David Icke is just stating a simple paranoid state of thinking and trying to manipulate simple minds that are in a state that needs a voice to create a sort of reason to keep them thinking what they do and justify they're reasoning's.
@DugDougieDug If our minds were simple, then we wouldn't be here. David Icke discusses is on multiple levels and it takes a very open mind to be able to grasp what he's trying to get across to you. The so-called 'normal' way of thinking involves getting an office job, getting married, kids, mortgage, white picket fence, a minivan, the milk van, the wacky neighbor, et cetera, and it's all a gigantic illusion that America chases. It's like trying to catch a dream.
@DugDougieDug Yea quite the opposite. If a simple mind cause grasp this, then i'd hate to know how dull the majority of people really are... but then again, it's quite obvious isn't it.
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everything else aside his closing statement is right on. right now bin laden and his crew of nuclear field-mice are still hiding at the bottom of my garden and i'm terrified. they better keep eroding civil liberties worldwide or bin laden could rig 3 more buildings to blow from his cave in fairy land? I SWEAR many people are SO HYPNOTISED they just can't see and worse refuse to even question the BULLSHIT politics, the media.
If you know that you have European royalty in your genealogy, as I know I have, does that mean you come from the bloodline they want? Why I am just a normal, middle-class American. Doesn't everyone in this world somehow descend from royalty? I am a very compassionate person, probably why I ended up such a strong Christian is because of my compassion (although I agree with some of the comments David made about religion actually just as a front).
This guy is so fucking smart! I have been thinking this way for very long long time, especially during the last 7 years that I spent in America, but I never know how to describe the way I think - how to put that in a short and direct wording. Feel like that this guy is speaking my words!
From the research that Ive done. I believe that they're are different 'races' in the Annunaki species, just like there are in the human species. I believe that the Reptilian race happens to be one of those species.
I wouldnt rule out other space races (lycreans, Melchadekins etc...) intermingling with the Annunaki in they're quest to control/rule Terra (Earth).
not quite, the nephilim are men who had this different blood in their veins, and genetics. although it is considered by people who speak about similar things here (michael tsarion, for instance) that every one of us has this "reptilian" DNA more or less. don´t worry, even if we had, epigenetic research and new (not so new, actually, known for decades) research in cellular biology shows that DNA does not "control" your life and that you can rewrite your genetic code in special circumstances
Quick question because ppl keep asking me this. We have heard many times before that the queen isnt supposed to be queen, and that she is not part of the real blood line. Some other family are supposed to be the royals. How does this fit in with Davids bloodline stuff? I cant explain to people that reptiles impregnated different people from another dimension...
really the 'opening of the files' thing is a bit like people opening their third eye, only in their case the reptilian DNA gives them negative capabilities, whereas the third eye is more neutral; it can be used to communicate with the divine or demons...whichever the person chooses to
If one meditates apon it, he/she/it shall begin to trace bloodline by familiarizing oneself with the characteristic energy of.. we can read people in a whole new light.
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magna carta; No it isn't possible. Your DNA codes for the proteins and enzymes that control cellular biochemistry. You have the same DNA all your life (with a small number of mutations per generation). You're stuck with the DNA that your parents gave you. However, this will change as the science of Genetic Engineering progresses. And of course your DNA is not the only thing affecting your life.
By the way, ignore anything that Icke says about DNA, it is total unsupported bullshit.
I really do not understand why people like the royal family. They are there simply because of dna, if it were different then maybe the "queen" would be cleaning the throne rather than sitting on it. The royals do naff all apart from sit around all day moaning.
I've always felt the same way, but good thing we don't have a royal family here in the states. It's stupid to give special privelages to a group just because of their dna.
yep, I used to kind of look up to them but not anymore. think of the sheer poverty of most places around the world in comparison to the palaces of royalty- for no other reason than genetics. Also, how rich the Catholic church is too
@itokio1337 people idolize those that possess what they want. most people would love to have money and power like the royal family. why do people read tabloids?
great stuff, listen too this man he aint bull s .hes researched this for over 18yrs and knows what hes talking about.i mean really people ,something aint right, we all know it and more and more people are waking up to it ,not every1 will becoz there in so deep ,so deep into there box that they totally believe the lie,im so glad im aware ,WAKE UP PEOPLE....
At first i thought David Icke was totally bullshit and some of the things that he says i still think is bullshit, but the more and more i do my research the more and more i find out that what hes saying is the truth...
Icke is also talking good information but the deal with Collier is he is the "dynamite case"... He also has the very negative information.. much more negative than what Icke has shared or what Icke knows.. I believe you don't get to know the whole picture if you're not a contactee. You can always research things like Icke has done but the most disturbing things you can't find. You must be contacted to know it.
If it's really true you met him it's good to know cause all these people, contactees etc... who on a general level are talking about same things like Icke and Collier, must somehow unite their information.. Maybe they could arrange an interview or a lecture together?
it's a common perception that most animals are not very intelligent because they don't speak any human languages, and I used to think this, but think of the sheer range of languages even in the human world. there's no reason why animals should learn our language; they have their own methods of communication. plus, many animals while possessing weaker eyesight have stronger sense of hearing, smell etc...
and many animals, who are supposedly less intelligent, have stronger senses of hearing, for instance bats...therefore in terms of sound they're aware of a lot more than us humans...
something tells me. in the end, mr ike is going to be laughing (at the skeptics), because every thing he has told the world is true or incredibly close to it.
How and where did you met him? I thought Collier doesn't do many public appearences.. Did he said anything new regarding the bad ETs? Collier is writing Defending Sacred Ground II.. Do you know when will it be ready?
