i think its very rich some are extremely righteous in these comments, let me give you my situation some err 26 yrs ago, my unbelieving unfaithful husband of three years ( i know right) decided he wasnt happy so got up and left, divorced me in order to remarry, that marriage lasted a whole year, left her and remarried again, three divorces under his belt, thankfully we never had kids, however,, sometimes you end up divorced not by your own doing but simply because the other wants out..
I think, if you divorce, & at judgment you come up with your excuse “well God the Gays made me believe it was ok to divorce so”, I can’t talk for God, but I’m sure he will show you that Gays fought tooth & nails to get married, while you fought tooth & nails to DIVORCE, but anyhow the original reason Adam was given a “suitable helper”, is because God saw he felt lonely, among happy creatures. So if someone has a hard life & needs a helper to ease it, I‘m sure they‘ll marry for love not sex : )
Have you thought of this divorce because of marital unfaithfulness does not make sense?, because, that’s ADULTERY, & when that happened, there was not divorce, rather the unfaithful spouse was executed. So that marital unfaithfulness phrase do not belong in that verse, it is a mistranslation, what Jesus was referring to was Deuteronomy24:1, in which Moses permitted what we now call annulment, because the wife was found not to be a prior virgin, which is what man wanted, an un-fornicated virgin.
BiGMANJOE32's god is a big meany. What if a woman is regularity beaten and raped. Should she separate, never divorce and be single for life? If she remarries she burns for eternity? He should worship me instead. I am much nicer.
Agreed, whole heartedly. But I tell you bro that our views are being challenged with the argument that Matthew was written to the Jews while the others were written to the Gentiles which is why the "except for fornication" part is not in the other Gospels. They continue saying in Matthew, it was talking about the espousal period which was under the Jewish laws of marriage, the Gentiles didn't practice this period though. They say there's NO reason for divorce but 1 Corinthians disproves them.
@Krazie316 if you unbelieving unfaithful husbands wants out to go on and marry two more tiimes there is nothing the believing wife can do, begging doesnt work, ive been there
sorry but marriage is for life there is no divorce (but you can separate)go ahead get and remarry you will be an adulterer in Gods and will burn in hell. If you have kids in remarriage while your husband or wife is alive then they will be bastards out of wed lock in the eyes of God!
Have a nice day! Wow these days the so called christian church is nothing more than spouse swapping party damn LOL
@christoferL there is no forgiveness with out repentance and forsaking of sin. You cheat on your wife or husband the price is separation not divorce! Fake christians today are telling other poeple its ok to divorce
its ok to remarry when the bile says otherwise! If that is the case then John the baptist died for nothing Jesus was wrong and the pharisse's were right and paul wrote romans chapter 7 for nothing!
didn't you say a woman could leave a husband,but not marry ..only alowed to reconcile with husband.So a woman if being beat..can leave.(just don't want a woman beat to death,you are allowed to leave..not remarry)
"Bound" should be "enslaved" (1Co 7v15). A wife is bound by law to her husband for as long as he lives (1Co 7v39).
"Marital unfaithfulness" should be "premarital unfaithfulness" (Mat 5v32, 19v9). Think about it. The NIV says that all I have to do to steal your wife is to commit adultery with her.
God no longer honors divorce, but there's a rare case where a woman might become a man's plural wife. It's at the end of my video, "Covet Not the Neighbor's Wife" (v=EUWT2X3pJ0E).
Divorce is not an option. Separation is ok. If you get a divorce legally, know that too is fine, but you can't remarry. God sees divorce simply as separation. Mark 10:10-12. 1cor 7:10-11. If man is always slapping his wife... You are right God doesn't want anyone to suffer. That's why we have 911.
