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  • I think there are catholic churches that are playing with the rules a little bit, and that makes gay people think that those particular churches condone gay relationships. Maybe some catholic churches even do. But when the leadership comes and sets these churches straight, the gay people are disappointed. This is not good. Better for priests to tell the truth. And ofcourse forgive them, if they want absolution.

  • As a catholic people think we don't allow gays. well there you have it this video is living proof that we welcome them.our stance on gays is they may not be married or commit adultery and must live a chaste life.

  • *sigh looks like my generation has a lot of cleaning up to do, thanks a lot baby boomers

  • when will people learn??? the Catholic church has not changed its position on ANYTHING in 2000 years. it will not start now.

  • wow...I dreamed that I was watching in the world and this huge movement of athiesm began to take hold as these masses of people were fleeing from relgion....then I seen the Lord and he said to me here I am (he was seperate from all the religion and he said ot me they are throwing me out with religion because they don't know who I am and that they can have me without it....the fact is Jesus Christ died to redeem man kind from sin and put him back into a relationship with God the Father...

  • for centuries the RC Church promoted a meticulous language of antisemitism & then claimed that it didn't after the Holocaust.Now terms like "intrinsically disorded"are applied to gay people & gays are turned into a cold theological category...&..to make matters worse the pope whips up homophobic hysteria by declaring that "secular"(not sacramental)marriage will undermine and erode civilization.By saying this he enpowers a gutt-leval hatred & fear of gays among the ignorant & bigoted.

  • 90% of priest abusers target teenage boys as their victims.. Relatively little attention has been paid to this phenomenon by Church authorities. Perhaps it is feared that it will call attention to the disproportionate number of gay priests.” D. Cozzens, The Changing Face of the Priesthood, pp. 123-124

  • @bayonetsluts Yeah, the church condemns homosexuality but then allows their faggot priests to molest little boys. It's all revolved around that idiotic rule the church has about priests not being allowed to marry or date women. Well all that does is attract more homosexuals and pedophiles to the priesthood. The church purposely ignores all the inappropriate sex acts under their own roof. The entire church is a hot bed for lies, scandal, corruption, and abuse.

  • @dengtui

    Because in practice the Church is often hypocritical. It treats gay people with a harshness not handed out to adulterers, fornicators, paedophile priests, bishops complicit in paedophilia. It denounces none of these, but often denounces gay people. It has even denied burial to gay people who have worked for it for many years - this can't be on moral grounds, for otherwise the late Senator Kennedy would not have been given a Church funeral. So its position is incoherent. That's why.

  • @dengtui Ignorance. Many are unaware of Catholic teachings on homosexuality. Others have met those who identify themselves as Catholic but have different beliefs regarding homosexuality that conflict with actual teachings. Some anger is influenced from people's hate towards other parts of the Catholic faith. There are many reasons and I can't claim to understand them all but from my personal encounters most Catholic hate and anger towards the Church stems from ignorance.

  • @klutzygirl31: I agree. Everyone seems to know what the Church teaches but people won't ask the philosophical question, 'Why does the Church teach it?' The teachings of Jesus Christ were counter cultural so why are people shocked when His Church continues to teach in opposition to current moral standards.

  • @klutzygirl31 No, most of the hate and anger toward the Catholic church stems from pure fact. The ignorant ones are those who turn a blind eye or conveniently ignore all the corruption and wrongdoings within the church. Fact: many churches harbor illegal aliens. Fact: many priests sexually abuse children. Fact: clergy members have ignored or even condoned these acts. Fact: many Catholics are baby-breeding machines who are welfare-dependent. Fact: the Vatican still condemns birth control.

  • @shootinair And didnt the Catholic church help many nazi's to escape across the mountains from Germany into eventually Italy immediatly after the second world war as to avoid justice..Im no fan of the Catholic church,it has alot of redeeming to do...

  • Atheism merely requires a modest level of intellect and cognitive skill; as apposed to being a Theist, which only requires having an anus to stick ones head into. This correlation explains the overwhelming number of Theist.

  • Judas Iscariot would agree with all the comments below.

  • What a beautiful church that actually pays attention when the book says "Love thy neighbor" Why don't other "Christians" do the same?

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  • @scotttebben Your comments are a bit harsh don't you think? Accusing the Pope of pedophilia.

  • @dengtui

    Pope Joseph Ratzinger is 100% complicit in the concealing of hundreds of rapes and protecting the child rapist priests by means of transfer. Was I to harsh you ask? No, not nearly harsh enough.