As Collier himself said in his lecture in 2008: "All my information is in internet for free, I don't own the material. I just volunteered to deliver the message".
I never claimed to be more intelligent than the Illuminati. Nor did I imply it.
You are making the false assumption that the Illuminati is somehow incapable of making mistakes. You act as if they are perfect. They aren't. Nobody is. Especially not those assholes. They can't cover up everything they do.
Well, don't you think it is a bit strange that they are planning to control minds with implants or what not, but can't even kill someone subtley. If they are able to manipulate genes in real time, they could surely give someone cancer (a very easy mutation to make).
I have read The David Icke Guide To The Global Whatsit, and I saw him live in Oxford union. He is a coward btw. He didn't take questions as it would make him look stupid on his DVD.
Good point about how one error doesn't mean all work is erronious, reminds me of Newton...
However!:
a) You must suspect anyconspiracy theory that has supposedly been hidden for ages but suddenly has a lot of evidence for it.
b) Icke is a dishonest moron. You can smell it on him.
c) When your conspiracy theory is met with derision and mockery, it may be because everyone is brainwashed, but this implies that minds can be bent, and so it may be yours that has been bent, and YOU WOULDN'T KNOW!
I can open up a college history book and point out multiple falacies being presented as truths. That doesn't change the fact that there is a still truth within the text.
Have you read David Icke's books? Let me guess. You're one of these skeptics that draws conclusions without looking at his argument fully.
That reminds me a fundamentalist Christian that refuses to put down a Bible and pick up a textbook. Only the Bible in this case is your college textbook and the tb is Icke's work.
What is your point? I don't agree with every aspect of Icke's research. He is only one researcher amongst many others. I'm sure that there are a lot of falacies presented in his work. However, there is also a lot of truth. Just because you demonstrate one flaw in his research (which I'm not sure that you have) doesn't denote the legitmate aspects of his research.
You're the one drawing ignorant conclusions on a subject that you clearly haven't spent more than 5 minutes researching.
Me debating you on this subject is like an evolutionary biologist debating a creationist. It doesn't matter how much evidence I present. You'll just keep on denying it and worshipping your false paradigm in blissful ignorance.
I prefer to take a look at everything before drawing a conclusion. Fucking morons like you draw bullshit conclusions based on limited evidence.
I didn't see you had written these 3 posts, I beg your pardon. My comment still stands, though.
"All of the evidence shows he was murdered. I'm not drawing conclusions on anything."
Do you quite understand what a conclusion is?
You have evidence showing that there is an elite organisation of super-advanced shape shifting demi-gods. Even suspending disbelief, assuming they exist, you don't think that they would be clever enough not to, say, leave strangle marks?
You say I ignore your evidence but you haven't begun to address my qualms with the Ickian viewpoint on science, particularly Quantum Mechs and Genetics. You IGNORED my comments. I HAVE made a response to your evidence. I will reiterate, even quoting your comment as an example of the fallacious logic, so you can't say I ignored the logic.
"The judge was forced to throw out the case because they had absolutely no evidence to back up their charges."
So the illuminati can't even make false evidence? They sound incredibly advanced.
*conclusive sigh*
Basically, I am saying that, whatever evidence you have, it cancels itself out because THEY WOULDN'T LEAVE EVIDENCE! You can mock my "paradigm", and swear, but the thing is, I really don't care if you do, and I have the scientific community with me (unlike creationists).
All of the evidence shows he was murdered. I'm not drawing conclusions on anything.
Dean Warwick was a former US intelligence insider. He was voicing his support for David Icke leading up to his bizarre death.
Fritz Springmeier was jailed under false charges by the FBI for writing books about the reptilians. The judge was forced to throw out the case because they had absolutely no evidence to back up their charges.
Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment in Jan. 1996. He was lecturing on the subject of malevolent reptilian and gray ETs that are running our governments for 2 years prior to his death.
Schneider's former wife has multiple letters from him saying that someone is going to kill him for speaking on these subjects. He said that if anyone claimed he committed suicide that it would be false.
The police claimed his death was a stroke. They lied. He had strangle marks around his neck.
Regardless of his political points, Icke is clearly wrong from is pseudo-scientific rambling about vibrations and his misinterpretation of DNA, quantum physics, and more or less anything that sounds clever that he can piggyback on.
A typical Icke-ism was when he said: "People ask me how people can transform into reptilians and back, but recent research shows that DNA can be expressed in different ways". QED. He's crazy until his science remotely agrees with that of a scientist.
riiiiight because scientists are never wrong and are omnipotent. if Icke was a scientist or had a lab coat on with degrees behind him you'd swallow every last bit of what he said. since you're so smart and intellectual, why don't you read his books where he breaks down the specific science and study it, deciding for yourself???
Do you not understand that certain DNA sequences can remain dormant until activated? Modern science only understands 1-5% of DNA, the other 90some % they call junk
I can tell you worship modern science as the gold standard of truth for the universe which is sadly misguided. Many civilizations in the ancient world, including shamans and mystics, knew the nature of reality and were much more advanced than 'modern technology' will ever be. Modern technology cannot replicate the Pyramids in Egypt because we can't find a way to lift such heavy stones. So saying that because 'modern science' isn't saying what David is, he's automatically wrong is retarded.
do you know about "morgellons disease" which is a sci-fi horror dis-ease, and highly contagious... spread the word. see the youtube vid "morgellons indonesia" for starters...
Don't think that because there's a human genome project that we somehow as a civilization fully understand every aspect of DNA. Do scientists and investigators simply dismiss ideas??? No they investigate and research, perhaps you should do the same. My guess is that you don't really about the topic, you just want to shout down Icke because he's not spouting the Dogmatic belief in modern science.