I totally agree with you Christopher, divorce is a terrible thing in the world. I believe that if a man is always slapping his wife and gets mad too easily at his wife, she should have the right to divorce. God doesn't want anyone to suffer. God gives but he also takes away. God will bless his children abundantly but they must let God first. God is not gonna sit back and watch one of his daughters getting slapped over and over and be mistreated by her husband. If she want to divorce, she should
divorce is a sin and reamrriage is adultery john the baptist even told king herod is not lawful for yo to have your BROTHERS WIFE! his brother was still alive and he took herodias to be his wife
MArriage is for life it is a reflection of Christs love for his church
Yeah I almost feel like Im sinning at considering getting married again since they have such a high divorce rate. People are too self-centered now and only marry because of what they can get out of a relationship.
Its not about how they can make their spouse happy, its about how their spouse can make them happy. Its a sad day indeed
Vows aren't even important to people. For better or worse is only applicable when it's better. Till death do us part means until a person is sick to death of you. lol.
What is REALLY sad is when you look at the numbers as to who is filing mostly for divorce, WOMEN. And not for serious reasons such as adultery or abuse but because they are just no longer happy. It's changes within women that have increased the divorce rates over the last 20 years. Sorry ladies don't hate on the messenger.
Divorce will never happen as far as I'm concerned. Why? Because I WON'T get married just because I have a attraction for someone, BUT BECAUSE GOD IS THE REASON FOR MY MARRIAGE! I'll have to go against my own Father in heaven if I want divorce and that surely will NOT happen!
However, if it's my wife who wants divorce, I WON'T leave her! I'll keep loving her just as Christ kept loving His own people. Of course, it'll require a lot of prayer, but again, this is not about me, IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD!
Most people get divorce because they say they fall out of love with the other. But many many times there is someone seeing lust. one of them are ceating . No one keeping the Ten commandments can creat, Do christians keep the ten commandments? No they have preachers teaching they are save by grace and no matter what they do they have grace and if they do as God said they are trying to get there by works..
Everytime someone has sex they become one with that person and everyone that person has been with they become so let say you have only been with one person in your life but the person you been with has been with two you and one before you but the one she been with before you has been with 100 and all the 100 been with before her and at the end of it all you that have been with one really have been with thousands and never will know it. So how many demons could have come into you ?
That my friend is the key word repent or turn away from sin..Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Saved from what? iniquity? Their sins? I think that is why you have a hard time with the church you go to. They believe their grace don't have to endure anything. Once they get it they are good to go and that is why so much pagan worship is going on in the churchers today. John 8:11 YAHshua said go and sin NO more.
....... But I also do believe that many people that devorcs are mainly more honest then people that stay together just to follow some rouls. Just because a cupple is still married does not mean that they are happy with their marrage.
ferechi - I don't disagree with you on any of your points. But for a Christian marriage - if Christ comes first - I don't believe divorce is an option... Its about working with your spouse to find happiness - its a certain level of commitment to Christ that goes above and beyond our own selfish needs,,, finding satisfaction serving your spouse in honor to the Lord so that you do not break covenant we make to our spouses on our wedding day...
I like your videos because you are polite and friendly.
Now I personally am not and do not want to get married.
To me the thing calle love is just an illision.
No one really loves another person. They love what they think to see in the other person.
But lets get back to the topic.
I think that people are verry impatient nowadays and can not wait for things to settle out. Furthermore there are a lot of seductions arround us. .........
I think - but I am not sure - that he is looking at a BARNA survey from 2000 - that estimated divorce rates among Christian denominations - but I am not sure...
Those are the Barna Report statistics... which are a weak reference. They don't take into effect cohabitation breakups(which are almost 90% if I remember reading right). And since most Christians don't cohabit, atheists or agnostics do--it would raise the percentage. Many people also claim they're Christian--but we can't really know.
@Chris--Good video, check out "Love and Respect" by Emmerson Eggerich--good seminars. Also Thrice's new song "the weight" is here on youtube! awesome song!
i think its very rich some are extremely righteous in these comments, let me give you my situation some err 26 yrs ago, my unbelieving unfaithful husband of three years ( i know right) decided he wasnt happy so got up and left, divorced me in order to remarry, that marriage lasted a whole year, left her and remarried again, three divorces under his belt, thankfully we never had kids, however,, sometimes you end up divorced not by your own doing but simply because the other wants out..
