many people in the comments are confused, let me clear it up...
It's originally a Toyota 4AG 1587cc 4 cylinder 5 valve with individual throttle bodies... the one in this video he has changed the cams and pistons, so now it makes 200ps instead of about 165ps.
I want that engine it sounds so good on full throttle.
exhaust gas are hot and have enough velocity to find easily the exit of the cylinder.
most of the time the intake valve is bigger or there are more of them than exhaust valves.
in few turbo engines the exhaust is bigger than the intake to allow the turbo to pump the exhaust gas when it's creating a vacuum just before the valve close.
but the more valve you have the more bigger cylinder you have too, and on a so big surface the mixture do not burn quick enough......
@just if you didnt notice somebody else clear me that already and didnt call me a dumbass you punck ass cibergansta i did 12 yrs in the joint so y lost a lot of time i i didnt know but i use to go to the track i think way before you bitch!!!
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stupid people who doesnt know about Tsuchiya's AE86 and about 4ages. learn about ae86s before you thumbs down ppls comments(to people who put thumbs down cuz there nerds and stupid)
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20v 4age are great engines made by Toyota and its true and they make really cool sound with there ITBs and idk why but it keeps reminding me tht Takumi and his AE86 is racing the Kai and his MR-S (later in the Manga of 5th Stage) and idk why im being random lol but 20v 4ages make good sounds and good engines
to the man that says that keichiis engine is a 20v not... the engine on the trueno of keichii is a trd formula atlantic a red top 1990 4age modified it is 16v yet its regulated for some reason but it is not a 20v cuz 20v cant get the same stress as the 16v ;)
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Basically the reason i dont understand the vid is cause all it is about is the engine sitting there revving. I'd be much more interested in seeing it move.
the purpose of this vid is to summon all the haters on youtube..lol..nah the good ol toyota/yamaha engine came stock with itbs and vvt plus shim UNDER bucket held together with a forged crank and topped withside fed inj and a nice windage tray to boot. and to minamize ring flutter at high rpm they made em a little thinner and to hit high rpms they made em lighter.and thats all you need.go get one they are cheap
basically to show the response on the built 20v this shop did... what's there not to understand.. know anything about 20v??? especially liek that slick COP setup?
OKAY so hers some food for thought 4v vs 5v heads is it the added valve or the way the valves are angled to the piston that adds you the power.....like in a small block chevy stock heads are at 23 degrees to the pistonswhenn you start getting into high rpm (8000+)you better think about switching to 18 degree heads,cuz he could just throw bigger valves in a 4v head and get the same kinda flow numbers.....something to ponder
flippin thru all these little ae86's with this throttle body setup on em and it's all the same tap the throttle to like 3000 over and over again.....must sound a lot cooler in person sounds stupid on video like keeping a 4barrel carbed car off the secondaries.....found one where the guy hits it once sounds pretty mean.....this car would probably eat me so not talkin bad but hit it once at least, if youre filming it trying to show off then show off already!
In this the (the engine in the video) it was 4 cylinders but 5 valves for each one, which still give the 20v configuration altough from a a diferente, and unusual, type of aproach.
yeah exactly. 3 intake and 2 exhaust. Its much easier to clear exhaust out of the combustion chamber than to fill it with the air/fuel mix. Also by staggering the opening of the intake valves the mixture is "swirled" in the CC which is a boon for combustion effiency. It also nicely fills the 20v pent-roof combustion chamber, which incidentally is used by several F1 motors to this day....
never really understood why 5 valves are any better. 4 valves is still considered the best by most F1 motors including honda AKA best motor in one of the worst cars this year.
Mainly it's because of the way the power is delivered, 5 cilininder engines are known to have wider torque bands and
being smother when you step on the gas.. It RWD cars it's an important feature because if you over-step the gas pedal that power delivery is not so abrut like in a 4 cilinder.
It's almost like the Turbo-lag... no power... still no power.. BANG we're we go. 20v engines are the exact contrary ;)
If it has 4 cylinders, normaly it has 1 ou 2 vavles per each, wich gives 8v ou 16v.. The 20v engine, like Tsuchiya AE86, is a 5 cilinder engine bulit from crosing the 4A-GE engine with the 1.6 litre from the AE111 model ;)
ohohoh! now i know what you're talking about, you weren't talking about this particular engine, right!, yes this configuration is rare, i've only seen this in the 1.8T audi/volkswagen engine and this one ;)
no your an idiot too, its a 4 Cylinder with 5 Valvers PER Cylinder, get it right... if your confused as to what im talking about, send me an e-mail, i have 16V head pictures, and 20V head pictures to show you the difference.. there is no "added piston/cylinder" 5 Cylinder means 5 Pistons.. thats fucking impossible.