I have read several of Icke's books, I have seen him live and I have seen that his use of science is spurious and flawed. We could build the pyramids, even without slave labour. The Stones aren't THAT heavy. Heavier things have been moved to build modern buildings.
My point about the DNA was that even if 90% was to lie dormant (which is not true btw) then if it was expressed it would be expressed like all other DNA, i.e. one protein at a time by ribosomes.
This would mean that there would be no transforming as Icke suggests.
I am not a biologist, so this doesn't annoy me as much as his rape of quantum theory to support his hippy-dippy views on the nature of reality. He seems to have heard of de Broglie wavelength at some point and is flogging it to death. I won't go into why he is wrong, as he doesn't make any actual assertions, he just uses the words to dramatic effect in fallacious ways.
What he does do though is use scientific research (wrongly, mind) but then go on about how Big Brother stops people researching these things.
Addressing your comments that were directed at me regarding my trust of modern science: I pride myself of being open-minded to the extent that I do not take things as being true unles I am given sufficient evidence to persuade me. My understanding of the physics that Icke misuses is backed up by derivations that no reptilian overlords could fake.
Until Icke starts using effective experimentation and mathematical derivations (which are a necessity if his use of the word "frequency" is to be taken seriously) he is a hippy nutcase. Not all innovators in science have degrees, but I think you'll find they've all done some actual science at some point.
yep, ironically while Icke isn't qualified as a quantum physicist he knows a hell of a lot more about it than most. As to the junk DNA, apparently fluoride damages your pituitary gland (third eye), although other things can help recover it...
People have died to get information regarding reptilians across to the public. If you have never heard of their existence you have no business commented on this subject. These aren't David Icke's theories. He is repeating the work of others that came before him.
How do you explain all the mysterious deaths surrounding these heroes?
Well christ, if the illuminati can kill multidimensional beings like those guys then why do you risk your lives agreeing with the paradoxically alive David Icke? He's probably only alive as he uses his SHAMANISTIC MIND POWERS to defend himself. I don't have MIND POWERS, and neither do you, so we should be subservient!
Better under the heel of a Jack boot than underground.
David Icke was a public figure prior to discussing reptilian shapeshifters. It would be a little too obvious if they killed him. This should be obvious.
The fact of the matter is that there are too many people who know of their existence. There is nothing they can do about it. Soon they'll be forced to leave this planet.
You mean we stoled their planet? Well WE are the baddies then! Where can they go to? why can't we GET ALONG!
The people who "know" of their existence are also exactly the type of people who are not taken seriously by anyone but each other. Therein lies the problem. And seriously, Icke would be easy to kill, as he is an overweight old former drug user. And he avoids modern medicine. EASY KILL.
It would validate his claims if they killed him. They won't touch him. It wouldn't be an easy kill at all. It would be absurd for them to kill Icke.
Somebody like Phil Schneider was easy to kill because nobody knew who he was prior to making his claims. Dean Warwick was about to voice his support of David Icke in 2006. He dropped dead on stage 10 minutes into a speech he was giving on this very subject.
Why do people who support what Icke says mysteriously die? Must be some truth to it.
Well, I wouldn't say that Schneider dying during a speech at a dramatic moment was a subtle murder. If they are unsubtle enough to kill him, tis a tiny step further to kill Icke.
Also, YOU know he died. YOU suspect a murder. The reptilioids are clearly very inept... unless you conspiracy theorists are just genii and can uncover these secrets that were so well hidden that the rest of the world didn't.
Let me rephrase: YOU know the details surrounding the deaths. YOU suspect foul play. YOU therefore imply that you are more intelligent than the illuminati.
I am not inclined to believe that an organisation could control the world if it can't even kill a guy without a bunch of hippies solving the riddle.
@revilo314 what are u talking about...string theory talks about vibrations and much more... lets hear what ur theories are old wise one.............please... he has done his research...and maybe the hippies were on to something..better a hippie than a evil destructive corporate government loving psychopath
String theory DOES talk about vibrations yes. But David icke is talking about macroscopic mechanical vibrations which are about as related as Music and Lasers.
Also, string theory is likely to be discredited. this isn't really a big deal for you as it has yet to affect your life, but the current scientific trend is against it.
@83Pindi My theories come from: The Feynmann Lectures on Physics - Feynmann Thermodynamics - Blundell and Blundell Mathematics for scientists and engineers - Riley, Hobson and Bence Optics - Hecht Particle Physics - Martin and Shaw Relativity - Ripley Quantum Physics - Bohr and Mottelson QED - Feynmann Quantum Mechanics - Messiah And many more, including the hundreds of papers I have saved on my hard-drive. Read these, and then we can talk about physics.
i agree but i desagree in other way. because the queen of england is not so beautiful at all so that tells me one thing that they are not royal at all.. and they are not so divine at all.. the royal family could believe that they are divine by the blood line but doesn't mean it's true .. and they are not so pure at all. maybe they are pure of evil now that i could believe it ..
i have mental problems myself, ive been in a psychiatric place for 3 months. and ive seen all kinds of mentally ill people. This guy is just a "deja vu" to me. It's typical to search and aquire conspiracy theories when in reality the truth is close to what a normal man suggests. If it wasnt for what David Icke is suggesting he would find something else instead. He will naturally look up for another conspiracy theory. And if everything was known, Icke will still look up for illusional bullshit.