Laras420 1 month ago
I think, if you divorce, & at judgment you come up with your excuse “well God the Gays made me believe it was ok to divorce so”, I can’t talk for God, but I’m sure he will show you that Gays fought tooth & nails to get married, while you fought tooth & nails to DIVORCE, but anyhow the original reason Adam was given a “suitable helper”, is because God saw he felt lonely, among happy creatures. So if someone has a hard life & needs a helper to ease it, I‘m sure they‘ll marry for love not sex : )
bbbckcal 1 month ago
Have you thought of this divorce because of marital unfaithfulness does not make sense?, because, that’s ADULTERY, & when that happened, there was not divorce, rather the unfaithful spouse was executed. So that marital unfaithfulness phrase do not belong in that verse, it is a mistranslation, what Jesus was referring to was Deuteronomy24:1, in which Moses permitted what we now call annulment, because the wife was found not to be a prior virgin, which is what man wanted, an un-fornicated virgin.
bbbckcal 1 month ago
BiGMANJOE32's god is a big meany. What if a woman is regularity beaten and raped. Should she separate, never divorce and be single for life? If she remarries she burns for eternity? He should worship me instead. I am much nicer.
sweetmonkeylove1 1 month ago
Agreed, whole heartedly. But I tell you bro that our views are being challenged with the argument that Matthew was written to the Jews while the others were written to the Gentiles which is why the "except for fornication" part is not in the other Gospels. They continue saying in Matthew, it was talking about the espousal period which was under the Jewish laws of marriage, the Gentiles didn't practice this period though. They say there's NO reason for divorce but 1 Corinthians disproves them.
Krazie316 1 month ago
@Krazie316 if you unbelieving unfaithful husbands wants out to go on and marry two more tiimes there is nothing the believing wife can do, begging doesnt work, ive been there
Laras420 1 month ago
@Laras420 your comment FAILS on so many levels its not funny.
First of all I AM a believer, not an unbeliever. Second my views about divorce are spot in parallel with Chris'.
Lastly, WOMEN initiate 80 percent of divorces, not men.
So replace husband with wife and vice versa in your comment THEN it becomes accurate.
Krazie316 1 month ago
@Krazie316, oh right so if a unbelieving unfaithful husband leaves his christian wife and divorces HER, she is still to blame,
Laras420 1 month ago
@Krazie316 and it my comment FAILS,. how so, because this is exactly what happened to me
Laras420 1 month ago
sorry but marriage is for life there is no divorce (but you can separate)go ahead get and remarry you will be an adulterer in Gods and will burn in hell. If you have kids in remarriage while your husband or wife is alive then they will be bastards out of wed lock in the eyes of God!
Have a nice day! Wow these days the so called christian church is nothing more than spouse swapping party damn LOL
BiGMANJOE32 1 year ago
@BiGMANJOE32 wow Joe - so there is no forgiveness of sin in God's eyes?
christoferL 1 year ago
@christoferL there is no forgiveness with out repentance and forsaking of sin. You cheat on your wife or husband the price is separation not divorce! Fake christians today are telling other poeple its ok to divorce
its ok to remarry when the bile says otherwise! If that is the case then John the baptist died for nothing Jesus was wrong and the pharisse's were right and paul wrote romans chapter 7 for nothing!
BiGMANJOE32 1 year ago
@BiGMANJOE32 Cool - I just wanted to hear some clarification there...
christoferL 1 year ago
didn't you say a woman could leave a husband,but not marry ..only alowed to reconcile with husband.So a woman if being beat..can leave.(just don't want a woman beat to death,you are allowed to leave..not remarry)
Ahveddo 1 year ago
@Ahveddo I believe thats the truth... yes
christoferL 1 year ago
You are so right in the ic so many are casual divorcing and remarrying as often as Liz Taylor!
MsJeremiah32 1 year ago
The NIV is wrong.