dont think he was talking about the ae86's engine...i kinda remember something about a euro car with a 5 cylinder in my auto class..its set up in a star formation with the crank being in the center..sorry i cant give u a clearer pic
Your an idiot, there is no "5 Cylinder" 4A in Tsuchiya's AE, its called a "20V" basically what he did, was 1 of 2 things, Swapped in the 4A-GE(blacktop/silvertop) 4 Cylinder 1.6L 20 Valve, or took the STOCK 1.6L 16V and added a Silvertop or Blacktop head to the original block (its a cheaper alternative, and since hes turbo the pistons were useless to keep or use from a 20v/16v application)
lol read the post! I was replying to sum1 else about 5 cylinder fiat engines (i.e. the 2.0 coupe turbo and 2.4 stilo abarth) these are inline 5 and fwd, couple of vw's have v5 engines too so its not 'impossible'
Tsuchiya's engine is not turboed, it is still a naturally aspirated engine. It is a 20 valve Group A engine, detuned to around 190 horsepower these days.
@GriffkinPT you sir are a dumb shit perhaps a good method would be you Counting the spark plug wires. Tsuchiya drive a 16 valve four cylinder and a 20 valve four cylinder.
The things i would do for an AE86 or AW11 with one of them in it... The only thing better than that would be a 10,000rpm+ TRD group A engine, like the N2 Levin's, even if its only got 200bhp, the revvyness (to coin a phrase) is the stuff dreams are made of
4AGはアクセル踏みこんだ時の音がカッコいい！
Mickey8423f 4 months ago
many people in the comments are confused, let me clear it up...
It's originally a Toyota 4AG 1587cc 4 cylinder 5 valve with individual throttle bodies... the one in this video he has changed the cams and pistons, so now it makes 200ps instead of about 165ps.
I want that engine it sounds so good on full throttle.
driftjunk 5 months ago
that revving was fucking retarded
seansweetaurus 7 months ago
3 valves for intake 2 for exhaust or vice versa?
takulovesanime 1 year ago
@takulovesanime
3 for intake.
exhaust gas are hot and have enough velocity to find easily the exit of the cylinder.
most of the time the intake valve is bigger or there are more of them than exhaust valves.
in few turbo engines the exhaust is bigger than the intake to allow the turbo to pump the exhaust gas when it's creating a vacuum just before the valve close.
but the more valve you have the more bigger cylinder you have too, and on a so big surface the mixture do not burn quick enough......
michaelovitch 1 year ago
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takulovesanime 1 year ago
@just if you didnt notice somebody else clear me that already and didnt call me a dumbass you punck ass cibergansta i did 12 yrs in the joint so y lost a lot of time i i didnt know but i use to go to the track i think way before you bitch!!!
macheteboy787 1 year ago
beautiful webber carbs.
macheteboy787 1 year ago
@macheteboy787 The 20V is in fact EFI and not carbs.
jezzahr 1 year ago
@macheteboy787 nope
MrPoopEpoop 1 year ago
@macheteboy787 those are intakes dumbass
chucknorris0325 1 year ago
LOL bigger valves<more valves. maybe u need to read up on head design
kaph3n 1 year ago
えぇ音してるね～＾＾
ogusio315 1 year ago
a.k.a Taks new motor ;)
K20civicsirturbo 1 year ago
@K20civicsirturbo aka the most FANBOY thing i've ever heard
jotch 1 year ago 2
@jotch ahahaha like you never watched initial D.....
7msupraboy 1 year ago
@K20civicsirturbo lol yeah
TakumiFuji01 1 year ago
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stupid japanese(to the idiots one) put thumbs down cuz they dont know english
TakumiFuji01 1 year ago
吸気音最高！
taku0524GT 2 years ago
いい音だー・・・・
背筋に鳥肌がたつよ・・・・
nozean 2 years ago
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stupid people who doesnt know about Tsuchiya's AE86 and about 4ages. learn about ae86s before you thumbs down ppls comments(to people who put thumbs down cuz there nerds and stupid)
TakumiFuji01 2 years ago
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20v 4age are great engines made by Toyota and its true and they make really cool sound with there ITBs and idk why but it keeps reminding me tht Takumi and his AE86 is racing the Kai and his MR-S (later in the Manga of 5th Stage) and idk why im being random lol but 20v 4ages make good sounds and good engines
TakumiFuji01 2 years ago
@TakumiFuji01 Agreed.
keitarolovenaru37 2 years ago
oink oink oink oink oink.
tyu198 2 years ago
これから秋名山下ってセッティングって風情ですね。
yunitibi2set 2 years ago 2
I just came.