The "Ike is a shill disinfo agent" crap videos... notice how there is NO direct refute or proof to back it up. NONE! Its like calling someone a Hollow Co$t denier because they who scraped the walls at these concentration camps found zero (ZERO!) Cyclon B in the rooms where these supposed gassings took place. Reptilians you say? Why were so many ancient cultures fixated on these half man/reptiles??? Last I checked 2000 years ago they weren't watching Star Trek. RESEARCH what Icke is saying.
Wrong! DNA doesn't work like that in homo sapiens. There is no Alpha and Beta in humanity. These people have just kept all the toys. They have also claimed decendence from non-existant gods. They are just corrupted by the power over people. They suck!
that was definitely part of it, that museum had some irreplaceable ancient artifacts and knowledge there. HAD some of the oldest stuff in the world (whatever Britain didnt keep)
Perfect vehicles for this mind manipulation channelling are the mentally disabled/handicapped and those with brain damage. The Doctors no doubt draw extra blood for this purpose. I have asked the phlebotomist what this and that is for and they do not have answers for every one. I wonder if donating plasma puts you on their grid?
I suppose this is the same as what we have always been warned of as in the cases of "The Devil made me do it", and "Demons will possess you", "Don't listen to satan, he is just trying to mislead you." I know people that through trials and tribulations, anxiety, stress, frustration, anger, fights, arguements, etc. that HAVE changed their vibrational frequency and become a different 'soul'. So much so that their eyes, speach, grammer, demeaner, attitude, thought processes are from another entity.
There is no equality in a Draconian hierarchy!
The Queen rules the hive and the slaves must do her bidding.
SovereignBeing 5 months ago
Very helpful.
quicklyitgoesby 7 months ago
Squarepusher! doing the interview?
Tbomb7771 1 year ago
David Icke is just stating a simple paranoid state of thinking and trying to manipulate simple minds that are in a state that needs a voice to create a sort of reason to keep them thinking what they do and justify they're reasoning's.
DugDougieDug 1 year ago
@DugDougieDug If our minds were simple, then we wouldn't be here. David Icke discusses is on multiple levels and it takes a very open mind to be able to grasp what he's trying to get across to you. The so-called 'normal' way of thinking involves getting an office job, getting married, kids, mortgage, white picket fence, a minivan, the milk van, the wacky neighbor, et cetera, and it's all a gigantic illusion that America chases. It's like trying to catch a dream.
bigAshizzle 1 year ago 2
@DugDougieDug Yea quite the opposite. If a simple mind cause grasp this, then i'd hate to know how dull the majority of people really are... but then again, it's quite obvious isn't it.
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affluenceclm 1 year ago
misleading
DmitriSochlioukov 1 year ago
He makes it up as he goes along for crying out loud!
beetzart77 1 year ago
very good interesting stuff.
The truth shall prevail, in the end, we shall reckon our own actions and those people who are advocates of the right shall see them who are advocates of evil. And there shall be distinguishment of the ultimate. non human, non god, non local entity of the begginning.
scheming8rythem 1 year ago
you can bring light into a dark room, But you CAN NOT bring darkness into a room full of light and love and wisdom and knowledge..so on...
methodology7 1 year ago
David Icke definitelly makes life seem to be much more interesting...
makfeo 1 year ago 2
@makfeo lol i think thats because his passion rubs off
bay751 1 year ago
everything else aside his closing statement is right on. right now bin laden and his crew of nuclear field-mice are still hiding at the bottom of my garden and i'm terrified. they better keep eroding civil liberties worldwide or bin laden could rig 3 more buildings to blow from his cave in fairy land? I SWEAR many people are SO HYPNOTISED they just can't see and worse refuse to even question the BULLSHIT politics, the media.
JDurden33 1 year ago
i feel that Icke grabs at the unknown, and then pretends he knows. that way, its very difficult to question what he says
phishUMup 1 year ago
America has a database for "crime", but it wasn't even used to solve rape cases for years, it still might no be used for it.
newbetterandhappy 1 year ago
@newbetterandhappy not true
makfeo 1 year ago
If you know that you have European royalty in your genealogy, as I know I have, does that mean you come from the bloodline they want? Why I am just a normal, middle-class American. Doesn't everyone in this world somehow descend from royalty? I am a very compassionate person, probably why I ended up such a strong Christian is because of my compassion (although I agree with some of the comments David made about religion actually just as a front).
spreadthegospel 1 year ago
That's what I thaught!
nir8vana 1 year ago
I wanna be like him when I grow up haha!!
RebelOnetimeRIH 2 years ago
This guy is so fucking smart! I have been thinking this way for very long long time, especially during the last 7 years that I spent in America, but I never know how to describe the way I think - how to put that in a short and direct wording. Feel like that this guy is speaking my words!
Alextube30yahoo 2 years ago
From the research that Ive done. I believe that they're are different 'races' in the Annunaki species, just like there are in the human species. I believe that the Reptilian race happens to be one of those species.
I wouldnt rule out other space races (lycreans, Melchadekins etc...) intermingling with the Annunaki in they're quest to control/rule Terra (Earth).
pmsan29 2 years ago
Reptilians=Biblical Nephilim
pmsan29 2 years ago
You mean the same stolen story from the Sumerians?
HybridD91 2 years ago
not quite, the nephilim are men who had this different blood in their veins, and genetics. although it is considered by people who speak about similar things here (michael tsarion, for instance) that every one of us has this "reptilian" DNA more or less. don´t worry, even if we had, epigenetic research and new (not so new, actually, known for decades) research in cellular biology shows that DNA does not "control" your life and that you can rewrite your genetic code in special circumstances
NastyGreaser 1 year ago
Quick question because ppl keep asking me this. We have heard many times before that the queen isnt supposed to be queen, and that she is not part of the real blood line. Some other family are supposed to be the royals. How does this fit in with Davids bloodline stuff? I cant explain to people that reptiles impregnated different people from another dimension...
