Let us look at this much closer, shall we? The Galactic Empire spans the length of the whole galaxy in which it is found, which in turn is slightly bigger in size than our own Milky Way. It consists of almost 51 million inhabited stellar systems, and it can travel across its realm with ease.
The Federation is on the other rather tiny and weak, spanning only 150 worlds across 8,000 lightyears.
The winner in this match-up is seemingly enough, all too obvious.
@AVIATIO "The Federation is on the other rather tiny and weak". So was the Rebel Alliance, and they beat the Empire. And the Federation has way more than 150 planets; those are just member worlds. They have hundreds of colonies and starbases.
The Federation may have hundreds of worlds and starbases, the Empire has thousends of Star systems and dozens of planet in each of those. The Empire can clone it's armies. The Federation wouldn't fight alone against the Empire, the Klingon would fight along side them. The war between the Federation, Klingon and the Empire would dwarf that of the Dominion wars.
@187bobafett ...and once again, your statement is invalid. That Enterprise (the least advanced of the seven, by the way) was already heavily damaged from a space battle back in "Azati Prime", and those Stuka fighters were armed with Na'kuhl plasma weaponry. Normal planes wouldn't have even scratched the paint.
@Mitchz95 heres a fight between the enterprise and the SD would look like watch?v=2aTb_cYIseo&context=C3516c6cADOEgsToPDskKdz_Vq8pU8jWflBEqiGHLE LOL
@187bobafett That wasn't the Enterprise, and that wasn't a Star Destroyer. And Federation ships are actually maneuverable enough to dodge weapons-fire. The smaller ones, anyway.
@187bobafett hey why dont you look up the Genesis torpedo? It took God 6 days to create life, Genesis can do it in 6 minutes! Destroy and create at the same time
@Mitchz95 and stardestroyers medium turbolasers have a 200gigaton ouput a and can reduce the planets surface just like the surface on mustafar.. can starfleet with the 24 megaton torpedos can do that? no
@AJay1125ful I disagree. The only thing the Empire really has going for them is resources. The Federation would dominate everything else (except possibly ground battles, but Starfleet ships can obliterate the surface of a planet in minutes).
The Federation has a very bad disadvantage when it faces the Galactic Empire: Size. The Galactic Empire controlled almost a WHOLE GALAXY (save for the Unknown Region of the SWG), the Federation in Star Trek covers only a small part of the galaxy and would be dwarfed by the Galactic Empire. Also the Empire is a Type Three Civilization, using the power of a whole Galaxy while The Federation is Type One.
One Advantage is that the Empire is in a Galaxy far far way for the MWG so no war between them
TheEmpire was not defeated by the Ewoks alone,there was a good number of Rebel troops.In the movies Stormtroopers cant shoot,yet in the comicsand books,they're deadly.They have precise shots there but not in the movies,and thats not really how they are.Imperials also have superior numbers, and weaponry on ground.AT-ATs, and AT-STs.Now for space TheEmpire has superior numbers,no doubt.And just the pure amount of TIE Fighters swarming along side the StarDestroyers would take on a FederationFleet.
@182SnakeCharmer You're assuming there will be a lot of ground battles. Remember, Federation ships can rip all life off a planet in a few minutes if necessary. As for space combat.. I highly doubt the TIE fighters would pose a huge threat...just shoot one photon torpedo at the swarm and BOOM! No more TIEs. And if you think Starfleet can't beat Star Destroyers, watch ths clip of one ship (essentially a big fighter) tearing up a Negh'Var cruiser (skip to 3:32): watch?v=1aLEe1lbzZM
@brenden619 You do realize that Alderaan was undefended? "We have no weapons", Leia said. The planet had no way of protecting itself. Earth, on the other hand, is constantly surrounded by ships of all sizes, all of which would likely come out to fight if necessary. And Starfleet uses fighters too; I imagine they could exploit the same weaknesses the Rebels did.
@Mitchz95 The Death Star was designed to combat Capital Cruisers, so the 1000 turbo lasers would crush any federation capital ships, maybe the escort ships would get through though. Plus if the rebels could beat the Empire i'm sure the Feds would too, but they would get owned at the beginning :D
@KLamki1 What's the maximum range of those turbolasers? Fed ships can wreck things hundreds of kilometers away. And phasers are more powerful that turbolasers - even in the 23rd century, a single Starfleet ship was capable of wiping out a planet from orbit in mere minutes.
And yes, the Feds probably would get owned in the beginning. But I'm sure they would win eventually, like in the Dominion War.
@Mitchz95 Lol I really don't know. You say Turbos are weak next to phasers, yet the Leviathan a ancient republic Interdictor Cruiser had only 4 turbos and 20 quad laser cannons (primitive next to a destroyer) and it wiped out the entire surface of Taris within mins, but I think it took 12 of them to do it. So I guess you only need one star destroyer to wipe out a planet of life. Or do you mean a fed ship can destroy a planet? I wish I could remember that site to compare ships? Oh well..
@Mitchz95 Ok I found out that Turbos are more powerful than Phasers. A star destroyer has different turbos, e.g it has light and heavy turbos. Heavy turbos can produce 2.8 million TW and Feds phasers can produce up to 30,000 TW - 40,000 TW. The Feds cruiser s are only a danger to star fighters, they would totally wipe them out, heavy losses :( I feel bad for Red Squadron
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@Mitchz95 OMFG I read that Star Wars has 400 billion stars! And over 100 billion have been mapped... Doesn't the Feds only have like 150 planet members? The Empire has 25,000 star destroyers! Oh God the Feds can't win! I know I said the rebels beat them, but they only bet them by destroying the Death Star to make the entire galaxy rebel against them! So thats basically half of Billion planets rebelling. The Feds would have to be allies of the rebels to win or have any hope of wining!
@KLamki1 Well, the Feds are pretty resourceful. I'm sure they could upgrade their weapons to penetrate Imperial shields. And the Feds have around 70,000 ships, supposedly. 2-3 per Star Destroyer would be pretty even odds. And if all it takes is one major victory to get everyone on their side, why can't the Feds have one major victory? They have fighters too, right?
@Mitchz95 Yeah your right, plus the bad guys always lose somehow? I mean if they lost their Emperor and Vader they would be disorganised and would have a civil war on who gets to control the Empire. But unless they get the rebels helping them with their tech and upgrading and sharing tech, it would be a horrible massacre. 70,000 ships is like light cruisers and Slave-1 could destroy Enterprise-D, his seismic charge has 12000megatons (missiles 190M) and photons have only 64 megatons.
@KLamki1 Fed ships (at least, the escorts) are fast enough to dodge the seismic charges. While some of the cruisers like the Galaxy would no doubt be cannon fodder, escorts like the Defiant would be more than capable of trashing Imperial ships, whether they be big Star Destroyers or tiny TIE fighters.
Actually, from what we've seen, most federation ships struggle to keep any sort of pace with ships in their own universe. They also suffer from quite lacking maneuverability, and severely restricted fire arcs from their weapons systems. Nearly every alien race in Star Trek has a faster, more maneuverable, harder hitting ship. And let's not forget that for all the press, Federation vessels are routinely heavily damaged or destroyed by lasers.
@ambosen As I've been repeatedly stating, they have much better maneuverability than most other ships their size. And "restricted fir arcs"? They have beam arrays that can target pretty much any direction, and their torpedoes are self-guiding to a large degree. And yes, some of the weaker ships like the Miranda get one-shotted occasionally, but cruisers like the Galaxy and even fast escorts like the Defiant can take a lot of damage before they're in serious trouble.