"Bound" should be "enslaved" (1Co 7v15). A wife is bound by law to her husband for as long as he lives (1Co 7v39).
"Marital unfaithfulness" should be "premarital unfaithfulness" (Mat 5v32, 19v9). Think about it. The NIV says that all I have to do to steal your wife is to commit adultery with her.
God no longer honors divorce, but there's a rare case where a woman might become a man's plural wife. It's at the end of my video, "Covet Not the Neighbor's Wife" (v=EUWT2X3pJ0E).
DanielJohn2300 1 year ago
Divorce is not an option. Separation is ok. If you get a divorce legally, know that too is fine, but you can't remarry. God sees divorce simply as separation. Mark 10:10-12. 1cor 7:10-11. If man is always slapping his wife... You are right God doesn't want anyone to suffer. That's why we have 911.
tmann1401 2 years ago
I totally agree with you Christopher, divorce is a terrible thing in the world. I believe that if a man is always slapping his wife and gets mad too easily at his wife, she should have the right to divorce. God doesn't want anyone to suffer. God gives but he also takes away. God will bless his children abundantly but they must let God first. God is not gonna sit back and watch one of his daughters getting slapped over and over and be mistreated by her husband. If she want to divorce, she should
cardonaedgardo 2 years ago
divorce is a sin and reamrriage is adultery john the baptist even told king herod is not lawful for yo to have your BROTHERS WIFE! his brother was still alive and he took herodias to be his wife
MArriage is for life it is a reflection of Christs love for his church
BiGMANJOE32 2 years ago
Yeah I almost feel like Im sinning at considering getting married again since they have such a high divorce rate. People are too self-centered now and only marry because of what they can get out of a relationship.
Its not about how they can make their spouse happy, its about how their spouse can make them happy. Its a sad day indeed
TheJCFan 2 years ago
So true, thedean.
Its also a problem with our divorce courts. They enable divorce over things that are petty. Its not sacred anymore.
There is no 'soulmate'. Marriage is what you make it.
TheJCFan 2 years ago
Vows aren't even important to people. For better or worse is only applicable when it's better. Till death do us part means until a person is sick to death of you. lol.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
What is REALLY sad is when you look at the numbers as to who is filing mostly for divorce, WOMEN. And not for serious reasons such as adultery or abuse but because they are just no longer happy. It's changes within women that have increased the divorce rates over the last 20 years. Sorry ladies don't hate on the messenger.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
The new creation part really knocked this one out of the park Chris.
TheEdge012 2 years ago
Edge - To me, thats how serious this issue is. Its really sad how de-valued marriage has become.
christoferL 2 years ago
@christoferL are you not divorced and remarried?
huckster271 1 year ago
nice vid!
Irock0888 2 years ago
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ChristianNewsWatch 2 years ago
Divorce will never happen as far as I'm concerned. Why? Because I WON'T get married just because I have a attraction for someone, BUT BECAUSE GOD IS THE REASON FOR MY MARRIAGE! I'll have to go against my own Father in heaven if I want divorce and that surely will NOT happen!
However, if it's my wife who wants divorce, I WON'T leave her! I'll keep loving her just as Christ kept loving His own people. Of course, it'll require a lot of prayer, but again, this is not about me, IT'S ALL ABOUT GOD!
InSlaveryToChrist 2 years ago
HalleluYAHWEH Our Father.
Most people get divorce because they say they fall out of love with the other. But many many times there is someone seeing lust. one of them are ceating . No one keeping the Ten commandments can creat, Do christians keep the ten commandments? No they have preachers teaching they are save by grace and no matter what they do they have grace and if they do as God said they are trying to get there by works..
Brother Phil.
Wisdomcalls1 2 years ago
Everytime someone has sex they become one with that person and everyone that person has been with they become so let say you have only been with one person in your life but the person you been with has been with two you and one before you but the one she been with before you has been with 100 and all the 100 been with before her and at the end of it all you that have been with one really have been with thousands and never will know it. So how many demons could have come into you ?