MrStiffi1990 2 years ago
David Icke is the MAN even with the reptilian theory (I may not embrace it totally but its definitely a possibility).
kallenfranchise 2 years ago
really the 'opening of the files' thing is a bit like people opening their third eye, only in their case the reptilian DNA gives them negative capabilities, whereas the third eye is more neutral; it can be used to communicate with the divine or demons...whichever the person chooses to
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Bill Cooper dead, David Icke still alive, strange?
rmggautama 2 years ago
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Ignore anything that Icke says about DNA, it is totally unsupported bullshit.
indie3 2 years ago
1) DNA is not as powerful as previously believed check out epigenetics.
2) Epigenetics says that environment causes activation of genes.
Give them an environment where they're not capable of dealing with.
Additionally, tight bloodlines suffer from inbreeding, and a limited genetic diversity.
These are some of their Achiles' heels.
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enniopat 2 years ago
If one meditates apon it, he/she/it shall begin to trace bloodline by familiarizing oneself with the characteristic energy of.. we can read people in a whole new light.
Milkmadness 2 years ago
Its more likely they are brainwashed going into these secret societies than the claim dormant genetics are the cause of change.
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magna carta; No it isn't possible. Your DNA codes for the proteins and enzymes that control cellular biochemistry. You have the same DNA all your life (with a small number of mutations per generation). You're stuck with the DNA that your parents gave you. However, this will change as the science of Genetic Engineering progresses. And of course your DNA is not the only thing affecting your life.
By the way, ignore anything that Icke says about DNA, it is total unsupported bullshit.
indie3 2 years ago
I really do not understand why people like the royal family. They are there simply because of dna, if it were different then maybe the "queen" would be cleaning the throne rather than sitting on it. The royals do naff all apart from sit around all day moaning.
itokio1337 2 years ago 25
I've always felt the same way, but good thing we don't have a royal family here in the states. It's stupid to give special privelages to a group just because of their dna.
camreeno360 2 years ago
We do.
It's called Hollywood.
XxVizzinixX 2 years ago 5
lmao
Colt2571 1 year ago
yep, I used to kind of look up to them but not anymore. think of the sheer poverty of most places around the world in comparison to the palaces of royalty- for no other reason than genetics. Also, how rich the Catholic church is too
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
apparently Prince Charles (European royal family) even has someone to brush his teeth...
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
@itokio1337 people idolize those that possess what they want. most people would love to have money and power like the royal family. why do people read tabloids?
phishUMup 1 year ago
@itokio1337 Except Princess Diana, naturally! ;D)
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is david a double agent???
desalpha2007 2 years ago
no.although there are plenty out there
nickjerv 2 years ago
great stuff, listen too this man he aint bull s .hes researched this for over 18yrs and knows what hes talking about.i mean really people ,something aint right, we all know it and more and more people are waking up to it ,not every1 will becoz there in so deep ,so deep into there box that they totally believe the lie,im so glad im aware ,WAKE UP PEOPLE....
davidxxxesp1 2 years ago
Very great talk from david!!I hope alot of people will hear this!!!
DMCpro6944 2 years ago
At first i thought David Icke was totally bullshit and some of the things that he says i still think is bullshit, but the more and more i do my research the more and more i find out that what hes saying is the truth...
xxmomoxx1 2 years ago 2
is it possible to totally transcend your inherited Genetics?.
What do you think?.
MagnaCarta2015 2 years ago
Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant.
dyingtodeath 2 years ago
Brilliant.
rjnovac 2 years ago
Wow this was interesting. I remember my Mom telling me months ago that Mugabe was actually a great president when he first took office.
VolcanicPenguin 2 years ago
jokingly mentioned not to tell anyone he was there, otherwise a croud might form,
HE should have been the one I was in line to see, but it was so cool to look over and see Alex standing there
slimjim1389 2 years ago
Icke is also talking good information but the deal with Collier is he is the "dynamite case"... He also has the very negative information.. much more negative than what Icke has shared or what Icke knows.. I believe you don't get to know the whole picture if you're not a contactee. You can always research things like Icke has done but the most disturbing things you can't find. You must be contacted to know it.
zoogarten 2 years ago
So was Collier in US or in GB or where?
If it's really true you met him it's good to know cause all these people, contactees etc... who on a general level are talking about same things like Icke and Collier, must somehow unite their information.. Maybe they could arrange an interview or a lecture together?
zoogarten 2 years ago
i wish
Constavlos 2 years ago
the reptilian thing dosen't look so crazy after you do some research.
djbjam 3 years ago 2
The world is much more complicated than we can possibly percieve at this state in consciousness. That is why all of our senses all have ranges.
SimplyThinkDreams 3 years ago 20
very very true
AstralBeings 3 years ago
u mean the universe!!
Zecalran 2 years ago
Actually, I meant the multiverse!!
SimplyThinkDreams 2 years ago
it's a common perception that most animals are not very intelligent because they don't speak any human languages, and I used to think this, but think of the sheer range of languages even in the human world. there's no reason why animals should learn our language; they have their own methods of communication. plus, many animals while possessing weaker eyesight have stronger sense of hearing, smell etc...
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
and many animals, who are supposedly less intelligent, have stronger senses of hearing, for instance bats...therefore in terms of sound they're aware of a lot more than us humans...
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
@SimplyThinkDreams Well said good sir.
Blainne1 1 year ago
something tells me. in the end, mr ike is going to be laughing (at the skeptics), because every thing he has told the world is true or incredibly close to it.
hjaeko 3 years ago
Alex Collier (UFO contactee) also talks about the reptilians.
