Irgun committed disgusting atrocities and depraved acts of mutilation and rape. There are over 60 known Irgun terrorist attacks between 1937 and 1948. They say they didn't target civilians, that's complete bullshit and the facts prove it beyond a doubt. Its historical record. Out of over 900 killed, thousands were left wounded, Arab, British, Christian, and some Jews in those "surgical strikes".
They bombed anything, there was no concern for civilians. That's why they didn't care if the target
and through tactics of deception and media manipulation... Oh, wait, it couldn't have been, that was back when men fought face to face against their enemy in battle with weapon in hand.
Nothing is ever mentioned of the numerous losses the IDF sustain, Yom Kippur, various battles in Lebanon. It's just "pretended away". The world does happen to know what the factors are, and why things always seem to go Issi's way... Fool yourselves but others understand the dynamics quite well.
(since they obviously weren't going to face the British in open battle), but "cowardice" when it's a handful of Hamas with virtually no weaponry against IDF. The hypocrisy is sickening.
FFS, it would astound the world if any of you apologists and propagandists DIDN'T speak out of both sides of your mouths.
Yet you people also ridicule Arabs for all the lands they've conquered and how "murderous" they are. I suppose they conquered that part of the world through slow, erratic, bombing attacks
Everything you've just said about Hamas or PLO can be said about Irgun et al, but much worse.
And the Irgun, Haganah AND Stern Gang never waged open war against the British Army in traditional battle. You're deluding yourself, which always must be done with these issues. In your mind I suppose it's simply "strategic" when it's Irgun blowing up children, women and men at a Hospital or Arab Marketplace where 1 or 2 British happen to be (since
lissen the finald words of this old man. He says at hi was a liberty fighter !!! I think that the palestinians says the same what hteye belive is theye liberty fight !!!
@alejokattana Yep...even though God gave them a divorce and put them away in Jeremiah. The whole God's chosen thing is false anyway. A separate religion. Not Christianity. Christianity is Justified by faith through the death burial and resurrection of the lamb of God Jesus who is the Christ. Biblically..there are no chosen people. Only saved and unsaved. You don't have to be a Christian to understand what is written clearly.
@alejokattana And Christians are so easily manipulated. Christianity as it was originally has fallen off and false Judeo Christianity has taken root in places like America.
"Fought for my country given to me by God." Heard that one before haven't we. Wicked religious fanatic and murderer. I guess we could all claim God gave us something and then take it. The guy and his organization are nothing but murderers.
this gives hope to any group trying to climb the highest mt's.! a small weak group can over take a large group, if the focous is never lost. then once the hieght is reached, never look back on your wake to count the dead. the most violent ones will always win in the end. Irgun showed the world- it was o.k. to bomb a hotel to gain results! QUIDPROQUO...
Not all terrorists are evil. Many are legitimate militia groups that protect their countrymen and only target military establishments and soldiers.
The Irgun was a terrorist organization, and a good one at that.
The PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas are EVIL terrorists who intentionally target civilians because they are too pathetic to fight the IDF. When the IDF confronts them they call out "uncle, mercy, ceasefire".
The Irgun was exemplary.
PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas are vomitous and repugnant.
Sure, what the Irgun fought for was good, but their methods were brutal. They killed not only arabs and brittish, but jews as well. They where otu to destroy as much as possible in order to gain their free state. The Haganah fought for the same, but were more peaceful, and lisened to the words of zionist leaders such as Chaim Weitzmann.. They we're responsible for the King Daviv Hotel bombing, which killed many civilia. Hamas is not better, but Irguns aren't all heroes.
I can't believe that Zionist idiot actually said "unfortunately" - it was a deliberate act. Now they complain about rockets from Hamas? Pah - historically, they deserve everything they get.
Of course the Zionists were terrorists. It just depends on point of view--if you are a Zionist, you will call them "freedom fighters". If you were one of their innocent victims, a person whose family had lived in Palestine for generations, you will naturally call them terrorists. As a Jew of conscience, I, too, call them terrorists!
Of course Hamas and Hezbollah are freedom fighters,even though they openely speak about killing Jews world wide and not only defeating Israel...