Wisdomcalls1 2 years ago
When you think of it like that we can only thank God for the saving Grace He does offer - but we must truly repent to in it -
christoferL 2 years ago
HalleluYAHWEH Our Father,
That my friend is the key word repent or turn away from sin..Mat 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Saved from what? iniquity? Their sins? I think that is why you have a hard time with the church you go to. They believe their grace don't have to endure anything. Once they get it they are good to go and that is why so much pagan worship is going on in the churchers today. John 8:11 YAHshua said go and sin NO more.
Brother Phil.
Wisdomcalls1 2 years ago
....... But I also do believe that many people that devorcs are mainly more honest then people that stay together just to follow some rouls. Just because a cupple is still married does not mean that they are happy with their marrage.
These are just my thoughts.
Bye from Germany
ferechi (nonbeliever in religion)
ferechi 2 years ago
ferechi - I don't disagree with you on any of your points. But for a Christian marriage - if Christ comes first - I don't believe divorce is an option... Its about working with your spouse to find happiness - its a certain level of commitment to Christ that goes above and beyond our own selfish needs,,, finding satisfaction serving your spouse in honor to the Lord so that you do not break covenant we make to our spouses on our wedding day...
christoferL 2 years ago
Hello christoferL
I like your videos because you are polite and friendly.
Now I personally am not and do not want to get married.
To me the thing calle love is just an illision.
No one really loves another person. They love what they think to see in the other person.
But lets get back to the topic.
I think that people are verry impatient nowadays and can not wait for things to settle out. Furthermore there are a lot of seductions arround us. .........
ferechi 2 years ago
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solarisgalrocks 2 years ago
Care to prove that statement please?
FraggedMind 2 years ago
anyone can be always right when you believe everything they say
emuholic 2 years ago
Christian Divorce Rate: 25%
Atheist Divorce Rate: 21%
FraggedMind 2 years ago
and you got those stats from where?
MrBigDaddyT 2 years ago
I think - but I am not sure - that he is looking at a BARNA survey from 2000 - that estimated divorce rates among Christian denominations - but I am not sure...
christoferL 2 years ago
You forgot atheists are still a minority. 21% is still quite larger.
emmthreejonny 2 years ago 2
the fact christians do get divorced at all should tell you all something.
emuholic 2 years ago
emu - it says something about the 'Christians' - not Christ.
christoferL 2 years ago
what? i didn't even mention christ :\. why are you so condescending to people all the time? you're not more intelligent than me, you are the reverse.
emuholic 2 years ago
Which means what exactly? There are certainly more believers in God tenfold than atheists. And how many atheists actually GET married?
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
Oh...Argumentum Ad Populum
FraggedMind 2 years ago
ahole ad nauseum.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
dbag ad nauseum.
FraggedMind 2 years ago
ad dorkium.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
Ad penile vacummus
FraggedMind 2 years ago
Sorry to hear that. Were you in a smelting accident?
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
I'm sorry, I'm not fluent in idiocy.
FraggedMind 2 years ago
Wow, so you're even dumber than that.
I'm sorry dude. Had I known you were that challenged I would have not commented at all.
Best of luck to you and my condolences to your Mom.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
Wow. You really are an idiot lead by blind people.
I feel sorry for you.
FraggedMind 2 years ago
This by a guy who goes on cam wearing a frogman outfit.
Please.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
You can't even get on cam.
FraggedMind 2 years ago
I have been on cam, far more times than you and when i did I didn't hide my face like a woos.
thedeanofgames 2 years ago
Those are the Barna Report statistics... which are a weak reference. They don't take into effect cohabitation breakups(which are almost 90% if I remember reading right). And since most Christians don't cohabit, atheists or agnostics do--it would raise the percentage. Many people also claim they're Christian--but we can't really know.
@Chris--Good video, check out "Love and Respect" by Emmerson Eggerich--good seminars. Also Thrice's new song "the weight" is here on youtube! awesome song!
droptozro 2 years ago