I assembled the ATS-3A, using a low wattage pencil and it turned out fine! High magnification and taking my time the whole kit went together in two days and was running proper right off the get go! The DDS chip was difficult because the legs were so fine and close, but one by one I did it! Great kit! 72 Rod KB8DNS
@poikaa3 Yes, I have heard of people making this kit with all kinds of soldering tools. I'm not entirely sure, but most modern soldering is done with hot air reflow methods--most hi fi equipment, communications equipment, and computers--but there are still people melting solder with a secondary source like another hot piece of steel. I prefer air for small stuff like this, just to eliminate the guesswork.
That is interesting. I don't understand why you didn't just use a soldering iron. It seems like more trouble to put paste on the pads, put the parts on, and then reflow, unless you're a pick-and-place machine. Is this just to show it's possible? Why not use a roll of solder and an iron?
Because of the size of this device, the multitude of tiny specks of parts and minuscule pins. Using solder paste was a much more reliable way to make sure they all had reliable joints. I was impressed--and with so little heat. I might have destroyed many of the parts with a conventional iron. That's why I used the Cash Olson method with this particular SMD device. I used a conventional iron plenty, too--for the through-hold parts and etc.
It looks like a lot more work than soldering the parts with a fine-tip iron, but I've never tried that method. When I first learned to solder SMT 10 years ago, I thought it would be harder than through-hole, and now I think it's easier; so it's possible there's a better way to stuff an SMT board than what I do.
You certainly could be right. I think there are merits to each method. In this case, the extreme small size and need for precision took me to paste. I was surprised at the ease of use, and every part is perfectly centered on the fillet by surface tension.
I think CIrcuitGuy might be trying to show off. This method is almost required for a board that dense. I couldn't imagine how long it'd take to solder all that up by hand. Came out great too.
I know guys who did this board with a soldering iron, and didn't mess it up. I don't see any reason to use that method--except if you associate "soldering" with a hot iron. Hot air did it just great. Thanks for the comment.
I'm unsure why this isn't the default setting on YouTube. I just found out about this URL option. It works on many videos, but it doesn't show up in the video settings.
your weldings is just looking like shit from hell. i weld better when i was 8 years old and i can say that on the bible, for now on i have military aircraft welding license, was extreamly hard to do, and needs to redo every 3 years.
I built mine, ATS-3a, in March of 05. I used a 5 watt grounded pen from RS and shaped the point. I did not mass the soldier on any IC, hence I did not have to "clean" up any globs. Worked perfect right off the bat! Great rig!!
I went in and cleaned it up with a scriber tool. Dodgy, but it worked GREAT. I am a strong believer in hot air now. I was totally skeptical, but it turns out the other hams were just describing it in a way I didn't understand.
BTW, I'm getting on PSK with this rig--thanks to YOUR vid. Stay posted... 7J1AWL
Looks good. How was the cleanup around that one IC. I have a softrock kit to build! I bought a couple of starter kits at Pacificon before I build the softrock. Randy
I was very impressed with your trip to Beijing. You know well to expect the unexpected and not to expect the expected--something like that--when travelling outside of English-speaking countries.
you have some bad soldering point but anyway this is nice ^^
why haven't you used this technic : watch?v=wQXhny3R7lk
instead of soldering each legs one by one ?
Manu404 7 months ago
LoL i thought you were making it out of ham
TheHappyWhaleshark 11 months ago
I assembled the ATS-3A, using a low wattage pencil and it turned out fine! High magnification and taking my time the whole kit went together in two days and was running proper right off the get go! The DDS chip was difficult because the legs were so fine and close, but one by one I did it! Great kit! 72 Rod KB8DNS
poikaa3 1 year ago
@poikaa3 Yes, I have heard of people making this kit with all kinds of soldering tools. I'm not entirely sure, but most modern soldering is done with hot air reflow methods--most hi fi equipment, communications equipment, and computers--but there are still people melting solder with a secondary source like another hot piece of steel. I prefer air for small stuff like this, just to eliminate the guesswork.
kc7fys 1 year ago
Well done bud ,this is what the radio hobby is all about ,giving it a go and we all have to start somewhere
darynsax 1 year ago
That is interesting. I don't understand why you didn't just use a soldering iron. It seems like more trouble to put paste on the pads, put the parts on, and then reflow, unless you're a pick-and-place machine. Is this just to show it's possible? Why not use a roll of solder and an iron?