@Mitchz95 It would be a awesome battle though if the rebels teamed up with the feds. The Feds would be on the run after that horrible 70,000 ships head on battle, it would be like the battle of wolf 359 but worse. Finally they would get a help from the rebels (bursting from hyper space with fleet of MC80Bs and MC90s) and give time for the Feds to run. Then they have to get support from the rebels and just hit and run, and use stratagy against the Empire. Can't wait to play STO, I like Feds.
@Mitchz95 Oh and don't worry, i'm sure the Feds will encounter a furry and cute race that is so primitive that it can destroy a entire Legion of the Empires best troopers, then somehow use tree logs to blowup the shield generator, protecting the Death Star. After that a Jawa somehow drops a photon grenade launcher down the reactor destroying the Death Star and 40 star destroyers! WTF George Lucas!
@Mitchz95 Actually, until the Dominion war, we do not see a single federation ship which handles any task but as a general cruiser, or launch. The Defiant is very obviously a corvette, and it's weapons yield and armor are sadly, about on par for the converted freighters the maquis used. Federation tactics against the Borg (which the Defiant was designed to fight) emphasized raw numbers. There's a reason so many ships were lost at Wolf 359.
@Mitchz95 Actually, until the Dominion war, we do not see a single federation ship which handles any task but as a general cruiser, or launch. The Defiant is very obviously a corvette, and it's weapons yield and armor are sadly, about on par for the converted freighters the maquis used. Federation tactics against the Borg (which the Defiant was designed to fight) emphasized raw numbers. There's a reason so many ships were lost at Wolf 359.
@heavy123212321 Federation ships are way too maneuverable for that superlaser to hit. And besides, Star Destroyers are overrated. Remember in Episode V when three shots from an ion cannon disabled one? Heck, Han Solo trashed three of them later in the movie just by tricking them into crashing into one another! Watch this video (skip to 3:32) and then tell me the Federation doesn't have a chance against the Star Destroyers: watch?v=1aLEe1lbzZM
but if they attack us with sstar ships we'll use the main laser on the death star wich of course vaporises any thing heck use the same laser on the planets they stole frim us!
the starfleet wont win everyone knows you killa storm trooper 100 take his place that and the death stars super laser has the power to destroy anything so the starfleets doomed
@heavy123212321 The same Death Star that got vaporized by thirty rebel fighters? The same Stormtroopers that got wiped out by Ewoks? I agree that the Imperials would probably win all the ground battles, but Starfleet ships can easily wipe out the surface of a planet in minutes.
Very nicely crafted trailer. My only complaint would be the echo-ish sound of the voices. Other than that, very nicely cut and an entertaining concept.
I'm not sure if the Federation would be able to completely defeat the Empire...the Empire is way too big and has way too many resources. What I think the Feds would do instead would be to find a way of cutting off the Imperials from our galaxy, then defeat whatever forces were stuck here. In other words, same way the won the Dominion War.
The problem with the Empire is that it is decadent and static. The Federation is very adaptive. What the Empire has over the Federation though is the sheer amount of resources in raw materials and manpower. But then again, the Empire was brought down by a bunch of teddy bears and 1 turncoat who threw his emperor down an exhaust shaft.
Are we talking about the same Federation that has produced no new music in 300 years? Which has one of the lowest technological levels in it's own universe? Which nearly lost the Alpha Quadrant to the Dominion? Which has repeatedly yielded territory to belligerent empires due to total inability to defend it's existing territory? Which was willing to turn weapons on it's own people rather then fight an winnable war? Which refuses to allow life saving genetic engineering?
@ambosen Since when do the Feds have weak technology? They won the Dominion War not just from firepower, but because they strategized and made alliances. They only really yield territory when they think it will keep the peace, and they do have limits to how much they give up. When did they turn weapons on their own people? They refuse genetic engineering because of the devastation it caused during the Eugenics wars. And what does music have to do with anything?
@Mitchz95 They "won" it because they genetically engineered a horrifying weapon which was killing the Dominion's leadership which they tested by using it against a Federation citizen, namely Odo. Any time they went up against the Dominion, or for that matter, the Cardassian Union, the general rule was 90% or greater casualties of Federation forces. They were unable to effectively blockade the wormhole which was the sole route Dominion forces could take into the Alpha Quadrant.
@ambosen The "horrifying weapon" was created by an unsanctioned faction who had no legal authority in the Federation. And a lot more that 10% of the Federation forces survived most battles, otherwise they would have lost the war in weeks. They did blockade the wormhole in "Call to Arms", but then the Dominion captured the station and (after a LOT of effort) took down the mines. After that the Feds made friends with the Prophets, who made sure no more Dominion ships could come through.
@Mitchz95 An "unsanctioned" force which has existed since the earliest days of the federation and who's existence and extremely broad extent of authority is specifically mentioned by name in the Starfleet charter. Which can reliably call upon federation resources, and it's not like it's the first time we've seen the federation do something highly immoral to achieve it's own ends. Nor even remotely close to the last. By the way: the 90% casualties figure comes directly from DS9.
@Mitchz95 Why wouldn't they? He was the only identified shapeshifter in federation space at the time. They used him to infect the shapeshifters. It's no different then when various nations during world war II tested biological and chemical weapons on their own citizenry as well as foreign nationals. It's about as likely that Odo's exposure was accidental as it is the methodical forced relocation of Maquis settlements oft times involving force was a diplomatic gesture to the Maquis.
@ambosen Section 31's not mentioned by name, the charter just allows for "bending the rules" a little in times of extreme risk. Section 31 takes it far beyond that, as was evidenced in DS9 Season 7. Odo was meant to be the carrier of the virus, but S31 supposedly tried to isolate Odo's genes so he wouldn't become afflicted. Remember, it took a lot longer for him to develop symptoms.
@Mitchz95 Actually, we don't know how long symptoms took to develop for Odo *or* the Founders, because noone ever says just *when* they were infected. Secondly, as Enterprise shows, Section 31 pre-dates the Federation proper.*Third* Odo was the only known "founder" Section 31 had access to. They create a bioweapon that can't affect him, they don't have one to kill the founders. This isn't creating a virus from a pre-existing pathogen to kill an already well known species, Mitch.
@ambosen And I'm not defending 31's actions, I'm just saying that you can't condemn the whole Federation because of them. No faction is entirely perfect, though - the Feds did have their flaws even without S31. And which episode did the "90%" quote come from?
@Mitchz95 Well since, you started on that... We know from TOS, TNG, and DS9 that personal weapons ownership is illegal in federation space, and forcible relocation of federation citizens is disturbingly commonplace. We know the Federation has participated in genocides and has several times in the past, been put under military control by Starfleet. Finally, we never see a lawfully elected representative in the government of the Federation or any federation world.Not even on earth.
@ambosen On S31...yeah, they predated the Federation. So what? They started out serving UE, then just moved on to UFP when it was founded. Odo was infected halfway through Season 4 (Homefront) and infected the Great Link when he linked with the Female Changeling in early Season Six, as was repeatedly stated in Season 7. Weyoun 6 reported to Odo not long after that the virus was spreading (T,F,ATGR). Odo didn't develop symptoms until nearly the end of Season 7.
@Mitchz95 You know what else did? Starfleet. Starfleet's in the charter. Section 31's in the charter. Thereofore both organizations are continuations of previous agencies.
