Read about this film in "Recipes for Disaster." Thanks for posting and thanks to the filmmakers. If folks can reply and recommend any other films or docs about Seattle WTO we would appreciate it.
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I think that quite a few of the anarchists were probably insurrectionary anarchists, post-left anarchists and egoists and therefore critical of democracy. So that might have been it.
Continuing to hold demonstrations is the only way to get them to notice us. This will cause increased scrutiny, but we must force them to pay attention.
man we just had the g20 summit in my hometown of toronto and it's funny how the media says almost exactly word-for-word the same shit those 60 minutes assholes are saying. "Most of the protesters were peaceful, but a tiny fraction of them incited violence," they say this to condition people to think they are just "shit disturbers" i.e. "Only a few people protested, not most of them, therefore they must just be destruction-loving people with no real issues."
I cant believe this was 10 years ago. I was there,came all the way from the east coast -with 50$ in my pocket. The experience made me richer than any man. What happened to the ANTI CAPITALIST movement in America?
That, relatively few, group of individuals generated more creativity and inspiration in their acts of destruction, than the NWO could hope to generate in a thousand generations of their inbred ilk ever could imagine!
hey x62617, nice observations smartass. we're all living in modern society, whether we like it or not, and so yes, people wear clothes and use cameras and the internet to help them get their points across. what the fuck are they supposed to do, sit in a cave and make clothes out of hides? get real fucko
disclaimer: all camera equipment used in the making of this film was built by corporations. all protesters seen in film wearing clothing/shoes/gas masks/bandanas made by corporations. film distributed on the internet via corporations that control internet servers.
you cannot resist capitalism 100% when you live in a capitalist society; the goal is to limit your participation as much as possible. and im willing to bet that the activists werent wearing new clothing bought from from gap or nike, but more likely second hand clothing. unless you are completely off the grid and grow your own food, make your own clothes, etc, than you must participate in capitalist society on some basis.
the anarchists do get involved politically, its just that our politics are much different tan yours. we don't want to be represented. we want to represent ourselves. no change is going to come out of our current system.
as Trotsky said - "in order to build a new foundation you must first tear down the walls"
Good work associating the state with peace and civilization in contrast to your own asinine behavior. Smash the state, not the neighborhood, 'tards.
Oh, and that doesn't mean power needs to be seized from the state - a bunch of violent thugs - by another bunch of violent thugs. Power needs to be decentralized down to the individual level. Equality of authority is the true nature of anarchism and the only truly egalitarian ideal. That means unanimous consent, not majoritarian tyranny, btw.
Justifying destruction of corporate and state property isn't hard, you need to expose the injustice of this system; This documentary is successful in doing so. You might as well be a liberal.
@Libertarian333 couldnt agree more. i thought the same thing while watching. why put a guy in the docu saying that we need to seize power. we need to abolish power not seize it. this documentary made it seem like the anarchists only means of ending capitalism and exploitation is by "fucking shit up". i mean i understand that he was focusing on the wto event and not anarchism in general but he couldve been way more informative. and the people he interviewed werent well versed on anarchism.
Read about this film in "Recipes for Disaster." Thanks for posting and thanks to the filmmakers. If folks can reply and recommend any other films or docs about Seattle WTO we would appreciate it.
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mountainjustice 2 months ago
No one in the video stated the obvious anarchist position: real freedom only comes from real democracy, and the US doesn't have any.
TheForwardGaze 3 months ago
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I think that quite a few of the anarchists were probably insurrectionary anarchists, post-left anarchists and egoists and therefore critical of democracy. So that might have been it.
guatahala 2 months ago
Continuing to hold demonstrations is the only way to get them to notice us. This will cause increased scrutiny, but we must force them to pay attention.
thatdamnpunk 9 months ago
was that Luke wilson at the start?
blueridger28 1 year ago
Does anyone have this episode of 60 minutes or know where to get it?
dubified89 1 year ago 2
i am in
(netherlands)
mrej1234567890 1 year ago
man we just had the g20 summit in my hometown of toronto and it's funny how the media says almost exactly word-for-word the same shit those 60 minutes assholes are saying. "Most of the protesters were peaceful, but a tiny fraction of them incited violence," they say this to condition people to think they are just "shit disturbers" i.e. "Only a few people protested, not most of them, therefore they must just be destruction-loving people with no real issues."
deadpanrookie 1 year ago 3
Good Movie. Thanks.