CircuitGuy75 2 years ago
Because of the size of this device, the multitude of tiny specks of parts and minuscule pins. Using solder paste was a much more reliable way to make sure they all had reliable joints. I was impressed--and with so little heat. I might have destroyed many of the parts with a conventional iron. That's why I used the Cash Olson method with this particular SMD device. I used a conventional iron plenty, too--for the through-hold parts and etc.
kc7fys 2 years ago
It looks like a lot more work than soldering the parts with a fine-tip iron, but I've never tried that method. When I first learned to solder SMT 10 years ago, I thought it would be harder than through-hole, and now I think it's easier; so it's possible there's a better way to stuff an SMT board than what I do.
CircuitGuy75 2 years ago
You certainly could be right. I think there are merits to each method. In this case, the extreme small size and need for precision took me to paste. I was surprised at the ease of use, and every part is perfectly centered on the fillet by surface tension.
Nothing beats an iron, however, in most cases.
kc7fys 2 years ago
I think CIrcuitGuy might be trying to show off. This method is almost required for a board that dense. I couldn't imagine how long it'd take to solder all that up by hand. Came out great too.
Also, 5 stars for singing loved ones :-D
RetroRepair 2 years ago
I know guys who did this board with a soldering iron, and didn't mess it up. I don't see any reason to use that method--except if you associate "soldering" with a hot iron. Hot air did it just great. Thanks for the comment.
kc7fys 2 years ago
autsch
das tuet richtig weh
lueget nech die lötstelle ah
so grässlech xD
randyonweb 2 years ago
Am I going crazy or am I hearing CW in the background in the beginning?
kc9mav 3 years ago
add &fmt=18 to the URL; the video will be much clearer.
trcwm 3 years ago
Why is that--the video is crystal clear. Why isn't that the default URL? How can I change all of my videos?
kc7fys 3 years ago
I'm unsure why this isn't the default setting on YouTube. I just found out about this URL option. It works on many videos, but it doesn't show up in the video settings.
trcwm 3 years ago
Well i tell you, this is pretty far from proper reflow-process...
Nudnik88 3 years ago
Yes, that's right. The radio works perfectly, even with this rather crude process. Thanks for the compliment.
kc7fys 3 years ago
thats it? where's the part II?
yudiwebpersonal 3 years ago
your weldings is just looking like shit from hell. i weld better when i was 8 years old and i can say that on the bible, for now on i have military aircraft welding license, was extreamly hard to do, and needs to redo every 3 years.
karlskronanisse 3 years ago
Lovely English. Tell us more about your welding license.
kc7fys 3 years ago
well, just send me a email and i will send you my msn adress, then i will tell you everything about it when we chatt on msn.
karlskronanisse 3 years ago
I built mine, ATS-3a, in March of 05. I used a 5 watt grounded pen from RS and shaped the point. I did not mass the soldier on any IC, hence I did not have to "clean" up any globs. Worked perfect right off the bat! Great rig!!
poikaa3 3 years ago
It really is. Thanks.
kc7fys 3 years ago
WHAT WERE YOU DOING? AG4WT
AG4WT 4 years ago
I went in and cleaned it up with a scriber tool. Dodgy, but it worked GREAT. I am a strong believer in hot air now. I was totally skeptical, but it turns out the other hams were just describing it in a way I didn't understand.
BTW, I'm getting on PSK with this rig--thanks to YOUR vid. Stay posted... 7J1AWL
kc7fys 4 years ago
Looks good. How was the cleanup around that one IC. I have a softrock kit to build! I bought a couple of starter kits at Pacificon before I build the softrock. Randy
K7AGE 4 years ago
Randy-san,
Have you started on your softrock?
I was very impressed with your trip to Beijing. You know well to expect the unexpected and not to expect the expected--something like that--when travelling outside of English-speaking countries.
Best 73,
Jonathan 7J1AWL
kc7fys 3 years ago