  • @scotttebben What evidence do you have?

  • I wonder if the church has been excamunicated. If not I wonder why the pope hasn't done so?

  • @knowamericaknowbible

    Why? They didn't kill anybody. They didn't molest a boy. They didn't hurt anybody. So uh why?

  • @midnull it's been so long that I looked at this account that I can't even remember what I said. However for the most part Catholicism is led by false prophets anyway. They have strayed away from the first church which was founded by the apostles.

  • @knowamericaknowbible Correct... If you want the apostolic first church go to a Orthodox parish. Unchanged over the years since Christ. For example in this video you hear the creed of nicea. The orthodox creed is the same written in nicea. Catholics say the holy spirit proceeds from the Father and the SON. This is called the Filoque. and is NOT biblical or the belief of the first church. Original Sin, destruction of sanctuary all added

  • @midnull because they have accepted Homosexuality into their religious doctrine something which the pope has not done and they probably never will.

  • hmmm... I don't really know what to say. All I know is that the cross with the words 'Pride' written across it is a huge contradiction. Christ is about humility. We are to be humble with our cross'

  • Makes no sense why catholic churches wouldn't accept openly gay people. Hell, most of their priests are faggots and little boy-loving pedophiles. Then again, they sweep that under the rug and lie about it. Worthless catholic assholes!!!!!

  • @shootinair

    Catholic churches DO accept openly gay people, the state of homosexuality is not disallowed in catholicism, it is the ACT of homosexuality that is disallowed.

  • @bradmanthethird actually benedict changed that quite recently and said the homosexual condition is "intrinsically sinful" the bible also says in first corinthians 6: "homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of god" but i say fuck em, better to stay out of the church if they're so hateful

  • @MamaMario13

    Wow he's less intelligent than I had originally thought, maybe this change is based on something he learned in the hitler youth...

  • @bradmanthethird besides, if th choice is between sex and joining a church, what do u think intelligent people will choose?

  • @MamaMario13

    Well, saying that every catholic priest is not intelligent is simply fallacious, i understand where you are going but there WERE some smart Catholics. There were even some catholics that made a really decent case for their faith, well as decent as a case as could be made, with high level, sound philosophy. That being said these individuals were often the same ones that got a lot of shit from the established order...

  • @bradmanthethird Yup exactly what I've said all along, He'd make Hitler proud....BTW the fact that he officiated his first public Mass as Pope on April 20 ..HITLER'S BIRTHDAY says quite a lot.

    FUCK THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

    I was a perplexed and miserable Roman Catholic today I'm a happy Episcopalian.

  • @bradmanthethird The Roman Catholic Church is FULL OF SHIT every which way you turn, that is why I and most of my family members left the Church. Ex-Catholics form the second largest group of religious people in the US...just go to any Episcopal Church....

    Homosexuality is "disallowed" ...but apparently the Hierarchy condemns Gay people, who are productive, law abiding, consenting adults but ALLOWED pedophile Priests to continue molesting by transferring them around and keeping it quiet.

  • Respond to this video... The Roman Catholic Church needs to wake up to the fact that the Dark Ages are long over. Just like their credibility and respectability is also lost.

  • time to put away dogma. Gay is good. it is catholicism that is repressed and unhealthy. get free.

  • why i mention muslim is because their the ones the world should worry about not what GAYS are upto not the catholic church or protestant church its islam everyone of you christians are playing into their hands by fighting with eachother name calling pathetic

  • Its great to see comments on here those idiots think that they are better than everyone else that there churches are the right ones have a dayoff when did anyone of you becomes judges of people when did God appeared and ask you to judge other people. your worst than muslims, and by the way i not a catholic just a man who doesnt give a dam how people run their lifes .And it doesnt affect me or any children thats ok by me, no one got a right to judge others only GOD has,

  • The church of molestation, now known as Molesters R US is busy banning the gay members from associating their church with gay people. If I was Catholic and gay, my most fervent prayer would be that a volcano would erupt under the Vatican, and swallow this cruel and inhumane institution into the real fires of hell in the center of the earth.

    Some gay catholics hold hope that the church can be reformed.

    Be smart and go join the Good but similar Episcopal church, with its gay bishops etc.

  • @lookseeme21 shut up you arsehole who are you to judge anyone your worst than a muslim is,

  • @lookseeme21

    I think that your bias and hate welcome new perpestives

    youtube.com/watch?v=nvLqR0FChE­k

  • Disgusting. Someone needs to say an exorcism prayer over that whole parish.

