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  • Gostei muito, pena que  a arte hoje é desvalorizada!!

  • Great technic

  • I agree completely, the Fusen Ryu-BJJ connection is mostly a myth because the Gracies did not want to site Judo as the parent art. Sadly, it has been often repeated.

    Watch Judo newaza of the period and compare it to BJJ.

    Then watch Fusen Ryu & compare it to BJJ.

    The answer is clear.

  • ouch! those are some nasty hardwood floor ukemi. tough dudes!

  • Great throwing techniques. I have to forget the story of Fusen Ryu as ground fighting style of JJ, or not?

  • I like this one.

  • uchimata ftw

  • This is from Fujitani sensei's lineage.

    That's half the school right there. Only about 5 more kata left undemonstrated, all from seiza (idori).

    No ground fighting- not as we know it today (like Finny said). That was a strategy used to "defeat" the Kodokan boys. Sit down, choke and lock. That looks like a kendojo/multi-purpose room. That is opposed to the Judojo, which is usually laid with Tatami and spring floors.

  • This is pretty neat, but I thought it would be 100% ground fighting.

  • Fusen Ryu AFAIK is not specifically a "ground oriented" style. I believe that is a myth that arose due to the Fusen Ryu beating Kano's Kodokan Judo folks using ground techniques, which led to the creation of Kosen Judo, which is supposedly the origin of BJJ.

  • Neat video. Got anymore from Fusen-ryu?

  • "which led to the creation of Kosen Judo, which is supposedly the origin of BJJ."

    This last portion is totally fallacious. Kosen Judo was not created for this reason. BJJ does not come from Kosen Judo.

  • Not completly, beause maeda was a high ranked kosen judoka and also high ranked fusen ryuka! He was send from kano to brazil (america didn´t want him) where he fought matchfights and taught the gracies. read "mastering jiu jitsu" from renzo gracie i got the info from there! greetings!

  • kosen rules didnt exist when maeda went to brazil,all kodokan judo was heavily into groundwork at the time so much so that kano deliberately limited it which created the breakaway kosen universities

  • Billysue is correct. Maeda left Japan before kosen judo even existed. He also did not train fusen ryu. Neither of those things are stated in "Mastering Jujutsu" by Renzo Gracie as I own the book.

  • @holdyerground1 in all fairness,anything a gracie comes out with is not to be believed,theyre notorious liars where thyre art is concerned.

  • @holdyerground1 kosen judo isnt a style and was never created by anyone,its a ruleset that the kodokan abandoned to make for more spectacular contests.Everything in kosen was once in all of judo.The judo taught to carlos gracie was just regular judo of the time and tactics maeda picked up in matchfights

  • @billysue2 Yeah, did I say any of that?

  • @billysue2 OMG. Another person who get's it!! Maeda sensei taought x% of his judo to Carlos. Carlos lived to what? 90 something? Does anyone know how long he really studied with Maeda and can anyone believe he really passed up his yondan (back in the day) teacher? Doubtful.

    Kosen = Koko Gakko Semon Gakko ... high school and technical colleges where old rules tournaments still flourished ... but is is judo.

    the founder of Sambo died (firing squad) rather than say "not Japanese"

  • @Finny1996 I think Maeda taught little Carlos Gracie self-defense techniques and, told him (and the other students in the class) that it was jujitsu, since the western world used that term to describe all Japanese martial arts. They wouldn't have understood the difference between Judo and, Jujitsu and, if he told them it was Judo and, not jujitsu, they would have been disappointed.

    Kosen is not a style, it's the rules used in the Japanese technical schools, that favor ground tactics, or Ne Waza.

  • @Finny1996 The origin of BJJ is just Kodokan Judo, Mitsuyo Maeda never trained Kosen.

  • @Finny1996 It is a misunderstanding reproduced by John Danaher in his Mastering Jujitsu.

  • the second to last technique is my favorite =)

  • But... Fusen ryu is a ground oriented school, or i am wrong?

  • yes it is, but these throwing techniques are how you get your opponent on the ground in the first place ^.^

  • only can see black :O it's not working.

  • thats ace. on a hard floor too-ouch

  • awesome, I saw this video awhile back on bushinjuku & liked it. here it is again.

  • Oww. Floor is hard. :)

  • wood flooring is traditional in japanese martial arts studios, and it's not as hard as you might think (plus they know how to fall correctly)

  • it's a floor similar to the one used on basketball

    it's made to don't hurt (much)

  • um no...its the technique of ukemi that lessens the impact of falling...not the floor

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