Saint Paul of Tarsus

[thone2008]

Pliny the Younger was Saint Paul

[bigmac19751234]

Paul who ? what was his last name ?

[tttttt260]

@bigmac19751234 back then they didn't have last names they would be know from where they where born his name is the same as the title

[TheSmithDorian]

The Paul of the Bible didn't exist. He is an amalgum of two real individuals - neither of which was anything like the Biblical Paul. That's why there are no contemperaneous records of his life 'as a pharisee' his' presecution' of Christians in Jerusalem or his imprisonment and execution that supposedly happened in in Rome

Paul's story is so full of holes it's hard to understand how anybody - even the most ardent Christian - can belive in it.

[VictoryInJesus454]

@TheSmithDorian --Who were the two people who "made up" Paul and what were they like and what did they teach?

[Franknarfable]

@VictoryInJesus454 - One of the people who makes up Paul is Josephus - without question - and the other is probably Apollonius of Tyana.

[obimac89]

@TheSmithDorian you sound like you know what you are talking about... but in reality it seems you are doing what most people do.. talk about things you've only read partially and believe the opinions of others before engaging the text yourself.

[koledy123]

O glorious St. Paul, after persecuting the Church you became by God's grace its most zealous Apostle. To carry the knowledge of Jesus, our Divine Savior, to the uttermost parts of the earth

You joyfully endured prison, scourgings, stonings, and shipwreck, as well as all manner of persecutions culminating in the shedding of the last drop of your blood for our Lord Jesus Christ

[yiddishlion]

We go on to read in verse 16, (NIV): people distort, as

they do

the other Scriptures, to their own destruction. They twist and

pervert

Pauls writings. If they do not repent by acknowledging the error in

their

thinking and reasoning, Peter says it will cost them their eternal

lives. It

will cost them salvation.

[odephraimchai]

Why did Paul not have one of the real Apostles cast out his demon?

Matthew 4:24 And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

II Cor. 12:7-9 Paul's messenger of Satan in flesh was a demon.

[pamuk7]

[ Young Litterals ]-[ Cor1:7:40 ]-[ and she is happier if she may so remain -- according to my judgment; and I think I also have the Spirit of God. ]

PAUL SAID HE (THINKS) he has the holy spirit..looooooool

in other words his not sure..lol

can u imagine if the prophet Muhammed said'' I THINK i might have seen the angel gabriel..loooooooooooool

PAUL EXPOSED..looool

U Christians believe a man who is not even sure he recieved guidance..looooooooool

BAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[PotheadzWeebly]

Paul hijacked christainity!

[Columbo794]

@PotheadzWeebly No my friend, the Roman Catholics are responsible for that.

[TheSpiritualShow]

@Columbo794 You that accuse the saints Catholics and the House of God, are not worthy of the Kingdom

[GENTALMANX]

wasnt jesus followers around when paul seen jesus right why would jesus come to him and not to them.paul never meet jesus but jesus came to him and not those who heard the teachings first hand why? paul says he became many things to many people to win them to christ is that why christianity is so close to the mithra religon who aslo have the same story about jesus?

[HymnofDoom]

If during the holocaust, Hitler was on the road to Berlin, and he had a vision which only he saw and only he heard, and became an apostle to the Jews and wrote books for them to follow, will they follow him? I doubt they would. Why are you following Paul of Tarsus' writings?

[marineninga]

He didn't just write and he didn't just have a vision of Christ. Paul had a mission and traversed to many places to spread Christianity outside the holy lands! Remember he was a roman citizen so he is educated and politically he has more power over non romans! He spread Christianity as well as maintained their faith by writing letters back to them and quoting Jesus!

[AtomicMonster454]

Paul was only writting the words of Christ, not his own opinion.

[trinidadparaminman]

@HymnofDoom very good point!

[odephraimchai]

What does Jesus Christ lack that Paul becamme the sacrificial lamb for you?

Colossians 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:

[Tawalisi]

The bible should not be read literally. Everyone should read the bible and draw wisdom from it. Only someone who has the intelligence of a toddler would read the bible literally. It's like believing in Santa Claus who lives in the North Pole and gives you toys if you are nice.

[trinidadparaminman]

paul was a false prophet and before he received a message from Jesus (or so he claimed) he was a bounty hunter who went after christians!

[Darkfoster22]

Better watch what you say about the Lord workers. man the world is getting darker each day, I for one know the teachings of Paul is right, Do i have to reteach the lost world about the love Paul felt? I for one was saved the same way, I just was not told what to do or was not blind...and the love Paul talked about only came from God from within. Stop calling your bother lairs, Judge NOT do be Judged by the most high.

[moa373]

No my friend, Paul was convicted and truly changed his ways.

[mujahideentaliban]

paul a pagan from Tarsus

he was not a disciple of Jesus

never meet Jesus

his name doesn't exist in Old Testament

paulus = the biggest liar in history

[moa373]

Neither do

John

Luke

Mark

Matthew

Jesus

hold written evidence of their names in the Old Testament.

And he criticized pagans. He was not one.

[1bugriz1]

@mujahideentaliban read the bible first

[Farhan1326]

Follow Paul or Follow Isa (Jesus)

[moa373]

Isa is not Jesus.

[mrraven888]

Who are those who preach in His name? Who are those that cast out demons in His name? Who are the ones who brag of doing many works in His name?

[flashoftruth]

@mrraven

christians, no...catholics, no...muslims, no...hindus,

no...ALL OF THE ABOVE!

and that's my final answer.

[1bugriz1]

@mrraven888 Christians worship Christ not Paul..

[mrraven888]

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Matthew 7:21-23 (King James Version)

[mrraven888]

Saul is a false prophet, he has abolished wholesale what Jesus lived and dies for, and you are going to hell for following him.

