind the bong sau. It is too close to his bong and the opponent can trap both arms.

[ryler05]

watch master wongs wc he's great

[heartslord]

Ving Tsun requires certain basics. One is Chung Chi or forward energy. One does not push or lead the opponent AND oneself off the centerline.

Two, one should never turn the body off as the VT advantage of two hands available to strike and control is meant to be ALWAYS present.

This is a well intended presentation but it is very much an incorrect and flawed beginners understanding of VT.

This is why a qualified sifu is important... and hard to find.

[pts99]

WT and WC is 2 separate styles of kung fu. you CANT compare them to each other. i dont know what VT is (probably some kind of soap).

[GUFF21]

WC and WT are very distinct. This is a good representation of why WT students don't practice drills like this. She's too far away to hit him and we don't turn unless the oponnent turns us!

[trondyne]

Feeds the turn crazy nature of Ting's kung-fu...  The turning has it's place but it isn't ever present--the opponent will turn you.... ;)

[snedsmif]

ive just realised from the distance apart they are standing he could drop his arms by his side and she still wouldnt hit him in the face the best part of any martial art is actually trying to punch your instructor as hard as you can in the face is also funny how you never come out on top

[ciogon]

:))))what a crap...im sure i could make a hole thru his chest if i were there///

[anthonyr1]

wow this guy looks and sounds like keanu reeves.

[backflash22]

It's my personal belief that there are many ways to approach WC/WT/VT. I'm not an expert so perhaps I'm missing what others considers obvious errors here but I prefer not to judge the effectiveness of a particular style until I actually can get a direct experience of it through sticky hands with the practicioner.

[zoolkhan]

more things to pay attantion to:

turns - he turns actively, more than needed because

she is not giving him a real reason to turn, no force behind her attacks.

feet position - when he turns, the forefoot overdoes the turn - he is exposing his fore knew, and groins and his body is varying in the heights (watch the head/shoulders during turn)

fist rest on shoulder

when he punch his apprecntice

he is resting his fist arm on her shoulder, this is an

often seen bad habit

[sloppymantis]

I think I'd have a hard time being proficient if I was practicing with this girl.. she is just too hot.. the hottest girl ever born AND practices kung fu which just pushes her hotness over the edge into the abyss of eternal awesomeness

[Porce1ain]

Spot on. A shift is a response to pressure, a passive response. Here it's active, which I don't agree with.

[Bruto910R]

Nice video, I start WT this year and this video can help me to remember the chinese tech. name, thanx.

[backflash22]

Dude this is only chisao not fighting application.

[zoolkhan]

so what? what you do wrong in training, you do wrong on the streets. chisao is a drill - and you need to do teh drill right, oderwise the "reflexes" you try to "implant"

will not have the desired success chance in combat.

This teacher seem to pay more attantion to his dress than to the art.

[zoolkhan]

sides, this is not chi-sao. there is no "tactile" feeling involved aparrantly - all movements appear to be active -

contact is lost in between. lets call it lat-sao, drill.

or like the original author called it.

[ting1895]

Yo ! Thats no WT , thats something else I

dont know.......

[zoolkhan]

This wing chun is not the best i have seen.

If you tan/bong-deflect the opponents force

to the sides, as you are showing here

then you will die fast against a real wing chun

opponent who respects the centerline instead of teaching the exact opposite.

with all due respect, tear down the wall around you and meet with other WT/WC masters of other branches. You can only benefit from that exchange.

best regads

[kotegash]

sure - but no one is going to learn wing chun from youtube. The way he is explaining it is GREAT for beginers or someone intrested in the art. Dont hate :)

[zoolkhan]

search for dragos WT if you want to see excellent explaining paired with quality techniques. I do not hate - i just think that the unaware noobie doesnt run away from here with the believe "this is it? hahahah".

No this is not it. However, no hate involved

i wish this teacher and his school all the best. After all we all develop until we die, him included.

[stardust005]

You're an idiot wannabe. It is inherently advantageous to deflect rather than meet with force. Obviously you know nothing about wing chun, or even the basic physics of human hand to hand combat. Get into a real fight, and you'll quickly LEARN what the difference between blocking and parrying is.  The centerline is strictly in regards to attack, and even that isn't a rigid rule, but a GUIDELINE by which you develop your style. If a chance for a round strike occurs, it is natural to take it.

[zoolkhan]

you did not read my post carefully.

i said "If you tan/bong-deflect the opponents force

to the sides, as you are showing here"

meeting with force is even worse than defelection to sides

that is true. but that doesnt rule out that there is an even better way - the way of not altering the attackers vector at all, but move yourself out of the way while contolling the arm and working along centerline.

I dont think pers. insult make you appear smart or kompetent.