@ambosen Section 31 is NOT referenced by name in the Charter. Sloan was referencing their namesake: Article 14, Section 31 of the Starfleet Charter, which allows extraordinary measures to be taken in the face of extreme threat. And the "policy meetings" in HF/PL were exceptions because Starfleet was being given more freedom in light of the Changeling infiltration. I'm not saying Starfleet and the Federation are "perfect", just that they're not oppressive powers like, say, the Romulans.
@ambosen And it would have been simple enough to make Odo immune; just isolate his genes and leave the rest. They probably had samples of Changeling material to test on, anyway. On the Feds: we saw the President and a few other politicians in Homefront and Paradise Lost.
@ambosen I wouldn't say forced relocation is "commonplace"; but it happens ocassionally when the alternative is a violent conflict that would, more likely than not, affect the same people anyway. And the two aforementioned episodes are the only example I can think of where the Federation was under military control.
@Mitchz95 We never see any hint they aren't except in one movie; it's worth noting that the "president" still isn't allowed into policy meetings. This is a typical trait of military regimes.
@Mitchz95 The Federation is a power in technological and cultural decline. Much like Rome was shortly before it's collapse.Even in TNG we see the Federation often trying to force compliance by Federation worlds who's citizens have very good reason not to trust the Federation. Time and time again, we see them yield territory unnecessarily. Much like Rome did.These are not actions of major military power able or willing to defend it's territory, which the Federation calls itself.
@southparkfan2717 yeah, the same empire that was defeated on the ground by wookies, the same empire who's massive star ship was destroyed by a small fleet of untrained rebels piloting outdated space crafts. the same one going up against an armada of military trained personel in military grade space crafts.
this should be an actual movie. A star wars vs. star trek movie would be epic. It would be seen around the globe. It would take at least 3 hurricanes to take fame over this. and really big hurricanes at that.
You guys may thing that Star wars would win, but if they planted that red that was used to destroy Vulcan, in the death star, it would be history, and so would Vader and the Emperor.
@Sarasdad91 a rebel commando team would board the enterprise, destroy the red matter and the Death star would blow up all of star trek. Star wars would win. Kirk ate the pop tart cat.
Not at all. The Xindi weapon has nowhere near the might that the Death Star has. This is evident just by watching "A New Hope." The Death Star can blow planets up, making their contents fling outwasrds very violently. The Xindi weapon takes many seconds on the other hand simply to crack a planet like an egg, then to hurtle its remains into space at an extremely slow speed. The two show a hugely differing scale of might, with the Death Star being many hundreds of thousands of times more powerful.
@CorruptCoreCaption General Grevous was destroyed by Obi-Wan Kanobi during this time in Star Wars history. And the Malevolence was destroyed by the Republic.
@fayt296133 The Empire was destroyed by a small group of terrorists. A group that was much smaller then the federation. So NO CONTEST FEDERATION WINS!
@slicktyler Yes because they infiltrated the GE and it took them years to do that, if the Rebellion and Empire put all their ships out all their fleets and all, the Empire would win hands down.
@sozincomet that's like saying in a straight fight the North Vietnamese would have been destroyed by the US forces or the British in the revolutionary war would have destroyed the americans in a straight fight. Sure that's possible but that information is useful to no one.
@slicktyler In a total annihilation war the GE would win, they have 25,000 member planets, the Federation has 150. Don't get wrong, I love both franchises, but in an all out war, even if the Federation had the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire, that's maybe 800 planets, if that.
You make a good point, though, I think it's safe to say that starships are generally more powerful than star destroyers. Sisko took on what would be a Klingon equivalent to a star destroyer, with the Defiant forcing a retreat. Secondly, like with the Dominion War, the Klingon Empire, Federation and Romulan Star Empire would form an alliance. Even the Breen, Tholians and Gorn would likely join the alliance given the circumstance.
@Dalbert342 The Death star would blow up the puny enterprise and darth vader would kill all the borg with a single force choke. Kirk and Spock would commit suicide if they saw the Malevalence and death star.
@DoctorStrangeFate Unfortunately, most of star Wars weaponry seems based on particle cannon technology rather than laser weapons. Starfleet shielding has a problem dealing with that type of weaponry.
Because I've seen all Wars and Trek movies, this looks stupid and feels severely contrived. But taking it in from the perspective of someone who's hasn't seen any of them and this is probably the most professional mashup I've ever seen. Either way, excellent editing style and really good music. Love Palpatine's laughter at the end.
Each has it's own fan base and if you don't know enough about one or only hear bad things about it from your friends or zealous
fanatics with Spock or Vader shirts, you'll only get a bad impression anyway. Some people like the books better, simply because of how the movies portray certain elements. And
go ahead and ask any Trekkie or Star Wars fan how many books they've read about the rival series.
So I'll reiterate that I do like both series, not really having a favorite of the two. I do like Jedi/Sith fighting games and Trekkie space ship games, so best of both worlds.
So take your pick if you'd rather wear your bath robe or your pajamas into battle. Star Wars and Star Trek have a lot of strengths and weaknesses all their own. You don't have
Whenever someone leaves in Star Wars, they are usually killed and don't come back, but it
tends to be meaningful. I'm less satisfied with how Star Trek kills off it's characters. Tasha Yar, Kirk, and Data, being good examples. However for a couple of them more story
about the technology and more about the story behind the characters. The rise and fall, and eventual redemption of Anakin. Star Trek focused more on the bigger picture, which
allowed for characters to come and go or hand the reigns over to a new generation.
The best thing to do is pick up a book about whichever universe you like best. The movies are directed in completely different ways (except for the most recent Star Trek).
There's a lot more depth to each one and I've just been giving my opinion on what you can easily see on screen. Unfortunately thats all a lot of people go on. Some people hate
the new take on Star Trek, but it makes you think about what both series would be like if they had the same style when it comes to the movies.
from one place to another has been debated for years. Converting matter into energy is already being researched, however it's the "putting it back together" part that is in
There is a lot to debate and I see a lot of points both ways, you don't have to take it personal. There's a lot of conjecture about what pseudo-science is and isn't. Containing
a lightsaber's length to a certain managable size and ability to repel beams while it can burn through solid matter could be contradictory as well.
The Death Star is the pinnacle of Star Wars technology, but it was a failure. They could have adapted it into smaller forms and
stuck it onto the Star Destroyers. Unfortunately the Borg would assimilate the Death Star, but make no attempt to fix it's design flaws. Why would they when it can just
regenerate after being destroyed. But now Star Trek has Red Matter (Which has more of a disaster than a benefit. Can we play with Omega molecule's now?)
Star Wars has seemingly been around for thousands of years while much of Star Trek is measured in centuries. However while Star Trek focuses on smaller scale stuff and new
technologies, Star Wars has been mass producing the same technology for thousands of years. Sure it looks shinier, but are all space ships equiped with the exact same weaponry?
Star Wars wins on it's variety of different races of all shapes and sizes, however this is probably because of budget issues and not because inhumanoid races didn't exist for
the most part in Star Trek. Species 8472 (Undine) for example.
In one episode of Star Trek it was implied that the humanoid races were somehow all created at least in part by an
Star Wars and it's mass production technology did beat over Star Trek when it comes to artificial intelligence. While Star Trek has the Borg and Data as it's primary source of
A.I. Star Wars has countless droids and people who walked into the way of a lightsaber needing new appendages.
So both have their technilogical design flaws. You don't even have to know science to see it. You can easily compare the Empire to the Borg. Both have almost limitless
resources, but the Empire lacks true self preservation instincts (At least Vader was smart enough to have shields on his TIE Fighter). The Borg however, are too stubborn to try
destroy a Borg Cube. And speaking of the Borg. For as dangerous as they are at close range, if you can outrun a turtle you are relatively safe. In all the species they have
assimilated, not one has brought the strategy to the collective or perhaps, running after their targets or using projectile or atmospheric assimilation processes.
