@calcvids ah yeah, i've been listening to it a bit recently and was able to hear a bit of falun gong programming for a split second but it's hard to understand anything
I heard this while listening to BBC world service when going through the three gorges dam and the China national radio were clearly trying to jam western broadcasts
it is common for communist nations to use short wave jamming that sounds like music. what you are hearing might be a short wave radio station China does not want anybody to listen to.
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The frequency being used ie: 15515kHz is within 19m SW broadcast band and therefore high power stations playing music on 19m is not uncommon.
I have no idea where you arrived at the idea that this was a "jammer" but I think you will find that its just a commercial Chinese station playing niche Chinese music.
@g7vgg agreed, it is a broadcast station. Nothing to do with jamming, and people marking your comment as spam is silly.
I think the 2 of us probably know more about HF than the average listener. I have a class A! On these videos people know nothing abotu aerials, propagation or filtering.
@urbex2007 It IS a jammer. I have an Extra license. I've been a SWL for years. I probably know more about HF utility/jammers than you. It also is on 12600 kHz. That's not allocated to broadcast Neither is 10300 or 14700. It's jamming a broadcast. Also, a ham radio license doesn't mean you're a utility station expert. It just means you acknowledge the existence of HF.
mootard, they are jamming broadcasts from Free Tibet, VOA and world news services from multiple countries on multiple frequencies simultaneously. They have reduced some of the SW jamming at the same time they reached an agreement with Google to censor and report Chinese people who visit websites "against the Chinese government."
Well if Obama gets his way with the 'fairness doctrine' and shuts down consevative talkshows it will be the same. BEWARE OF THE ATTACK ON FREE SPEECH IN THE USA AS WELL. Face it liberals suck...
Westwind75, These laws have been valid since before you were born, unless you are more than 102 years old. They are from BERLIN 1906. I PMed you multiple links to international radio regulations. If you are truly interested read up on it, take the test and get your license. What China is doing is ILLEGAL. IF the USA did it would you have the same opinion? I think not. FIREDRAKE IT WRONG! STOP THE CHINESE OPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!
BARNEY, If you are not a ham (CW/DXer)? you most likely don't understand what all this means. That's nothing against you. What the Chinese gov't is doing with Firedrake is ILLEGAL.
RR15.12 Administrations shall take all practicable and necessary steps to ensure that the operation of electrical apparatus or installations of any kind, including power and telecommunication distribution networks, but excluding ISM, does not cause harmful interference to a radiocommunication service and, in particular, to a radionavigation or any other safety service operating in accordance with the provisions of these Regulations.
@GhettoTuerken REALLY?? How curious, I just heard that Google is going to pull out of China, I wonder....you know, since China can't control Youtube, they can at least troll when their government employed hackers are not too busy.
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I have been in china during the olympics. Great Country, nice friendly and assiduous people. I carried my shortwave radio with me and there was no firedrake or jammer receiveable at any time. I travelled different places, never heard it.
So I believe this is all a big fake, pirate station or something, and some ppl try to blame china.
You're receiving everything then because a lot of foreigners are in country. Other than that, they jam things like Voice of America, Radio Free Asia, BBC World Service, etc.
First, YOUR call sign NOT the Chinese "official" call sign of their government stations. Second, This station NEVER uses its call sign, that's illegal by INTERNATIONAL law. Third, "UNKNOWN Composer who is huge fan of Falun Gong." REALLY???? If he is unknown, HOW DO YOU KNOW he is a fan of Falun Gong??? Fourth, THIS STATION OPERATES ILLEGALLY because it transmits over other legal stations! You have NO CALL SIGN?? You are not a licensed radio operator!
We're talking about shortwave radio listening, as far as I know, there is no need to have license for being SWL.
Also I am not trying to defend communist oppression, maybe I am a little bit more opend minded, having a different idea , of what the firedrake-thing does..
communism is just the idea of everyine sharing with everyone. I think you mean "fascist" opression, that's what it is, and besides, China is extremely Capitalist. they used to be communist, but they only say they are now.
I expect various flames or silence, or intelligent response (both of you look quite smart so i imagine your replies will be knowledgeable)
Jamming civilian short wave radio transmissions is ILLEGAL regardless of who does it. BTW, I grew up 11 miles from COMMUNIST East Germany. I said 'communist' because I meant it, the communist party is still in control. Totalitarian is more a propos than fascist. Under Mussolini and Franco (fascists) private enterprise meant private CONTROL. Not so in China. The Communist politico-economic model is more complex that just sharing. Jamming these frequencies is communist oppression STOP THE JAMMING!