But Irgun are freaking terrorists..even though their actions were of defence of jewish villages and revenge on arab terrorist actions against Jews in villages and cities
Jewish underground organizations were formed to combat the continuing massacres of innocent, peaceful, unarmed Jews that occurred in Hebron, Jerusalem, Saffra, Jaffa, & other villages & settlements which STARTED the violence. The reason that they were "underground" is that the British made it unlawful for Jews to own weapons. The British also raided the headquarters where top secret documents of these groups were kept, stole them & brought them to the King David Hotel which is why it was hit.
And Israelis still say that Hamas are "the" terrorists and they are always very peaceful. Shame on Israel. Whatever reasons there were to seek refuge from the Nazis, that never can justify the deaths of innocent lifes and the continued state of affairs and the humiliation of the native population of Palestine. The irony is that following this, some Hamas chief might one day also win the Nobel Peace Prize, since Menachem Begin won it and he was a terrorist.
Yes. It's OKAY for Jews to kill civilians. The Stern Gang during WWII was, as late as 1942 trying to be an elite unit of Hitler's Wehrmacht. That was Begin's original group, before the Irgun fame. Yeh. It's always the government directed opinions today that guide public "opinion". This interview could be for a HAMAS fighter, just as easily.
It is nonsense that many eople were drowned by the British. How is it that a boat which is capable of getting from mainland Europe to the coast of Palesine suddenly becomes unseaworthy because it is denied entry to a port?
This is crass propaganda. The British were merely trying to stop a bloody uprising of Palestinians due to a massive influx of European jews. Without British Lord Balfour's declaration which acknowledged the desirability of a jewish homeland, there would be no israel at all.
Irgun committed disgusting atrocities and depraved acts of mutilation and rape. There are over 60 known Irgun terrorist attacks between 1937 and 1948. They say they didn't target civilians, that's complete bullshit and the facts prove it beyond a doubt. Its historical record. Out of over 900 killed, thousands were left wounded, Arab, British, Christian, and some Jews in those "surgical strikes".
They bombed anything, there was no concern for civilians. That's why they didn't care if the target
N1k1mon 1 month ago
and through tactics of deception and media manipulation... Oh, wait, it couldn't have been, that was back when men fought face to face against their enemy in battle with weapon in hand.
Nothing is ever mentioned of the numerous losses the IDF sustain, Yom Kippur, various battles in Lebanon. It's just "pretended away". The world does happen to know what the factors are, and why things always seem to go Issi's way... Fool yourselves but others understand the dynamics quite well.
Irgun committ
N1k1mon 1 month ago
(since they obviously weren't going to face the British in open battle), but "cowardice" when it's a handful of Hamas with virtually no weaponry against IDF. The hypocrisy is sickening.
FFS, it would astound the world if any of you apologists and propagandists DIDN'T speak out of both sides of your mouths.
Yet you people also ridicule Arabs for all the lands they've conquered and how "murderous" they are. I suppose they conquered that part of the world through slow, erratic, bombing attacks
N1k1mon 1 month ago
@jordanispalestine Hold on there a minute, sophist.
Everything you've just said about Hamas or PLO can be said about Irgun et al, but much worse.
And the Irgun, Haganah AND Stern Gang never waged open war against the British Army in traditional battle. You're deluding yourself, which always must be done with these issues. In your mind I suppose it's simply "strategic" when it's Irgun blowing up children, women and men at a Hospital or Arab Marketplace where 1 or 2 British happen to be (since
N1k1mon 1 month ago
lissen the finald words of this old man. He says at hi was a liberty fighter !!! I think that the palestinians says the same what hteye belive is theye liberty fight !!!
vaaja2010 1 month ago
You don´t hear this in the history lessons... I wonder why ? :-)
vaaja2010 1 month ago
Fuck the British.
mengle2004 5 months ago 2
LONG LIVE PALESTINE FOR EVER !!!!!!
ClubAfricainTunis 6 months ago
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@alejokattana Yep..ye are of your father the devil.
1Atomtan 6 months ago
@alejokattana Yep...even though God gave them a divorce and put them away in Jeremiah. The whole God's chosen thing is false anyway. A separate religion. Not Christianity. Christianity is Justified by faith through the death burial and resurrection of the lamb of God Jesus who is the Christ. Biblically..there are no chosen people. Only saved and unsaved. You don't have to be a Christian to understand what is written clearly.
1Atomtan 6 months ago
@alejokattana And Christians are so easily manipulated. Christianity as it was originally has fallen off and false Judeo Christianity has taken root in places like America.