JoMammaSmurf 2 years ago 3
there's also a 20V 4A-GE Formula Atlantic variant.
takeshisatosan 2 years ago
to the man that says that keichiis engine is a 20v not... the engine on the trueno of keichii is a trd formula atlantic a red top 1990 4age modified it is 16v yet its regulated for some reason but it is not a 20v cuz 20v cant get the same stress as the 16v ;)
zerohunter64 2 years ago
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ahh Tsuchiya's Trueno had a blacktop 20v 4age .
TakumiFuji01 2 years ago
the car is good but the story is bad. the kept the engine good size.
snapywrist 2 years ago
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Basically the reason i dont understand the vid is cause all it is about is the engine sitting there revving. I'd be much more interested in seeing it move.
walkman5410 2 years ago
can anyone explain to me the purpose of this vid?
walkman5410 2 years ago 3
If you were into tuning, it explains itself. But for you asking that question, 500 characters wouldn't be enough.
Zedman260 2 years ago
the purpose of this vid is to summon all the haters on youtube..lol..nah the good ol toyota/yamaha engine came stock with itbs and vvt plus shim UNDER bucket held together with a forged crank and topped withside fed inj and a nice windage tray to boot. and to minamize ring flutter at high rpm they made em a little thinner and to hit high rpms they made em lighter.and thats all you need.go get one they are cheap
wannabecarguy 2 years ago 2
basically to show the response on the built 20v this shop did... what's there not to understand.. know anything about 20v??? especially liek that slick COP setup?
MonkiMajyk 2 years ago
OKAY so hers some food for thought 4v vs 5v heads is it the added valve or the way the valves are angled to the piston that adds you the power.....like in a small block chevy stock heads are at 23 degrees to the pistonswhenn you start getting into high rpm (8000+)you better think about switching to 18 degree heads,cuz he could just throw bigger valves in a 4v head and get the same kinda flow numbers.....something to ponder
poteet808 2 years ago 7
flippin thru all these little ae86's with this throttle body setup on em and it's all the same tap the throttle to like 3000 over and over again.....must sound a lot cooler in person sounds stupid on video like keeping a 4barrel carbed car off the secondaries.....found one where the guy hits it once sounds pretty mean.....this car would probably eat me so not talkin bad but hit it once at least, if youre filming it trying to show off then show off already!
poteet808 2 years ago 3
In this the (the engine in the video) it was 4 cylinders but 5 valves for each one, which still give the 20v configuration altough from a a diferente, and unusual, type of aproach.
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
JDM Pulsar hatchback has 200ps? did not know.
Arai4lpinestars 2 years ago
thats a damn good engine, but there is another 1.6 thats overlooked a nissan SR16VE N1 has 200ps stock
griplimit 2 years ago
you never seen a 4ag with itbs...
jcp2k 2 years ago
All 20-valves have them stock
Adovansu 2 years ago
OMG4AGITBs
280zx2by2 3 years ago
How was done then?
cat7svx66 3 years ago
ya id like to find out
hillbilly1500 3 years ago
yeah exactly. 3 intake and 2 exhaust. Its much easier to clear exhaust out of the combustion chamber than to fill it with the air/fuel mix. Also by staggering the opening of the intake valves the mixture is "swirled" in the CC which is a boon for combustion effiency. It also nicely fills the 20v pent-roof combustion chamber, which incidentally is used by several F1 motors to this day....
tonytentone 3 years ago
never really understood why 5 valves are any better. 4 valves is still considered the best by most F1 motors including honda AKA best motor in one of the worst cars this year.
rabidhobo4life 3 years ago
Mainly it's because of the way the power is delivered, 5 cilininder engines are known to have wider torque bands and
being smother when you step on the gas.. It RWD cars it's an important feature because if you over-step the gas pedal that power delivery is not so abrut like in a 4 cilinder.
It's almost like the Turbo-lag... no power... still no power.. BANG we're we go. 20v engines are the exact contrary ;)
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
i guess you're talking about valves not about cylinders!
greenpowercr 2 years ago
If it has 4 cylinders, normaly it has 1 ou 2 vavles per each, wich gives 8v ou 16v.. The 20v engine, like Tsuchiya AE86, is a 5 cilinder engine bulit from crosing the 4A-GE engine with the 1.6 litre from the AE111 model ;)
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
ohohoh! now i know what you're talking about, you weren't talking about this particular engine, right!, yes this configuration is rare, i've only seen this in the 1.8T audi/volkswagen engine and this one ;)
greenpowercr 2 years ago
There is others too... the Fiat 2.0 and 2.4 Turbo engines form the Coupé and the Marea. Sorry for my bad spelling :P
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
the Ferrari Modena 360 has a DOHC 40V V-8...thats y thats beast flat out screams
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago
Those fiats are 5 cylinder cars! thats y they got 20 valves (i.e. 4 per cylinder)
olielee8 2 years ago
no your an idiot too, its a 4 Cylinder with 5 Valvers PER Cylinder, get it right... if your confused as to what im talking about, send me an e-mail, i have 16V head pictures, and 20V head pictures to show you the difference.. there is no "added piston/cylinder" 5 Cylinder means 5 Pistons.. thats fucking impossible.