And I say, this is just a lie of the western world, to defame the chinese government. There are no giving proofs that this transmissions coming from china or in its authority..
Not jamming? It broadcasts on dozenz of stations, with no news and no station ident, and it obviously broadcasts over other stations; I'd call it jamming :)
I'm aware I spelt 'dozens' wrong lol, but additionally, if it's Chinese 'traditional music' and it obviously broadcasts over stations that are critical of China, it makes sense to surmise that is in fact ran by China as part of it's attempt to block all foreign media.
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If the Chinese really wanted to block all foreign media, why do they not transmitt for 24hours on all 240 channels - I have counted so far..?! It's not not sufficiently effective enough to jam only particular hours couse they can't watch broadcast all the time. So I still believe this is just traditional Chinese music, to make PPL having a good time, relaxing... while listing a good tune on shortwave radio. And so I do. Also bought the CD on Satdirectory. Cheers
ANY time a signal unauthorized/unlicensed is transmitted on the same frequency as another signal it is called "jamming." No matter if it's for political or commercial reasons, it is ILLEGAL and CHINA IS WRONG FOR JAMMING CIVILIAN RADIO!!
干扰自由的声音，Interfere with the free sound
gx0088 4 months ago
Sounds like an rock/opera going on.
eeveelover323 11 months ago
in this video is it currently jamming anything?
GMSamuelRhine 1 year ago
@GMSamuelRhine I am not sure. It's too powerful to detect a broadcast underneath, and most things it jams move to a different frequency.
calcvids 6 months ago
@calcvids ah yeah, i've been listening to it a bit recently and was able to hear a bit of falun gong programming for a split second but it's hard to understand anything
GMSamuelRhine 6 months ago
Oh god, not this :(
shortwavesam 1 year ago
I heard this while listening to BBC world service when going through the three gorges dam and the China national radio were clearly trying to jam western broadcasts
boweandrew3 1 year ago
in indonesia you can listen that signal strongly at 31 mb. hand in hand with rfa in 17 utc
MrSefrizal 1 year ago
firedrake ftw.
fdsman 1 year ago
holy crap if you are able to catch this in finland then the chinese must have one heck of a powerful station
Flankymanga 1 year ago
@Flankymanga This is transmitted outside of China too
Pokal777 1 year ago
@Pokal777 are you saying that chinese are having this transmitter jammer outside of china as well? If so... where?
Flankymanga 1 year ago
i want a studio version if someone could get it
TheCintron 1 year ago
@TheCintron Some people used the satellite link to make a CD (1 hr loop) of it. It's (nearly) free. See SatDirectory's page on Firedrake.
calcvids 6 months ago
only problem is that if you set this up it just screams CHINESE JAMMER!!!!! lmao
klingoncowboy4 1 year ago
Damn the chinks! Yeah.... And people still buy made in china shit!!!! I thought my country hated the commies but I wonder.
minimaluhftv 1 year ago
pool closed due to communism
brotherbosco 1 year ago
Firedrake
supressorgrid 1 year ago
it is common for communist nations to use short wave jamming that sounds like music. what you are hearing might be a short wave radio station China does not want anybody to listen to.
aurora990 2 years ago 2
is that just a short wave radio that u can get in a store??
Dusty696969 2 years ago
yep, I bought in on ebay
inspireit 2 years ago
@Dusty696969
this is one of the best shortwave receivers ever !
it's a Degen DE1103
spielhahnjaeger 5 months ago
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The frequency being used ie: 15515kHz is within 19m SW broadcast band and therefore high power stations playing music on 19m is not uncommon.
I have no idea where you arrived at the idea that this was a "jammer" but I think you will find that its just a commercial Chinese station playing niche Chinese music.
g7vgg 2 years ago
lol :)
inspireit 2 years ago
g7vgg, NO broadcast is legal without a station identifier.
FelchBelcher 2 years ago 2
@g7vgg agreed, it is a broadcast station. Nothing to do with jamming, and people marking your comment as spam is silly.