When it comes to hand to hand combat and the like, Jedi and Sith definately have the advantage. However what people forget is they only make up a small number of people at
least in later movies. A phaser could probably be deflected just as easily as any handheld energy weapon. There seems to be some major design flaws when it comes to technology
in both series. For instance with how destructive the Death Star is, it has the major design flaw that a single X-Wing can destroy it.
Lol I love how angry people get when it comes to Star Wars vs Star Trek. I'm actually a fan of both. Here's my thoughts on some of the topic open to debate.
@TheDalekslayer Every SW superweapon seems to be either underpowered or overdesigned.....if 1 X-wing managed to destroy the Death Star,imagine what 2-3 Prometheus class ships would do to it lol Starfleet couldn't lose against the Empire even if they were trying
@Dalbert342 the ds-1 had one major design flaw, DS-2 didn't, and the only reason why DS-2 was destroyed cause the Imperial Navy was ordered not to engage the Alliance until the Emperor sprung his trap
ans Star Wars Ships are much better
Super Star Destroyers are a good example
and at least over a thousand Imperial I and Imperial II class Star Destroyers
@TheDalekslayer Star Trek's U.S.S. Enterprise can easily destroy continents, and can level an M-class planet's surface with just it's phasers, as per the Original Series episodes "the Cage", "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it very outdated. It has also easily survived high-heat-plasma weapons. (ST:TMP)
@TheDalekslayer Super Star Destroyers are a horrible example. The entire thing lost control when the bridge was destroyed by a single a-wing. Not even our Navy ships are that poorly designed. If the bridge is destroyed on a US navy ship the ship still operates it still has communication through out the ship as well as weapons and targeting and movement
A single asteroid takes out a regular star destroyer in ESB. The DS2 was too large it was large enough to fly the MF through it.
@sandvichman327 you're missing the point. See in a modern Aircraft carrier for example the bridge doesn't actually control anything. It's just there to give orders. Then the different sections ie engineering, weapon control and so on which are spread out across the ship can respond even if the bridge is destroyed. So if you cut the head off the snake it can still attack. Otherwise you have a HUGE weakspot.
Let us look at this much closer, shall we? The Galactic Empire spans the length of the whole galaxy in which it is found, which in turn is slightly bigger in size than our own Milky Way. It consists of almost 51 million inhabited stellar systems, and it can travel across its realm with ease.
The Federation is on the other rather tiny and weak, spanning only 150 worlds across 8,000 lightyears.
The winner in this match-up is seemingly enough, all too obvious.
AVIATIO 3 days ago
@AVIATIO "The Federation is on the other rather tiny and weak". So was the Rebel Alliance, and they beat the Empire. And the Federation has way more than 150 planets; those are just member worlds. They have hundreds of colonies and starbases.
Mitchz95 3 days ago
The Federation may have hundreds of worlds and starbases, the Empire has thousends of Star systems and dozens of planet in each of those. The Empire can clone it's armies. The Federation wouldn't fight alone against the Empire, the Klingon would fight along side them. The war between the Federation, Klingon and the Empire would dwarf that of the Dominion wars.
mars8808 3 days ago
@Mitchz95 look here yo /watch?v=y2RoCsD_vOY enterprise can get easily damaged by world war 2 fighters :P imagine ties and sd's
187bobafett 5 days ago
@187bobafett ...and once again, your statement is invalid. That Enterprise (the least advanced of the seven, by the way) was already heavily damaged from a space battle back in "Azati Prime", and those Stuka fighters were armed with Na'kuhl plasma weaponry. Normal planes wouldn't have even scratched the paint.
Mitchz95 5 days ago
@Mitchz95 heres a fight between the enterprise and the SD would look like watch?v=2aTb_cYIseo&context=C3516c6cADOEgsToPDskKdz_Vq8pU8jWflBEqiGHLE LOL
187bobafett 6 days ago
@187bobafett That wasn't the Enterprise, and that wasn't a Star Destroyer. And Federation ships are actually maneuverable enough to dodge weapons-fire. The smaller ones, anyway.
Mitchz95 5 days ago
@Blopdomia hey why dont you look at the shawken device it can destroy the entire universe in minutes and can create another universe in minutes.
187bobafett 6 days ago
@187bobafett And why, tell me, would the Empire want to destroy the universe? What would that get them?
Mitchz95 5 days ago
@187bobafett hey why dont you look up the Genesis torpedo? It took God 6 days to create life, Genesis can do it in 6 minutes! Destroy and create at the same time
Blopdomia 6 days ago
MAKE IT! MAKE IT! MAKE IT!
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Azhari1998 1 week ago
@Mitchz95 and stardestroyers medium turbolasers have a 200gigaton ouput a and can reduce the planets surface just like the surface on mustafar.. can starfleet with the 24 megaton torpedos can do that? no
187bobafett 1 week ago
@187bobafett Yes, actually. The 23rd-century Enterprise was capable of razing a planet in minutes, to say nothing of the 24th-century ones.
Mitchz95 1 week ago
Galactic Empire will destroy the star fleet.
AJay1125ful 1 week ago
@AJay1125ful I disagree. The only thing the Empire really has going for them is resources. The Federation would dominate everything else (except possibly ground battles, but Starfleet ships can obliterate the surface of a planet in minutes).
Mitchz95 1 week ago
The Federation has a very bad disadvantage when it faces the Galactic Empire: Size. The Galactic Empire controlled almost a WHOLE GALAXY (save for the Unknown Region of the SWG), the Federation in Star Trek covers only a small part of the galaxy and would be dwarfed by the Galactic Empire. Also the Empire is a Type Three Civilization, using the power of a whole Galaxy while The Federation is Type One.
One Advantage is that the Empire is in a Galaxy far far way for the MWG so no war between them
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richardfrost1234 3 weeks ago
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RIght on!
zenmonk9003 1 month ago
TheEmpire was not defeated by the Ewoks alone,there was a good number of Rebel troops.In the movies Stormtroopers cant shoot,yet in the comicsand books,they're deadly.They have precise shots there but not in the movies,and thats not really how they are.Imperials also have superior numbers, and weaponry on ground.AT-ATs, and AT-STs.Now for space TheEmpire has superior numbers,no doubt.And just the pure amount of TIE Fighters swarming along side the StarDestroyers would take on a FederationFleet.
182SnakeCharmer 1 month ago
@182SnakeCharmer You're assuming there will be a lot of ground battles. Remember, Federation ships can rip all life off a planet in a few minutes if necessary. As for space combat.. I highly doubt the TIE fighters would pose a huge threat...just shoot one photon torpedo at the swarm and BOOM! No more TIEs. And if you think Starfleet can't beat Star Destroyers, watch ths clip of one ship (essentially a big fighter) tearing up a Negh'Var cruiser (skip to 3:32): watch?v=1aLEe1lbzZM
Mitchz95 1 month ago
@Mitchz95 The death star destroyed alderaaan, = EARTH, NO MORE STARFLEET... WHAT?
brenden619 1 month ago
@brenden619 You do realize that Alderaan was undefended? "We have no weapons", Leia said. The planet had no way of protecting itself. Earth, on the other hand, is constantly surrounded by ships of all sizes, all of which would likely come out to fight if necessary. And Starfleet uses fighters too; I imagine they could exploit the same weaknesses the Rebels did.