Three Alex Collier lectures can be ordered from TeslaTech. These lectures took place at the Global Sciences Congress in 1996 and 2002.
1996 (August) lecture:
"The Andromedans - Connection to our past"
2002 lectures:
"Whispers of the past"
"Defending sacred ground among the stars (Part 1)"
"Defending sacred ground among the stars (Part 2)"
(WorldWideWeb)(DOT)teslatech(D OT)info/ttstore/conftapes/glob al/gblframe(DOT)htm
zoogarten 3 years ago
cool I'll check these out, I got to meet him 2 days ago and he seems to be a pretty nice guy
slimjim1389 2 years ago
How and where did you met him? I thought Collier doesn't do many public appearences.. Did he said anything new regarding the bad ETs? Collier is writing Defending Sacred Ground II.. Do you know when will it be ready?
zoogarten 2 years ago
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slimjim1389 2 years ago 3
You can read the book for free, just google it.
As Collier himself said in his lecture in 2008: "All my information is in internet for free, I don't own the material. I just volunteered to deliver the message".
zoogarten 2 years ago
I never claimed to be more intelligent than the Illuminati. Nor did I imply it.
You are making the false assumption that the Illuminati is somehow incapable of making mistakes. You act as if they are perfect. They aren't. Nobody is. Especially not those assholes. They can't cover up everything they do.
How could they?
theylive123 3 years ago 2
Well, don't you think it is a bit strange that they are planning to control minds with implants or what not, but can't even kill someone subtley. If they are able to manipulate genes in real time, they could surely give someone cancer (a very easy mutation to make).
I have read The David Icke Guide To The Global Whatsit, and I saw him live in Oxford union. He is a coward btw. He didn't take questions as it would make him look stupid on his DVD.
revilo314 3 years ago
Good point about how one error doesn't mean all work is erronious, reminds me of Newton...
However!:
a) You must suspect anyconspiracy theory that has supposedly been hidden for ages but suddenly has a lot of evidence for it.
b) Icke is a dishonest moron. You can smell it on him.
c) When your conspiracy theory is met with derision and mockery, it may be because everyone is brainwashed, but this implies that minds can be bent, and so it may be yours that has been bent, and YOU WOULDN'T KNOW!
revilo314 3 years ago
I can open up a college history book and point out multiple falacies being presented as truths. That doesn't change the fact that there is a still truth within the text.
Have you read David Icke's books? Let me guess. You're one of these skeptics that draws conclusions without looking at his argument fully.
That reminds me a fundamentalist Christian that refuses to put down a Bible and pick up a textbook. Only the Bible in this case is your college textbook and the tb is Icke's work.
theylive123 3 years ago
What is your point? I don't agree with every aspect of Icke's research. He is only one researcher amongst many others. I'm sure that there are a lot of falacies presented in his work. However, there is also a lot of truth. Just because you demonstrate one flaw in his research (which I'm not sure that you have) doesn't denote the legitmate aspects of his research.
theylive123 3 years ago
You're the one drawing ignorant conclusions on a subject that you clearly haven't spent more than 5 minutes researching.
Me debating you on this subject is like an evolutionary biologist debating a creationist. It doesn't matter how much evidence I present. You'll just keep on denying it and worshipping your false paradigm in blissful ignorance.
I prefer to take a look at everything before drawing a conclusion. Fucking morons like you draw bullshit conclusions based on limited evidence.
theylive123 3 years ago
Don't swear, dear.
I didn't see you had written these 3 posts, I beg your pardon. My comment still stands, though.
"All of the evidence shows he was murdered. I'm not drawing conclusions on anything."
Do you quite understand what a conclusion is?
You have evidence showing that there is an elite organisation of super-advanced shape shifting demi-gods. Even suspending disbelief, assuming they exist, you don't think that they would be clever enough not to, say, leave strangle marks?
revilo314 3 years ago 2
You say I ignore your evidence but you haven't begun to address my qualms with the Ickian viewpoint on science, particularly Quantum Mechs and Genetics. You IGNORED my comments. I HAVE made a response to your evidence. I will reiterate, even quoting your comment as an example of the fallacious logic, so you can't say I ignored the logic.
revilo314 3 years ago
"The judge was forced to throw out the case because they had absolutely no evidence to back up their charges."
So the illuminati can't even make false evidence? They sound incredibly advanced.
*conclusive sigh*
Basically, I am saying that, whatever evidence you have, it cancels itself out because THEY WOULDN'T LEAVE EVIDENCE! You can mock my "paradigm", and swear, but the thing is, I really don't care if you do, and I have the scientific community with me (unlike creationists).
QED
revilo314 3 years ago
All of the evidence shows he was murdered. I'm not drawing conclusions on anything.
Dean Warwick was a former US intelligence insider. He was voicing his support for David Icke leading up to his bizarre death.
Fritz Springmeier was jailed under false charges by the FBI for writing books about the reptilians. The judge was forced to throw out the case because they had absolutely no evidence to back up their charges.
theylive123 3 years ago
Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment in Jan. 1996. He was lecturing on the subject of malevolent reptilian and gray ETs that are running our governments for 2 years prior to his death.
Schneider's former wife has multiple letters from him saying that someone is going to kill him for speaking on these subjects. He said that if anyone claimed he committed suicide that it would be false.
The police claimed his death was a stroke. They lied. He had strangle marks around his neck.
theylive123 3 years ago
So FUCK OFF reptilian!!!!
I see you.
;)
theylive123 3 years ago
Thnak you for this video !