I think the 2 of us probably know more about HF than the average listener. I have a class A! On these videos people know nothing abotu aerials, propagation or filtering.
urbex2007 1 year ago
@urbex2007 It IS a jammer. I have an Extra license. I've been a SWL for years. I probably know more about HF utility/jammers than you. It also is on 12600 kHz. That's not allocated to broadcast Neither is 10300 or 14700. It's jamming a broadcast. Also, a ham radio license doesn't mean you're a utility station expert. It just means you acknowledge the existence of HF.
calcvids 6 months ago
@g7vgg thats firedrake! not commercial. more like hitlerism!
hooker1uk 1 year ago
@g7vgg If it wasn't a jammer it wouldn't use occupied frequencies nor use half a million watts.
calcvids 1 year ago
@calcvids he obviously knows nothing about chinese censorship or the firedrake
GMSamuelRhine 7 months ago
what's it supposed to be jamming? it sounds like the same ear piercing shit they listen to normally for entertainment
mootard 3 years ago
Same here and I am learning chinese.
inachu 2 years ago
mootard, they are jamming broadcasts from Free Tibet, VOA and world news services from multiple countries on multiple frequencies simultaneously. They have reduced some of the SW jamming at the same time they reached an agreement with Google to censor and report Chinese people who visit websites "against the Chinese government."
DrMotorDude 2 years ago 5
Harsh!
badnewswade 2 years ago
Just noticed we have viewers also from Macau, China. Can you send a QSL-card for me, please? :)
inspireit 3 years ago
Westwind75 is such a commie stooge.
auto9898 3 years ago 3
Well if Obama gets his way with the 'fairness doctrine' and shuts down consevative talkshows it will be the same. BEWARE OF THE ATTACK ON FREE SPEECH IN THE USA AS WELL. Face it liberals suck...
hromika 3 years ago 2
Westwind75, These laws have been valid since before you were born, unless you are more than 102 years old. They are from BERLIN 1906. I PMed you multiple links to international radio regulations. If you are truly interested read up on it, take the test and get your license. What China is doing is ILLEGAL. IF the USA did it would you have the same opinion? I think not. FIREDRAKE IT WRONG! STOP THE CHINESE OPPRESSION OF FREE SPEECH!
dieselscience 3 years ago 12
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Falun Gong pirate station. They try to spread Falun Gong all over the planet. dont listen the evil
westwind75 3 years ago
BARNEY, If you are not a ham (CW/DXer)? you most likely don't understand what all this means. That's nothing against you. What the Chinese gov't is doing with Firedrake is ILLEGAL.
dieselscience 3 years ago 9
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You don't have to be a hamradio-operator or active DXer to understand whats actually going on frequencies!
Give me an international law, that prohibits china, doing radio activities on its on territory!
you cant - cause there is none!
westwind75 3 years ago
This is from IRT - only 1 of many laws.
RR15.12 Administrations shall take all practicable and necessary steps to ensure that the operation of electrical apparatus or installations of any kind, including power and telecommunication distribution networks, but excluding ISM, does not cause harmful interference to a radiocommunication service and, in particular, to a radionavigation or any other safety service operating in accordance with the provisions of these Regulations.
dieselscience 3 years ago 3
westwind75,
I noticed you are still silent about Chinese jamming from Firedrake. Did your comrade-political officer give you another assignment?
FelchBelcher 2 years ago 2
his account is closed - for good reasons
GhettoTuerken 2 years ago
@GhettoTuerken REALLY?? How curious, I just heard that Google is going to pull out of China, I wonder....you know, since China can't control Youtube, they can at least troll when their government employed hackers are not too busy.
FelchBelcher 2 years ago
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I have been in china during the olympics. Great Country, nice friendly and assiduous people. I carried my shortwave radio with me and there was no firedrake or jammer receiveable at any time. I travelled different places, never heard it.
So I believe this is all a big fake, pirate station or something, and some ppl try to blame china.
westwind75 3 years ago
maybe you should learn to use your sw receiver.
inspireit 3 years ago
man, that was a POOR reaction on my point!
westwind75 3 years ago
You're receiving everything then because a lot of foreigners are in country. Other than that, they jam things like Voice of America, Radio Free Asia, BBC World Service, etc.
prophetoftru7h 2 years ago
@westwind75
it's not on air 24/7
spielhahnjaeger 5 months ago
I spoke to a responsible person from
from Hainan Island transmitter-station today, just to answer your question here.
The station callsign is: BY-FG44
The music played is from an inofficial/ unkwnon composer who is huge fan of Falun Gong.