Mitchz95 1 month ago
@Mitchz95 The Death Star was designed to combat Capital Cruisers, so the 1000 turbo lasers would crush any federation capital ships, maybe the escort ships would get through though. Plus if the rebels could beat the Empire i'm sure the Feds would too, but they would get owned at the beginning :D
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@KLamki1 What's the maximum range of those turbolasers? Fed ships can wreck things hundreds of kilometers away. And phasers are more powerful that turbolasers - even in the 23rd century, a single Starfleet ship was capable of wiping out a planet from orbit in mere minutes.
And yes, the Feds probably would get owned in the beginning. But I'm sure they would win eventually, like in the Dominion War.
Mitchz95 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Lol I really don't know. You say Turbos are weak next to phasers, yet the Leviathan a ancient republic Interdictor Cruiser had only 4 turbos and 20 quad laser cannons (primitive next to a destroyer) and it wiped out the entire surface of Taris within mins, but I think it took 12 of them to do it. So I guess you only need one star destroyer to wipe out a planet of life. Or do you mean a fed ship can destroy a planet? I wish I could remember that site to compare ships? Oh well..
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Ok I found out that Turbos are more powerful than Phasers. A star destroyer has different turbos, e.g it has light and heavy turbos. Heavy turbos can produce 2.8 million TW and Feds phasers can produce up to 30,000 TW - 40,000 TW. The Feds cruiser s are only a danger to star fighters, they would totally wipe them out, heavy losses :( I feel bad for Red Squadron
Biggs "pull up Porkins!" Porkins "Its alright... I can handle it.. Enterprise E (drops soda and french fries) Oh Shit!!!
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 OMFG I read that Star Wars has 400 billion stars! And over 100 billion have been mapped... Doesn't the Feds only have like 150 planet members? The Empire has 25,000 star destroyers! Oh God the Feds can't win! I know I said the rebels beat them, but they only bet them by destroying the Death Star to make the entire galaxy rebel against them! So thats basically half of Billion planets rebelling. The Feds would have to be allies of the rebels to win or have any hope of wining!
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@KLamki1 Well, the Feds are pretty resourceful. I'm sure they could upgrade their weapons to penetrate Imperial shields. And the Feds have around 70,000 ships, supposedly. 2-3 per Star Destroyer would be pretty even odds. And if all it takes is one major victory to get everyone on their side, why can't the Feds have one major victory? They have fighters too, right?
Mitchz95 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Yeah your right, plus the bad guys always lose somehow? I mean if they lost their Emperor and Vader they would be disorganised and would have a civil war on who gets to control the Empire. But unless they get the rebels helping them with their tech and upgrading and sharing tech, it would be a horrible massacre. 70,000 ships is like light cruisers and Slave-1 could destroy Enterprise-D, his seismic charge has 12000megatons (missiles 190M) and photons have only 64 megatons.
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@KLamki1 Fed ships (at least, the escorts) are fast enough to dodge the seismic charges. While some of the cruisers like the Galaxy would no doubt be cannon fodder, escorts like the Defiant would be more than capable of trashing Imperial ships, whether they be big Star Destroyers or tiny TIE fighters.
Mitchz95 3 weeks ago
Actually, from what we've seen, most federation ships struggle to keep any sort of pace with ships in their own universe. They also suffer from quite lacking maneuverability, and severely restricted fire arcs from their weapons systems. Nearly every alien race in Star Trek has a faster, more maneuverable, harder hitting ship. And let's not forget that for all the press, Federation vessels are routinely heavily damaged or destroyed by lasers.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen As I've been repeatedly stating, they have much better maneuverability than most other ships their size. And "restricted fir arcs"? They have beam arrays that can target pretty much any direction, and their torpedoes are self-guiding to a large degree. And yes, some of the weaker ships like the Miranda get one-shotted occasionally, but cruisers like the Galaxy and even fast escorts like the Defiant can take a lot of damage before they're in serious trouble.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 It would be a awesome battle though if the rebels teamed up with the feds. The Feds would be on the run after that horrible 70,000 ships head on battle, it would be like the battle of wolf 359 but worse. Finally they would get a help from the rebels (bursting from hyper space with fleet of MC80Bs and MC90s) and give time for the Feds to run. Then they have to get support from the rebels and just hit and run, and use stratagy against the Empire. Can't wait to play STO, I like Feds.
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Oh and don't worry, i'm sure the Feds will encounter a furry and cute race that is so primitive that it can destroy a entire Legion of the Empires best troopers, then somehow use tree logs to blowup the shield generator, protecting the Death Star. After that a Jawa somehow drops a photon grenade launcher down the reactor destroying the Death Star and 40 star destroyers! WTF George Lucas!
KLamki1 3 weeks ago
@KLamki1 Tribbles. There, all done.
Idazmi7 3 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Actually, until the Dominion war, we do not see a single federation ship which handles any task but as a general cruiser, or launch. The Defiant is very obviously a corvette, and it's weapons yield and armor are sadly, about on par for the converted freighters the maquis used. Federation tactics against the Borg (which the Defiant was designed to fight) emphasized raw numbers. There's a reason so many ships were lost at Wolf 359.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
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@Mitchz95 Actually, until the Dominion war, we do not see a single federation ship which handles any task but as a general cruiser, or launch. The Defiant is very obviously a corvette, and it's weapons yield and armor are sadly, about on par for the converted freighters the maquis used. Federation tactics against the Borg (which the Defiant was designed to fight) emphasized raw numbers. There's a reason so many ships were lost at Wolf 359.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
ok to be fair it would have to be the federation vs the rebels & the empire vs the Borg. Either way star wars is doomed.
shadovex28 1 month ago
Screw star trek. For the empire!
heavy123212321 1 month ago
for every starfleet ship there is 1 trilion star destroyers
heavy123212321 1 month ago
@heavy123212321 Federation ships are way too maneuverable for that superlaser to hit. And besides, Star Destroyers are overrated. Remember in Episode V when three shots from an ion cannon disabled one? Heck, Han Solo trashed three of them later in the movie just by tricking them into crashing into one another! Watch this video (skip to 3:32) and then tell me the Federation doesn't have a chance against the Star Destroyers: watch?v=1aLEe1lbzZM
Mitchz95 1 month ago
but if they attack us with sstar ships we'll use the main laser on the death star wich of course vaporises any thing heck use the same laser on the planets they stole frim us!
heavy123212321 1 month ago
the starfleet wont win everyone knows you killa storm trooper 100 take his place that and the death stars super laser has the power to destroy anything so the starfleets doomed
heavy123212321 1 month ago
@heavy123212321 The same Death Star that got vaporized by thirty rebel fighters? The same Stormtroopers that got wiped out by Ewoks? I agree that the Imperials would probably win all the ground battles, but Starfleet ships can easily wipe out the surface of a planet in minutes.
Mitchz95 1 month ago
fake
Anthone24 1 month ago
Very nicely crafted trailer. My only complaint would be the echo-ish sound of the voices. Other than that, very nicely cut and an entertaining concept.
idrenegade 1 month ago
I'm not sure if the Federation would be able to completely defeat the Empire...the Empire is way too big and has way too many resources. What I think the Feds would do instead would be to find a way of cutting off the Imperials from our galaxy, then defeat whatever forces were stuck here. In other words, same way the won the Dominion War.