93VIDEO 3 years ago
Regardless of his political points, Icke is clearly wrong from is pseudo-scientific rambling about vibrations and his misinterpretation of DNA, quantum physics, and more or less anything that sounds clever that he can piggyback on.
A typical Icke-ism was when he said: "People ask me how people can transform into reptilians and back, but recent research shows that DNA can be expressed in different ways". QED. He's crazy until his science remotely agrees with that of a scientist.
revilo314 3 years ago
riiiiight because scientists are never wrong and are omnipotent. if Icke was a scientist or had a lab coat on with degrees behind him you'd swallow every last bit of what he said. since you're so smart and intellectual, why don't you read his books where he breaks down the specific science and study it, deciding for yourself???
Do you not understand that certain DNA sequences can remain dormant until activated? Modern science only understands 1-5% of DNA, the other 90some % they call junk
edro9494 3 years ago
I can tell you worship modern science as the gold standard of truth for the universe which is sadly misguided. Many civilizations in the ancient world, including shamans and mystics, knew the nature of reality and were much more advanced than 'modern technology' will ever be. Modern technology cannot replicate the Pyramids in Egypt because we can't find a way to lift such heavy stones. So saying that because 'modern science' isn't saying what David is, he's automatically wrong is retarded.
edro9494 3 years ago
do you know about "morgellons disease" which is a sci-fi horror dis-ease, and highly contagious... spread the word. see the youtube vid "morgellons indonesia" for starters...
brightsunshineyday 3 years ago
Don't think that because there's a human genome project that we somehow as a civilization fully understand every aspect of DNA. Do scientists and investigators simply dismiss ideas??? No they investigate and research, perhaps you should do the same. My guess is that you don't really about the topic, you just want to shout down Icke because he's not spouting the Dogmatic belief in modern science.
edro9494 3 years ago
Thanks for the Sub.
I have read several of Icke's books, I have seen him live and I have seen that his use of science is spurious and flawed. We could build the pyramids, even without slave labour. The Stones aren't THAT heavy. Heavier things have been moved to build modern buildings.
My point about the DNA was that even if 90% was to lie dormant (which is not true btw) then if it was expressed it would be expressed like all other DNA, i.e. one protein at a time by ribosomes.
revilo314 3 years ago 5
This would mean that there would be no transforming as Icke suggests.
I am not a biologist, so this doesn't annoy me as much as his rape of quantum theory to support his hippy-dippy views on the nature of reality. He seems to have heard of de Broglie wavelength at some point and is flogging it to death. I won't go into why he is wrong, as he doesn't make any actual assertions, he just uses the words to dramatic effect in fallacious ways.
revilo314 3 years ago 6
What he does do though is use scientific research (wrongly, mind) but then go on about how Big Brother stops people researching these things.
Addressing your comments that were directed at me regarding my trust of modern science: I pride myself of being open-minded to the extent that I do not take things as being true unles I am given sufficient evidence to persuade me. My understanding of the physics that Icke misuses is backed up by derivations that no reptilian overlords could fake.
revilo314 3 years ago 5
unless*
Until Icke starts using effective experimentation and mathematical derivations (which are a necessity if his use of the word "frequency" is to be taken seriously) he is a hippy nutcase. Not all innovators in science have degrees, but I think you'll find they've all done some actual science at some point.
revilo314 3 years ago 7
yep, ironically while Icke isn't qualified as a quantum physicist he knows a hell of a lot more about it than most. As to the junk DNA, apparently fluoride damages your pituitary gland (third eye), although other things can help recover it...
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
Phil Schneider- killed
Dean Warwick- killed
Fritz Springmeier - jailed
Do you know who any of these people are?
People have died to get information regarding reptilians across to the public. If you have never heard of their existence you have no business commented on this subject. These aren't David Icke's theories. He is repeating the work of others that came before him.
How do you explain all the mysterious deaths surrounding these heroes?
theylive123 3 years ago
Well christ, if the illuminati can kill multidimensional beings like those guys then why do you risk your lives agreeing with the paradoxically alive David Icke? He's probably only alive as he uses his SHAMANISTIC MIND POWERS to defend himself. I don't have MIND POWERS, and neither do you, so we should be subservient!
Better under the heel of a Jack boot than underground.
revilo314 3 years ago
David Icke was a public figure prior to discussing reptilian shapeshifters. It would be a little too obvious if they killed him. This should be obvious.
The fact of the matter is that there are too many people who know of their existence. There is nothing they can do about it. Soon they'll be forced to leave this planet.
It was theirs. Now it is ours.
theylive123 3 years ago
You mean we stoled their planet? Well WE are the baddies then! Where can they go to? why can't we GET ALONG!
The people who "know" of their existence are also exactly the type of people who are not taken seriously by anyone but each other. Therein lies the problem. And seriously, Icke would be easy to kill, as he is an overweight old former drug user. And he avoids modern medicine. EASY KILL.
Read xkcd comic number 258, it will reveal all!
revilo314 3 years ago 2
It would validate his claims if they killed him. They won't touch him. It wouldn't be an easy kill at all. It would be absurd for them to kill Icke.
Somebody like Phil Schneider was easy to kill because nobody knew who he was prior to making his claims. Dean Warwick was about to voice his support of David Icke in 2006. He dropped dead on stage 10 minutes into a speech he was giving on this very subject.
Why do people who support what Icke says mysteriously die? Must be some truth to it.
theylive123 3 years ago
Well, I wouldn't say that Schneider dying during a speech at a dramatic moment was a subtle murder. If they are unsubtle enough to kill him, tis a tiny step further to kill Icke.
Also, YOU know he died. YOU suspect a murder. The reptilioids are clearly very inept... unless you conspiracy theorists are just genii and can uncover these secrets that were so well hidden that the rest of the world didn't.