SocialPathology 1 year ago
I cant believe this was 10 years ago. I was there,came all the way from the east coast -with 50$ in my pocket. The experience made me richer than any man. What happened to the ANTI CAPITALIST movement in America?
xNervousxBrainx 2 years ago 11
@xNervousxBrainx Obama happened.
voltairinedecleyre66 6 months ago
That, relatively few, group of individuals generated more creativity and inspiration in their acts of destruction, than the NWO could hope to generate in a thousand generations of their inbred ilk ever could imagine!
Death to the $quare & Compass!
Death to the Rose & Cross!!
Death to the New World Order!!!
LONGPORKBUFFET 2 years ago 2
hey x62617, nice observations smartass. we're all living in modern society, whether we like it or not, and so yes, people wear clothes and use cameras and the internet to help them get their points across. what the fuck are they supposed to do, sit in a cave and make clothes out of hides? get real fucko
ghostinthecupboard 2 years ago 2
disclaimer: all camera equipment used in the making of this film was built by corporations. all protesters seen in film wearing clothing/shoes/gas masks/bandanas made by corporations. film distributed on the internet via corporations that control internet servers.
x62617 2 years ago
@x62617 corporations don't make anything, workers do. In any case, your disclaimer is fruitless.
seigneurvoland666 1 year ago
you cannot resist capitalism 100% when you live in a capitalist society; the goal is to limit your participation as much as possible. and im willing to bet that the activists werent wearing new clothing bought from from gap or nike, but more likely second hand clothing. unless you are completely off the grid and grow your own food, make your own clothes, etc, than you must participate in capitalist society on some basis.
mikeadever 1 year ago
Shot, edited and did lots of other stuff, lol. Good movie
SCBReturns 2 years ago
live in you'r blind world you'll be happier
thisjazzkills 2 years ago
or you can pick up and move to another county
TheSouthcountykid 2 years ago
BUT they are not attorneys.
skatetolive85 2 years ago
revolution against technology ? the internet is going to bring the revolution !
VincentBlouin 2 years ago
60min said that, duh
DarthDondra 2 years ago
ok final note
if they want equality and everyone one to have an equal share of the worlds money
as someone has said 1% of the world owns 95% of the money
wouldnt that be the same as in
gullivers travels
where everyone made the same
no matter how hard you worked
you would always make the same as the lazy man who did nothing
reaperofsilk 3 years ago
if you are lazy, you wouldn't get any food...
in anarchosyndicalism everyone has to do something except you CAN NOT work.. then you get your food for free.. It's pretty simple ;)
MannoMagic 2 years ago 3
its a good film
regardless weither you agree with them or not
i think these kids are stupid and served no point throwing rocks nd getting your ass kicked while the WTO sat and just watched
no "anarchist " got involved politically
at all
just thrw a fit
its like calling your boss a bitch
you feel ya im takng him down
bt hes still just laughing cus he has your money
reaperofsilk 3 years ago
but you are missing the point. we dont need his money.
LaneCarterHendricks 3 years ago
the anarchists do get involved politically, its just that our politics are much different tan yours. we don't want to be represented. we want to represent ourselves. no change is going to come out of our current system.
as Trotsky said - "in order to build a new foundation you must first tear down the walls"
TheAutonomist 3 years ago 21
Way better than anything over at the movie house!
ddrumsman549 3 years ago 2
tim lewis...youre a horrible film maker. could have been much more informative
charlieonehorse 3 years ago
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Liberty! Not anarchy!
kpmattson 3 years ago
Anarchy is liberty
MannoMagic 2 years ago 6
My only complaint is this documentary should have been longer. :)
SupremeMaggot 3 years ago 24
Good work associating the state with peace and civilization in contrast to your own asinine behavior. Smash the state, not the neighborhood, 'tards.
Oh, and that doesn't mean power needs to be seized from the state - a bunch of violent thugs - by another bunch of violent thugs. Power needs to be decentralized down to the individual level. Equality of authority is the true nature of anarchism and the only truly egalitarian ideal. That means unanimous consent, not majoritarian tyranny, btw.
Libertarian333 3 years ago
Justifying destruction of corporate and state property isn't hard, you need to expose the injustice of this system; This documentary is successful in doing so. You might as well be a liberal.
PunkSkaOi 3 years ago 4
@Libertarian333 couldnt agree more. i thought the same thing while watching. why put a guy in the docu saying that we need to seize power. we need to abolish power not seize it. this documentary made it seem like the anarchists only means of ending capitalism and exploitation is by "fucking shit up". i mean i understand that he was focusing on the wto event and not anarchism in general but he couldve been way more informative. and the people he interviewed werent well versed on anarchism.
mikeadever 1 year ago
put up the miami model next.
otakuloco13 3 years ago