Mitchz95 1 month ago
@Mitchz95 And the sphere builders don't forget.
smokesceen124 1 month ago
@Mitchz95 Agreed.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
The problem with the Empire is that it is decadent and static. The Federation is very adaptive. What the Empire has over the Federation though is the sheer amount of resources in raw materials and manpower. But then again, the Empire was brought down by a bunch of teddy bears and 1 turncoat who threw his emperor down an exhaust shaft.
eXcommunicate1979 1 month ago 8
@eXcommunicate1979 The emperor comes back to his clone as a force ghost... just no movie to show it :)
brenden619 1 month ago
@brenden619 acording to George Lucas and Leeland Chee nothing that happens after Return of the Jedi is considered canon.
slicktyler 3 weeks ago
Are we talking about the same Federation that has produced no new music in 300 years? Which has one of the lowest technological levels in it's own universe? Which nearly lost the Alpha Quadrant to the Dominion? Which has repeatedly yielded territory to belligerent empires due to total inability to defend it's existing territory? Which was willing to turn weapons on it's own people rather then fight an winnable war? Which refuses to allow life saving genetic engineering?
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen Since when do the Feds have weak technology? They won the Dominion War not just from firepower, but because they strategized and made alliances. They only really yield territory when they think it will keep the peace, and they do have limits to how much they give up. When did they turn weapons on their own people? They refuse genetic engineering because of the devastation it caused during the Eugenics wars. And what does music have to do with anything?
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 They "won" it because they genetically engineered a horrifying weapon which was killing the Dominion's leadership which they tested by using it against a Federation citizen, namely Odo. Any time they went up against the Dominion, or for that matter, the Cardassian Union, the general rule was 90% or greater casualties of Federation forces. They were unable to effectively blockade the wormhole which was the sole route Dominion forces could take into the Alpha Quadrant.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen The "horrifying weapon" was created by an unsanctioned faction who had no legal authority in the Federation. And a lot more that 10% of the Federation forces survived most battles, otherwise they would have lost the war in weeks. They did blockade the wormhole in "Call to Arms", but then the Dominion captured the station and (after a LOT of effort) took down the mines. After that the Feds made friends with the Prophets, who made sure no more Dominion ships could come through.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 An "unsanctioned" force which has existed since the earliest days of the federation and who's existence and extremely broad extent of authority is specifically mentioned by name in the Starfleet charter. Which can reliably call upon federation resources, and it's not like it's the first time we've seen the federation do something highly immoral to achieve it's own ends. Nor even remotely close to the last. By the way: the 90% casualties figure comes directly from DS9.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen And Section 31 didn't expect Odo to develop symptoms, though I agree that's no excuse.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Why wouldn't they? He was the only identified shapeshifter in federation space at the time. They used him to infect the shapeshifters. It's no different then when various nations during world war II tested biological and chemical weapons on their own citizenry as well as foreign nationals. It's about as likely that Odo's exposure was accidental as it is the methodical forced relocation of Maquis settlements oft times involving force was a diplomatic gesture to the Maquis.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen Section 31's not mentioned by name, the charter just allows for "bending the rules" a little in times of extreme risk. Section 31 takes it far beyond that, as was evidenced in DS9 Season 7. Odo was meant to be the carrier of the virus, but S31 supposedly tried to isolate Odo's genes so he wouldn't become afflicted. Remember, it took a lot longer for him to develop symptoms.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Actually, we don't know how long symptoms took to develop for Odo *or* the Founders, because noone ever says just *when* they were infected. Secondly, as Enterprise shows, Section 31 pre-dates the Federation proper.*Third* Odo was the only known "founder" Section 31 had access to. They create a bioweapon that can't affect him, they don't have one to kill the founders. This isn't creating a virus from a pre-existing pathogen to kill an already well known species, Mitch.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen And I'm not defending 31's actions, I'm just saying that you can't condemn the whole Federation because of them. No faction is entirely perfect, though - the Feds did have their flaws even without S31. And which episode did the "90%" quote come from?
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 Well since, you started on that... We know from TOS, TNG, and DS9 that personal weapons ownership is illegal in federation space, and forcible relocation of federation citizens is disturbingly commonplace. We know the Federation has participated in genocides and has several times in the past, been put under military control by Starfleet. Finally, we never see a lawfully elected representative in the government of the Federation or any federation world.Not even on earth.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen On S31...yeah, they predated the Federation. So what? They started out serving UE, then just moved on to UFP when it was founded. Odo was infected halfway through Season 4 (Homefront) and infected the Great Link when he linked with the Female Changeling in early Season Six, as was repeatedly stated in Season 7. Weyoun 6 reported to Odo not long after that the virus was spreading (T,F,ATGR). Odo didn't develop symptoms until nearly the end of Season 7.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 You know what else did? Starfleet. Starfleet's in the charter. Section 31's in the charter. Thereofore both organizations are continuations of previous agencies.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@ambosen Section 31 is NOT referenced by name in the Charter. Sloan was referencing their namesake: Article 14, Section 31 of the Starfleet Charter, which allows extraordinary measures to be taken in the face of extreme threat. And the "policy meetings" in HF/PL were exceptions because Starfleet was being given more freedom in light of the Changeling infiltration. I'm not saying Starfleet and the Federation are "perfect", just that they're not oppressive powers like, say, the Romulans.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@ambosen And it would have been simple enough to make Odo immune; just isolate his genes and leave the rest. They probably had samples of Changeling material to test on, anyway. On the Feds: we saw the President and a few other politicians in Homefront and Paradise Lost.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@ambosen I wouldn't say forced relocation is "commonplace"; but it happens ocassionally when the alternative is a violent conflict that would, more likely than not, affect the same people anyway. And the two aforementioned episodes are the only example I can think of where the Federation was under military control.
Mitchz95 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 We never see any hint they aren't except in one movie; it's worth noting that the "president" still isn't allowed into policy meetings. This is a typical trait of military regimes.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
@Mitchz95 The Federation is a power in technological and cultural decline. Much like Rome was shortly before it's collapse.Even in TNG we see the Federation often trying to force compliance by Federation worlds who's citizens have very good reason not to trust the Federation. Time and time again, we see them yield territory unnecessarily. Much like Rome did.These are not actions of major military power able or willing to defend it's territory, which the Federation calls itself.
ambosen 2 weeks ago
many heads would explode
luigi19987 1 month ago
the empire doesn't stand a chance against the federation
r0b0tj0n3s 1 month ago
@r0b0tj0n3s The Empire, you mean the organization with a ship that destroys planets in a single blast? They don't stand a chance?
southparkfan2717 1 month ago
@southparkfan2717 yeah, the same empire that was defeated on the ground by wookies, the same empire who's massive star ship was destroyed by a small fleet of untrained rebels piloting outdated space crafts. the same one going up against an armada of military trained personel in military grade space crafts.
r0b0tj0n3s 1 month ago
@r0b0tj0n3s ewoks,good sir...the rebels were obviously trained that assault on the death star wasn't their first mission
666PTH 1 month ago
This should be a movie
undsiouxfan 2 months ago
They should make a movie out of this.
clonetrooper67ofness 2 months ago
Thanks for uploading this....awesome fan-made trailer! :)
animatorFan74 2 months ago
this is by far the best star wars vs star trek mash up I've seen!
MoMmAKiSsSi 2 months ago
this should be an actual movie. A star wars vs. star trek movie would be epic. It would be seen around the globe. It would take at least 3 hurricanes to take fame over this. and really big hurricanes at that.
MrLinkspy5 2 months ago
ALL HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!!
galenmarekjr 2 months ago 2
Regardless of who you think would or should win, this would be epic. Very, very, epic.
ThePeanutbutterbunny 2 months ago
You guys may thing that Star wars would win, but if they planted that red that was used to destroy Vulcan, in the death star, it would be history, and so would Vader and the Emperor.