  • @justalayman Saint Francis Xavier parish is a very welcoming very CHRISTIAN parish, what you should exorcise is your narrow mind. You don't have to agree and you have every right to disagree or dislike them, but you have no right to judge. But thanks for sharing it only confirms that my entire family and myself leaving the Roman Catholic Church was the right decision. We don't need to check our intelligence at the church door anymore or bow to a MAN who claims to speak for God.

  • @NativeNewYorkGuy

    When the action in question is persecuting people based on sexual orientation then unfortuneatly we do need to judge, we need to judge brutally vocally and openly until they reverse their bass ackward anti-gay, anti-woman hiring policies. We would not put up for that shit anywhere else, religion is no special exception.

  • That is part of the Vatican II apostate church anyway. Their pastor and "bishop" are not really Catholic Priests either, but then neither is their supposed "Pope"!

  • @catholicarchangel Homosexuality is not natural? I see it all over nature and there is no reasoned out logical evidence to say that it is not. However, there is scientific observation that would suggest it is natural. Also, prove to me that your God exists and I will submit to the possibility of such a thing as sin. Perhaps since you are a Christian you should research into the origins of your own holy book and understand where these scriptures come from and how they were translated.

  • @pageboythehumanist Hey I am sure you feel because animals perform homo-sexual acts that it's ok and natural for us right? So then what's wrong with having sex in public in fron of innocent mind (reminds me of the gay-parades) or why not just kill the weak and old since they are no use because only the strong survive just like in the animal kingdom right?

  • @catholicarchangel Homosexual acts in nature are just that, natural. Attraction is animalistic and by that I mean it's instinctual, it's feral. They do not make a conscious choice to have sex with a male or female it just is what it is to them. It's the same for us. Secondly, we don't kill each other because we are a social animal. Just like lions won't kill their own pack. Our so-called "morality" is a social survival skill of the social construct in which we live.

  • @Beeht Well said, Beeht! Bravo!

  • @catholicarchangel,

    You are misguided like whoa! Take a sec to stand back, think about this yourself without your priest's dick in your ass.

    Fuck you.

  • @usethisspamname Wow, thanks for being a douche-nozzle. The adults are talking here, kid, go find somewhere else to play.

  • @pageboythehumanist,

    Hey sometimes it takes a douche to rinse out all the bad shit.

    Guess what, some cleansing needs to occur.

    BTW, I must be some well off kid to come up with a fantastic analogy like that.

  • @usethisspamname Cleansing? What the hell are you talking about? You're not cleaning anything by shouting expletives at them. If this battle over ignorance is to be won, it's going to be through reason and evidence.

  • @catholicarchangel Actually, the only reason anyone brings up homosexual behavior in animals is to counter the idiotic claim that being gay is a choice, or can be changed at will. There's no suggestion that we should allow homosexuality JUST because it's normal behavior in other animals. We should allow homosexuality because being homosexual and being in love with someone of the same sex harms no one, and it does not infringe upon the rights of others.

  • @catholicarchangel "Actually most of the abuses where that of 14 to 17 year old males" can you give me the source for that please?

    "sounds to me like gays were the ones who caused many of the abuses." Actually, you'd be wrong there. The vast majority of male on male child molestation are by men who are attracted exclusively to children (as in not attracted to adults, much less adult males) or are otherwise heterosexual.

    hxxp://psychology.ucdavis.edu/­rainbow/html/facts_molestation­.html

  • @pageboythehumanist Pedophilia (or paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in adults or late adolescents (persons age 16 and older) for whom prepubescent children are the primary or exclusive sexual object.

    Prepubescent :The period of life before puberty, marked by increased growth. Associated with purity, innocence, and simplicity of life. Usually boys don't hit puberty until 12 or 13. Most documented cases where of male boys 14 to 17.

  • The good thing about Gay people is they are a Dying Generation, if you don't let them adopt your children, they can only contribute (1) one generation--Thank God!!

  • @working4god1 You realize that gay people more often than not come from straight couples, right?

  • @catholicarchangel Yes, and all the raping of male children done by the catholic church is neither gay not childabuse right?

    Wake up!

  • @mikrobluess Most of the abuses were done by homo-sexuals, do I need say more?

  • @catholicarchangel Yes, you need to say more. You can start by posting evidence that backs up your ridiculous claim, because as far as I know there have been no studies that have successfully linked homosexuality and child abuse.

  • @pageboythehumanist Google: "Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse"

    This is one of MANY sites you will find linking homosexuality to child abuse.

