坐禅（座禅） Zazen

[kamekamekamekameka]

Zazen is meditation is not meditation.

[emborios]

zazen is meditation as practised in zen schools of buddhism: it literally means "seated meditation"

[DJmixmastermicro]

@emborios not necessarily. the meaning changes depending on the upper radical. the pronunciation is both "za-zen" but the meaning and thus the actual practice shifts. if you can read chinese/japanese characters. you will understand what im talking about.

[daisenmatsui]

I think meditation is thinking.

Zazen is being.

[UniversalTruths]

@daisenmatsui Meditation is the absence of thought.

[kamekamekamekameka]

Why zazen is not meditation?

[Peekingduck]

@kamekamekamekameka

Mainly (in the soto-shu) because it is supposed to be without a goal... though in the west that is often forgotten.

[xamaneqa]

Zazen is not meditation!

[BluePittbull666]

zazen is a great meditation technique.

but there are many other forms of meditation.

[neocoders]

Not every day we can fast forward zazen...I didn't of course

[rodg1775]

Thank you! I appreciate it.