So its all fine so far.. No jamming at all. just nice traditional music to practice Falung Gong at home without having a stereo
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
First, YOUR call sign NOT the Chinese "official" call sign of their government stations. Second, This station NEVER uses its call sign, that's illegal by INTERNATIONAL law. Third, "UNKNOWN Composer who is huge fan of Falun Gong." REALLY???? If he is unknown, HOW DO YOU KNOW he is a fan of Falun Gong??? Fourth, THIS STATION OPERATES ILLEGALLY because it transmits over other legal stations! You have NO CALL SIGN?? You are not a licensed radio operator!
Stop defending communist oppression!
dieselscience 3 years ago 4
So why do you think I have a callsign?
We're talking about shortwave radio listening, as far as I know, there is no need to have license for being SWL.
Also I am not trying to defend communist oppression, maybe I am a little bit more opend minded, having a different idea , of what the firedrake-thing does..
I am here to share my thoughts..
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
IF you had a license, hence a call sign, you would know that firedrake is illegal. This is NOT about "open minded" This is about legal and illegal.
dieselscience 3 years ago
@dieselsceince & Realitaetsroboter
communism is just the idea of everyine sharing with everyone. I think you mean "fascist" opression, that's what it is, and besides, China is extremely Capitalist. they used to be communist, but they only say they are now.
I expect various flames or silence, or intelligent response (both of you look quite smart so i imagine your replies will be knowledgeable)
AngelusBarney 3 years ago
Jamming civilian short wave radio transmissions is ILLEGAL regardless of who does it. BTW, I grew up 11 miles from COMMUNIST East Germany. I said 'communist' because I meant it, the communist party is still in control. Totalitarian is more a propos than fascist. Under Mussolini and Franco (fascists) private enterprise meant private CONTROL. Not so in China. The Communist politico-economic model is more complex that just sharing. Jamming these frequencies is communist oppression STOP THE JAMMING!
dieselscience 3 years ago 3
I truly found out what this transmission and music is all about, it' to practice Falun Gong !! You know that Falun Gong thing ?
People meet in parks and gardens, carry their radios and do mental aerobics...
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
nice try :D
inspireit 3 years ago
Yeah, traditional Chinese music. Some people call it jamming, but thats not true.
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
This jamming is targeted to Mandarin and Tibetian service of the Voice of America, Radio Free Asia and the BBC World Service.
inspireit 3 years ago
And I say, this is just a lie of the western world, to defame the chinese government. There are no giving proofs that this transmissions coming from china or in its authority..
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
No, YOU and Chi - Communists are the ONLY LIARS in this topic!!! And even the North Koreans have said that!
dieselscience 3 years ago 2
Not jamming? It broadcasts on dozenz of stations, with no news and no station ident, and it obviously broadcasts over other stations; I'd call it jamming :)
MattExzy 3 years ago 2
I'm aware I spelt 'dozens' wrong lol, but additionally, if it's Chinese 'traditional music' and it obviously broadcasts over stations that are critical of China, it makes sense to surmise that is in fact ran by China as part of it's attempt to block all foreign media.
MattExzy 3 years ago 2
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If the Chinese really wanted to block all foreign media, why do they not transmitt for 24hours on all 240 channels - I have counted so far..?! It's not not sufficiently effective enough to jam only particular hours couse they can't watch broadcast all the time. So I still believe this is just traditional Chinese music, to make PPL having a good time, relaxing... while listing a good tune on shortwave radio. And so I do. Also bought the CD on Satdirectory. Cheers
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
ANY time a signal unauthorized/unlicensed is transmitted on the same frequency as another signal it is called "jamming." No matter if it's for political or commercial reasons, it is ILLEGAL and CHINA IS WRONG FOR JAMMING CIVILIAN RADIO!!
dieselscience 3 years ago 4
Check my Video on Youtube. I have given proofs that they are not jamming on frequencies in use!!!
Apart from that, broadcast-frequencies are not under regiment of a world wide law. Every Country got its own. Check my Video!!!
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
Unable to find proofs you said you have given.
inspireit 3 years ago
Do you want to prove something???
TELL US YOUR CALL SIGN....
dieselscience 3 years ago
what call sign ?
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
EXACTLY! you have no clue what we are talking about.
dieselscience 3 years ago 2
laughing. no clue what you are talking about. lol
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
How do you now its a jammer? Maybe the just want to send out happy music.
Realitaetsroboter 3 years ago
Traditional Chinese music. Love it.
emmthreejonny 3 years ago
Atleast their nice about it and give you some music to listen too, unlike Cuba which has that jet plane noise.
robkb1fjr 3 years ago
The chinese will jammed stations it deems unfriendly and what you hear its noisy chinese orchestra music..
nusld 3 years ago 4