  • @mythicalhell Sorry mythicalhell, I was asking for actual scientific studies, not religiously motivated drivel that anyone can write up and post on the internet.

  • @pageboythehumanist Ok any your studies are dont by who? Organizations that have the gay agenda, to make sure they promote it and is seen as normal to the rest of civilization.

  • @catholicarchangel Your "gay agenda" conspiracy theory is idiotic. Less than 10% of the population is gay, and yet there's a enough people who are in on the gay agenda conspiracy to infiltrate the whole of academia, and turn the peer review process into a homosexuality enabling puppet of this very small minority, all while no one ever noticed a single thing?

    Do you even realize how daunting a task it would be to get every credible scientist and psychiatrist into the pocket of homosexuals?

  • @pageboythehumanist You said it your self. But all I have one name for you, Obama.

  • @catholicarchangel Oh, so Obama's in on the conspiracy, huh? You realize his administration defended DOMA, despite Obama's campaign pledge to repeal it, right? You realize that he's also not in favor of gay marriage, and that gay blogs have been roundly abusing him lately for his not-so-fierce advocacy, right?

    Take off the tinfoil hat, chuckie, you look ridiculous.

  • @pageboythehumanist LOL man you made my day that is really funny. But what ever makes you feel better in order to defend your ways. Don't worry I will make contact with mother ship so we can all be "raptured" from this world before 2012.

  • @catholicarchangel Thanks, but no thanks. You can take your bronze age theology and go back where you came from with it. We already tried the dark ages, and it wasn't quite to our liking, thank you very much.

  • @pageboythehumanist I have to ask you, if you are looking for information(scientific or otherwise), are you not capable of finding it yourself? If not, just let me know and I'll spend quality time searching for you! :-)

  • @mythicalhell It's not just me, mythie. The American Psychiatric Association, American Medical Association, American Psychological Association, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, and the National Association of Social Workers can't find these scientific studies supporting the claim that homosexuality is linked to child molestation either. If you do find something, be sure to forward anything you find to them as well, okay?

  • @pageboythehumanist  Yeah, don't expect anything(lol), but If I find any scientific info on it I'll drop you a line.

  • @mythicalhell You do that.

  • @pageboythehumanist It is linked to homosexuality, although not all the abuses where linked to homosexuals, but most where. There are studies on this, the unfortunate part is that they don't make it to the main stream media because of the gay agenda. I can try to find the studies that I've read in books and online and will post them when I do find them. The other "studies" are always biased and will show results that favor the gay movemnet, do example sayin that 10% of the population is gay

  • @catholicarchangel I ask for evidence and all I get is more unsubstantiated drivel. I'm willing to bet that anything you find isn't peer reviewed, or even backed up by any credible academic institution. More than likely you'll find an article written by some religious nut who blatantly misrepresents whatever study they're trying to use to back themselves up.

  • @pageboythehumanist And all I get from you is that you are nothing but prideful just like many gays. I told you I will give you what I find. And thoe "credible" sources you speak of are always funded my pro-gay organizations. So not so credible when it's one sided is it? This kind of reminds me of the whole

    global waming" deal, remember that? Or did you and your liberal friends already forget about that? Have you looked at the recent evidence on how the earth is cooling?

  • @catholicarchangel Pro-gay organizations? Is every organization that doesn't call for the execution of homosexuals a pro-gay organization now? Besides, the peer review process doesn't have corporate sponsorship. People who submit studies into the peer review process don't get a leaflet back saying "This peer review was brought to you by Coca Cola!"

  • @pageboythehumanist And your evidence to this?

  • @catholicarchangel,

    Dude, fuck your couch.

  • @usethisspamname Hey thank you for prooving your immaturity in having a mature discussion. God bless.

  • @catholicarchangel but you said: "Hos sad that the Gay agenda is hijacking the Catholic church :( "... It has been this way for centuries, its nothing new. And must of the recorded abuses has nothing to do with homosexuality, it is plain and simple sexual child abuse. No need at all to blame homosexuals in general. But many people do this because they dare not face the fact that their religion is not what they think it is.

  • Catholics. Man, are they living in another century or what?

  • @catholicarchangel I agree with rg0057. I'm not sure it's wise to so closely associate with a church that has such a history of child molestation, especially when the anti-gay bigots are trying so desperately to tie us to pedophilia.

  • @catholicarchangel , I agree.  LGBTs should not desire to be part of a international criminal organization.

  • This makes me sad.  What a douche bag that crusty old troll is...

  • What about condoms?

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