[1bugriz1]

@mrraven888 We follow Christ not Paul.. are you a gentile?

[GENTALMANX]

@1bugriz1 why would jesus talk to paul and not his followers? the ones who heard his teachings first hand then paul says i became many things to many people is that why christianity is so close to the mithra religon?

[1bugriz1]

@GENTALMANX According to the book of Acts Jesus appeared to Paul when entering Damascus,so ur asking why Jesus to Paul and not his followers. Jesus only know reason why he chose Paul but based on what I see..Since Paul is one of the active persecutor of early followers of Christ not only active but dedicated that's why he persecute even those followers outside Jerusalem.

[1bugriz1]

@GENTALMANX Jesus appeared to Paul and chose him as one of his followers despite of his persecution. We all know that there is no impossible in God and instantly Paul became a follower. It is one way of showing how to love enemies despite of killing Jesus chose Paul.

[1bugriz1]

@GENTALMANX For me Paul has the courage, and to tell you he knows well the Torah he's a Jew yet Roman citizen. To show further love the Good news was brought in Rome but at that time Romans were the ruler. Jews gave Jesus in the hand of Romans but through Paul the Good news was sent to Rome eventhough they are the one who crucify Jesus.You know God has always plan in everything.

[1bugriz1]

@GENTALMANX In my own opinion why Paul said he became many things to many people is because he is willing to borrow a bit of other people culture inoder to win their hearts to Christ and let them know that he's our saviour. Paul doesnt want to teach new things but he's purpose in doing this is to tell us who Christ is, so that we believe in him,

[mrraven888]

For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

[mrraven888]

Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one ofthe least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called last in the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven.

[mrraven888]

And again, in the same letter;

So do not let what is good to you be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God does not mean food and drink but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit

(Romans 14:16)

These types of statements by Saul; destroys the Law in the Torah, The Old Testaments Commandments. In the first book of the New Testament, we are told that Jesus preached a message which was exactly the opposite of St. Paul:

[pjz1967]

well, mrraven888, thats what its all about. Jesus died so we are no longer under the law of the old testiment. Thats one thing Paul was trying to get across.

[mrraven888]

All the books attributed too Saul of Tarsus basically cancel out the Torah (The Law). He makes it a matter of how you understand something that makes it permissible or forbidden As example in Sauls letters to the Romans: I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean )Romans 14:14).

[sjrodovalho]

I Love Paul's wittings it is the perfect favour of God what he wrote so true that no one is able to write the same way

He is a true apostle

choosed by Jesus him self.

[cjanerunrun]

CorrectInfo, you are on the wrong path. God help your soul, or it will end up in hell.

[sumawiganda]

cjanerunrun : correctinfo is in the right path, worship God alone, not partner, no association.

Read Quran

[cjanerunrun]

I am praying for your soul.

[sumawiganda]

ameen

[CorrectInfo]

Wise people finally come to the path of all prophets - Islam.

Also wise people understand that Roman Paganism (Existing Christianity) founded by a tent maker Roman Jew Saul later called Paul, & canonized by Roman Pagan's Emperor Constantine & council of Nicaea 325 AD has in no way any relation with the teaching of Jesus who like Abraham Moses Muhammad just preached Islam.

Paul has created biggest dogmatic fiction of mankind history & his believers are the most deluded people on this planet

[samtheextreme]

don't want a religios debate or anythjing but didn't paul only preach what jesus had preached?

[sumawiganda]

samthee ... answer: No...

[moa373]

There is no contradiction between the message and doctrine of Jesus and Paul. You are correct.

[moa373]

Are you kidding me? The Quran is a cheap rip off of the Tanakh, an entire cannon completed oh 1000 years before Muhammad was even born!

[nwowarrior]

Saul's writings made it in the Bible only because of his "Apostleship". He is a self proclaimed apostle. Matthias took the place of Judas. There are ONLY 12 Apostles. Revelation describes New Jerusalem with 12 foundation and the names of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb on them. That makes Saul AKA Paul 13th apostle. Saul's/Paul's writings are not the word of God as many Christians believe.The "carnal" Christianity today is in result of his teachings.....So,YES his teachings create confusion!!!

[GodIsOne777]

I suppose you do not know what an apostle is; a man cannot make someone an apostle, an apostle is someone told to preach the Good News by Jesus himself ONLY there is no EXCEPTION. Matthias was not an apostle in any sense he was elected by casting lots not by Jesus. Here we see a failure on the part of the early saints to trust that God will elect an apostle and that is why Matthias is not mentioned anywhere. Not in any historical records not in the New Testament. Paul must be the 12th apostle

[nwowarrior]

"You will recognize them by their fruits", says Yehshua Ha' Mashiyach. Saul of Tarsus AKA "Paul" has managed to confuse almost everyone with the "saved by grace through faith alone" - a false doctrine. Yehshua was clear with His teaching what it takes to enter life.

Saul is a lier and I can prove that to you from the Bible,if you would like :)

[GodIsOne777]

Before the Law, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Noah, Enoch and Melchizedek to name a few were saved. So its not the law that saves. Jesus often spoke in heavy code, which can only be deciphered by the Holy Spirit; the Old Testament agrees with Paul that salvation comes through faith by grace. The punishment for one single sin is death anything but death must be grace if good works could compensate then Adam could have compensated so could have Lucifer knowing very well their fate. Maybe watch my videos.

[jgpeppers]

Cool, too bad 2008 was a strange and weird year.

[LaNsDaLeHoMiEz]

I didn't know that we were in the year of Saint Paul

[evergreencreativeart]

Wow, I didn't know that we were in the year of celebration for St. Paul.