Did you read the xkcd comic?
revilo314 3 years ago
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. This subject is way over your head. Let me explain the details surrounding their deaths.
theylive123 3 years ago
Yes, way over my head. Definitely.
Let me rephrase: YOU know the details surrounding the deaths. YOU suspect foul play. YOU therefore imply that you are more intelligent than the illuminati.
I am not inclined to believe that an organisation could control the world if it can't even kill a guy without a bunch of hippies solving the riddle.
revilo314 3 years ago
@revilo314 what are u talking about...string theory talks about vibrations and much more... lets hear what ur theories are old wise one.............please... he has done his research...and maybe the hippies were on to something..better a hippie than a evil destructive corporate government loving psychopath
83Pindi 1 year ago
@83Pindi
Wow, I haven't been on this page for AGES.
String theory DOES talk about vibrations yes. But David icke is talking about macroscopic mechanical vibrations which are about as related as Music and Lasers.
Also, string theory is likely to be discredited. this isn't really a big deal for you as it has yet to affect your life, but the current scientific trend is against it.
revilo314 1 year ago
revilo314 1 year ago
i agree but i desagree in other way. because the queen of england is not so beautiful at all so that tells me one thing that they are not royal at all.. and they are not so divine at all.. the royal family could believe that they are divine by the blood line but doesn't mean it's true .. and they are not so pure at all. maybe they are pure of evil now that i could believe it ..
Joseluissamaniego 3 years ago
he is a schizzo
LascarAlexandru 3 years ago 7
Can you back that up please?
BeryleneShelley 3 years ago
i have mental problems myself, ive been in a psychiatric place for 3 months. and ive seen all kinds of mentally ill people. This guy is just a "deja vu" to me. It's typical to search and aquire conspiracy theories when in reality the truth is close to what a normal man suggests. If it wasnt for what David Icke is suggesting he would find something else instead. He will naturally look up for another conspiracy theory. And if everything was known, Icke will still look up for illusional bullshit.
LascarAlexandru 3 years ago 4
The "Ike is a shill disinfo agent" crap videos... notice how there is NO direct refute or proof to back it up. NONE! Its like calling someone a Hollow Co$t denier because they who scraped the walls at these concentration camps found zero (ZERO!) Cyclon B in the rooms where these supposed gassings took place. Reptilians you say? Why were so many ancient cultures fixated on these half man/reptiles??? Last I checked 2000 years ago they weren't watching Star Trek. RESEARCH what Icke is saying.
GnosticNinja 3 years ago
Wrong! DNA doesn't work like that in homo sapiens. There is no Alpha and Beta in humanity. These people have just kept all the toys. They have also claimed decendence from non-existant gods. They are just corrupted by the power over people. They suck!
kittiest34 3 years ago
HE IS A BENEVOLENT REPTILIAN ,LIKE eNKI HAHAHA.
nikoria 3 years ago
exactly.
if we both just know this intuitively. wow
billgermany2000 3 years ago
ha ha, thats funny....or is it?
greyface01 3 years ago
im a reptilian...got a problem with it?
TheCareMores 3 years ago
i know another theory about iraq
was to raid the museum in baghdad
icantfindanamethis 3 years ago
that was definitely part of it, that museum had some irreplaceable ancient artifacts and knowledge there. HAD some of the oldest stuff in the world (whatever Britain didnt keep)
greyface01 3 years ago
of course
if theyre knighted there part of the inner circle
icantfindanamethis 3 years ago
Icke is a genious he is like Columbo and has a gifted way of working things out!
essy111 3 years ago
Oh my god Ive noticed Bono of U2 has changed since he was knighted.
essy111 3 years ago 5
Bono was knighted?! By who?
greyface01 3 years ago
the queen of england
hellboy17x2 3 years ago
i'm not surprised, I remember seeing Bono with Bill gates at the "world economic forum" on youtube.
greyface01 3 years ago
Great stuff. I'ma huge fan of the Ickster.
FynFlyte 3 years ago
Interesting. Brilliant, but fucc em. God's frequency's stronger than any human's so they can kiss my royal ass lol.
FuccABitch101 3 years ago
Perfect vehicles for this mind manipulation channelling are the mentally disabled/handicapped and those with brain damage. The Doctors no doubt draw extra blood for this purpose. I have asked the phlebotomist what this and that is for and they do not have answers for every one. I wonder if donating plasma puts you on their grid?
TiaCalenture 3 years ago
I suppose this is the same as what we have always been warned of as in the cases of "The Devil made me do it", and "Demons will possess you", "Don't listen to satan, he is just trying to mislead you." I know people that through trials and tribulations, anxiety, stress, frustration, anger, fights, arguements, etc. that HAVE changed their vibrational frequency and become a different 'soul'. So much so that their eyes, speach, grammer, demeaner, attitude, thought processes are from another entity.
TiaCalenture 3 years ago
my friend knows someone whose eyes change colour when he's angry
xxstarchildxx 2 years ago
Mines turn dark green when I get extremely angry, but I doubt "reptilian or serpent Gods" have any thing to do with it.
HybridD91 2 years ago
If Icke turns out to be reptilian himself...
MexicanTuber 3 years ago
Yeah exactly what i was thinking. ahhhh paranoia is the sweetest song =]
Timeshoes 3 years ago
MAYBE THATS WHY THEY HAVENT GOT HIM LOL
rowania 3 years ago
im really staring to belive the iraq war is to wipe out certain poeple with hybrid dna.. clean the evidence up!!
NQG666 3 years ago
good old ickey :D
StreetMagic101 3 years ago