Sarasdad91 2 months ago
@Sarasdad91 a rebel commando team would board the enterprise, destroy the red matter and the Death star would blow up all of star trek. Star wars would win. Kirk ate the pop tart cat.
CorruptCoreCaption 2 months ago
Omg geekgasm watching this! Kirk vs Vader, the matchup of the fucking century! I loved the Emperor's cackle and "The time has come" line, so fitting!
WhySoSerious0331 2 months ago
The Xindi weapon is more formidable, however, as it can still blow up planets and possibly stars and is more versatile.
Darty105 2 months ago
And R2-D2 was in both Star Trek and Star Wars already !
supremeobliterator 2 months ago
Not at all. The Xindi weapon has nowhere near the might that the Death Star has. This is evident just by watching "A New Hope." The Death Star can blow planets up, making their contents fling outwasrds very violently. The Xindi weapon takes many seconds on the other hand simply to crack a planet like an egg, then to hurtle its remains into space at an extremely slow speed. The two show a hugely differing scale of might, with the Death Star being many hundreds of thousands of times more powerful.
CommissarASSHOLE 2 months ago
@2SunsNoWomen why did you add transformers music?
CorruptCoreCaption 2 months ago
Kirk and spook look at At-at's. At-At's fire on them. Kirk and Spook crap in their pants before At'At's blast them.
CorruptCoreCaption 2 months ago
@Dalbert342. Empire would just use the death star. General grevous would use the Malevalence. This would equal star treks end.
CorruptCoreCaption 2 months ago
@CorruptCoreCaption General Grevous was destroyed by Obi-Wan Kanobi during this time in Star Wars history. And the Malevolence was destroyed by the Republic.
galenmarekjr 2 months ago
@galenmarekjr SAME THING WITH THE ENTERPIRSE. iT BLEW UP BY 1 MISSLE hit! Still the death star would annilate star trek.
CorruptCoreCaption 2 months ago
@2SunsNoWomen, By the way... love the video.
fayt296133 3 months ago
This is not even a fair fight... heres a comparsion.
Feds: 150 member planets (not included colonies, or outpost)
GE: 1 - 12 million member planets.
Feds: 1-2 thousands ships in their fleet (they included their starfighters in their ship count!! haha)
GE: 19,000 star destroyers, millions of smaller warships (destroyer tonnage and below), and uncountable starfighters.
Feds: control one section of the galaxy
GE: Controls Half of the Galaxy
See... no contest. ALL HAIL THE EMPIRE!!!
fayt296133 3 months ago
@fayt296133 The Empire was destroyed by a small group of terrorists. A group that was much smaller then the federation. So NO CONTEST FEDERATION WINS!
slicktyler 3 months ago
@slicktyler Yes because they infiltrated the GE and it took them years to do that, if the Rebellion and Empire put all their ships out all their fleets and all, the Empire would win hands down.
sozincomet 3 months ago
@sozincomet that's like saying in a straight fight the North Vietnamese would have been destroyed by the US forces or the British in the revolutionary war would have destroyed the americans in a straight fight. Sure that's possible but that information is useful to no one.
slicktyler 3 months ago
@slicktyler In a total annihilation war the GE would win, they have 25,000 member planets, the Federation has 150. Don't get wrong, I love both franchises, but in an all out war, even if the Federation had the Romulan Star Empire and the Klingon Empire, that's maybe 800 planets, if that.
sozincomet 3 months ago
@slicktyler And we lost to the North Vietnamese.
sozincomet 3 months ago
@slicktyler And this is before we were allies with either the Romulans or Klingons.
sozincomet 3 months ago
@fayt296133 OK, I'll bite.
You make a good point, though, I think it's safe to say that starships are generally more powerful than star destroyers. Sisko took on what would be a Klingon equivalent to a star destroyer, with the Defiant forcing a retreat. Secondly, like with the Dominion War, the Klingon Empire, Federation and Romulan Star Empire would form an alliance. Even the Breen, Tholians and Gorn would likely join the alliance given the circumstance.
The Empire wouldn't stand a chance.
avenuePad 3 months ago
I WANT EVERY SHIP AVAILABLE TILL THEY ARE FOUND
ProtossX 3 months ago
darth vader's force choke > spock's mind meld
AvEryBadApPLe 3 months ago
for the emperor!
Darusdei 3 months ago 13
@Darusdei All hail the Empire!!! Stormtroopers would wipe starfleet from the universe!
whitesoxfan5 2 months ago
@whitesoxfan5 That would be amazing to see! Starfleet has no Marines or anything!
whitesoxfan5 2 months ago
@Darusdei you put Warhammer 40k in this? :D
malkatamutra 2 months ago
@malkatamutra yepyep :D
Darusdei 2 months ago
Are you people seriously arguing about fictional universes that may not even have the same physics?
menckencynic 3 months ago
Star wars will win!
CorruptCoreCaption 3 months ago
@CorruptCoreCaption HA! Only if Starfleet is off to lunch when Empire invades. Me thinks Starfleet would put a boot up the Empires ass
Dalbert342 3 months ago
@Dalbert342 The Death star would blow up the puny enterprise and darth vader would kill all the borg with a single force choke. Kirk and Spock would commit suicide if they saw the Malevalence and death star.
CorruptCoreCaption 3 months ago
No amount of Star Trek technology can withstand the power of the Force. Sorry Kirk.
HumbleWillis 3 months ago
Well as we all know... Lasers can't penetrate Starfleet shields. lol
DoctorStrangeFate 3 months ago in playlist DoctorStrangeFate's favorites
@DoctorStrangeFate Unfortunately, most of star Wars weaponry seems based on particle cannon technology rather than laser weapons. Starfleet shielding has a problem dealing with that type of weaponry.
rpsmith221 3 months ago
I think that one should turn into a movie,,,, it was a very good beginning'''''
I realize some of the old clip from each part from both shows,,,,,
as Mr. Spock would say fascinating
fish3079 3 months ago
Oh wow......
DoctorStrangeFate 4 months ago
That was actually really impressive! Almost believable. Nice job.
roamer1090 4 months ago
I got fucking Chills
TheComedylover92 4 months ago
what is the music that is playing from approx. 1:11-1:40?
zvfilms 4 months ago
@zvfilms I think it's Optimus vs Megatron (Transformers Score)
Superdude899v1 3 months ago
this is such a great video. well done!!!
dloc0925 4 months ago
transformers ftw!
Blitzz273 4 months ago
Oh...and don't worry, I'll use my own original ideas, you just gave me the starting point...
SkywalkerSoloForever 4 months ago
That would be sooooo cool!! I think I might actually consider this a prompt for a fanfic story!! Thanks for the idea!! :)
SkywalkerSoloForever 4 months ago
ENGAGE
eddums 4 months ago
very good
belklinacc7567utyz 4 months ago
i'm confused why is transformer movie music playing triple nerd threat
xRoughDayx 4 months ago
I like both but Star Wars PWNS anybody!!!
Kingicetre 4 months ago
Because I've seen all Wars and Trek movies, this looks stupid and feels severely contrived. But taking it in from the perspective of someone who's hasn't seen any of them and this is probably the most professional mashup I've ever seen. Either way, excellent editing style and really good music. Love Palpatine's laughter at the end.