1Atomtan 6 months ago
why the Israelis accuse the Palestinians of terrorism. After all, they just want to state for themselves like the Israelites at the time... :D
vaaja2010 7 months ago
"Fought for my country given to me by God." Heard that one before haven't we. Wicked religious fanatic and murderer. I guess we could all claim God gave us something and then take it. The guy and his organization are nothing but murderers.
1Atomtan 8 months ago
this gives hope to any group trying to climb the highest mt's.! a small weak group can over take a large group, if the focous is never lost. then once the hieght is reached, never look back on your wake to count the dead. the most violent ones will always win in the end. Irgun showed the world- it was o.k. to bomb a hotel to gain results! QUIDPROQUO...
theguyisinthailand 9 months ago
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theguyisinthailand 9 months ago
Not all terrorists are evil. Many are legitimate militia groups that protect their countrymen and only target military establishments and soldiers.
The Irgun was a terrorist organization, and a good one at that.
The PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas are EVIL terrorists who intentionally target civilians because they are too pathetic to fight the IDF. When the IDF confronts them they call out "uncle, mercy, ceasefire".
The Irgun was exemplary.
PLO, Hezbollah, and Hamas are vomitous and repugnant.
JordanIsPalestine 10 months ago
@JordanIsPalestine
Sure, what the Irgun fought for was good, but their methods were brutal. They killed not only arabs and brittish, but jews as well. They where otu to destroy as much as possible in order to gain their free state. The Haganah fought for the same, but were more peaceful, and lisened to the words of zionist leaders such as Chaim Weitzmann.. They we're responsible for the King Daviv Hotel bombing, which killed many civilia. Hamas is not better, but Irguns aren't all heroes.
kbh56789 8 months ago
I can't believe that Zionist idiot actually said "unfortunately" - it was a deliberate act. Now they complain about rockets from Hamas? Pah - historically, they deserve everything they get.
blueray1969 1 year ago
Of course the Zionists were terrorists. It just depends on point of view--if you are a Zionist, you will call them "freedom fighters". If you were one of their innocent victims, a person whose family had lived in Palestine for generations, you will naturally call them terrorists. As a Jew of conscience, I, too, call them terrorists!
drivenbitch 1 year ago
@drivenbitch
Irgun and zionist are two things. Many zionist were against the Irgun
kbh56789 8 months ago
Of course Hamas and Hezbollah are freedom fighters,even though they openely speak about killing Jews world wide and not only defeating Israel...
But Irgun are freaking terrorists..even though their actions were of defence of jewish villages and revenge on arab terrorist actions against Jews in villages and cities
HebrewFatherland 1 year ago
Jewish underground organizations were formed to combat the continuing massacres of innocent, peaceful, unarmed Jews that occurred in Hebron, Jerusalem, Saffra, Jaffa, & other villages & settlements which STARTED the violence. The reason that they were "underground" is that the British made it unlawful for Jews to own weapons. The British also raided the headquarters where top secret documents of these groups were kept, stole them & brought them to the King David Hotel which is why it was hit.
JerrySPsy 1 year ago
And Israelis still say that Hamas are "the" terrorists and they are always very peaceful. Shame on Israel. Whatever reasons there were to seek refuge from the Nazis, that never can justify the deaths of innocent lifes and the continued state of affairs and the humiliation of the native population of Palestine. The irony is that following this, some Hamas chief might one day also win the Nobel Peace Prize, since Menachem Begin won it and he was a terrorist.
nmgscp 1 year ago
whos doing history homework?
NotANerdJustAGeek 1 year ago 2
Yes. It's OKAY for Jews to kill civilians. The Stern Gang during WWII was, as late as 1942 trying to be an elite unit of Hitler's Wehrmacht. That was Begin's original group, before the Irgun fame. Yeh. It's always the government directed opinions today that guide public "opinion". This interview could be for a HAMAS fighter, just as easily.
distressed7 1 year ago
It is nonsense that many eople were drowned by the British. How is it that a boat which is capable of getting from mainland Europe to the coast of Palesine suddenly becomes unseaworthy because it is denied entry to a port?
This is crass propaganda. The British were merely trying to stop a bloody uprising of Palestinians due to a massive influx of European jews. Without British Lord Balfour's declaration which acknowledged the desirability of a jewish homeland, there would be no israel at all.
willwak 1 year ago