34SkiLLz14Luck 2 years ago
dont think he was talking about the ae86's engine...i kinda remember something about a euro car with a 5 cylinder in my auto class..its set up in a star formation with the crank being in the center..sorry i cant give u a clearer pic
JDMhypebeast 2 years ago
Your an idiot, there is no "5 Cylinder" 4A in Tsuchiya's AE, its called a "20V" basically what he did, was 1 of 2 things, Swapped in the 4A-GE(blacktop/silvertop) 4 Cylinder 1.6L 20 Valve, or took the STOCK 1.6L 16V and added a Silvertop or Blacktop head to the original block (its a cheaper alternative, and since hes turbo the pistons were useless to keep or use from a 20v/16v application)
34SkiLLz14Luck 2 years ago
lol read the post! I was replying to sum1 else about 5 cylinder fiat engines (i.e. the 2.0 coupe turbo and 2.4 stilo abarth) these are inline 5 and fwd, couple of vw's have v5 engines too so its not 'impossible'
olielee8 2 years ago
I never said it was... in fact above that post I've written "In this..." so read it...
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
Tsuchiya's engine is not turboed, it is still a naturally aspirated engine. It is a 20 valve Group A engine, detuned to around 190 horsepower these days.
NLRevZ 2 years ago 2
@GriffkinPT you sir are a dumb shit perhaps a good method would be you Counting the spark plug wires. Tsuchiya drive a 16 valve four cylinder and a 20 valve four cylinder.
7eyedviper 2 years ago
"In this the (the engine in the video) it was 4 cylinders but 5 valves for each one, which still give the 20v configuration"
My comment 7 month ago... under "greenpowecr"... JUST READ!..
GriffkinPT 2 years ago
The things i would do for an AE86 or AW11 with one of them in it... The only thing better than that would be a 10,000rpm+ TRD group A engine, like the N2 Levin's, even if its only got 200bhp, the revvyness (to coin a phrase) is the stuff dreams are made of
neematas 3 years ago
i bet my R-1 has more power i guess thats my mums to lol it has the same set up
hillbilly1500 3 years ago
You really are a hillbilly arnt ya'? This thing would shit on your R1 on a twisty road. Power is not everything.
tonytentone 3 years ago 20
my mums car lol what does mum mean stupid
hillbilly1500 3 years ago
best betul
snoodex 3 years ago
i want those coil packs
MonkiMajyk 3 years ago
love it!
jopop70 4 years ago
sick dude. did u get the whole toda cam package?
RyukoTR 4 years ago
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i bet my R-1 has more hp then that lil thing
hillbilly1500 4 years ago
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how about a 32 valve blown ford that 4 banger isnt even turbo whats the hp or the 1/4 mile time
hillbilly1500 4 years ago
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Jesse4AGE 3 years ago
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wow whats so dam special
hillbilly1500 4 years ago
other than having 20 valves (5 per cylinder) and Individual throttle bodies... resulting in ridiculous throttle response? nothing
chainsaw2239 4 years ago 12
how does that work is it 3 for intake and 2 exhaust?ive heard of that set up but ive never seen it till now....sounds menacing
vtecinfekshun 3 years ago
exactly. the ae101 and ae111 came with them
chainsaw2239 3 years ago
Yeah....and lets not forget its rev happy, lightweight iron, fuel injection, and VVT.
Its amazing.
omegalegato 3 years ago
yes, no doubt. however the 20v doesn't have VVT or VVIS
chainsaw2239 3 years ago
sorry, not VVIS, I meant TVIS
chainsaw2239 3 years ago
@chainsaw2239 Yeah nothing but BOSS SHIT
TheJoeMusashi 1 year ago
5 out of 5 love that engine.
deadxenophobe 4 years ago 2
Too bad, Toyota doesn't produce cars like these anymore.
TheProgrammer 4 years ago 3
i agree
Aushvitze 4 years ago
+3 to that
3dscott 4 years ago
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What about the Scion Xb =P
MikaOwns 4 years ago
AE86 PWNS love that japanees car !! 5/5
icemen77 4 years ago