AeronPeryton 4 months ago
Chances are, not one. If you want depth, read a book in either universe. If
you want action, watch Star Wars. If you want Technology, watch Star Trek.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Each has it's own fan base and if you don't know enough about one or only hear bad things about it from your friends or zealous
fanatics with Spock or Vader shirts, you'll only get a bad impression anyway. Some people like the books better, simply because of how the movies portray certain elements. And
go ahead and ask any Trekkie or Star Wars fan how many books they've read about the rival series.
Dreydan 4 months ago
So I'll reiterate that I do like both series, not really having a favorite of the two. I do like Jedi/Sith fighting games and Trekkie space ship games, so best of both worlds.
So take your pick if you'd rather wear your bath robe or your pajamas into battle. Star Wars and Star Trek have a lot of strengths and weaknesses all their own. You don't have
to pick one over the other or like either one.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Whenever someone leaves in Star Wars, they are usually killed and don't come back, but it
tends to be meaningful. I'm less satisfied with how Star Trek kills off it's characters. Tasha Yar, Kirk, and Data, being good examples. However for a couple of them more story
came out of it in the end.
Dreydan 4 months ago
The Star Wars movies are less
about the technology and more about the story behind the characters. The rise and fall, and eventual redemption of Anakin. Star Trek focused more on the bigger picture, which
allowed for characters to come and go or hand the reigns over to a new generation.
Dreydan 4 months ago
The best thing to do is pick up a book about whichever universe you like best. The movies are directed in completely different ways (except for the most recent Star Trek).
There's a lot more depth to each one and I've just been giving my opinion on what you can easily see on screen. Unfortunately thats all a lot of people go on. Some people hate
the new take on Star Trek, but it makes you think about what both series would be like if they had the same style when it comes to the movies.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Even transporting objects
from one place to another has been debated for years. Converting matter into energy is already being researched, however it's the "putting it back together" part that is in
question.
Dreydan 4 months ago
There is a lot to debate and I see a lot of points both ways, you don't have to take it personal. There's a lot of conjecture about what pseudo-science is and isn't. Containing
a lightsaber's length to a certain managable size and ability to repel beams while it can burn through solid matter could be contradictory as well.
Dreydan 4 months ago
The Death Star is the pinnacle of Star Wars technology, but it was a failure. They could have adapted it into smaller forms and
stuck it onto the Star Destroyers. Unfortunately the Borg would assimilate the Death Star, but make no attempt to fix it's design flaws. Why would they when it can just
regenerate after being destroyed. But now Star Trek has Red Matter (Which has more of a disaster than a benefit. Can we play with Omega molecule's now?)
Dreydan 4 months ago
Star Wars has seemingly been around for thousands of years while much of Star Trek is measured in centuries. However while Star Trek focuses on smaller scale stuff and new
technologies, Star Wars has been mass producing the same technology for thousands of years. Sure it looks shinier, but are all space ships equiped with the exact same weaponry?
Has it not improved in say the last 400 years?
Dreydan 4 months ago
Star Wars wins on it's variety of different races of all shapes and sizes, however this is probably because of budget issues and not because inhumanoid races didn't exist for
the most part in Star Trek. Species 8472 (Undine) for example.
In one episode of Star Trek it was implied that the humanoid races were somehow all created at least in part by an
ancient race that existed in the past.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Star Wars and it's mass production technology did beat over Star Trek when it comes to artificial intelligence. While Star Trek has the Borg and Data as it's primary source of
A.I. Star Wars has countless droids and people who walked into the way of a lightsaber needing new appendages.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Now with the absence of force users, Star Trek has a slight advantage when it comes to hand held beam weapons. Sorry Storm
Troopers you can't hit the broad side of a barn even when it comes to civilians without force powers. And your weapons don't vaporize them either.
Dreydan 4 months ago
So both have their technilogical design flaws. You don't even have to know science to see it. You can easily compare the Empire to the Borg. Both have almost limitless
resources, but the Empire lacks true self preservation instincts (At least Vader was smart enough to have shields on his TIE Fighter). The Borg however, are too stubborn to try
the same tactics their victims do (like running).
Dreydan 4 months ago
That's like saying a shuttlecraft can
destroy a Borg Cube. And speaking of the Borg. For as dangerous as they are at close range, if you can outrun a turtle you are relatively safe. In all the species they have
assimilated, not one has brought the strategy to the collective or perhaps, running after their targets or using projectile or atmospheric assimilation processes.
Dreydan 4 months ago
When it comes to hand to hand combat and the like, Jedi and Sith definately have the advantage. However what people forget is they only make up a small number of people at
least in later movies. A phaser could probably be deflected just as easily as any handheld energy weapon. There seems to be some major design flaws when it comes to technology
in both series. For instance with how destructive the Death Star is, it has the major design flaw that a single X-Wing can destroy it.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Lol I love how angry people get when it comes to Star Wars vs Star Trek. I'm actually a fan of both. Here's my thoughts on some of the topic open to debate.
Dreydan 4 months ago
Excellent
NewChannels 5 months ago
Xindi weapon is capable of sending a devastation in the same magnitude as the Death Star but with a lot smaller size.
PaiSAMSEN 5 months ago 8
@PaiSAMSEN everything in enterprise was not star trek it was Enterprise
Docthewrench 3 months ago
@PaiSAMSEN All I have to say is to that is Suncrusher.
klenwingss 3 months ago
2 Words for you motherfucking star trek fans : DEATH STAR
TheDalekslayer 5 months ago
@TheDalekslayer the original enterprise could destroy the surface of a planet so imagine what the 24th century enterprise could do.
godzillaisnuclea123 5 months ago
@godzillaisnuclea123 and your forgetting a lot of other super weapons from Star Wars
TheDalekslayer 5 months ago
@TheDalekslayer Every SW superweapon seems to be either underpowered or overdesigned.....if 1 X-wing managed to destroy the Death Star,imagine what 2-3 Prometheus class ships would do to it lol Starfleet couldn't lose against the Empire even if they were trying
Dalbert342 5 months ago
@Dalbert342 the ds-1 had one major design flaw, DS-2 didn't, and the only reason why DS-2 was destroyed cause the Imperial Navy was ordered not to engage the Alliance until the Emperor sprung his trap
ans Star Wars Ships are much better
Super Star Destroyers are a good example
and at least over a thousand Imperial I and Imperial II class Star Destroyers
TheDalekslayer 5 months ago
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@TheDalekslayer Star Trek's U.S.S. Enterprise can easily destroy continents, and can level an M-class planet's surface with just it's phasers, as per the Original Series episodes "the Cage", "Mirror, Mirror", and "A Taste of Armageddon". The old Enterprise is 86 years old in Trek time, making it very outdated. It has also easily survived high-heat-plasma weapons. (ST:TMP)
Idazmi7 4 months ago
@TheDalekslayer Super Star Destroyers are a horrible example. The entire thing lost control when the bridge was destroyed by a single a-wing. Not even our Navy ships are that poorly designed. If the bridge is destroyed on a US navy ship the ship still operates it still has communication through out the ship as well as weapons and targeting and movement
A single asteroid takes out a regular star destroyer in ESB. The DS2 was too large it was large enough to fly the MF through it.
slicktyler 3 months ago
@slicktyler NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DUMB ASS THEY DID NOT HAVE TIME TO REGAIN CONTROL BEFORE IT CRASHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
sandvichman327 3 months ago
@sandvichman327 you're missing the point. See in a modern Aircraft carrier for example the bridge doesn't actually control anything. It's just there to give orders. Then the different sections ie engineering, weapon control and so on which are spread out across the ship can respond even if the bridge is destroyed. So if you cut the head off the snake it can still attack. Otherwise you have a HUGE weakspot.
slicktyler 3 months ago